WEBVTT - ELIMINATED QUEENS Week 7 - RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE DOWN UNDER - Reality TV Contestant 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.640 TV Reload, the podcast past deep their line Welcome back 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:06.640 guys to TV Reload. As you may know, my name 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.080 is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast to get 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.520 all the inside goss on the popular TV shows you 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.560 may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, our TV 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.000 sets are a major part of our home entertainment, and 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.760 yet very little is known about how our favorite shows 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.480 get made. So each episode I've been finding guests they'll 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.239 want to dive just that little bit deeper into the 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:26.640 shows they're currently making, so that you can hear all 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.560 their exclusive stories and gain access to the biggest names 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.040 in Australian television. I want to thank you for downloading 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.760 or subscribing to this podcast however you've found me. I 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:36.960 love hearing your feedback, so make sure you leave a 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.840 review or a comment on your chosen podcast platform. Today's episode, 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.680 I'm joined by this week's eliminated Queen from RuPaul's Drag 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.160 Race down Under season three. It is the Fabulous Hollywood Star. 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.120 The Sydney based drag Queen has been in Australia now 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.000 for nine years and has brought a lot of their 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.680 musical theater experience to their drag I think audiences will 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.160 see a lot of her empathy in her final episode, 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.280 and you do get a sense that this is just 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.720 a jumping off point to where Hollywood can take this 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.959 whole RuPaul's Drag Race experience. We are at the pointy 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.040 end of the competition, so there is a lot to 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.000 unpack today and I'm excited to get some insights on 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.320 how the experience went down during the filming of season three. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.959 I will find out how Hollywood Star got her name 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.640 and we will get to hear more about their backstory 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.080 that we didn't get to see on the show. Hollywood 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.199 will talk about her bond with Flow and which queen 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.360 she feels deserves the crown. Next week, you will also 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.760 get an exclusive as to what happens to the queens 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.320 as they leave the show, and Hollywood will talk about 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.800 this missed opportunity she had with Snatch Game. Plus, we 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.000 will get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.759 RuPaul's Drag Race down Under season three, which is now 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:46.040 available on STAN Australia. Anyway, let's bring Hollywood into the podcast, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.880 and guys, I hope you enjoy this really special look 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:53.280 at RuPaul's Drag Race season three for Week seven. Hi, Hollywood, 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:54.639 how are you good? 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:55.200 How are you? 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.240 I'm very well, very excited to be talking to you. However, 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.560 I'm just going to say to you right off the bat, 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.640 I did not pick you going home from that lip 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:03.600 sync at all. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.920 Neither did I. Obviously you know. I haven't seen it. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.400 I can't see it, but I remember what I did 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:10.840 because I'm still feeling it. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:16.240 I just can't get over it. Like it it normally Okay, 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:17.720 it's just a bit of a spoiler for people who 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.639 listen to the podcast. We do get to watch people 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.560 in the media. We'll get to watch the episodes without 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.880 the results. So we watched it a couple of days earlier, 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.480 and in the history of doing that, I've never got 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.400 it wrong. I just assumed I actually wrote out an 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.120 interview for someone else. So look at You're exciting to 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:32.800 be talking to you. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.120 Oh my god, that's hilarious. It was quite surprising for 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:37.919 me as well. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.480 So when you watch RuPaul's as much as I do, 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.560 and as much as people do from around the world, 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.760 with so many different incarnations, we often follow certain edits 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.040 and my thoughts with you from the first episode was 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.200 you were getting a final Girl edit, a top three 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.799 edit at least. How did it feel in the moment? 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.320 Did you feel as though you were a Top three 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:01.600 girl right from the start. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:03.480 Right from the start, I knew I was going to 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.440 make Top three. I knew I was to make Top three. 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:10.040 But it's just because I was so laser focused on 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.800 getting to the Top three that I was like this. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:13.560 It was an ultimatum for me. I was like, I 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:14.359 have to do well. 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.959 You did so well, like as in, I think we're 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.680 going to remember you. You're very iconic for this season. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.000 You really did stand out. So look, I can't believe 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:23.840 that you've come out at this stage, but I think 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.480 that there's big things happening for you. 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.160 No, definitely, Like you know, I got a lot of airtime, 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.680 really did. It's not all about winning nowadays, you know, 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.600 like if you even thinking about it, like sometimes you 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.120 don't even remember some of the winners. It's the people 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.120 that you know do iconic things and say things and 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.960 have these taglines and like look at miss Vanjie, she 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.960 went out first, and look at her. She's like over 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.600 a million followers and work the world doing all these things. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:48.360 Chandela. 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.840 You know, she's not the only person you know who 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.280 has done so many seasons. You know, in her season 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.480 she people thought that she was going to win her 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.760 All Stars and you know that, you know, kerfuffle have 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.400 happened with her and stuff, Manila los On. You know, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.840 things like this always happen in drag Race and it's 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.160 kind of iconic, you know when things happen like this, 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.440 and it kind of it goes to show that, you know, 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.120 winning is in everything because you can still be very successful. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.320 I think that's very true, and I think more so 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.520 in Australia, I think because we have a bit of 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.880 tall poppy syndrome here. Sometimes the winner we feel like 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.120 we've given them the win and then we want them 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.000 to go away, you know, then we follow the story 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.120 of the people who came second and third. I mean, 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.040 but I think I'm really looking forward to seeing what 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:31.680 you do with this experience. I mean, if you've got 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:33.480 a plan as to where you want to take it. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.200 Oh absolutely, I've I've waited for a platform for a 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.160 very long time, and I think people will see Hollywood 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:44.560 as you know, this fresh young queen and yes I am. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.000 You know, I've a live been doing Drag Wron Now 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.960 in November, it'll be two years. But I have been 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:53.120 performing for my entire life and I've waited for something 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.000 like this for a long time. So now to get 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.839 this platform and to have this voice, I'm not taking 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.839 it lightly. I think to have a platform and to 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.760 not make change, I think, why have it? 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:05.159 You know. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.440 So I'm looking forward to doing stuff, more stuff with 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.120 the community, more things for you know, other you know, 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.320 POC people and immigrants and you know that migrate to 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.880 Australia and stuff like that. So I just feel very 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.120 grateful that now I can finally do that. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.560 Well, you did say in the show, you know you're 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:25.440 relatively new to doing drag. What has the journey been like? 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.479 How did you come to Australia. I feel like there's 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:28.839 a lot that we don't know about you. 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.760 Yeah, definitely, and I talked about it, but a lot 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:36.000 of it didn't get shown. But yeah, I was born 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.200 and raised in America and then I moved to Australia 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.480 nine years ago. I came for a visit, just came 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.360 for a visit for a month and thought, oh my god, 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.279 people actually live here. This is like holiday, Like literally, 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.560 look at me. Saying holiday very Australian of me. We 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.040 say vacation. It's like vacation, you know. You can go 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.440 to work and then go for a swim in like 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.839 Bondai Beach at like five pm, you know. And so 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:02.039 that really drew me into just experimenting for a year. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:03.520 I was like, I'll just live here for a year 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.760 and see what happens. That one year turned into two, three, 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.360 and now it's been nine. In January it'll be ten. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.560 And I think just the work life balance for here 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.360 is so beautiful. You guys have medicare people live really 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.599 well here, and that kind of drew me to Australia. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:21.800 And I also love the accents. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.839 We love your accent. You're sounding very sexy today. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.400 I'm just gonna say thank you. You know, it's just 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:30.520 for you, just for you. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.520 I'm just starting to hear that you can hear the 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.960 Australian in your you can hear the Australian accent in 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.880 your American accent, which I'm really enjoying. 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:39.839 Yeah, it's nice. 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.200 Like my mom, whenever I talked to her, She's like, 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.400 you sound Australian, but of course you know, when you're 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.839 here for a long time, like you start to, you know, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.680 pick up different accents, and accents are just generally of people, 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.320 you know, being understood and stuff, So I kind of 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.320 I like, but my American accents very neutral as well. 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.200 What did your mom think about when you told your 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.000 mom you were doing drag? What did she say? 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:01.520 She loved it? I think. 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.520 So I did Kinky Boots, and my performing I have 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.280 a history in performing background, so I was accepting to 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.880 Julliard in America, I went to Manhattan School Music. I've 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.440 done operas all over the world, and then I moved 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.040 into musical theaters. So I've done professional productions with like 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.400 The Book of Mormon, and so that Kinky Boots was 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:19.320 the first time that I've. 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:20.360 Ever been in drag. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.520 And my auntie and my grandmother flew all the way 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:27.120 from South Carolina to watch me do Kinky Boots in Australia. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.560 And that's the first time my family kind of saw 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.400 me dress up as a woman, and I was quite 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:37.680 shocked that they were so just open and beautiful about it. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.160 And when I got into RuPaul's drag race, they were 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.400 so excited. They're watching it now and my mom is pissed. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:49.040 Of course, I'm pissed. I'm not even related to so angry. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.160 She was like, I cannot believe this, Like you know, 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.160 I was like, Mom, you have to remember reality television show. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.640 You know, it is a competition, but it's also reality television. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.880 I just I had to explain to her, like, you know, 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.679 look at you know, the airtime, and like how people 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.400 were going to feel now that you know that didn't 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.640 get to the finale. Of course I'm feeling this type 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.080 of way. But you know, I'll let other people say it. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:13.040 I won't have to say it. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:14.880 We'll get over it. Tell me how did you get 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.200 Hollywood stuff? I'd love to know how you you got 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:17.560 the name. 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.880 I have been obsessed with pop culture since I was 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:26.960 a child. Michael Jackson, Withitney Houston, you know, Dorothy Dandridge. 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:30.920 I always loved watching these old Hollywood films, and I 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:35.320 loved Betty Boop and Lucille Ball, Like when I was 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.880 a child, this is my mom used to watch all 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.959 the time, Diane Carroll. And so when I was thinking 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.040 of a drag name, I was like, what can I 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:48.240 think of that is glamorous but also quite funny and fake, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.600 because you know, that's what Hollywood is the name is 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.600 super super glamorous, and people think like, oh, if you're Hollywood, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.240 you're so glamorous, and you know, just you hold this 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.200 your way this way, you know. But also so if 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.040 you've been to Hollywood, it's actually a dump. 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.920 I lived there for six months, and I remember when 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:07.760 I first got there. I mean, i'd been there on 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.160 a holiday when I was a kid, so I kind 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.800 of had some idea. But I remember after i'd been 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:13.600 there for like a week, I was like, this place 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.199 is a cement hole. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:16.960 Yes, exactly. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:18.880 So that's why it's kind of funny. Like that's why 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.000 I said, and I like, welcome to the Queens. I said, 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.440 Hollywood is a facade. You think that, you know, but 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.400 there are the cracks. And that's why I kind of 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.920 changed it to Hollywood. And then I added star at 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:29.839 the end because I just thought I was a. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.320 Star and yes you are. Girl. The thing about Hollywood 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.640 when I leaved there was that the more you lived there, 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.240 the more you got into a bit of a routine, 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.440 and you sort of stepped out of all of the 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.160 bizarreness of the nature of that place and you could 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.920 go run run in canyon and go to the farmer's market, 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.400 and there are some very beautiful things about Hollywood, just 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.920 in case people come for me and be like, there 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:52.840 are What did you think of watching yourself back on 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.520 the show? I mean, if you really enjoyed the edit 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:55.080 that we've seen. 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.480 Ultimately, I was not mad at it. I wasn't mad 0:09:58.520 --> 0:09:58.840 at it. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.160 Think they showed some really great moments, but I do 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.480 wish they would have shown some more of like you said, 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.920 some more of my background and talking about some of 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:14.520 the vulnerability moments that I thought I showed. And I 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.560 was confused, you know, when they said that they wanted 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.800 to see that, because I know that in the workroom 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.520 there were definitely stories and all kinds of things that 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.240 I talked about my childhood and upbringing and trauma and 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.559 things that they didn't show, which was quite disappointing because 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:32.160 I think that would have really rounded out of how 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.680 professional and polished and why I'm so confident and where 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.679 that confidence came from, you know, and why I hold 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:43.120 myself so professional and serious in some ways. But overall, 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.439 I was happy, Like, I really loved the moments. So 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.640 when they showed me comforting people and my friendship with Floor, 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.800 because that's the real people who actually know me know 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.080 that I am so nice and so kind and can 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.400 attest to that. It was a little terrifying at first 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.520 in the first episode when they were like, oh, you know, 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.640 I heard Hollywood's a bitch, and I was like, oh 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.720 my god, I hope they're not going to give me 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.200 this edit because first of all, and the whole drag 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:11.440 Race franchise is always, you know, this history of turning 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.680 POC people into this you know, evil queens and bitchy 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:16.640 and all of these things, and I was like, and 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:20.920 that is definitely not me. So I'm glad that they 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.880 softened it after that first episode because I was like, 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.280 I didn't really give them anything in that aspect. 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.280 It's not really who you are. Like you said, even 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.000 in your final episode, there is a really beautiful moment 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:35.520 with your makeover, and the way in which that you're 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:39.520 relating to her is really empathetic and it's very kind. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.280 I think that I do think that people and audiences 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.440 will walk away with a very positive look at you 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.600 overall once you watch the final thing all come together. 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.000 Yeah, Oh that's nice. That's nice to know. I do 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:53.520 have a lot of empathy for people. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.680 That's one thing that I hold very close to my 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.600 heart because I know how it feels and a lot 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.920 of different ways of try mind to be left out 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:06.920 and singled out, and you know, just to feel disappointed 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:08.480 about a lot of things I reckon. 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.080 I could count on my hand the amount of times 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.400 that of cry watching RuPaul's or not really cried, like 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.040 I wasn't sobbing, but I had tears in my eyes 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.800 for watching you talk in this episode. So that's an 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.199 amazing thing to do in a show like this, because 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.120 I mean, it is supposed to be very fun and 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.160 very light, you know, so I think they've made a 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.200 bold choice with that story that you get in the 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.640 final episode, which I think, yeah, you haven't seen yet, 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.040 so it'll be interesting for you to watch. 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.160 Oh that's I am looking forward to it. I'm gonna 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.880 grab my tissues, you know. 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.320 I think I was talking to my partner and I 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.199 was like, oh, I don't even know if I want 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.000 to watch this episode. I might take a few days 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:45.880 for me to watch it. 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:46.600 I don't know. 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:50.480 It's hard because I remember the experience and having those 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.720 conversations with Arlene was hard. But then also it's going 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.120 to be quite disappointing to see me losing on television 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.920 and knowing how I felt in that moment of just disappointment. 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.480 Of course, you know it's been months now and stuff, 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.920 and I've gotten mostly over it and things like that. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.040 But you know, I just I might take a day, 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:09.880 who knows, and then I'll just today, I'll watch it 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:11.720 right at five pm. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.760 You should, because this is a celebration. This is your 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.679 time to reclaim that moment like, this is a powerful 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.400 moment for you. This is a celebration of you. That's 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.760 how I see it. So and I think you'll watch 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.840 this episode. I think you're going to be really proud 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:25.679 of yourself. I do. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:27.240 Oh that's so great. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.840 Well then I will I watch it today and see 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:32.640 what happens in what mpauls. 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.360 I think for a very long time, Sydney was like 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.120 the gay capital of Australia. Do you think that it 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.160 still owns that title here in Australia and New Zealand 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.040 or do you think that Melbourne and New Zealand have 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:44.280 kind of taken away some of that? 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.920 Oh definitely. I used to live in Melbourne for three years. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.600 I love Melbourne. I love both cities equally. Yeah, No, 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.719 I think that like the scene definitely in Melbourne is 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.360 equal in that sense, and I think there are other 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.160 you know, cities that are coming up as well. Even 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.560 in Adelaide, Mary's Poppin's, like Stephen Kradacht is doing such 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.360 amazing things there for that, you know, just for little 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.360 old Adelaide, and Brisbane with Harry Kay is doing a 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.720 lot of stuff as well. So I think Sydney is 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.760 obviously the biggest one in that aspect, but it's because 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.360 they had it for so long. But it's definitely spreading 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:19.480 out and definitely spreading out. 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.400 How have you gone with interacting with your fans online? 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:23.800 Like what do people want to know when they hit 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:24.120 you up? 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.520 Oh my gosh, They've been so amazing, Like I like 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.560 got a little shout out from like Jeremy Scott the 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.560 other day, Tay sent me a message I love tas. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:32.400 I love taste. 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.560 Everyone has been so sweet and just like living for 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.400 my drag and things and it is so cool. And 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.080 you know, even people like have been messaging me and saying, 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.040 you know, the way that you hold yourself in this 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.240 confidence that you know you have and stuff is so 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:46.280 inspiring for me. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:47.080 And when I. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:50.800 Watched the show, I feel it's like my might get away, 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:52.880 and you know that means a lot to me that 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.640 you know, I'm you know, making change, and I've yeah, 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.400 I've just always wanted a platform to make change. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:04.320 Ashley Madison was actually sharing on her socials this week. 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.680 She know, she was talking about the breach of privacy 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.200 on some of these subreddit pages. I don't know if 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.200 you saw that, but do you think that there should 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.120 be harsher punishment for revenge porn like that? That's what 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:17.200 I call it, revenge porn for like entertainers like yourself. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:18.080 Absolutely. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.640 I think it's such a private thing and you trust people, 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.800 you put your trust in people, and like, you know, 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.240 I think there should be consequences, like if you are 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.880 trying to you know, hurt harm people, because that's that's 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.680 that's not something where you're just like, oh, that person's dumb, 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:36.040 you know, that's trying to you know, really just take 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.320 them down. And so I believe, yeah, there should there 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.160 should be something done. You're like, you know, there there 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.160 needs would be some rule set in place so people 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:44.200 know that you can't do that. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.400 If it hasn't happened to you, I don't think you 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.400 understand it. It's way more psychologically. It affects you in 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.000 different ways. So that's why I'm you know, I thought 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.160 it was really powerful for Ashley Madison to share that 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:57.880 and get sort of information out about it. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:59.000 Yeah. No, definitely. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.200 But getting back to the episode, I just wanted to 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.880 ask what was going on with Gabriella Labucci's face during 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.760 that pre lip sync post lip sync Gabriella looked terrified. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.200 Was there something that we weren't seeing in that moment? 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.560 I couldn't understand why she looked. She looked like she 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:14.920 was about to shit herselves. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.880 I mean, if I had to lip sync against Hollywood, 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:22.000 I would shit myself too. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:23.360 Oh my gosh. 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.160 But you know what, in hindsight, she won, so you know, 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.320 you know it was fine, you know she won. 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.000 But you know, I don't know what to. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.640 Say about that because I know I slayed. I know, 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.840 I fucking slayed, and I was pulling out some tricks 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.480 that I didn't show in the competition before, just saving 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.760 it just in case. You know, I don't know how 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.640 it looks and things, and my only prediction is that 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.800 they probably just didn't show all of my things, because 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.240 like if anyone would have seen what I was doing 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.200 and stuff. I think, Yeah, I don't know. I just 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.200 it was really confusing. But I don't really even remember 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.800 all of her face facial expressions and things because I 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.920 was so laser focused. I kind of it was just 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.200 you kind of like blanket. They put you there, and 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.000 then it's a very long process. You have to get 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.040 miked and then unmiked, and then all this stuff and 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:08.159 you have to wait for the things, they have to 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.919 test the music, and then you just do it and 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:12.640 it just goes by like that. 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.159 What happens when you get eliminated? So you get eliminated 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.320 and we say it like play out as you say, 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.480 sche away, But how quickly do they send you back 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.440 home to Sydney? I mean, what sort of a process 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.520 goes into place once we stop seeing you on screen? 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.439 So you get eliminated, you say your exit line, you 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.680 do your exit interview, and then you have to come 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.200 back and do your like normal interviews, and they ask 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.680