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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: The next guest, is one of the country's most respected

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Speaker 2: journalists and after six months sabbatical, she's returning to the

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Speaker 2: ABC tonight. Having helmed ABC's seven thirty for twelve years,

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Speaker 2: she's heading in a different direction, joining the Australian Story

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Speaker 2: Team as its new presenter.

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Speaker 3: Lee Sales allies, Well, Heidi Hope people where sabbatical? Is

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Speaker 3: that up Nitai or somewhere like that little caravan park?

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Speaker 4: You know what was such a such a shock to

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Speaker 4: the sister and having to be on publicity round staf.

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Speaker 4: I've had to run a brush through my hair for

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Speaker 4: the first time.

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Speaker 1: Oh ladies, I like though that this.

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Speaker 2: You've known you're going to be taking this job on

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Speaker 2: for some time, but you really didn't start until this

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Speaker 2: week because you write the and prepare and film the

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Speaker 2: intros pretty much just before they go to air.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. That's all right. So I've been it work

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Speaker 4: a bit because I've just been up there learning their

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Speaker 4: workflows and figuring out how do they commission stories and

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Speaker 4: you know, how do you be involved in that part

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Speaker 4: of the process. But in turn of the actual turnaround, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're just doing it kind of every week as you

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Speaker 4: go amazing.

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Speaker 1: So who's on tonight?

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Speaker 4: Ah, it was, It's so great, Amanda. It's this guy

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Speaker 4: called Saul Griffith. And you know, you know so often

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Speaker 4: when you watch the news, you sort of feels like

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Speaker 4: there's so many problems and issues around the world, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you're like, maybe I just look

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Speaker 4: at it and go, oh, it's just still too hard.

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Speaker 4: I just want to binge watch Rue Paul and eat

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Speaker 4: some burger rings and you know, just switch out to it.

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Speaker 4: So this guy, so, he's an engineer, he's like a

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Speaker 4: problem solver. He grew up in one of those families

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Speaker 4: where the dad like pulls apart car and sticks it

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Speaker 4: back together kind of thing, and then he grew up

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Speaker 4: Saul Griffith to be an engineer. And then the problem

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Speaker 4: that he's working at the moment is climate change after

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Speaker 4: a big career in America and so on, and he's

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Speaker 4: just he explained it so clearly. And he's got this

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Speaker 4: community down near Willongong where he lives, where they're attempting

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Speaker 4: to get the whole community to move all their household

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Speaker 4: appliances onto electricity powered by renewables. And the way that

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Speaker 4: he explained it. I kind of finished. I felt like,

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Speaker 4: that's just seems not that hard. So I felt actually

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Speaker 4: kind of optimistic and hopeful at the end of it,

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Speaker 4: where it's normally have feel just.

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Speaker 1: Gutted and feel hopeless.

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Speaker 3: At the end of those sto you get a feeling

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Speaker 3: lately you think, oh, if they shut down all the

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Speaker 3: coal fired power stations and stuff like that, we're going

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Speaker 3: to be all sitting around a candle.

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Speaker 1: It feels like there's nothing moving forward.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, this guy, the way that he explained it,

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Speaker 4: it was just so kind of clear. But he points

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Speaker 4: out that the issue is over time, you save money

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Speaker 4: like safe you have an electric car or sol a

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Speaker 4: power or whatever, but the startup costs a high So

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Speaker 4: the thing that puts me, for example, of buying an

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Speaker 4: electric car is because it just cost too much money.

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Speaker 4: Whereas he says, this government just gave people a bit

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Speaker 4: of a subsidy and people could actually get some of

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Speaker 4: this stuff. It'd be helping the climate. And then also,

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if any of you've got solar,

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Speaker 4: but over time to not have a power bill at all.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: You have to put the money at the beginning and

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Speaker 2: then all gets cheap along the way. Hey, I've got

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Speaker 2: a bone to pick with you. We are friends.

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Speaker 1: But what's happened? What about this?

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Speaker 2: A few people sent me this story that they saw

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Speaker 2: Lee at the end. I don't know where it's popped up,

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Speaker 2: but somewhere, and it says thirteen famous celebrity couples who

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Speaker 2: make us believe in true love. It's a photo of

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Speaker 2: you and you and my husband says that you're me,

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Speaker 2: But it's a photo of you.

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Speaker 3: And it's a really good picture of you and Harley too.

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Speaker 3: You look very happy together.

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Speaker 4: Me and Harley have seen for years. It's a shame

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Speaker 4: that it's coming out now on live radio.

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Speaker 1: But I'm happy for you. I'm too tired to not

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Speaker 1: be happy for it.

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Speaker 3: And in the back of the Shotley, there's a picture,

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Speaker 3: because this is at Harley's exhibition for his art show,

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Speaker 3: there's a picture of a topless woman with a bag

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Speaker 3: on it.

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Speaker 2: It was inappropriate nudity, and the theme of it was

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Speaker 2: was people on the being exposed on the red carpet.

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Speaker 2: But you don't but the emotion of it is never revealed,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: But behind your head's a picture of a nudie.

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Speaker 4: So it's a person with the jubblis out of the

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Speaker 4: bag over their head.

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Speaker 3: You someone's asked that that's what people are saying, is

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Speaker 3: that's why we're pushing out there to the Daily Mail.

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Speaker 1: With a jubbles out. You've said burger rings. Now you're

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Speaker 1: saying Joe an Australian story and to Keller's jubbling.

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Speaker 4: It's not the top of the list. The number two

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Speaker 4: is Ash Barty. The number one is a mandiciller.

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Speaker 3: It could be a two part story.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for it, one part for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's jubbly jubbly one this week and the next

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Speaker 3: week we get to jubbly two.

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Speaker 1: Well, how charming it is to talk to.

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Speaker 3: Your husband Harley for us?

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Speaker 1: Yes, please say hi to Harley. Time to put the

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Speaker 1: bins on.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: The s Trading Story returns tonight at eight o'clock on

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Speaker 2: ABC TV and ABC I View.

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Speaker 1: Love you to talk to you.