1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Sophie Torbah and coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day's 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: awkward hand injury Update, Booth, Hair's surprising new ambassador, and 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers' shock wedding day revelations. But first beloved Math's 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: couple Martha Califatitis and Michael Brunelli, have announced their pregnant 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: with their second child. The news was met with the 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: usual fanfare, However, there was an undertone of apprehension Kate 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: in the comments section. Yes so. Among the whirl wishers 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: were a lot of followers praying that Martha had an 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: easier pregnancy this time around, because when she fell pregnant 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: with her first son, Lucius, she experienced a rare condition 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: called HG. This completely wiped her out for her whole pregnancy. 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: I remember she was stuck in bed for months on end. 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: She said she couldn't eat or drink, and over a 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: five week period she lost ten kilos. To make matters worse, 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 1: the co people were in Europe when the condition first hit. 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: I remember photos emerged of Martha being wheeled off a plane. Well, 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: it's really sad because unfortunately this time around things have 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: played out in a similar way. So the caption of 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: this post did hint that Martha wasn't feeling well, so 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: alongside a video of her son kissing her pregnant belly, 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: she wrote, knocked up and knocked out. We'll be back 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: bigger and better soon, fingers crossed. Unfortunately, Martha was overseas 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: also again when the HG symptoms kicked in this time around. 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: So Martha and Michael were on an overseas brand trip 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: with their son and Martha's parents, and before embarking on 28 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: the trip, they knew Martha was pregnant, but they hoped 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: that she wouldn't experience HG this time around. However, when 30 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: they were in Hong Kong, she ended up starting to 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: feel nauseous and then when they got to Jubai she 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: was bed ridden for five days. And it was really 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: tricky because they were having to shoot all of this 34 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: content for this brand trip and a lot of her 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: followers were picking up that she wasn't actually in the content. 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: Michael ended up sharing a photo dump on the weekend explaining, yes, 37 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: this is actually where it hit and a lot of 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,639 Speaker 1: you picked it up, and we actually took this photo 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: to try and get people off the scent. Well, it 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: got so bad that doctors had to come to her 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: hotel room and give her medication and IV fluids. It 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: sounds horrendous, particularly happening in such a hot and humid 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: place like Hong Kong. Yeah. Well they're back home now, 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: and Michael explained that Martha had to spend a lot 45 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: of time in a dark room away from her son, 46 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: which was really difficult for both of them. Paul Luch 47 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: has apparently been stressing and been very clinging with Michael. 48 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: The good news is Martha has been making slow improvements, 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: but she still is suffering, but it seems to be 50 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: getting slightly easier for her. It's just so brave for 51 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: her to have a second child with that looming over you, 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: knowing that that's a potential. I mean, it's hard enough 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: being pregnant and being a mum without suffering from that 54 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: condition beforehand. Oh. I just don't know how she does it, 55 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: And I just really hope that she continues to improve 56 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: and feel better, because I mean, God, how tough would 57 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: that be. Also having a toddler that you're having to 58 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: parent as well. I mean, thank goodness for Martha that 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: she has the support of Michael and her parents as well. 60 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: She still lives with her parents, doesn't she. Yeah, they 61 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: all still live together, so I'm sure that would be 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: a great help. But again, like, it's not what you 63 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: want to be knocked out in bed for nine months. 64 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: All right, it's Tony, are vulnerable? Get deep. We've got 65 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: someone on my chest, guys. 66 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: New haircare brand Boof Hair is making headlines again for 67 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: executing yet another clever marketing campaign. This time, the team 68 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: is making a play for the boys, revealing a new 69 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: male ambassador which is set to make them serious bank So. 70 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: The brand attracted attention at the start of the year 71 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: for teasing that Indy Clinton had started an officer's job 72 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: with them, and now they've turned their attention to a 73 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: new ambassador. Yeah, they have been teasing this ambassador for 74 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: a while now, and they made the reveal last week 75 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: to their thirty eight thousand followers by sharing a real 76 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: declaring that Boof is for the boys too now. In 77 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: the video, they poked fun at Booth's most recent campaign 78 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: with Indy Clinton, and in the opening scene we see 79 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: the new ambassador from behind, looking into a fridge full 80 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: of Booth's hair Tonic, and they were wearing the iconic 81 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: blonde wig the Indy Clinton copped so much shit for 82 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: wearing in the first campaign. Yeah, and before revealing the 83 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: ambassador's identity, it flashed back and forth a vision of 84 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: Indie in the wig and then the new ambassador. Then 85 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: the new Ambassador flicks their hair to reveal that it 86 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: is in fact Jack Still from The Inspired Unemployed. Were 87 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: you surprised when he was unveiled? I was surprised, but 88 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: I think it's a stroke of genius because I am 89 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: a big fan of The Inspired Unemployed. I listened to 90 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: their podcasts, I watched their shows, and for quite some 91 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: time it's been clear that Jack has struggled with his 92 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: receding hairline. When I say that, I actually personally haven't 93 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: noticed that it's receding myself. But he gets a lot 94 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: of shit from Falcon and the other boys about it. 95 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: It seems like it's a real insecurity for him. So 96 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: as soon as I saw it, I'm like, Wow, that 97 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: is a really fantastic, genuine collaboration that makes sense. I 98 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: think it's pretty brave of him to put himself out 99 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: there because being a male, I think that it's a 100 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: bit of a taboo subject to talk about the fact 101 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: that you care about your hair and your appearance, particularly 102 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: in the field that he's in, Like he's going to 103 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of jokes made about him, but he's 104 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: almost taking the power back in this situation. But then 105 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: I also feel like it's becoming quite popular for men, 106 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: particularly on podcasts, to talk vulnerably about things. And there'd 107 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: be so many of the Inspired Unemployed audience who were 108 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: in their thirties who were also going through the struggles 109 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: of hair loss. So I'm interested. Is it a completely 110 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: new product specifically for men or is it just that 111 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: booth is good for men and women. No, it's actually 112 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: a gender neutral product, so it's for anyone with thinning hair, 113 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: but obviously they're trying to promote the fact that it 114 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: helps men with early baldness as well. I just think 115 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: that it's so clever because anything that the Inspired Unemployed 116 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: seemed to touch turns to goal. You only have to 117 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: look at the success of Better Beer, their beer brand 118 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: to see that they can make sales. I had a look. 119 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: The brand is now estimated to be worth thirty seven 120 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: million dollars. They've got a lot of fingers in pires 121 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: because Jack and Falcon also recently launched a travel brand 122 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: and app. What kind of makes sense because they had 123 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: a travel show where base sickly. Instead of ticking things 124 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: off your bucket list that you want to do, they 125 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: were doing all the things that you wouldn't want to do. 126 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: So again, it seems to be good branding there and 127 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: good crossover now. This video announcing Jack as a new 128 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: ambassador performed really well on their socials. It attracted two 129 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six thousand views, and there were plenty 130 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: of influencers hitting up the comments section, with Nicki Wescott 131 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: calling the video iconic and Jack's girlfriend Eden writing my 132 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: girlfriend is so cute. One follower also declared that this 133 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: was the collaboration everyone needed. It's so interesting that Jack 134 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: is dating Eden because she is a model that I 135 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: think a lot of listeners will recognize. Like she used 136 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: to do all the co Co and Lola stuff. Was 137 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: she on Kokie as well? 138 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 139 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: Cookai Like literally I bought so many artists of clothing 140 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: just because she modeled it. She's just that star she is. 141 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I saw this video where I think she put it 142 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: up and she said, when you surprise your boyfriend overseas, 143 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: and she saw Jack was at a supermarket and she 144 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: just ran up to him out of nowhere. He had 145 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: no idea that she was even in the country. And 146 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: there were so many nasty comments saying, oh, it gives 147 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: all the ugly guys hope that a hot girl will 148 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: be after us, and all this sort of stuff, And 149 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think Jack steals hot, Like I think 150 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: I actually think, I said to Brandon. I don't know 151 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: if it's just because they're both really funny and I 152 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: have great personalities. I think they're both good looking guys. 153 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they're both good looking guys, but I suppose 154 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: there might be a portion of their audience now that 155 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: are a bit mif that they're dating models. They've kind 156 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: of got that Hamish and Andy vibe. I mean Andy 157 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: went for a couple of supermodels as well, but he 158 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: was CLEO Bachelor of the Year for a long time too. 159 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: Is Meek and Gale's supermodel? Would you consider her super Yeah? 160 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: I suppeisely she's a supermodel, and that's just one supermodel 161 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: or whatever. He dated attractive women. Now getting into how 162 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Jack broke the news on his Instagram. He did open 163 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: up about his receding hairline in an Instagram story. Let's 164 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: have a listen to some of what he said. 165 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm receding. Yeah, probably only know from the podcast or 166 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: from the billboard. I can put up with me in 167 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: the middle of the city that was the size of 168 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: a freaking truck, or because you just come up to 169 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: me in the middle of the street or the airport 170 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: and tell me so to that. I got feelings, no stress. 171 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: What did I do though to avoid a trip to Turkey? 172 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: Because cparently, I have to sleep upright for two weeks 173 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: and you obviously know if you listen to podcasts or 174 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: you just know right now, I sleep shit and I'm 175 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: fucking weird oversleep, So I oh, I have been using this. 176 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: Jack then went on to say that he's been using 177 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: the product for six weeks, and he did a close 178 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: up on camera of how his hair has been thickening up, 179 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: and he told all of his Forehead Zellers and Forehead 180 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: brothers that there was no need to worry or stress 181 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: anymore because the tonic actually works. They must be paying 182 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: him a lot of money because he also followed it 183 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: up by creating a comedy skit about the product, which 184 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: he shared to his three hundred and twenty five thousand followers. 185 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: And in the video, Jack is having a massage with 186 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: his dad and he asks him when he first started 187 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: losing his hair. Let's throw it to the clip. 188 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, in my early thirties. Just noticed my fire old 189 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: is getting bigger. Really Yeah, within a year most of 190 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: it was gone and the rain hurt and the rain 191 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: drops hit my head and they're not transformed into devon 192 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: head and it's just stuck with me ever since you're right, 193 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: how well are you again? 194 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: Now? Jack, who recently just turned thirty, immediately jumped up 195 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: from the massage table and ran to the nearest public 196 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: phone box to order the hair tonic, and then, in 197 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: what looks like a drug deal, he gets the goods 198 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: and immediately puts the tonic on his hair. It was 199 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: a very clever video. Yeah, it was very funny. In 200 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: the caption, he wrote, just want to let you all 201 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: know that I have been using this for about six 202 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: weeks now and can confirm that it's good shit. I'm 203 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: really interested to see how well this product sells and 204 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: if it does in fact sell out I'm quite intrigued 205 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: to see how this actually works, because I think a 206 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: lot of guys would be happy to borrow their girlfriends 207 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: but might not actually want to make the commitment to 208 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: buy their own. But maybe that's the beauty in it 209 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: that you know, as a couple, you can share your 210 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: hair treatment. In terms of how this ambassador role works, 211 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: boof Hair actually said we welcome him to the family. 212 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: So initially I was like, I wonder if he's also 213 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: got shares in this business, a bit like Indy Clinton. 214 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: But I think that that was just a way of 215 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: welcoming him. I don't necessarily think that he'd buy into this. 216 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: It's a very clever way to show that this product 217 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: is for more than just postpartum women. 218 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 4: I almost wrapped up this blog without telling you what. 219 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: Actually happened to my hand. Sarah's Day has opened up 220 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: for the first time about how she injured her hand. 221 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: The YouTuber was set to launch her latest fitness program 222 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: when she sustained a suspected torn ligament in her thumb. 223 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: So if many followers feared this injury was going to 224 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: jeopardize the launch of her five to sixty challenge, Yeah, 225 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: many people thought maybe it would rule her out from 226 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: taking part, which would have been very detrimental to the 227 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: launch of this program because I think a huge selling 228 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: point is the fact that Sarah is supposed to be 229 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: doing the challenge alongside her fans. Yeah, I think her 230 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: taking part in the challenge is a big draw card, 231 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: particularly when she shares videos of her doing the different workouts. 232 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: And we have spoken about this program before, but just 233 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: to refresh listeners, men, you have to complete sixty workouts 234 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: in sixty days, so it's pretty intense. Luckily for Sarah, 235 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: she has been able to adapt the program around her injury, 236 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: so she has just been swapping some exercises out for others. Now, 237 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: this injury took place a couple of weeks ago, but 238 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Sarah has chosen not to divulge what actually happened until now. 239 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: And this was very unlike her because usually she'd be 240 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: on her stories giving her followers a blow by blow. 241 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: She originally teased her audience by saying that it happened 242 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: in an embarrassing way. I mean, we were hypothesizing a 243 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago what that could have been, and 244 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: I was pretty surprised when I found out what actually happened. Yeah, 245 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: I feel like you were thinking of sex injury or something. 246 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: I just was like, oh, what could be so embarrassing? Like, well, 247 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: she's gone into what actually happened in her recent YouTube video, 248 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: and as she always does, she hooked her followers in 249 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: by saying she was going to work up the courage 250 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: throughout the vlog to explain what actually happened to her hand, 251 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: and she said that she hasn't told the story of 252 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: how she sustained this injury because she feared it would 253 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: be taken out of context and misconstrued. Knowing how the 254 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: injury occurred not to continue to tease, but I can 255 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: understand why she was so reluctant to actually share how 256 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: it happened. Well before we actually found out what caused 257 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: the injury, we were taken along to her specialist appointment 258 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: and she showed her close up of just how bad 259 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: the bruising was. She also said the first two days 260 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: of the injury were brutal, but now she's managed to 261 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: adapt and straight after leaving her appointment, she jumped on 262 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: her camera to tell her followers that thankfully she doesn't 263 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: have to have surgery on it, and it ended up 264 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: that the ligament was not detached like she feared. Sarah 265 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: also mentioned that the specialist told her that the inside 266 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: ligament was torn, but not the outside. I think Sarah 267 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: really wanted to make sure her audience knew how painful 268 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 1: this injury was and that she's not like she was 269 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: faking it. Yeah, it didn't look fun now. It wasn't 270 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: until the end of the vlog that we found out 271 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: what actually happened. So she was standing alongside Kurt in 272 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: the kitchen when she she explained that it was a 273 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: situation of bad timing. Let's have a listen to some 274 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: of what she said. 275 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: Basically, it was a situation of bad timing. Kurt was 276 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 4: annoying me or like what were you you doing? 277 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: I was laying down in bed, and I was like 278 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 3: teasing you in some way shape or for me, and 279 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 3: I went to. 280 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: Be like stop. A classic Kurt, being a black belt 281 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu. 282 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 5: He blocks everything, even if I'm like, oh, like look 283 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 5: at that house nicely, he. 284 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: Blocks all the time. 285 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 5: So anyway, his reflex, his knee blocked my hand and 286 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 5: ripped all the way back. 287 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: As you came in too, like grabbing me. I tucked 288 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: my knees up to my chest. Because that's how you 289 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: would That's how you came at me. 290 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: One one here I can't remember, but I tuck my 291 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: knees up anyways with reflex like and then you went 292 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: born and then. 293 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 5: You went ah, yeah, it really hurt. But the worst 294 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 5: part was the sound. It was like cellophane. It bent 295 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 5: all the way back and it was like cellophane crunching. 296 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 5: As soon as it happened, I was like, I. 297 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: Knew I had done something, and then you got angry 298 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: at me if it was my fault, like blocking. 299 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: Me all the time and story I love having a 300 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: protective husband, like look, block for the family, don't block 301 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: the white Okay, let. 302 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: Me just corress you. So they were essentially play fighting 303 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: in bed. Yes, it sounds like that's what's happened. Kurt 304 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: being the jiu jitsu champion that he seems to be 305 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: has blocked her arm. I can see why she held 306 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: her from telling this story and was worried it'll be 307 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: taken out of context, because you would really want to 308 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: get the description of what happened, right. You want to 309 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: be concise in telling this story. Yeah, and with the 310 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: climate of the internet, particularly TikTok, I think there is 311 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: a chance people can run with an unfair, untrue narrative, 312 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: and I think that's what would have been playing on 313 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: her mind. I'm actually surprised she didn't just come up 314 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: with a fake story, but in saying that people can 315 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: genuinely tell through a fake story, then they might have 316 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: blown her out of proportion even more when they found 317 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: out what actually happened. I think it was good. Maybe 318 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: she gave a bit of space and time to consider 319 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: how she was going to explain it, and particularly also 320 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: having Kurt on camera when she explained it was a 321 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: good move too. Do you play fight with your husband? 322 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: I want to know, Well, not like this, Like my 323 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: my husband doesn't have any martial arts skills. So I mean, 324 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: if we were in the kitchen, sometimes he might like 325 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: creep up and grab me from behind, or like tickle 326 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: me and stuff like that. But I wouldn't say we'd 327 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: play for it. What about you? I can see how 328 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: something like this could happen because I feel like sometimes 329 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: men like to get silly and like pick you up 330 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: and swing you around that sort of thing. But yeah, 331 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: just brand and play fight with you. I remember, well 332 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: when we used to have stairs in our house. I 333 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: feel like you used to like poke each other's ass 334 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: or something, if you're going up the stairs, something like that, 335 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: which could lead to someone falling down the stairs. Isn't 336 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: that just such a universal male thing for me? If 337 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: your partner walks past just to poke them, like I 338 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: would be making Kurt for really bad if I were Sarah, 339 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: particularly because this has almost derailed her fitness program. Oh, 340 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: I can imagine how annoyed she would be, because I 341 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: remember when she first broke the news about her hand, 342 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: she was like, Oh, I haven't changed one single nappy. 343 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: Kurt's been doing everything, and obviously she was like, you 344 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: could do everything now. Did he seem remorseful in the vlog? 345 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: I think I felt bad, but I don't think he 346 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: was particularly remorseful because it was an accident. She was 347 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: the only person who knew just how scared I was 348 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: that day. I didn't know if I was doing the 349 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: right thing. She didn't think I was doing the right thing. 350 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers has broken down whilst recounting the moment her 351 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: mum told her to call off her wedding to ex 352 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: husband Justin McKean. The former Miss Universe contestant, revealed there 353 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: was an incident a few days before the wedding that 354 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: crossed her boundaries. So if this was an absolutely fascinating interview. 355 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: I've heard Olivia interviewed quite a number of times on 356 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: a podcast, but this was unlike I'd heard her before. Yeah, 357 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: she was incredibly candid in this interview. It took place 358 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: on the Inherited podcast, which interestingly is a podcast that's 359 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: run by her friends Michelle Andrews and Zara McDonald. Yeh, 360 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: but they don't conduct the interviews. They have Ruby Hall there, 361 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: who does a great job. But I wonder if it 362 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: would have even been taken that next level if it 363 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: had been Michelle and Zara having that friendship there. Then again, 364 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: I feel like it was almost good having Ruby who 365 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: was a bit of an outsider, because I feel like 366 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: Michelle and Zara because they would have been probably aware 367 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: of these stories, you know, when it's sometimes awkwuld when 368 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: someone's having to explain something that they've already explained to 369 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: their friends before, or maybe they know too much that 370 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: they wouldn't provide the extra context that listeners don't know. 371 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: I mean, Michelle and Zara were main characters and one 372 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: of the biggest stories that Olivia spoke about which was 373 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: the sexual assault case that she ended up taking to court. 374 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: Michelle and Zara were witnesses to that assault, and that's 375 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: why I think it's good that there was someone who 376 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: was a bit removed. Interviewing her now, Olivia was asked 377 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: when she started seeing red flags in this relationship. She 378 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: said it happened as early as six months in, but 379 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: she chose to ignore the signs, and she went on 380 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: to describe herself as being a serial girlfriend, where she 381 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: had a history of dating people who weren't right for her. 382 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: It was so interesting hearing her speak about the way 383 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: she sees herself because I know previously in interviews she's 384 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: spoken about how she was a bit of a dorky 385 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: kid growing up and was really surprised that she was 386 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: essentially headhunted for modeling. It is easy to forget that 387 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: that was her back. I mean, you look at her now. 388 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: She is such a stunning person inside and out. She 389 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: comes across as very confident on her social media. So 390 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: for someone like her to be saying, oh, you know, 391 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: I used to date these loser guys because I wasn't 392 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: very confident. I think there were so many listeners that 393 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: could relate to it. I mean I could relate to it. 394 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I used to do that in my 395 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: twenties as well. Yeah. Well, she said that because she 396 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: was such an insecure teenager, it then sort of bled 397 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: into her twenties and she essentially dated men for validation. Now, 398 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: when she met Justin, she said that she felt like 399 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: he had his shit together because he was five years 400 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: older than her, and she said it was the first 401 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: mature relationship she'd been in, and things moved really quickly. 402 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: So they moved in together, they got a dog together, 403 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: and by the time that those red flags started appearing, 404 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: she said she already felt like she had too much 405 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: to lose. And she said, maybe to people who don't 406 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: own dogs it would sound ridiculous, but the thought of 407 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: her leaving her dog behind was really tough. If things 408 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: if they broke up. And I think that's something a 409 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: lot of us go through and our twenties where we think, oh, 410 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm so old, I'm twenty five. I remember you having 411 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: a free kat when we turn twenty five. There's no 412 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: way I could find someone else and get into a 413 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: new relationship and have to go through all of this again. 414 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: I might just settle and stick around. Yeah, I think 415 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: you start to think you've invested too much time and 416 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: there's too much to lose. I was surprised to hear 417 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: that they only got engaged after eighteen months together, so 418 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: you can see why she would have been feeling that way. 419 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: Even with the profile that she has, it would have 420 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: probably felt embarrassing to call off the engagement. Yeah, and 421 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: I mean they intended to get married a lot earlier 422 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: than they did. COVID got in the way of that, 423 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: so their engagement was a number of years. But it 424 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: just seems like Olivia was just in way too deep, 425 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: particularly with all the wedding planning and posting about it 426 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: all on social media. I mean, she has spoken previously 427 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: about how there was so much pressure on her to 428 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: actually go through the wedding because there was so much 429 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: content out there about it. Well, there were so many 430 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: brand deals happening. I mean, even her proposal seemed to 431 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: be a branding opportunity because at the time she had 432 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: a deal with Exchange Diamonds, and her engagement ring ended 433 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: up being called the Olivia Molly Ring. Now, this is 434 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: an important point to bring up because on the Inherited podcast, 435 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: every guest is asked to bring in a relic to discuss, 436 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: and she ended up bringing in her grandmother's ring that 437 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: her mum, Nikki, had handed down to her on her 438 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: wedding day, and she said that her mum wore this 439 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: ring every day on her pinky finger, and a day 440 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: before the wedding, Olivia said she remembered admiring the ring 441 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: and wishing her engagement ring looked like it, And for me, 442 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, So she didn't even 443 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: like the ring at the time, I was obsessed with 444 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: her engagement ring. I was so jealous of it. Yeah, 445 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: that surprised me as well. It's interesting that she made 446 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: those comments post breakup, like there's no way she could 447 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: have said she didn't like the ring before now. Olivia 448 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: said that when she received her grandmother's ring on her 449 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: wedding day, it was a very symbolic moment because her 450 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: mom was the only person who knew how scared she 451 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: was that day. And this was the most fascinating part 452 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: of the interview. We got a blow by blow of 453 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: the events that unfolded in the lead up to the wedding. 454 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: So Olivia's mum, Nicki, had flown over from Adelaide to 455 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: be there for the whole week and a few nights 456 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: before the wedding. Olivia says something happened that really crossed 457 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: boundaries for her and her mum was there when it happened. 458 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: When I heard that, my brain started racing, going through 459 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: all the different possible scenarios, and none of them were good. 460 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: To me, it sounded like she was hinting at cheating. 461 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: That's the interpretation I got from that. But you had 462 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: a different theory. Yeah, my brain went a bit darker. Actually, 463 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: seem that's not the case. Mine didn't actually go there. 464 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: I just thought potentially cheating. But anyway, the following day, 465 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: Nicki said to Olivia, look, we can call the wedding off. 466 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: You don't have to go ahead with it. And this 467 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: was on the Thursday, so it was two days out 468 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: from the wedding, and Olivia said that on that Thursday 469 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: she was set to pick up her wedding dress, and 470 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: she'd already started receiving messages from friends who had landed 471 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: in Melbourne from inter state, and she was also set 472 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: to drive to the accommodation with her bridesmaid, So she 473 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: was in such a predicament. Yeah, it's crazy to me 474 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: because Olivia said she didn't tell her bridesmaids or any 475 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: of her friends what had gone down a couple of 476 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: days earlier because she didn't want them to feel like 477 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: they had to fake it for the wedding, even though 478 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: she was having to. Yeah, and she said she spent 479 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: the night before in bed crying about it and trying 480 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: to work out what she possibly could say in her 481 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: vows because Justin had made all of these promises to her, 482 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: but she wasn't sure if he was actually going to 483 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: live up to those promises. I really wish that we 484 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: had the wedding vows from Idcinema. They were the videographers 485 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: who filmed this wedding. We only got the Olivia edit. 486 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: We didn't get the full edit because they got divorced 487 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: by them. But I would have been fascinated to know 488 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: what she had said in them. It would be so 489 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: hard to come up with something glowing about your partner 490 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: when you've just found out that they've done something terrible. 491 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: It really is mind blowing, because I remember when the 492 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: photos started coming out of Olivia's wedding and just being 493 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: absolutely blown away how stunning she looked, and how perfect 494 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: they looked together, and I was like, Oh, that just 495 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: looks like the most magical day. They had that fun 496 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: dance and she didn't look like she had a care 497 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: in the world to know what actually was going on 498 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Just shows how fake social media can 499 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: be and it's actually going on in people's life. I 500 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: just felt for Olivia and the predicament that she was in, 501 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: because imagine finding something out that's so unforgivable that your 502 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: partner's done only a couple of days beforehand. Because for her, 503 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: she said she wasn't worried about losing money from the wedding. 504 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: It was more the fact that her family and friends 505 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: had paid money to come over and all be there. 506 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: It would have been incredibly embarrassing as well to call 507 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: it off that close, and there would have been so 508 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: much speculation in the press as to why she had 509 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: done so. Yeah, I found it really interesting when she 510 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: spoke about having this hope that things would change once 511 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: they became husband and wife. How in her head suddenly 512 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: her being Justin's wife would make a difference, which she 513 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: said clearly it didn't because they ended up breaking up 514 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: after seven months. I love the fact that Olivia's mum 515 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: actually pulled justin aside before the wedding and told him 516 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: to pull his head in this, Nikki, sounds like a legend. See. 517 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how her mum was able to actually 518 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: attend the wedding. I know if it was our mom, 519 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: she wouldn't be able to put on a happy face. 520 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean, she probably didn't put on a happy face, 521 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: but she knew that her daughter needed her there for support. 522 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I saw this thing recently on social 523 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: media where this bride found out that she had been 524 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: cheated on. I think it was like a couple of 525 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: days before the wedding and she was like, I can't 526 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: pull the pinus too close to the wedding, So she 527 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: went along with the whole day, got ready, had her 528 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: bridesmaids there, and then when it got to the ceremony 529 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: when she was reading out her vows, instead of reading 530 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: out vows, she read out the text messages that she 531 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: had found between her partner and this other woman Wow, 532 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: and exposed him in front of everyone. I was like, Wow, 533 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 1: that is incredible, But I don't think I could do that. 534 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: But it's pretty remarkable, is that. I mean, I think 535 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: that's money well spent, Like instead of wasting the money 536 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: on the wedding like that was epic. Now getting back 537 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: to Olivia, she said that she was depressed for the 538 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: whole seven months of this marriage and her body was 539 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: breaking down with the stress. I actually remember her documenting 540 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: her skin and her gut issues a lot during that time, 541 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: and it kind of seemed like it came out of nowhere, 542 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: which I mean, I remember when she opened up about 543 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: the fact that she was doing fertility treatments. I was like, Oh, 544 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: that must have been it, like her hormones must have 545 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: been going out of control. But it turns out Justin 546 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: was the problem, like he was causing her so much stress. Well, 547 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: she said that at the time, she convinced herself that 548 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: she was the problem, and she claimed that Justin would 549 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: reiterate that story to her. That made me mad when 550 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: I heard that, And she said it wasn't until the 551 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: end of that seven months that she started realizing, Hey, 552 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm actually not the problem. He is the problem, and 553 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to be in this relationship where I'm 554 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: begging someone to show up for me all the time. 555 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: I love. It got to the point where she's like, Okay, 556 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to pull the trigger on this relationship and 557 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: call my sis, my sister, who is completely honest and 558 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: takes no bullshit. Well, also who won't let you reneg 559 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: on it as well. I feel like once you open 560 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: up and finally tell someone in your life, like your 561 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: sister or your friends, it becomes a lot more real 562 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: and then you become a lot more accountable to the situation. Yeah, 563 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: and it's so great to hear that she had so 564 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: much support from her friends and family that were like, Okay, 565 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: how are we going to do this? Let's get you 566 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: out of this situation. When she made this phone call 567 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: in two days time, she was supposed to have a 568 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: fertility procedure and her sister said to her, well, Olivia, 569 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: how would you feel if you found out you were 570 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: pregnant right now? And she said her first thought would 571 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: be terrified, and her sister said, well, that's your auntswer there. 572 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: So with that, she ended up calling her best friends 573 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: and her mum and they said, we'll support you. We 574 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: need a game plan of how you're going to get 575 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: out of this. I know Olivia has shared that story before, 576 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: closer to when she first broke up with Justin on 577 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: the Life on Cut podcast, And I think also on 578 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: Happy Out with Lucy and Nicki. But it was interesting 579 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: to hear that story retold with the context that we 580 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: now know that Justin McKean went on to have a 581 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: baby with Tarny Lison, and it's become very apparent that 582 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: Tarni and Justin are no longer together. And every time 583 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: I see Tarny post ah, my heart breaks for her 584 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: because she's clearly doing everything for that child. And I 585 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: think the reason that Olivia feels comfortable to open up 586 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: about all of this now is one because there's been 587 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: a bit of time and space, but two because I 588 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: think the public is now more aware of what she 589 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: was going through. As we have touched on many times 590 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: on this podcast. Justin McKean recently has been accused of 591 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: stealing half a million dollars from his former employer, so 592 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: I think that she probably feels like people know what 593 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: she's putting down now when she speaks about him. I 594 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: feel like Olivia must be so grateful that all of 595 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: that information has come out and it's sort of validated 596 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: parts of her story that she has bravely shared thus far. 597 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm just still really confused as to why she didn't 598 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: decide to open up about this on her own podcast. 599 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: Is clear that she's very passionate about the show and 600 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: growing it, and this would have been the perfect episode 601 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: to do so. Because so many media publications have picked 602 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: up on this story and they keep referencing the fact 603 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: that it was on the Inherited podcast. I wonder if 604 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: it's a case of she didn't really plan to be 605 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: so open and she just got really comfortable. I mean, 606 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: at the start of the episode she spoke about being 607 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: an oversharer and being a little bit nervous to do 608 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: the interview, even though she conducts interviews on her own podcast. 609 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: Maybe she felt that being interviewed was a more appropriate 610 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: way to open up about it rather than doing a 611 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: monologue on her podcast. Well, I suppose if it had 612 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: come out on her podcast, she could have been accused 613 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: of trying to monetize a traumatic event in her life. 614 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: It just made me like Olivia even more. I've always 615 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: been a big fan of Olivia Rogers, and I think 616 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: that she has incredible bravery going through something like this 617 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: and deciding to leave. And also, I mean we touched 618 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: on it a little bit earlier, but her talking through 619 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: the court case when she was sexually assaulted at a 620 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: Melbourne pub and interestingly, she was there celebrating Zara McDonald's 621 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: birthday and actually reminded me of when Taylor Swift sued 622 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: that guy that groped her a meet and greet for 623 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: a dollar. Yeah, and Olivia was saying, Oh, people were like, oh, 624 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: he only pinched you on the bottom. I'm like, thank 625 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: goodness that she took a stance and actually took this 626 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: dickhead to court because he ended up having a history 627 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: of this type of behavior. And I'm just so happy 628 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: for her that she is in this fantastic relationship with Hugo, 629 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: who we have spoken about on the podcast. She was 630 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: asked whether she would want to get married again one day, 631 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: and she said that she would like to. I'm here 632 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: for the wedding content and she said though that she's 633 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: realized that marriage isn't everything, but for her, she knows 634 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to take that away from Hugo. It's 635 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: something that he would like to do. Look, I know 636 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: that we usually do our predictions at the end of 637 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: this year, but one of mine will be that she 638 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: gets engaged. Maybe that's why she's throwing out hints about 639 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: the engagement ring. Maybe she's thinking, look, okay, Hugo, I 640 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: like the look and style of my grandmother's ring now 641 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: and we replicate this very clever. He's very very clever. Well, 642 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: I think that is all we have time for today. 643 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us this episode. If 644 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: you have enjoyed it, could you please make sure you 645 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: are subscribed on Apple podcast and also Spotify and if 646 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: you want to hear more content from us, we drop 647 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: a subscriber only episode every Thursday on Outspoken Plus. 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