WEBVTT - Flex & Froomes Go Head To Head About Whether Aliens Exist 👽 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:04.680 This is Flex and Frooms Flex. 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.320 And Frooms Podcast Edition Daily might I add. 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:09.520 Doesn't get better than this. I just want to add 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.639 a disclaimer right up the top. If you're listening to this, 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:13.560 if you're listening to us for the first time, I 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.439 just want to say, I'm Frooms, I'm Flex and Today's 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.160 episode was a trying time for me. Why is that 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:24.040 because Aliens? I attempted to tell a story about a 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:25.759 woman with the last name Stoner? 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:30.720 Is that giving Away attempted to debunk Aliens and failed 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.400 miserably because it felt like you read that story for 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.959 the first time, like you googled an article, picked anything, 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.239 took a week, screenshot and just went with it. It 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.360 was as a surprise to you as it was to us. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.240 The point of the story is, never try to relate 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:50.000 to your co host speaking Elaine, talk about farts, go home, 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.400 don't ever try and get better. No, we talked about aliens. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.000 Flex and I had a little bit of a sparring 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.680 about whether or not aliens. Have we ever sparred? I 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.640 feel like we spa every day. I'm just a defensive, 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.720 negative person. No, you're not. That's what I wanted you 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:11.119 to say. It was a set up anyway, stay right there. 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:12.600 I really. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.319 Keeps doing this thing when she says stick around, but 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:18.240 like sixteen times per episode. 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.360 It wasn't like it's just started this week. I wasn't 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:23.959 doing it before. 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.720 Yeah, but then there were breaks between it. 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:28.560 We need to have a little list that we put 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.440 on the backscreens. Yeah, we all have our crutches. We 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.360 have heaps of crutches. For a while there, you were saying, 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:36.200 here's the thing. 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.840 Yeah, here's the thing, one thing about me. Yeah, and 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:41.240 then you got to you got to pick it up. 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:42.760 This was on picks it up for you. No, I 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.600 want you to pick it up next time. None of this, 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:49.160 learn it yourself. Let's go flex and frooms. I was 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.920 scrolling on Reddit and there was this post made a 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:55.600 day ago says, what's a modern day scam that's become 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.600 normalized and we don't realize it to scam anymore. I'm 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.240 thank you. Okay, this has got good engagement fifty three 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:06.240 thousand up votes. Let's get into it. First thing off top, 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:07.480 what comes to mind. 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:12.920 Are tipping tipping green? 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:18.080 Missy says, no, you get paid a living wage, just 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:23.200 labor for free. Mine is paying for water. Oh, like, 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.600 why I gotta do that. I get the labor of 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:27.720 like getting the water, putting it in the bottle. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:29.840 We should definitely be paying for that getting. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:34.440 It to the supermarket or the petrol station. But the 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.280 fact that we just don't have bubblers everye hundred meters 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:39.560 it ain't right for him. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.040 No, and my last. 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.400 Place and this place i'm living in now, something about 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:48.320 the pipes means the water is so bad. I'm just 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:49.600 living on bottled water. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.639 Oh, the water tastes bad. The water tastes bad. You're 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:56.400 in it like a cosmopolitan area. The rooms not cheap exactly. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:58.000 I'm like, something's off. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.160 And I thought it was just me being particular or 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.120 a picky, but every time I have people over, I'm like, 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.079 taste this water, like, yeah, no, it's gross. 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:05.760 Maybe it's like there's something in the tank. 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:07.800 Yeah, it could be a ton of things. It's disgusting. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.000 Though. What else does a scam? Oh, a scam is 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:15.880 having to pay for sauce in McDonald's. Why was it 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.600 a scam? Because why should I be paying for sauce? 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.280 Why should be paying for the burgers? 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.480 Oh? Give me some of them all, Okay. 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.320 Not being able to cancel a subscription online. Yeah, this 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:29.959 one hit home. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:35.160 New York Times blacklisted the fact. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.880 That everything is a sneaky small monthly subscription. I thought 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:41.360 about this because when I was trying to buy a house, 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.480 I had to look at my transactions to figure out 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.120 how much money I was spending, what was going in 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.800 was coming out, and I was like, I don't know 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.720 what I said money on, maybe like food, petrol, clothes, 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:56.600 all these tiny transactions, these mobile games that I've downloaded, 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:01.400 it that I've paid for, or that take a subscription Netflix, Hey, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.560 you san all of these things small, small, small, small payments, 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.760 and before you know it, that's like three hundred dollars 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.960 gone for things that I feel like I'm not actively 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:11.560 using enough to justify it. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.680 Adobe realize the other day seventy six dollars a month, 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.800 haven't opened that fine in six months? What am I doing? 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.039 Buying tech devices for premium prices and still having to 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.800 pay subscriptions to make them actually do what they're supposed 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.400 to do? Me and my Kindle. I bought a kindle 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.200 that's like a thing where you can read, like a 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.920 tablet where you read digital books. So I bought that 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.160 for two hundred and something dollars maybe it's meant to 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.760 have Wi Fi. I was like, this is great, Like 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.000 what we do with this? I get the Kindle? You 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:42.200 got to buy all the books? 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:43.080 I said. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.760 Then I got Kindle Unlimited, which is essentially a library. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.480 I pay twelve dollars a month for it, and that 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.080 means I can borrow unlimited books. But is it unlimited 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:55.640 when I'm paying for it? 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.440 So this is what the Kindle was for? 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:58.119 Right? 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.359 I thought the books would be inex anyway to fee? 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:05.279 What about transaction fees when using online banking? 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:09.880 Discussing shut it off neo banks, we have the new cryptocurrency. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:10.960 Can do it? You can do it? 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:13.880 Someone said, unpaid internships. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:15.520 No, I'm all for that. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.919 We're from unpaid internship culture. Though, when people ask me 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:24.960 like what I found to be perhaps most helpful with 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.719 working in media, it was all the unpaid internships I 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.320 did where I felt like I was able to extract 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.440 so much value without really giving much in return. Like 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.680 you just show up, people give you grunt work like 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.000 pack this pr box, and yes you should be paid 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.240 for your labor. But all the information I gathered just 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.040 to be able to sit in rooms, yeah, I felt 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:50.000 like I scam them. Maybe that's what capitalism wants me 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.560 to think. Anything else off the dome. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:55.680 I feel like the real scams are things that you 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.159 don't realize until it's too late. A lah Adobe. 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.200 Subscription, having to pay for thoo that grows out of 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:08.560 the ground, fritten veggies and it's pricey too that I 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:12.120 don't get. And again, let's pay for the labor, but 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.320 the physical veggie, it was already gonna be there. 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.200 I guess it just sounds like you want to be 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:20.280 born in a different time. 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.440 I'm happy to be here where we're at, but it 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:27.360 could be different right now, Like if we all were 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.000 a bit more self sustaining and had our own farms, 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.720 we could just go pick a tomato at the back, 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.159 pick ahead of lettuce. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.719 That's what your subscriptions for Farmville. 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.160 This is flex and frooms. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.440 If there's one thing to know about my co host 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.480 sitting over there in the orange pants and the dojer 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:50.040 Cat printed graphic tea that she made herself I did, 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.480 and the bland Siaga crocs. Yeah, it's that Flex has 0:06:53.640 --> 0:07:00.159 a overwhelming interest. I say it would special interest, special interests, 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:05.000 a conspiracy theory interests, and that is around aliens. Flex 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.719 is convinced that aliens exist. Oh, abs, let me not, 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:13.240 Let me not. I am more on the fence. You're 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:19.320 a denier. I haven't seen proof anyway. Because I'm trying 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.200 to get prepared for the show, I'm trying to find 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:22.760 ways to relate to you. I thought I'm going to 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.680 find an alien story on the internet. That's sweet, thank you. 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.800 And the first one that I found was rather serendipitous, 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.200 and I think it proved my point that aliens don't exist. 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.120 Some imp trying to read it out for you. You 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:39.000 tell me if you still believe after this. Denise Stoner 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.240 was two and a half years old the first time 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.600 she remembers an alien taking it. She was at home 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.560 in Hartford with her grandfather. Her mother was at the 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:51.560 hospital giving birth to her younger sister. She remembers staring 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.160 out at a large picture window seeing an egg shaped 0:07:55.240 --> 0:08:00.480 object in the sky offering above some power lines. What's 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.440 Humpty Dumpty doing up in the sky, she asked. She 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.440 remembers a few in her grandfather's face when he suggested 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.880 it was time for bed. Later that night, as she 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.680 lay staring at her nursery rhyme themed wallpaper, an entity 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.800 walked through her wall. He looks like a monk. He 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.360 had a robe and he was carrying a light. I 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.280 wasn't afraid of him, she said. He put out his 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.200 other hand for me to take it, and I did. 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.240 We walked out into the hallway. The alien pointed his 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:32.160 light at the wall. They disappeared through it. Since then, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.000 she says, it has taken more than fifty times from 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.920 her home, the streaked her car, and the last time 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.880 only three years ago, driving through the mountains of Colorado. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.199 He just looks like a typical gray alien, but he's 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.680 one of the tall ones, just a very subtle shape 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.040 of the face his She is a little. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:54.040 That's the ship I've ever heard. 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:57.280 Listened to that. 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:04.400 I just still believe that aliens what's going on? 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.679 And that's the evidence you bought. I just want to 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:11.720 get to the bottom of the alien thing with you, 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:13.560 because you seem to talk about them constantly. 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:15.880 Yeah, but I want to get to the bottom of 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.520 how are you going to dispute it? And bring the 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:26.920 first person account of a random child from the seventies. Okay, 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.160 so I need to understand how to dispute the fact 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:34.760 that aliens exist. You've bought this firsthand RinkyDink account of 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:39.320 some child in the seventies internalizing et and think it 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:40.640 was their own personal truth. 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.200 My thing with aliens flex is that there's so much 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.000 an earth that we have not yet found. Why are 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.920 we wasting time trying to find aliens. It's like a 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.000 boy that doesn't like you, stop chasing. If he wanted you, 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.199 he'd be here already. Aliens, if they are so great, 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.480 have the technology to come and find us? Do they 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:03.400 find us? Only see find the crazy people suggested that. 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:09.359 So your hypothesis is that we should not seek out information. 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:13.800 We should wait till information reveals itself. Probably so for 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:19.319 any health issue, any greater understanding of the world, any 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.480 recipe which just wait till it reveals itself in front 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.160 of us, it should just manifest. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.600 Some would say seek out answers. It's a Catholic type approach. 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.000 Do you have some Catholic blood in me? What do 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.840 you get out of knowing that aliens exist? 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.480 My priority is believing that more things exist than we understand. 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.600 I think it's very closed minded to shut down something 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.720 and we have no proof evil way. 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.760 So do you take that same approach with God? Yeah? 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.080 Like so much of what exists in the world I 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.640 will never experience, have not ever experienced. So I think 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:56.480 it's a bit bullish to deny it completely. Like, for example, 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.400 you know how when I could walk into a room 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:03.360 and say, oh, I had a really bad experience at 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.959 a certain bar and I was attacked, and so I 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:07.439 might be like, oh, my god, like I always have 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.800 a great time there, Okay, I'm telling you what I know. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.000 Or let's say we've both never been to this bar, 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.640 but I've heard terrible things. You've heard great things. Why 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.000 can't they just both be true. Me saying that something 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.000 could exist, it's not saying that it doesn't exist for you. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.480 It's just saying in my world, in my reality, that 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:29.800 possibility seems plausible. But what I think about denying something 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:34.160 is that if we had visual confirmation of everything that 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.440 was possible, then I would totally understand when someoneould be like, 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:41.000 I don't believe it because everything else that is true 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.520 in the world I've seen, but we don't have visual 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.400 confirmation of so much stuff that we believe. 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.559 What are some other examples, like love that's. 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.480 Just a concept that we've all written poetry about, and 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.360 like reverse engineered chemical shit that happens. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.920 That's just the theory facts. It is chemicals, isn't it. 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.400 You know, it's kind of like this is what happens. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.079 Is it just attachment, it's just obsession, Like it's just 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:06.520 my special interest for the day. 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:07.880 How I know I love them. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:12.880 We've just like collectively agreed in this delusion like breakfast, 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.800 this idea that you should be eating this meal first 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.280 thing in the morning. But if it's morning here and 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.440 nighttime in Ghana, then isn't. 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.040 That theory debunked? M No, it isn't. 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.319 We've just managed to understand that two things can be true. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:32.480 It is morning here, nighttime there. Knowing both doesn't cancel. 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:32.760 Out each other. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.000 They both can exist. So my thing with aliens is 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:40.120 that I like this idea of conceptualizing that there is 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.320 so much greater than what I don't understand, and that 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.920 is interesting to me. My life doesn't change either way, 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:51.800 but I do think that a lack of openness around 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.719 the concept of believing in things you can't experience. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.920 I can't do that shit. But I also was raised religious, 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.839 so like, hmm, you know you being raised religious would 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:04.719 make me think you would be more like I am. 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.520 Well, raise religious in the sense. But like so much 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.520 of that underpinning is about faith and having just to 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.559 believe things will work out, things will work in your favor, 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:13.760 things are going to happen. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:20.280 Logically, knowing that necessarily things might not work in your favor, 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.840 it's making more or less of a believer. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.800 Logically knowing that things might not work in my favor 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.560 makes me less of a believer in what faith? 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.319 Mmm mmm, I. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.080 Don't necessarily think of faith in that way. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:37.560 Like things. 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.240 Let's say, if we're talking talking things might not work out, 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.640 like I might not go to Panama in my lifetime. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:50.400 Me say, I have faith that might that might happen. Well, 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.320 I could do that tomorrow. That's not really like an 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:57.120 omnipotent thing I'm leaving in the air. It's like I 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:58.800 could just go. I don't need to have faith that 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:00.319 will happen. I could just go it. 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.960 I mean things that you can't necessarily control. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.760 Like I have faith that I'm not going to die tomorrow. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:10.200 Yes, yeah, do you have faith in that? Yeah? It's 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.680 just a delusion that I say to keep me happy. Right, 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.280 So you have, since becoming an adult, learned that a 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:21.880 lot of faith based things are delusions. For me for you. Yeah, interesting, 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.040 like aliens a complete delusion. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.160 Yeah, but so is everything. It's like object permanent to 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.320 a delusion. The fact that Will can be behind me 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:30.920 and I can't see him and he's got to like 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:35.520 take my take everyone's word for him. That's insane. What's 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:36.280 a little bit. 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.880 Like how a couple of days ago in the studio, 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:43.160 all of a sudden a gust of cold came. We 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:43.800 all felt it. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.040 We all felt that it was a breeze of cold 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.960 in a close studio with no ventilation. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:53.160 So weird. But spooky things don't happen in fring his world. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.040 No, are you trying to explain it? Don't worry about it, 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:57.240 you know. 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.760 I only say that I don't believe in aliens, just 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:00.720 Yankee Chain. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.080 Yeah. And the thing is, like we've spoken about before, 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.440 I like discussing concepts. I don't care for answers, and 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.040 I think that I zone out very quickly out of 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.280 conversations where people are trying to get to the bottom 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.960 of it and solve it. It's like, we're not going 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:20.480 to solve it in this conversation. Injuriate is just get 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.120 a greater understanding, and that's it. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.840 And I think that's quite difficult for people to for 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.440 people for you. For me, I always say for people 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.480 whenever I say you know some people, No, I'm talking 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:37.000 about myself. It's my roundabout way of never surrounding myself. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:38.440 I recommend you try it sometime. 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.880 This is flex and Frooms on Kada. 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.360 Where do you think is the best country to be 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:43.720 a woman? 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:49.400 Sweden? What makes you say that? Rolling hills, little ponds 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.040 to wash yourself in like a beautiful princess. Now, I 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.920 don't know, Probably not Australia. Why do you say that, 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:02.880 because we're like, we're like notoriously sexist, racist, you know, 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.720 a lot of the bubbling not We could go either way. 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:12.040 Okay, best countries to be a woman starting in at 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:19.200 number five Luxembourg, followed by Denmark, Iceland, Finland, Norway. 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.800 So you're right with Scandinavia. I feel like these are 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:25.840 all places that have some sort of basic income situation 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:30.840 popping what you mean in basic income situation? Like what's 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:35.560 it called universal basic income? Oh? Yeah, all that some 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.920 such all those kind of things that help women. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.440 I'm glad you sound as inspired as I thought you 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:45.520 would sound. It's fantastic. No, you think it's fascinating. I 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:50.040 mean the criteria, what are the metrics? Well, this is 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:51.400 what I was saying. I was trying to find the 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.360 criteria of it, and it was based on things like sentiment, 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.320 what is the general feeling about this place? 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.520 How other countries perceive this place generally. 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.400 So it's like a bit of vibes, a bit of 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.800 measurement system, a lot of data that I couldn't unpack. 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.119 I was like, what does that number mean? You know, 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:11.200 but good to know the way. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.639 Yeah, we can move there. Yea, you turn over to 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:14.439 northern Europe. 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.359 Do you know my thing about moving somewhere else? I 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.159 don't play tax into places. Oh do you have to 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:20.960 play both places? Oh you've got a business. 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.439 Hey yeah, Well I'm a free agent, so I can 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:27.680 live out all your fantasies. Weight here toilet, please don't 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.120 to buy for me? Yeah, facts poor to potty. 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:31.920 You're listening to flex and frooms. 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.439 It's time for a love line. That's when somebody sends 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:40.320 in a love relationship dilema and we love these there's 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.040 a little bit of roasting that occurs. 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.600 The roasting always happened, but I think it's good to 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.600 keep discussions around love light and silly. 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:50.560 You know, it's traumatic enough for a lot of people. 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:51.400 This is true. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:52.920 The roast is for character development. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.280 Well, this is a big, fat, long one, so let's 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.760 just get straight into it. Thank you. I have a 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.199 good relationship with my boyfriend. We have been data for 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.480 six months. However, I can't help but feel weird about 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.680 his relationship with anime and hentai. From the start, I 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:08.600 knew he liked anime, and that's one of the reasons 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.800 we became close. However, now I'm getting even more close. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.760 I can't help or realize how much a biggest sexual 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:19.159 role anime plays in his life. For context, He's been 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.959 watching anime and consuming hen tai and animated erotica for 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.160 some years now. He even has a favorite anime girl 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.400 that he's dedicated to. Oh. His whole room is full 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.040 of posters of her. Always buys anything he can get 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:36.359 that is related to her, pillows, figurines. He also has 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.879 a massive collection of erotica related to her since dating. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:41.680 He knows that I have an bit of an issue 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:43.679 with it, so he has been taking down some of 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:47.159 the posters. However, there are some pitchures he can't be 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.320 unattached to, so he's had to keep some. He used 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.200 to refer to this specific anime character as his waifu, 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:55.160 and has told me how he used to feel happy 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.760 when people jokingly said that she was his girlfriend. I 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.959 love that. I know that he has tried to reduce 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.919 his hen tie consumption since we started dating, but I 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.439 feel weird about seeing all the half naked posters in 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.679 his room and seeing him obsess over everything that relates 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:15.520 to this specific anime character. I don't want him to 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.840 stop doing things that he enjoys just for me, but 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.119 I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't prefer for 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.920 this specific aspect to be reduced or gone. I don't 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:28.160 know what to do help me flexing froomes. I feel 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:32.280 for her because clearly she likes him, but she needs 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.000 she needs to do some soul searching. When I was 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.040 a young girl dating a man a bit older, looked 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:42.200 through his computer one time images and I felt so gutted. 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.400 I felt betrayed. I was sixteen, so you know it 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.800 wasn't very worldly. But now I couldn't give her ratsass 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.399 because I know they're with me and he can't have 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.919 that woman in the photo. This man can't have that 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.400 anime bride, So just do you chill with it? 0:19:58.320 --> 0:19:58.560 Yeah? 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.560 Let him live see the thing. Initially I was like, oh, 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.119 this is just chill. Like he likes anime, he likes hentai. 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:08.880 People should have their interests and also fictional characters. We 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.840 all love our fictional characters. I think this in this instance, though, 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:17.240 it's less about the sexual element and more so about 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:21.440 his attachment that he couldn't choose to take a few 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:26.480 posters down, Like his relationship to this character is so strong. 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:29.480 He has to have the posters up, he has to 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:30.640 keep the memorabilia. 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:31.959 He has to keep it up. 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:37.040 That's his girlfriend, baby. And the point that she made 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.560 initially is right, like, we shouldn't be able to tell 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.959 people what their interest should or shouldn't be for our 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.880 own benefit. And I think it's a slippery slope because 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.399 you started out in this relationship liking this interest together. 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.120 And also I'm not sure that she even knows how 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.040