WEBVTT - JOHN & EMMA - AUSTRALIAN IDOL - CHANNEL SEVEN

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>The podcast last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Thereby, Hey everyone, welcome back to TV Reload. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank you for tuning into today's episode, where we're

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<v Speaker 1>joined by the latest contestants eliminated from Australian Idol's Top eight.

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<v Speaker 1>It is John and Emma. With the competition heating up,

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<v Speaker 1>their departure proves that Astrayan Idol is truly anyone's game

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five. If Emma and John can be

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<v Speaker 1>sent home, no one is safe. That's why the judges

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<v Speaker 1>are urging viewers to vote. Every single vote matters when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to keeping your favorite in the competition. Emma's

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<v Speaker 1>elimination is a real shocker if you ask me, considering

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<v Speaker 1>the powerhouse vocals that she has brought to the stage

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<v Speaker 1>this season and John this season's undeniable QT patuity. He

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<v Speaker 1>has learned that charm alone isn't enough to secure us

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<v Speaker 1>spot in the finals. In this episode, John opens up

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<v Speaker 1>about his relationship with the judges for revealing which one

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<v Speaker 1>is his favorite. Emma shares a rare insight into her

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<v Speaker 1>unique voice ability and why it sounds so different when

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<v Speaker 1>she sings compared to when she is talking. We dive

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<v Speaker 1>into the behind the scenes of styling, who picks the outfits,

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<v Speaker 1>how the songs are chosen for the group performances. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>we get John's reaction to his Instagram dms, Emma's plans

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<v Speaker 1>when she returns home to Canberra, and a bold prediction

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<v Speaker 1>I make about John's future, which he seems pretty excited about.

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<v Speaker 1>There's actually so much to cover, with plenty of exclusive

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<v Speaker 1>insights and behind the scenes revelations, So sit back and

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<v Speaker 1>relax and join us as we break down the world

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<v Speaker 1>of Australian Idol, which returns this Sunday night. Hi John, congratulation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>What an experience, man, It's been a massive ride. Best

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<v Speaker 2>way to explain. It's like a bit of a roller coaster.

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<v Speaker 2>You go through all the eyes, go all through the

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<v Speaker 2>whole lows and you know, that's what it's all about,

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing the whole thing so so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Put your hands in the air and try not to spue.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what roller coasters.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you had such a memorable time on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people will remember you for this season. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also felt like you were a bit of an

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<v Speaker 1>underdog or you had like an underdog status throughout your

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<v Speaker 1>time on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you feel that Definitely, I felt like a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of an underdog. It was hard because the whole

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<v Speaker 2>time I was trying to work out, you know, who

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of was the whole time, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>so Australia lots of different things at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was hard to really bring out who I really was.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, like, I've just got so

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<v Speaker 2>much to give. Yes, I'm off the show and that's

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<v Speaker 2>a shame, but the show has been so good and

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<v Speaker 2>it's taught me so many different things that I can

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<v Speaker 2>now put into the future in my career now, how

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 4>And how can I love when I'm a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like for you, when I started watching you

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, I thought of Johnny Raffo, beautiful artist.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he went on to do things like Home and

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<v Speaker 1>Away and presenting and all this other stuff. I feel like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>early days, but that's kind of where I see you. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>the music is amazing, and you have an incredible voice

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<v Speaker 1>and an incredible presence, but I think you're marketable way

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<v Speaker 1>beyond all of that, Like this.

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<v Speaker 2>This whole industry that I'm in right now is very

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<v Speaker 2>much a very portfolio industry, so you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of different things. The best person that

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<v Speaker 2>I can think of as well is Richey Lee. She's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>We got out at the exact same time in the competition.

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<v Speaker 3>She got to top eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to top aight. And the thing that Ricky

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<v Speaker 2>Lee is doing right now is incredible, man, Like, she's

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<v Speaker 2>got her own radio show, amazing like on and she's

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<v Speaker 2>also a singer as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Does this mean that you in ten years time could

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<v Speaker 1>be home sting Australian idol. I mean that's the trajectory

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<v Speaker 1>that Ricky Lee Coolter went on.

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually talking to some of the people there

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<v Speaker 2>and they were like, you know what, don't you be

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<v Speaker 2>such a cool hode.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that Scott tweeting watch out you might

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<v Speaker 1>have his job.

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<v Speaker 3>Exagree.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, who knows what's going to happen in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm always open to a new opportunities and trying

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<v Speaker 2>new stuff and giving a red hot crack and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got lots to give and still very young in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Still in some ways you're sort of because you're cute

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<v Speaker 1>as a button and you kind of pick up all

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<v Speaker 1>of the girls following you on. Does that add a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of extra pressure or does it make it

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<v Speaker 1>a bit weirder because there's other people in the competition

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<v Speaker 1>that don't have that. You know, no one's going yeah Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>all these women are screaming at you.

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<v Speaker 5>Where for you?

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<v Speaker 1>I wondered what that does to you? Does it add

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<v Speaker 1>an extra pressure?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I don't know. It's like, let's say I'm performing

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<v Speaker 2>mysel getting ready on stage right, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the whole the whole production teams say all right,

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<v Speaker 2>are we ready already? And in that moment, you should

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<v Speaker 2>be locking in. You should be really thinking about your

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<v Speaker 2>about your lyrics, thinking about how you going to deliver it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then at the same time, you've got the people in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the mosh pit, you know, really looking at you.

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<v Speaker 6>All the girls are looking at you, and you don't

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<v Speaker 6>know what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I find it really tricky sometimes because I should

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<v Speaker 2>be locking in, but at the same time they're my fans,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my target audience. I kind of need to let that,

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<v Speaker 2>let that in as well. So it's definitely tricky, But

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, it's awesome. You can't know who

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I'm that young guy at the moment, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just that different target audience that some people can't reach,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can go into that. But it's very hard, man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like there's a lot of a lot of d

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<v Speaker 2>ms on Instagram and there's a lot of all that

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<v Speaker 2>type of stuff, and it gets a bit crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you right on Instagram? Are you putting the phone? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I get back to a couple of literally some

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<v Speaker 2>of them just say, man, congrats, that was amazing, blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. Then there's some of them that they send

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<v Speaker 2>they're full therefore, ready made through and say how good

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<v Speaker 2>it will be together. Sometimes I feel really bad when

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<v Speaker 2>I see a monts to paragraph and I'm like, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no way that took time. That's right that, So of

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<v Speaker 2>course I'll reply to that and just knowing you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to get back to as many people as

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<v Speaker 2>I can, and with the pressure of the show, it

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<v Speaker 2>gets really hard. But I think in the next couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days it.

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<v Speaker 1>To them and send them a message down to the

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<v Speaker 1>coffee shop and just start reading their messages and sending

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<v Speaker 1>them back, you know, so we can confirm that you're

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<v Speaker 1>still single. So that's I feel like I'm adding fire,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm adding wood to the fire here at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still man right, I'm still okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, good luck with that, yeers. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>long that will lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I picked up on some similar stylings each week. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that something you wear in real life? I mean, who

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<v Speaker 1>picks the clothes for these who picks the clothes each week? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Basically we have a massive wardrobe team which is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>And basically every week they have a look at what

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<v Speaker 2>song you're singing and then they choose They work with

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<v Speaker 2>the creative team and they choose a set, and then

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<v Speaker 2>off the set they would choose the outfit and basically

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<v Speaker 2>they're just going it off my character. It might not

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<v Speaker 2>be stuff I wear in everyday life, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>more just to suit my character young gymnast that is

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<v Speaker 2>a heart throb. And they do it to all the

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<v Speaker 2>contestants as well and try to based off the character.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not a bad thing. And basically I went

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<v Speaker 2>into this whole process of Australian idols to see what

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<v Speaker 2>industry wants and what industry thinks about me as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and just trying to get my head around who I

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<v Speaker 2>am and because you know, I'm still working that stuff out.

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<v Speaker 2>And my mum called me last night and she says,

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<v Speaker 2>good job, John, blah blah blah. You know that was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>But she says, do not leave Sydney or do not

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<v Speaker 2>leave Idol without buying all those clothes because they are

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<v Speaker 2>great clothes. And I'm like, you know what, mum, You're

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<v Speaker 2>so right?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we going to say? She was asking whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not you know you get them for free? Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>need to speak to.

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<v Speaker 2>What I think we get a discount. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>get a discount which is great, which is amazing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I won't be taking half the cause.

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<v Speaker 1>At home, amazing. I think that's great. W your wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the group performances are some of my favorites,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've never asked anyone on the show, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you get to choose? Do you get any saying who

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<v Speaker 1>gets the lyrics? Because some of these songs are iconic,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Beatles, and I would be like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my voice suits this lyric. I want to sing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you all get to have conversation that's quite open

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<v Speaker 1>or do they just say your lyric number three.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically that's what it is in a nutshell, but basically

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<v Speaker 2>what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole process of singing.

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<v Speaker 2>A song on a TV show is massive. But then

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<v Speaker 2>also it's hard because for the top twelve song, let's

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<v Speaker 2>say that the song was listen to the music, great song.

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<v Speaker 2>But what happened was how we recorded that was that

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<v Speaker 2>after the first night, those four people that got through,

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<v Speaker 2>they will then go into the studio the next day

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<v Speaker 2>and then they record a couple of lines and basically

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<v Speaker 2>the music team are choosing what lyrics you're seeing. And

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<v Speaker 2>the good thing about Australian I was that they always

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<v Speaker 2>try to know give the best, you know, do what's right,

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<v Speaker 2>and they do they tail it to the right person.

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<v Speaker 2>So for example, like that that live around when we

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<v Speaker 2>last night where we did that what do you call

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<v Speaker 2>that Beatles song? You know Jake starting it off with

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<v Speaker 2>that nice country kick to it. It was a great start.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, my line with Marshall got to

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<v Speaker 2>be good looking because you're so hard to say like

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<v Speaker 2>they probably thought about that, said yeah, Johnny's.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect, Yeah it's exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's very much up to the music team. But

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time we all work together and we

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<v Speaker 2>all kind of make it our own, but they do

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<v Speaker 2>give us the lyrics, but they're also super chill about

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<v Speaker 2>making it our own, which is nice, not being so

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<v Speaker 2>driven on the melody, which is good. So yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>kind of use what we've got.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a celebrity sort of lifestyle that you lead when

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<v Speaker 1>you do one of these shows. And there was an

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<v Speaker 1>article on The Woman's Day. I think about you sort

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<v Speaker 1>of being sick at one point and worrying about whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not you'll continue in the competition, but I noticed

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<v Speaker 1>every week you seem to look fitter and healthier and better.

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<v Speaker 1>The question I have for you is are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain this sort of new celebrity lifestyle of better sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, better food, looking after yourself? Like is there

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<v Speaker 1>a change that comes with having an opportunity like this?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, the whole health side and the physical health but

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<v Speaker 2>also the mental health side is a serious heart about

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<v Speaker 2>being musician, and you know, this whole experience. Definitely in

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of weeks, it really shows you that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're on tour, this is what it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like, you're going to be performing most nights.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to be health and ready, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be healthy and ready, and so you know, basically I

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<v Speaker 2>was just, you know, I got into the competition. I

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<v Speaker 2>was I was young, I was eighteen. I was still

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't really too focused on my health and all that stuff, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That you know, honestly, I was in a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, just a normal thing, right, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I got through it just being my normal self. And

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<v Speaker 2>then it got to that top thirty week, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like the first week because we did three challenges

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<v Speaker 2>in one week and you're singing every night, you're learning

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<v Speaker 2>songs the night before that was a really tough week.

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<v Speaker 2>And my whole health system went like, man, like that's crazy, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of looks you got to this peak, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, just it turned around.

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<v Speaker 1>Look like you to a point where yeah, you were

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<v Speaker 1>exhausted by the whole situation, and then from there on

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<v Speaker 1>in you just got your skin looked better, Yeah, your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes look better. Yeah, just pulled it like, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like whatever was happening was right for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just feel like definitely coming over being away

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<v Speaker 2>from family was really hard and I was really struggling

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<v Speaker 2>with that. But Basically, it's the experience that you get

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<v Speaker 2>out of it and you get used to it. You

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<v Speaker 2>get used to going to bed at the right time,

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<v Speaker 2>you get you feel like eating the right stuff. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think for me as well, you know, just going

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<v Speaker 2>on walks every day. I went to a park every

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<v Speaker 2>single day. I had this pink footy that I used

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<v Speaker 2>to kick up and down the corridor, all that little stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>just to make sure that at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>you always need to make sure that you're okay and

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<v Speaker 2>that you look after yourself. And I made that a

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<v Speaker 2>big focus this trip, and it really worked in my favor,

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<v Speaker 2>which was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really wanted you tom that up. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be really beneficial for you because, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to think so much, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in TV and in and in music, I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that I have been around the TV industry for

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time, and the people that succeed are

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<v Speaker 1>the people that have a really healthy life balance. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so important, you know, it's so important. The other thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was going through the comments, I really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask you questions that I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>fans wanted to know and what I kept sure winning

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<v Speaker 1>again and again was about your song choices and who

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be as an artist. I noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>you'd said that you were like Justin Bieber, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of artist I want to be. But then we

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<v Speaker 1>hear Kyle Sandalan say that probably wasn't the right song

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<v Speaker 1>for you. And if you look at the history of

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<v Speaker 1>songs that you sung, you know that catalog has got

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<v Speaker 1>spice girls, it's got Robin, It's got all of these

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<v Speaker 1>different people. Yeah, you know, y, coming out of the competition,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like you are closer to knowing what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an artist you want to be?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I went into this competition just to give it a shot,

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<v Speaker 2>see what this is all about. And I didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>know who I was in what the artist was. You

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<v Speaker 2>had a voice on you that has something to give,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just wanted someone to say something in me,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what the judges. And then basically every single

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<v Speaker 2>round it felt like I was doing something a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different every single time, which is good but also

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<v Speaker 2>bad in the same way because people were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I connected as do which is crazy for starters.

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<v Speaker 1>You said you wanted somebody to see something in you.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to know not only did those judges

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<v Speaker 1>see that and put you forward and really helps you

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<v Speaker 1>get into the top twelve, but Australia has seen something

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<v Speaker 1>in you. There's something unique and amazing about you that

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<v Speaker 1>almost stands out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the other people in the top twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>you've really Yeah, not only have you hit the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you've had a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, thank you so much. I appreciate that. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, like I think doing the Justin Babers song,

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<v Speaker 2>it was always good. I just want to show Australia

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<v Speaker 2>something else that I can do, something a little bit different,

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<v Speaker 2>and you definitely put a bit of a spin on things.

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<v Speaker 2>But then really roping it back with the Coln Scott

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<v Speaker 2>at the end.

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<v Speaker 7>Swim every super be weird fix word up, oh it's visa.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was being myself a really strong

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<v Speaker 2>Australia like who I am, and the judges agreed, They're like, yes, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be who you are, bro. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was really happy with that because I really wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>come off this show in a good way and in

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<v Speaker 2>a positive way and making sure that you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was happy with myself and I was I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I landed that one.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you'd be hard on your sleeve, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of the connect I think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people sitting at home who would love to have

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to try and improve something to themselves. And

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<v Speaker 1>because you were hard on your sleeve, we as an

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<v Speaker 1>audience come on that journey with you. Yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 1>route f Yeah. I wanted to say about Sandy Lance.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people talk about his comments and being

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<v Speaker 1>that they can sometimes be quite harsh. I really like

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle and I know him as a person, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see it that way. But do you think, being

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<v Speaker 1>a young person on television that it's easy to see

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of criticism from someone like him? And do

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<v Speaker 1>they prepare you? Do they say just so you know

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<v Speaker 1>once the comments go to Kyle, he might say something crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how do they know?

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<v Speaker 2>Basically how I said the judges is that Amy Shark.

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<v Speaker 2>She's in it right now. She's really pumping out some

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff. She's gigging at the moment. She's this this

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<v Speaker 2>Brian person in present time. Martha has just been amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>She's had a massive career. She understands how the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>where she's got the experience behind her. And then how

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<v Speaker 2>I see Kyle is that yes he's not in the

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<v Speaker 2>music industry, but he sees what sells right. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>big business man. He sees this stuff, and yes he's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit harsh, but he knows what's good what's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a bit like a Simon Cowell. Right, Yeah, think

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<v Speaker 2>about Coyle's My best mate says is that Carl has

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<v Speaker 2>his personality and sometimes it goes a bit, a bit haywire.

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<v Speaker 2>But my best mate, he says, Kyle says the right

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<v Speaker 2>thing the wrong way. And look, I agree with that term.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, like I'm taking feedback on board,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're trying to do the best thing for me,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it goes off in a really bad way,

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<v Speaker 2>and people will see in a really bad way. I

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<v Speaker 2>honestly don't. I take it as you know, that constructive

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<v Speaker 2>criticism and see the good in it. It doesn't really

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<v Speaker 2>bother me as some people might think. And I really

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<v Speaker 2>respect Carl. I think he's had it hard from a

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<v Speaker 2>very young age and the thing he's been able to

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<v Speaker 2>do is, you know, is make it right. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>done that and really look up to Cale. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I answered one of the questions in an

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<v Speaker 2>in the interview and like who's your favorite judge? I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon it has to be Cole Man like he's

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<v Speaker 2>cool man, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I give him respect absolutely. You know, I've finished the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast every time asking a question of something behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've run out of time, so I have to

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<v Speaker 1>try and sort of make it easier for you when

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle says something like this stage, maybe a behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes is whether or not you have access to Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>all the other judges, Like once the cameras go down,

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<v Speaker 1>do they come up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Offer you some more clarity, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, basically what happens is cameras go down, we're all

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<v Speaker 2>out the stage, and the judges actually come through and

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<v Speaker 2>they actually talk to us as a person, which is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if I should be saying this.

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<v Speaker 2>I wants me to say this, but basically he came

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<v Speaker 2>up to me after that just a Beba performance and

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<v Speaker 2>he said, you know what, man, that was amazing. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>you did such a good job. And he said, you

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<v Speaker 2>know the comment that I made the girls like the

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<v Speaker 2>Martian Amy hated me saying it, but he says, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you did such a great job and you should be

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<v Speaker 2>really proud of yourself. He says, you know, we had

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<v Speaker 2>to put on a TV show here, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>you did amazing. And I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>that's massive coming from Colin. I wouldn't say it's an apology,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's looking out for me, saying, man, you're great

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<v Speaker 2>and all that. So that's great and I really got

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<v Speaker 2>an awesome connection there. So we do get to meet

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<v Speaker 2>the judges in person, which is nice. Yeah, it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I am in your audience, my friend. Like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people in Australia, I can't wait to see

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<v Speaker 1>how you take this. I think thing the sky is

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<v Speaker 1>the limit. There's plenty of opportunities out there. Please look

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<v Speaker 1>after yourself and have will have enjoyed the ride, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, like enjoy the.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just starting now, man, and it's been amazing and

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<v Speaker 2>talking to you guys has been amazing. So thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing, amazing, all right, you enjoy chatting to the media.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. See you mate, Sea, Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much.

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<v Speaker 1>What a fabulous chat with John some great insights there.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we will unpack the Australian Idol journey with Emma,

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<v Speaker 1>who I'm sure has her own tales to tell from

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<v Speaker 1>her time on the show. Hi am, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I love, how are you going?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing really well. You have the most incredible voice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to say to you, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest shock of the season for me so far. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I was talking to a lot of people this

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<v Speaker 1>morning about it, and people feel very disappointed that you've

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<v Speaker 1>come out of the show. It must be amazing to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of have this kind of response from people because

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<v Speaker 1>people are saying you're the Ricky Lee of this season.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I thank you so much. First of all, I

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<v Speaker 6>really appreciate it. It it's encouraging definitely. People I have

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<v Speaker 6>had a lot of people saying that that the career

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<v Speaker 6>she went on to have a lot of people have

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<v Speaker 6>been just making that comparison, which I think is really cool.

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<v Speaker 6>It's motivating, I think because I've seen obviously been alongside

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<v Speaker 6>Ricky like while on the show, Like it's motivating to

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<v Speaker 6>see somebody that's done it and come out of the

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<v Speaker 6>show and made a career out of it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it's definitely something to look forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess hopefully when did you realize that you had

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<v Speaker 1>this voice? Because to me, your voice is sort of otherworldly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of like a voice in disguise, because when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking, you don't necessarily hear that sound, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you start singing, it's like Amy Winehouse or there's a

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<v Speaker 1>gravitas to it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's really interesting because people say that as well.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess, like my speaking voice is quite different to

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<v Speaker 6>my singing voice, and I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 6>were sort of like, what's going on, Like is this

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<v Speaker 6>her voice?

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there is a lot of those sort of

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<v Speaker 6>old school influences in it, and like my tone is

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<v Speaker 6>quite unique, and I think it's definitely developed over the years,

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<v Speaker 6>like when I was a kid. Obviously, I've done music

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<v Speaker 6>for a long time, so I think just with age,

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<v Speaker 6>I guess my voice changed then. I think that sort

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<v Speaker 6>of grit developed over time. And I think also like

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<v Speaker 6>as I discovered my voice, I would say like as

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<v Speaker 6>I sort of exported a bit and actually like honing

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<v Speaker 6>my craft, my voice just sort of developed into that tone.

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<v Speaker 6>And so I guess it's just probably gonna do that

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<v Speaker 6>with age. I guess like it'd be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 6>I guess what it sounds like down the track sort

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<v Speaker 6>of thing, because I think it'll sort of just keep

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<v Speaker 6>keep developing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it will. I think I really do

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<v Speaker 1>think it will. That answers my question. You didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>one day hear that voice come out and you were like, WHOA, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I think it's always been that like soul

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<v Speaker 6>to it, like the I always remember as a kid,

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<v Speaker 6>people when I was a king would sort of go, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>there's just like it's something different, like you sort of

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<v Speaker 6>have that soul in your voice, or there's something about

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<v Speaker 6>your voices what people like used to always sort of yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>like I always so, I'm a bit of an old soul.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think there's just so much erris ind I

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<v Speaker 6>would say in my voice, it's like the word I

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<v Speaker 6>always sort of use for it, Like it just sounds

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<v Speaker 6>like there's so many influences that have gone into it,

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<v Speaker 6>which I think is why people are always like, who

0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:24.520
<v Speaker 6>does she sound like like she reminds me of this person?

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<v Speaker 6>Or if she reminds me of this person, which is

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<v Speaker 6>really cool?

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<v Speaker 7>You well.

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<v Speaker 5>Among the fields, boy, you jealous that we all, which

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<v Speaker 5>is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a sound though, that that's very signature to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've one of my friends is Natalie Bassingthwaite, and

0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.479
<v Speaker 1>she has a sound that so when she covers, if

0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.960
<v Speaker 1>she's doing a Whitney song, you know that that is

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<v Speaker 1>a signature Beast song. And with your voice, you're very

0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:09.399
<v Speaker 1>similar because if you look at the beg Cyndi Lauper,

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<v Speaker 1>Shania Twain, the Pretender's goals like these are all sort

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, eighties and nineties classics songs, but every

0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:19.479
<v Speaker 1>time you sung them, you're like, oh no, I can

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<v Speaker 1>hear Emma in that. That's her signago sound, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what you need as an artist to not just be

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<v Speaker 1>a cruise ship singer.

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<v Speaker 3>Important.

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<v Speaker 6>That's something that I'm passionate about, I guess is being distinctive,

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<v Speaker 6>like I never want to. I think just as a person,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm quite sort of I love the concept of being

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<v Speaker 6>unique and offering something different.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think because obviously the industry is huge.

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<v Speaker 6>Like there's just so many, so many amazing artists, and

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<v Speaker 6>so you have to really stand out, like you have

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<v Speaker 6>to bring something different. And I think it's great that

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<v Speaker 6>my voice has sort of that distinctive sound like it

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:57.840
<v Speaker 6>gives me, I guess, the opportunity to be unique and

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<v Speaker 6>bring something different and a different sound.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. I mean, the one thing I did think of

0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 1>was old Made Hamburger. They kept calling him out his

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<v Speaker 1>eighties songs, where I felt like your arrangements of your

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 1>songs was just as distinctive, these big songs that you know,

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:16.399
<v Speaker 1>everyone knows you did something to you. We're Hamburger. They're like,

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, we love you, You're amazing, you know you've

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<v Speaker 1>done it again, where I'm like, okay, but what about

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 1>this bitch?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is interesting, like he's obviously he's so so talented.

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<v Speaker 6>I love that guy, right, But yeah, I think I

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<v Speaker 6>think there's just a lot of factors that go into that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think I think I.

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<v Speaker 6>Probably also did have like more the songs that are

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<v Speaker 6>sung on the show with sort of that more stripped

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 6>back ballady sort of style, which I think as well,

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 6>people like have very tastes and stuff. But I guess

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 6>the upbeat songs are always sort of the ones that

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<v Speaker 6>I guess do well in that setting.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of the time. I mean, I love stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 6>I love arranging songs and making them my own. Like

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<v Speaker 6>my one thing that I said every week was sort

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 6>of like I don't understand, like I'm covering it, like

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to say I did another thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>doing the song or like I always and I think

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:07.719
<v Speaker 6>I naturally do it too. I think, like the judges

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<v Speaker 6>even said that, like you just you don't even know

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 6>that you do it, but you just naturally put your

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 6>twist on it, and when you're sing, you just naturally

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:16.639
<v Speaker 6>change things like you just you just.

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<v Speaker 3>Do your own thing.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think it's just a natural thing as well.

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<v Speaker 6>I just sing it and feel it and connect with it,

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<v Speaker 6>and it just sort of happens, which is really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so people listening to the podcast understand. I sometimes

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:30.120
<v Speaker 1>use the term bitch because I'm reclaiming it. I don't

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:31.879
<v Speaker 1>say it in a negative people going to come to

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<v Speaker 1>something another like you right.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I'm doing my finger snap in the air.

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I mean. That's what I'm doing. And

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 1>people sometimes are like you old gay, why and how

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>dare you? And I'm like, no, I'm saying it in

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<v Speaker 1>the best way possible.

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<v Speaker 7>What about this?

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Like I have all people understand, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad that I've broken you on board. I

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to know because I know RICKI lay personally, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just know how kind and how generous she is

0:24:58.000 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>with her time. Did she get a chance to talk

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<v Speaker 1>you after the show last night? And I'm sure she did,

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<v Speaker 1>but can you tell us what she might have said.

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<v Speaker 6>Didn't get a chance to chat to her too much

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<v Speaker 6>after the show last night, but things were a bit crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>But like during the show and like throughout the process,

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<v Speaker 6>like when I after I performed and everything, she she's

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<v Speaker 6>so kind, like so kind, Like I think, yeah, one

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<v Speaker 6>of the kind of people in the process.

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Like she really stood out to me actually because I think.

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:24.439
<v Speaker 1>She said that's her.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, every time I've done she took time to comment

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<v Speaker 6>in like and was really genuine about it, like she

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 6>sort of just like, actually, I love your voice and

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 6>sort of said said things that super encouraging. And I

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 6>think it's nice that because obviously she understands that journey

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 6>and she understands I guess what happens after and what

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 6>it takes and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's cool that she saw that in me, like

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 3>that she's.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually recognized and I guess sees something in me is

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 6>really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's lovely, lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been really stressful last night, like you

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 1>were saying, we didn't get a chance to talk to her.

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>But I want to know, Like how do they get

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<v Speaker 1>you home and make sure that you're up in time

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>for these interviews in the morning? Do they shoot you

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>with a tranquilizer and throw you in a van and

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>make you go to sleep, take your phone off you

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>like what happens?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was it.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean to be honest, Like it's pretty exhausting. So

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 6>I just it's crashed out, really and then I'll head

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 6>home today.

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 1>What does it look like for Like, do you know

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 1>what happens to you now? Like do they just pop

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you into a cupboard and we'll bring you out for

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>a reunion special? Like what happens?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they? No?

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<v Speaker 6>I did?

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I just think it'd be interesting to you know, go

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<v Speaker 1>back to Canberra and you know, and see and to

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>go back to normal life. That would seem like a

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>really big culture shock because so much of everything has

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.679
<v Speaker 1>been so fast paced, with picking your songs, work on choreography,

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.680
<v Speaker 1>doing group songs, like all of this stuff. It's just

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>been so hectic. Are you looking forward to the downtime

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 1>or do you think you're trying sort of push the momentum.

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<v Speaker 6>That's That's one thing that I'm like thinking about heavily

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 6>because obviously you want to, like, it's so important to

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 6>look after yourself after doing something like this. I think

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:00.880
<v Speaker 6>it's crucial really because otherwise, if you just go full

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 6>steam ahead and don't have downtime, it's not like it's

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 6>just not healthy. And I'm big on making sure that

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 6>I do that, Like I think I'm really big on

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 6>longevity as well, Like I don't want to burn out,

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 6>so I think I need to find ways to utilize

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 6>the momentum because I also don't want that to fizzle out.

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 6>So I think I need to be consistent and use

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 6>the momentum, but also make sure I look after myself,

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 6>Like it's so important.

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 3>To do that something like this.

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>If you're don't just keep throwing yourself out there, you

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>burn yourself out when opportunities do come up, you need

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to be fresh and prime.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that's exactly right, Like I'm big on I always

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 6>like one of my favorite things is always like see

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 6>what happens when the dust settles, Like I just love

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 6>that because it's always it's always sort of everything's really

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 6>heightened in the moment, but everything I guess I've ever

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 6>experienced when it comes to my career, it happens later,

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 6>like the dust has to settle, and it's sort of

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 6>the high, Like the high is done. It's like the

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 6>big moment's done, and it's I guess what you do

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 6>after that and what happens after that? And I want to,

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 6>I guess be ready for whatever comes my way sort

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 6>of thing. And so it's definitely important to look after

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 6>myself so that I am ready. But also I think

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 6>even taking time to be mindful and like grateful for

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 6>what I got out of the experience and actually like

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 6>reflect on I think that's super important too, like actually

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 6>sitting with it and like being mindful about that so

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 6>that I can, I guess, take that in process and

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 6>like channel.

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<v Speaker 3>That moving forward. I think that's like really important too.

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>See. I knew you were smart, Emma Jones. I knew,

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>well I was going to have this call with you today.

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to learn some stuff from you. And I

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>think that that's that's really good And it's amazing that

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>there's these young people out there that will look up

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>to you, And that's also an important role to take on,

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>is to set a good example for really the young

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>people who are coming up from behind you that you

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>know might be a rascals at school or trying to

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>explore what they want to be as an artist. And

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>having someone like yourself with your head very level on

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>your shoulders. I think this is quite amazing and you

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>could sort of see that throughout your time on the competition.

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Amazing.

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>What about these judges are you like if you had

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>to put them in order? I've not done this to

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>anyone yet, but I feel like you're the one most

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>level of person so far. So, like you know, in

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>regards to these three judges, I guarantee you they're all

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>very busy. They're never going to listen to it. What

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>do you reckon top three judges? Can you put them

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>in order?

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<v Speaker 6>I think it would depend on on what the order

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 6>was based off. But I think they all I think

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 6>they all have really good things to offer, Like I

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 6>think in their own right, I guess they're very different,

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 6>like they all are very different, and they're in different

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 6>sort of in the same world, but different lanes, And

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 6>I think very much that's really cool because they sort

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 6>of cover a lot of different bases, like I think

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 6>it'd be hard to I guess put it in an order.

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 6>Like I think for me personally, it's based off I

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 6>guess who I connect with. I think I really connected

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 6>with Marsha because I just think she obviously has like

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 6>a wealth of knowledge, that's a very wise person and

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 6>quite empathetic as well, Like I think we sort of

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 6>just connected on that level. And then Amy Shark as well,

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 6>Like I I think he had a genuine I guess

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 6>he saw something in me as well and was really encouraging,

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 6>and so I think that'd probably in my order.

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>To be able to pull you in line.

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll tell you the harsh exactly.

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 6>I think he actually was really lovely, Like I think

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 6>he's very like smart man, Like he's very good at

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 6>what he does, and I think there's a lot to

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 6>learn from him in that aspect, and actually even just

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 6>seeing how he conducts himself and that sort of thing

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 6>like is very very interesting to observe and it's good

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 6>to I guess, take pieces of wisdom off of like

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 6>each judge because I think they have different things to offer.

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 3>And hopefully, I mean I hope that I can sort.

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 6>Of use the momentum and like try and maintain a

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 6>connection with them, I guess because I feel.

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, I think that's super important.

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 6>Like I was talking to Marsha the other night, and

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<v Speaker 6>she's sort of like encouraging me about the comments that

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<v Speaker 6>she made of my last performance and just saying sort

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<v Speaker 6>of if you need me to like explain this to

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<v Speaker 6>you more, like I'd love to chat to you about

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<v Speaker 6>And that's good thing. So it's definitely there's a all

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<v Speaker 6>it's open. So I guess it's just a matter of

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<v Speaker 6>maintaining and like trying to foster that connection because I

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<v Speaker 6>think I don't know what's there to lose at the

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<v Speaker 6>end of the day. She's someone that I think I

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<v Speaker 6>could learn a lot from, so might as well maintain

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<v Speaker 6>the connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Very smart lady, very smart lady, very kind, very generous. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>when they brought her back full time for season two

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<v Speaker 1>of the reboot for Channel seven, I was like, that

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<v Speaker 1>was a turning point for the competition for me, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>for this reality series, because she brings a gravitas to

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<v Speaker 1>the show that not many people could have. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a survivor in an industry which is very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to do she's still selling out concert halls at her age. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that is amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the thing that inspires me about her as well.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that something that I connected with her was

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<v Speaker 6>the longevity, Like her career is.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, and that's what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the industry has become one that's very sort

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<v Speaker 6>of short lived, like you sort of have like thirty seconds,

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<v Speaker 6>like even less, and that's the time, and then it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>what's the next thing, And everything's so instant. So I

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<v Speaker 6>think it's inspiring to see somebody that still doing it

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<v Speaker 6>because I think that's that's.

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<v Speaker 3>What I want to do.

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<v Speaker 6>If I don't want to have guests that sort of

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<v Speaker 6>instant career and it doesn't last, like I want to

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<v Speaker 6>make a long, laughing impression and I guess have a legacy,

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<v Speaker 6>and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess that's what everyone wants.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think get it's not something that I would

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<v Speaker 6>ever compromise on. I think there's obviously always a potential

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<v Speaker 6>to compromise on that, but it's something that I'm really

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<v Speaker 6>passionate about, Like I want to have a long career

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<v Speaker 6>and have influence and like you said about the next

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<v Speaker 6>generation and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's important, like to be someone that's consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you don't get a voice like you and you disappear.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a voice like you. People celebrated they download

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<v Speaker 1>your songs, you know, and that's something that people can do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've been listening to your songs more on

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<v Speaker 1>rotation than I think anyone else. I'm loving Eilish, but

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<v Speaker 1>I find when I listened to the songs at home,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as good as watching her life before because

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<v Speaker 1>she does a lot of stuff with it. But when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to just putting on some tracks and enjoying it,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been playing your music more than anyone else, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that love is that sign of longevity.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean? Like you're a true artist,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a recording artist ready to go. Before you go,

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<v Speaker 1>I ask everyone, what is something from behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a fun story about something crazy that

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<v Speaker 1>happened behind the scenes whilst you've been making the show.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the craziest moment for me, I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 6>it was on Telly, but there's a lot of crazy moments,

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<v Speaker 6>but I think the main was like when I performed

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<v Speaker 6>to the Googo Dogs that day was absolutely insane because

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know that it was happening, so that was

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<v Speaker 6>a full surprise and I literally was They were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>we're going to go here. I had no idea that

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<v Speaker 6>I was going to meet them, so I thought I

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<v Speaker 6>went in thinking like, oh, yeah, I'm going to meet them,

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<v Speaker 6>Like that's really cool. And that was sort of the height,

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<v Speaker 6>like I was like, Wow, I'm meeting them, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>And then I got there and John the soundt it

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<v Speaker 6>was like, oh, you want to just sing?

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<v Speaker 3>Sing?

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<v Speaker 6>And I like literally was standing there something even thing

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<v Speaker 6>quite warmed up, and he was like, yeah, just sing

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<v Speaker 6>the second verse for me, and I was like what

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<v Speaker 6>the heck? And then I sung and he literally was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>do you want to sing tonight? And the next minute

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<v Speaker 6>I was singing for like five thousand people.

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<v Speaker 8>John actually invited me to perform tonight, singing on stage

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<v Speaker 8>with the Google doors in front of a.

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<v Speaker 7>Room full of their fans.

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<v Speaker 8>I was not expecting that, Hey, Australia, Adolf, let's have

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<v Speaker 8>a chance, come on.

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<v Speaker 7>How the ball Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked that moment on the show because it reminded

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<v Speaker 1>me of Lady Gaga in A Star is Born, where

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<v Speaker 1>she walked on stage and sung. I thought. I was, like,

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<v Speaker 1>that was an iconic part of the film, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it felt like for me watching you. I just think,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's the limit for you. There's more those opportunities coming,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll be more prepared for it than just walking

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<v Speaker 1>out in front of that sort of an audience.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I'm really grateful for everything that I've learned

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<v Speaker 6>in terms of like things I experience and even that performance,

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<v Speaker 6>like having that under my belt, and all the different

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<v Speaker 6>things with television and all the stuff that you learn

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<v Speaker 6>and even media, like interested with media and social media

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<v Speaker 6>and that sort of thing, like I was sort of,

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<v Speaker 6>I guess I've learned a lot about engagement and how

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<v Speaker 6>to do that and that sort of thing, and I

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<v Speaker 6>feel more confident, like empowered to do that moving forward,

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<v Speaker 6>which is important. Like I came here to put myself

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<v Speaker 6>out there and to I guess grow, and I've done

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<v Speaker 6>both of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Emma, collect your stories is the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I tell everyone I'm in your audience. I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to see what you do with this. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for being so generous with your time this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Look after yourself enjoy chatting to the media. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there's lots of people out there LA talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>and looking forward to that. Cheers mate, Thank you so much, Ali,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.