WEBVTT - ATTRACTION PART 2 - Is it a "grower" or a "shower"?! 

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<v Speaker 1>If this is storing me bus, you're dead. Hi, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and well here back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Laura, my name is Brittany, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're about to do to me. I can

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<v Speaker 1>see the look in your eye. You're about to throw

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<v Speaker 1>me under the bus in some capacity. I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to work out which way. I think it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the Daily Mail headline. You guys know that

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<v Speaker 1>we love the Daily Mail here and usually, okay, usually

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<v Speaker 1>it's me. Usually I am the butt of the articles,

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<v Speaker 1>the literal butt, so many puns intended, like they always

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<v Speaker 1>seem to want to talk about my butt. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>because I say things like pinky and the stinky on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast one hundred percent wide. They don't just make

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<v Speaker 1>it up. No, that's exactly the problem. The problem is

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<v Speaker 1>that they do make it up. They take things entirely

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<v Speaker 1>out of context and create brand new articles about it

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<v Speaker 1>which have nothing to do with what we originally spoke about. However,

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<v Speaker 1>this one has everything to do with what Britney spoke about.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the headline from today's news. Talk about too

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<v Speaker 1>much information TMI. Brittany Hockley thought tennis pro boyfriend Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson would just be a summer shag, as he complains

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<v Speaker 1>about her stinky butt in a very candid chat. Fucky,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you, deadly mate, how stinky is your butt? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been in this house when it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>bit stinky. We're not gonna talk about it, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about what just happened in my bathroom. Laura Burn,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that you're really close friends with someone when

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to just go to their house and do

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<v Speaker 1>a poop. You destroyed my toilet, like you just destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>it and I had to close the doors I could

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<v Speaker 1>sanction off. Okay, the headline is so cooked, so cooked.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, okay, the first half, let's break this down,

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<v Speaker 1>the fairlouse. Let's do a nuance dissection of Britney's stinky

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<v Speaker 1>butt article. The first half.

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<v Speaker 2>Brittany thought Jordan Thompson was gonna be a summer shagure

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<v Speaker 2>so much truth to that. I did not think that

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be a relationship seven year difference athlete that lives overseas.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, cool, he's young, he's cute, he's hot,

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<v Speaker 2>he's here for this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see how that goes Hot boy summer, hot girl summer,

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<v Speaker 1>hot vaxed waxed girl summer. There is nothing wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>that part of the article.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing wrong with me wanting to have some summer loving,

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<v Speaker 2>because every girl deserves a good summer fling.

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<v Speaker 1>The part that I have a very big problem with

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<v Speaker 1>is them saying in the headline that can you quote

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<v Speaker 1>me again? What was it? Jordan has a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>Britney's stinky butt. H to literal headline is as he

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<v Speaker 1>complains about her stinky butt in very candid chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Jordan has never complained about my stinky butt. Daily

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<v Speaker 2>Mail take this line. I do not have a stinky butt.

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<v Speaker 2>I shower multiple times a day. Where this is all

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<v Speaker 2>coming from is Jordan joined the podcast for a bonus episode.

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<v Speaker 2>It was myself and Jordan. We answered all of your questions.

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<v Speaker 2>It was last week. If you haven't listened, to go

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<v Speaker 2>back and have a listen. It's a really great chat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nice little insight into their relationship. And obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>like you guys, hear so much from me and Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>you know all about deep, dark and dirty secrets. There

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<v Speaker 1>aren't really many dirty secrets dark, but this was like

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<v Speaker 1>a nice little It was just a nice little chat

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<v Speaker 1>with Britt and with Jordan to get to know and

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<v Speaker 1>understand a bit more about their relationship and also the

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<v Speaker 1>dynamics as to how it works, how they met. Part

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<v Speaker 1>of that was what are your nicknames for each other? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually do not know why. Jordan explained it on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast. I don't even remember it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we just started to call each other stinky for

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<v Speaker 1>no reason, not because we smell, just because we thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was cute.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how we say it to each other because

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<v Speaker 2>we call it all day. He'll text me all day, Hey, stinky,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you? That's it, and I'll say, hey, stink dog,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey stinky.

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<v Speaker 1>We just it's just what we do. And then it

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<v Speaker 1>started and then and then it eventuated to stinky butt.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he calls me everything.

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<v Speaker 2>He calls me cutie butt, sexy butt, weirdy butt, nerdy butt.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything he says, he just puts a butt on the end.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just what he does. So stinky turned into stinky butt.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not have a stinky butt. He did not

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<v Speaker 2>name me this because I had a stinky butt. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Daily Mail, Holy, it is the most twisted, fucked

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<v Speaker 2>up penline. I have seen from them so bloody well done.

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<v Speaker 1>What I like about these your pet names is like

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<v Speaker 1>it could be that you're a stinky butt, as in

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<v Speaker 1>like stinky bottom, or it could be like stinky butt,

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<v Speaker 1>nerdy butt, like there's something else coming question, like if

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're not stinky, but is it it's two teas,

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<v Speaker 1>it's be double tea okay. But also on this everybody

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<v Speaker 1>has weird pet names, Like I'd love to know from

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, from the listeners, what are them of the

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<v Speaker 1>weirdest if your friends or your family knew the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you call each other behind closed doors, what would

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<v Speaker 1>it be? I call Matt honeybee. It was vomit in

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<v Speaker 1>my mouth. I would rather be called stinky butt than

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<v Speaker 1>honey bee. Honey bee. God, they're losers. Okay. Anyway, onto

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<v Speaker 1>some very exciting news. But we're coming in hot and

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<v Speaker 1>on a high today. The reason why we are probably

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<v Speaker 1>sounding a little bit manic is because we have just

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<v Speaker 1>come back from doing Kyle and Jackie O this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to sit in on their radio show to

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<v Speaker 1>announce some really exciting news. Guys, we have our very

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<v Speaker 1>own radio show on KSFM on a Saturday it is insane. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have it yet, like it's starting next year

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<v Speaker 1>dotted line. They have contracted us. They cannot revoke it now,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's too late for them to go back on it.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably listened to our recording this morning. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a few f bombs that I accidentally dropped. Lucky. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a live beeper. Britt swore live on breakfast radio, not once,

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<v Speaker 1>but twice, and I managed to say anal sex on

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<v Speaker 1>live breakfast radio in the first four minutes. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure after that all went down, the people who

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<v Speaker 1>signed us for this radio show were like, what have

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<v Speaker 1>we done? The big boss messages they're like, hey, that

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<v Speaker 1>was really cute. We'll work on some things. O. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but guys, it's so exciting. So this is actually this

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<v Speaker 1>is a national radio show, so we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing I mean, for those of you who've been listening

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while, we did do a trial almost

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago. Now, it was really late at night.

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<v Speaker 1>They put us on like the midnight shift because they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, these girls cannot be trying just to be

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<v Speaker 1>sure we didn't drop any bombs live on a breakfast show.

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<v Speaker 1>But it turns out that yeah, so it all came

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<v Speaker 1>into fruition. We are starting in January and it will

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<v Speaker 1>be every Saturday morning, a national radio show, so even

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<v Speaker 1>if you were in some far remote corners of Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll still be able to hopefully jump in your car

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<v Speaker 1>or pull out the old radio. I don't know, how

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<v Speaker 1>do people listen to the radio these days? Extreme you idiots.

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<v Speaker 1>You can listen to it on the internet wherever you are.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have internet, we can come to you live

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<v Speaker 1>on a Saturday, except in Western Australia, but everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, sorry, sorry to our Perth guys. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want us in Perth.

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<v Speaker 2>But we also it is very signing producer Keisha is

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<v Speaker 2>coming on board. She'll be producing the show as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like our whole little life Uncut team is

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<v Speaker 2>just picking up and going to do radio. But fear not,

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<v Speaker 2>we are still doing the podcast. We're still having the Tuesdays,

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<v Speaker 2>we're still having the Thursdays, we're still doing the bonus episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing is changing in that sense. But all that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen is we're adding in another aspect to this

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<v Speaker 2>radio show and.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just so fucking excited. But anyway, that is coming

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<v Speaker 1>in January, and thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so much love and support coming from you guys, LARNI,

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<v Speaker 2>so thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we should probably tell you about what this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is about. A few weeks ago, you might remember

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<v Speaker 1>that we did part one of Attraction, and when we

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<v Speaker 1>got into dissecting the conversation around attraction, why are we

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<v Speaker 1>attracted to certain people over others? How do we build

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<v Speaker 1>and form connections of attraction? We realized that this was

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<v Speaker 1>actually such a huge area of conversation. There were so

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<v Speaker 1>many parts to attraction and how it works that we

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<v Speaker 1>decided we would have to break it up over two

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<v Speaker 1>separate episodes. So the first episode we touched on things like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, can you sleep with someone who you are

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<v Speaker 1>sexually attracted to but have no emotional or romantic connections.

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<v Speaker 1>But on this episode, we're going to get into what

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<v Speaker 1>are the different types of attraction and then we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk a little bit about gender and how gender

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<v Speaker 1>can impact different types of attraction. So different types of

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<v Speaker 1>sexualities that can impact attraction, things like sapio sexuality, demi sexuality,

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<v Speaker 1>pan sexuality, some of the different types to maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>as commonly spoken about now. One thing that I freaking

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<v Speaker 1>love about this episode is we actually have a listener

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<v Speaker 1>who's come onto this episod So. Their name is Billy.

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<v Speaker 1>Billy is non binary and they also identify as being asexual,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was so incredibly interesting to have somebody from

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<v Speaker 1>our own community to discuss what asexuality is and how

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<v Speaker 1>it impacts their life and also their relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Billy is a Day one listener as well, which

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<v Speaker 2>we absolutely love. But I learned so much just in

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<v Speaker 2>that chat alone, and I'm really excited for you guys

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<v Speaker 2>to hear that later on in the episode. But before

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<v Speaker 2>we get into that, Laura Taylor Swift, she's taken ten

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<v Speaker 2>years to get over her three month relationship with Jake Jillenhall.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been looking at this kafuffle now? Before I

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<v Speaker 1>like disclaimer, I love Taylor Swift. I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>my Bessie.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a bad way to say about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think this whole thing is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a full closet swifty. I'm swifty, not even closet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come out and say it. I'm here, I'm a diehard.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen her three times in concert. I'm proper with

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<v Speaker 1>you all right, Brittany, just trying to one up here.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister and I we love it so much so

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you guys haven't seen, there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of conversation and in spiraling around the internet and

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<v Speaker 1>the media in regards to Taylor Swift re releasing her album,

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<v Speaker 1>her album from what was a decade ago, named Red.

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<v Speaker 1>It was released on the twenty second of October in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve. And this is the album that was so

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental in I think so many of our twenties, Like

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<v Speaker 1>in my twenties, this was like the album, the cornerstone

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<v Speaker 1>breakup album of my twenties. It was the album that

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<v Speaker 1>had the song like We're never getting back together in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think, like for most of us, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there's a good majority of people listening to this who

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<v Speaker 1>danced around their bedroom after a bad breakup to that song.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I certainly did. But then there's also the

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<v Speaker 1>song that's kind of been thrown into the limelight and

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation around Jake Gillenhall is in regards to the

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<v Speaker 1>song all too well, basically the rundown on why Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>Swift is re recording her albums is because a former

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<v Speaker 1>label of hers, so the Big Machine, which was the

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<v Speaker 1>label that had signed her, refused to give her rights

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<v Speaker 1>to her Masters, which she had signed away and without

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<v Speaker 1>her permission, they had on sold her songs, which means

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<v Speaker 1>that she doesn't have agency over the music that she created.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be able to try and regain some of

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<v Speaker 1>that control and regain some of that ownership, she decided

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<v Speaker 1>to completely re release her albums, release them with extra songs,

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<v Speaker 1>unheard content, and one of the big releases was last week.

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<v Speaker 1>The original album only had nine songs on it. The

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<v Speaker 1>new album track has sixteen songs, and it also has

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<v Speaker 1>a ten minute version of the song all Too Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now All Too Well is the song that everyone thinks

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<v Speaker 1>is about Jake Gillenhall. The controversy here.

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<v Speaker 2>Comes from the fact that this ten minute release, this

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<v Speaker 2>new release that she's done now all Too Well comes

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a short film. She's put together a short film.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very good. I watch it again this morning, Kape.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it, like I was really into it.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem comes with she's added in some extra since

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<v Speaker 2>she's added in some extra dialogue into this ten minute song,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's added in. I guess it's a story and

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<v Speaker 2>it's obviously without her saying it, it's obviously her portraying

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<v Speaker 2>the situation as she saw it. Now Jake Gillenhall, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if anyone's checked in on Jake, but he's been.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been absolutely. I went onto his Instagram. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you've got to look at his comment section.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't posted anything. So you know how people go

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<v Speaker 2>back to, like the last photo that you've posted. It's insanity.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many people saying, like, you've got one

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<v Speaker 1>week left to return her scarf. Can't believe he's told

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<v Speaker 1>her scarf one week until you're gonna be taken down.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's been absolutely trolled in the media. What I

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<v Speaker 2>find interesting. So I'm just gonna add a different dynamic

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<v Speaker 2>here and a different view. So I have some people

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<v Speaker 2>in my life that are very, very big Swifties and

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<v Speaker 2>they've gone deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there are these, you know, like the deep web,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's usually like the dark swift view where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to sell firearms illegally. There is a deep web

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<v Speaker 1>that is dedicated to Swifties. There is like these deep

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<v Speaker 1>deep forums that are purely Taylor Swift fans. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of talk about these people and they everything

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<v Speaker 1>that they say ends up coming true. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's sleuths in the Bachelor Forum. It's like that bit

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<v Speaker 1>on steroids.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of people that are saying this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing with Jake from the very beginning, that his

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<v Speaker 2>team isn't on it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a PR stunt. They know all about it. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no way she would have least these lyrics and

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<v Speaker 1>a whole short film dedicated to him without him knowing

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Now they're coming out of the woodwork saying

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<v Speaker 1>apparently this song was written and recorded three months before

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<v Speaker 1>they actually even met, ten years ago. Then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, all they've only even photographed three times together

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<v Speaker 1>in the three months they were dating. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>times Taylor Swift threw a scarf at one of the

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<v Speaker 1>paps and that's where it all went down. And Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>Swifts has come out before in the past saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I let the media know the story that I

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<v Speaker 1>want them to know. So there's all this talk that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe such Jake's in on this. When did you become

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<v Speaker 1>a conspiracy theorist? I'm a Taylor Swift conspiracy Did you

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<v Speaker 1>spiral down the conspira like? I like that you came

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<v Speaker 1>with no quotes, you came with no articles that had

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<v Speaker 1>ever said this. You're just like I heard it once

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<v Speaker 1>from a very very reliable source.

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<v Speaker 2>Because also we all know, well, I just don't see

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<v Speaker 2>how else she would do it and she would get

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<v Speaker 2>away with because she knows what's going to happen to him.

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<v Speaker 2>If she does it, he would have to be okay

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe that who knows, No one is ever

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<v Speaker 1>going to know what really went down between Taylor and.

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<v Speaker 2>Jake, but the whole world is absolutely living for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know how Jake is going to come

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<v Speaker 2>out the other side of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Her army is strong. Well, that's why I don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look here for the conspiracy theories. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that that is true. I think that there's always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be another side to the story where people

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to put two and two together. But one

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor switch has never come out and specifically said that

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<v Speaker 1>this song is about Jake Jillenhall. However, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the actions and at the time alluded to this relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>That she had, and it was kind of well known

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<v Speaker 1>in media that back in twenty eleven she had a

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<v Speaker 1>three month relationship with Jake Jillenhall. So I think the

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<v Speaker 1>big thing for me is I read this quote and

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<v Speaker 1>I really felt for her. So when she was asked

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<v Speaker 1>whether the experience of re releasing read because like some

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, well, move on, get over it, She's

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<v Speaker 1>not re releasing this music because she's still hung up

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<v Speaker 1>on Jake Jillenhall. Like the girl has moved on. She's

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<v Speaker 1>in a very good place now. She's re releasing the

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<v Speaker 1>music to have ownership over her creations. That's the whole

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<v Speaker 1>purpose behind the It just so happens that everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, I remember and the Pitchforks come back out.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's written, I was honestly in a really sad

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<v Speaker 1>place because I had actually gone through the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>I had sung about. But this time, I've got sunglasses on,

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<v Speaker 1>a mehido in hand. It's chill time. It's really nice

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to put this album out and not

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<v Speaker 1>be sad and not be taking breaks in between interviews

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<v Speaker 1>to cry. So for me, I think what she was

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<v Speaker 1>writing about was a reflection of what she was going through.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not that was specifically Jake Gillenholl will never know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is important to not absolutely no one has

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<v Speaker 1>ever come out and confirmed that the song is even

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<v Speaker 1>about Jake. It's just like what the world has taken.

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<v Speaker 2>But I went on Jake's Instagram this morning for a

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<v Speaker 2>quick little sleuth to see what was happening. His average

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<v Speaker 2>comments in his last photos from last month a two thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand, five hundred his last post since Taylor Swift

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<v Speaker 2>has released this ten minute video forty three thousand, forty

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<v Speaker 2>three thousand so far, and that seemed like what not

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<v Speaker 2>even forty eight hours?

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<v Speaker 1>So the world is going bonkers? Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>I think? This is so interesting? So the world is

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<v Speaker 1>quite divided as well. The conversations I've seen online is

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<v Speaker 1>like fifty percent of people are like, I am here

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<v Speaker 1>for this, I'm here for the takedown of Jake Jillenhall.

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<v Speaker 1>The other fifty percent are like, hey, guys, this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually really online bullying now, Like you're bullying someone for

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<v Speaker 1>something that they may or may not have done based

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<v Speaker 1>on your speculation from ten years ago, a relationship that

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<v Speaker 1>was It's also one sided. It's one person's perspective of

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<v Speaker 1>what that relationship was, and it's a relationship that was

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<v Speaker 1>over a decade ago, So does the punishment fit the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>But the big thing about this, and what I think

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<v Speaker 1>is so interesting, is like I actually think Jake Jillenhall

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<v Speaker 1>has become the scapegoat for how we all felt. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember listening to that song back in my twenties and

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<v Speaker 1>like it really moved me because I had been through

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<v Speaker 1>my own bad shit. I had been through my own

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreak and so when you have someone who you can go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you did that to her, she felt the way I felt.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jake Gillenhall ends up becoming the target for our

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<v Speaker 1>collective pain, like our collective suffering that we all experience

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<v Speaker 1>now twenties, which was a weird and confusing time. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like that person now has a face again, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately for Jake, it's Jake Gillenhall.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually, again, on a serious note, it's easy for

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<v Speaker 2>us to have a laugh about the whole thing, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually really feel I loved Taylor, but I really

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<v Speaker 1>feel for Jake right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now because regardless of if this song was him or not,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that we know like Our facts in this

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<v Speaker 2>situation are that ten years ago two people in the

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<v Speaker 2>public eye dated for three months and it didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is the world still up in arms that ten

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<v Speaker 2>years ago a relationship didn't work out because that is dating. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know specifics what went down in that. And again, Laurie,

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<v Speaker 2>you said it's very one sided. We haven't heard from Jake.

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<v Speaker 2>I highly doubt we will. Maybe we'll get one statement eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>like a one line statement, but I think he's probably

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna ride this out.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's pretty insane that we are now.

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<v Speaker 2>Attacking and online bullying somebody because ten years ago they

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<v Speaker 2>had a three month relationship that didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I just wanted to share with you one

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<v Speaker 1>other thing. This was the Instagram caption that Taylor's Swift

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<v Speaker 1>put up when she re released All Too Well. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>just a friendly reminder that I would never have thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was possible to go back and to remake my

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<v Speaker 1>previous work uncovering lost art and forgotten gems along the

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<v Speaker 1>way if you hadn't emboldened me. Red is about to

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<v Speaker 1>be mine again, but it has always been ours. Tonight

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<v Speaker 1>we begin again read My version is out now, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she's so good with words, I just got goosebumps. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the true essence of this. The reason why people

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<v Speaker 1>are so angry is because of that whole It comes

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<v Speaker 1>back to that whole feeling of like we all identify

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<v Speaker 1>with that heartbreak. We all have been there with all experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we haven't all had an aged gap relationship where

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of been the determining factor of the breakdown,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure a lot of us have. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us have dated guys who have been

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<v Speaker 1>older then it hasn't worked out. We felt insignificant, we

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<v Speaker 1>felt stupid, we felt unloved, And then you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>these albums and you listen to these songs and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else, a celebrity, somebody who I idolize, has felt

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<v Speaker 1>the same way that I do. And there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of solace and savior in.

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<v Speaker 2>That somebody that looks like they have everything you could

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<v Speaker 2>possibly want in the whole world still has those feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why the world loves Taylor Swift because she's relatable.

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<v Speaker 2>She literally sings, speaks acts from the heart, and the

0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:12.920
<v Speaker 2>world relates to that because there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that are in the public eye like herself, that

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<v Speaker 2>are so raw, so it's done her.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Taylor, I love Jake, and I'm very interested

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<v Speaker 2>to see how this turns out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just feel sorry for John Mayer because I'm

0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure that his head is on the next chopping block.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot about him so bad. All right, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into our favorite part of every episode. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all our favorite parts, but this one is really it's

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<v Speaker 1>been going for a while now, accidentally unfiltered. I like

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<v Speaker 1>that you jumped in there. You're just waiting to see

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<v Speaker 1>how long I was gonna hold out. Yeah, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>static pause. You know, we don't do radio silence here, Laura, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I find cut. Do you have a confessional or an

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally unfiltered What are you sharing?

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<v Speaker 2>I've got an accent unfiltered, and it's super innocent and cute.

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<v Speaker 2>But it really tickled me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have an act me who I am? It

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<v Speaker 1>tickled me? Good? Okay, I have one that has absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with poo to everybody's surprise. How they

0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.760
<v Speaker 1>both have nothing to do with poop. Well, let's just

0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.280
<v Speaker 1>talk about it now. For a little while, just to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that every episode we managed to talk about poop.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not so much funny as what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>If I just want you to I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>put yourself in this person's shoes, to fully understand and

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<v Speaker 1>feel it in the dark corners of your heart. How

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing this is? Ohr Okay? This one was more an

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing moment than what it was and accidentally unfiltered. That

0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.159
<v Speaker 1>happened during my high school years. I spent the night

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<v Speaker 1>at a friend's house, and the next morning she left

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<v Speaker 1>early to go to work for a few hours, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was there on my own at her parents' house.

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<v Speaker 1>Her parents were also home. I went for a shower,

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<v Speaker 1>and I forgot that I had my tampon in but

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to take it out so I could feel

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<v Speaker 1>super clean. So I take out my tampon I put

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor of the shower. I finish washing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I get out. A few hours later, I realized I

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<v Speaker 1>had left the tampon on the shower floor. I went

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<v Speaker 1>back into the bathroom to put it in the bin,

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<v Speaker 1>and to my horror, my friend's mom had cleaned up

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom and the used tampon was gone. This was

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<v Speaker 1>never spoken about with my friend or her mum, But

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<v Speaker 1>I can just imagine how disgusted her mother was with me,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that I am a feral child who leaves tampons

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<v Speaker 1>in the shower. Okay, so maybe it's the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've had a few of these coming before with

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<v Speaker 2>people that have accidentally left them places. Maybe for this

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<v Speaker 2>girl's sanity, there is a small chance that the mother

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was actually her own daughter, not the daughter's friend.

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<v Speaker 1>The daughter was already gone though the daughter was out, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she was home by herself in her friend's house. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it was you with a tampon in the shower. Could

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine how grotty like I'm just trying to put

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<v Speaker 1>myself in this position. Could you imagine how disgusting you

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<v Speaker 1>would think your daughter's friend is. You'd be like, what

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<v Speaker 1>it is wrong with me?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you take a tampon out of the shower?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever done that? Because I have not.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't, but I can understand if you're wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>feel super clean, maybe you would take a tampon out.

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<v Speaker 1>What to get up in there? Maybe I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to up in sandiovige. Oh no, no

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<v Speaker 1>one does. It's weird. This is just strange shirt. What

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<v Speaker 1>I should have known if you didn't bring poop story,

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<v Speaker 1>you were bringing a tampon story that I once lived

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<v Speaker 1>with housemates and I remember going to the toilet and

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<v Speaker 1>she had left a rolled up pad next to the toilet,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, come on, like, actually, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even rolled up next to the toilet. It was rolled

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<v Speaker 1>up and stuck onto the vanity on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the toilet, like as in like if you sit down

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<v Speaker 1>on the toilet. The sink was next to the toilet,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had stuck it to the side actual sticky

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<v Speaker 1>part of the passenger, so he wasn't rolled up. The

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<v Speaker 1>pad was open for the world to see. It was

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<v Speaker 1>rolled up but stuck, but stuck to the site. I

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<v Speaker 1>asked the same question we had that accidentally vun filtered,

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<v Speaker 1>coming about the poor girl that wanted to show off

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<v Speaker 1>to her in laws. She just renovated her house and

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to show it off. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you remember, Laura. So the in laws came over, She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>come look at my new house. She was doing the tour.

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<v Speaker 1>They were walking through and they were like ooh an

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<v Speaker 1>Irene in every room and she's like, we got into

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom. I was like going to the main bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>They went in really quickly and they came out really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't make any comments that in the bathroom. She's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, very bloody. She's like, why did anyone comment

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<v Speaker 1>in my bathroom? And she once they left, they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to go. Once they left, she went in

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<v Speaker 1>and she saw that she had like left her used

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa aside. She was like, well, that's probably why they

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<v Speaker 1>made no comments about my renovation. I love the renovation,

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.399
<v Speaker 1>but the daycore you probably could have used an interior designer.

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<v Speaker 1>You can work on the accessories. Oh my god, so gross.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey I have a question for you, which is totally unrelated.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you ever shave your face? Do you I have

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<v Speaker 1>a hairy face? Did this suck? Here? Is there something

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<v Speaker 1>you want to tell me? This is a question that

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<v Speaker 1>came up on the Facebook group, and I was shocked

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<v Speaker 1>to see how many replies there were in this question.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally don't have one hair on my face, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very lucky. I've never had to be that person

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<v Speaker 2>that has to like wax a mustache or anything like that. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a lot of hair on my whole body.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that. You can't even see him on my arms.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a hairy person. I have some good Italian

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<v Speaker 1>jeans running through my blood, and I have hairy arms

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<v Speaker 1>and a hairy face. So yes, you shave your lips. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I bleach my lip. But I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>this thread and I was like, God, maybe it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a bad idea. And then I found out that Lee Campbell,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the beauty editor from Mama Mia, she shaves her face,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, if it's good enough for Lee Campbell,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll start shaving my face. Wouldn't it make it

0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 1>grow back prickly, like when you shave your legs or

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<v Speaker 1>your under arms. I'm not sold on this beauty hack.

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.439
<v Speaker 1>No one run out and do this yet, Please do

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<v Speaker 1>your own research. Disclaimer. So I think it grows. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the misconception around this is that it grows

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<v Speaker 1>back thicker once you shave your hair. It doesn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>grow back thick. It grows back feeling coarse because instead

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<v Speaker 1>of the hair follicle being tapered, it's cut off, so

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<v Speaker 1>it'll grow back spiky, but it won't grow back thicker where.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know this because I've definitely shaved my arms,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have never shaved my face.

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<v Speaker 2>I just really want to make sure that disclaims out

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<v Speaker 2>there not to run out and shave your face anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, you're all beautiful as you are. If you do

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<v Speaker 1>shave your face, please let me know how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I might join you. Okay, I'm going to bring in Accidentally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm filtered. I'm not shaving my face ever for any

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<v Speaker 1>experiment or for any other reason. But what about your back?

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.199
<v Speaker 1>I literially don't have a hair on my body. It

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<v Speaker 1>must be nice being prettany ugly. It must be nice.

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:03.920
<v Speaker 1>It must be nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have an accidentally filtered that's so cute, innocent guys.

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Yesterday I had one of the most cringe worthy moments

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 2>of my life. I left the gym sweating like visible

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<v Speaker 2>balls of sweat all over my face, all over my

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<v Speaker 2>body everywhere. For context, I'm currently thirty nine weeks very pregnant.

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<v Speaker 2>I decided to make a quick visit to the local

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 2>bakery as they have just started making donuts and I

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 2>am here for it. Let me tell you that hashtag

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 2>preg life. As I walk in, I see my high

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>school boyfriend. We were each other's first I'm talking first

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<v Speaker 2>of everything. We haven't seen each other in almost ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awkward. I look like a hot, gross mess. I'm puffy,

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm swollen. We have a friendly hello. How's everything going?

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<v Speaker 1>He keeps saying, I just can't believe there's a baby

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Yeah, mate, me either. As I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the donuts, the girl that he is with says to me, so,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what you're having? I said, hmm, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not actually sure yet. Have you guys tried the new

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>donuts here? Can really recommend them? As I turned back around,

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<v Speaker 1>I see the awkward look on her face as I

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>realized she meant, what sex and baby are you have?

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's so kids like this is almost

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<v Speaker 1>too innocent for me to laugh at. I need like

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<v Speaker 1>something more sortid. I just thought it was Imagine how

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing it is you already feel discussing in front of

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<v Speaker 1>like the first love of your life. Then they say

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<v Speaker 1>what are you having? You start to cruddle off your

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<v Speaker 1>order really entered the tea donut with the milk shaking that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was like that moment of embarrassment

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<v Speaker 1>where she's like, sure, the icing on the cake, the

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>icing on the donut, mate, we're here for it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was time we had an other one

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and we see it from the sea one intent. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have an innocent accent, un filtered. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see you getting twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>So, as you mentioned at the beginning of the pod,

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<v Speaker 1>this is part two of a little attraction series that

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<v Speaker 1>we did. Part one we released a couple of weeks back. Now, look,

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<v Speaker 1>attraction as a concept is something that I think most

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<v Speaker 1>of us don't spend a lot of time things about,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're either attracted to people or we're not. But

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's nice to sit back and kind of dissect

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<v Speaker 1>what it is that makes you attracted to someone. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also a really important thing to do if you find

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<v Speaker 1>that you're attracted to people who are maybe not that

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 1>good for you, or you're having failed relationships, or maybe

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you're just in a bit of a rut in your

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>own relationship right now, it can kind of allow you

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<v Speaker 1>to have a bit more of an awareness around where

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<v Speaker 1>your attraction lies and why you are committing to someone

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>or the person that you're with. Now, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>few different types of attraction. We're going to unpack all

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>of those. We're then also going to get into a

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<v Speaker 1>few different types of how people relate to or find

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>attraction within their own sexualities and gender preferences and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's just like kick it off with like the

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<v Speaker 1>number one type of attraction that everyone seems to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I think for a lot of the literature,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the psychology around attraction seems to hold

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<v Speaker 1>up as the most important thing in a relationship, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is sexual attraction. Yeah, and I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>add one thing. I want to add one thing before

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>we jump into it properly. But attraction can be a

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:05.719
<v Speaker 1>very confusing thing. Attraction. You can ask yourself, and I

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 1>want you to think about it. How many times have

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you looked at someone and said, Wow, like I wish

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I was more attracted to them. Why aren't I they're

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 1>perfect on paper? Oh? We've all done that.

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 2>We have absolutely a look at someone been like they

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 2>are bloody perfect for me?

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Like, why don't I want to rip their clothes off?

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>And we usually end up friend zoning they'll be like,

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>oh God, I really just want to like love him,

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>but I don't. And the same thing with when you

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>want to rip someone's clothes off, but you're like, there's

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 1>such a dickhead, Like there are so many red flags here,

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>but I want to climb you like a pole.

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 2>A tree, like a flag pole, like a red flag pole.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are so many types of attraction. There are

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 2>so many reasons that we can be confused about this.

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 2>A lot of things don't make sense, but let's get

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 2>into it. Like Laura said, number one, the first thing

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>you think about when you talk about attraction is sexual attraction.

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 2>And that is when you want to rip someone's clothes off.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 2>That is when you can look at someone on the

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 2>street and say, I want to sleep with you, I

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 2>want to do everything to you, I want you to

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>be all over me. It's when you might have somebody

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 2>in your life. They could be a friend or someone

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.440
<v Speaker 2>else that you know is not good for you. Exactly

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 2>like I just said, but the sexual attraction and the

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 2>chemistry is there even though all the other aspects that

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 2>you are looking for in a relationship are not there.

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>So the one thing I want to say is like

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>when I say this has been kind of heroed is

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<v Speaker 1>the most important thing. It's definitely not. And I don't

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>want anyone to think that we're saying that sex is

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the be all and end all of a relationship. And

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>we have Billy who's coming on the podcast to talk

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>about asexuality and how they navigate their relationship when they

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>are asexual because it's something that they don't experience. Is

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>sexual attraction is not something that they have ever really

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>experienced in their life. But the thing about sexual attraction

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>is that we do kind of when it comes to

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>these romantic relationships, when it comes to like navigating especially

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>new relationships, we do focus so much on is the

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>sex good and are you sexually compatible? And of course

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>there needs to be compatibility in this instance, but if

0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>there isn't compatibility, then obviously communication is next most important thing.

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>The other thing here is is the reason why we're

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>breaking down these different types of attraction is because attraction,

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 1>it can exist in silos. You can experience one type

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>of attraction towards one person, you can experience multiple types

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>of attraction towards one person. And so that's what I

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>mean by like understanding where, how and why you're attracted

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to someone can also help you better navigate is this

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>actually someone I want to be in a relationship with

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>or is this someone who's just for a summer fling.

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>It kind of allows you to unpack and make better

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>decisions around your relationships. Brit how important for you do

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you think or where in this conversation would you prioritize

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>or place sexual attraction.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a funny thing because I think what is happening

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<v Speaker 2>in the world in the last few years with COVID,

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I think it's changed a lot of people's opinions on

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>what's important to them. It's definitely changed the way I

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 2>look at things. But for example, sexual attraction has always

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 2>been a really important factor to me. I have always

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 2>wanted to have that attraction. But I feel like when

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 2>you are initially dating, or you're dating online for example,

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 2>which the world has been doing, all you have at

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 2>the start is attraction.

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>You are literally.

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Swiping right or left to somebody purely based on aesthetics.

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>It's very superficial. There's nothing else to know about them

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>at that point. So of course sexual attraction plays a

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 2>role for me. It is very important. I want to

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>be attracted to them. I want to have sex with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to have those feelings. For me as an individual,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very important.

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<v Speaker 1>It has slightly changed for me and for many other

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<v Speaker 1>people that I've been in contact with, purely the antithesis

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<v Speaker 1>of what I just said because of COVID. Whilst we

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<v Speaker 1>are swiping yes and right to people for esthetics or

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<v Speaker 1>sexual attraction in the beginning, we're now forced to spend

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>more time actually getting to know their personality, the emotional

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>side to them. We get to know depth, we get

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to know what they're about, what they want in life.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like relationships are shifting in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Importance of what we're looking for. People are now getting

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>to know people on another level. That's just the world

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.959
<v Speaker 2>we live in. But for me, all things aside, I

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>want to have that sexual poll Have I dated people

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<v Speaker 2>in the past that I have had that sexual attraction

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<v Speaker 2>to at the start? Yes, one hundred percent. I've spoken

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Before I moved. It was my flatmate. I

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>moved in with somebody overseas. He was Italian. We lived

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<v Speaker 2>together as friends and flatmates for months, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>no attraction to him at all sexually. After I knew

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<v Speaker 2>him for months and I knew how much of a

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 2>beautiful person he was. He was funny, he made me laugh,

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>he cared for me, he was affectionate. All of a sudden,

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 2>that sexual attraction grew. So I think that that's a

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 2>really important thing to note too, about how much priorities

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<v Speaker 2>can shift and change once you get to know other

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<v Speaker 2>parts of a person.

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<v Speaker 1>I think also one of the things about like sexual attraction,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you just said, your sexual attraction grew, I also

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<v Speaker 1>think it's important to note that like sexual attraction can wane,

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>so like over time, you could be completely aesthetically attracted

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to your partner, You could be emotionally and attracted to

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>your partner. You could be romantically attracted to your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry for the spoiler, but there are the other types

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of attraction. But you could be all of those. But

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, in twenty years time, after seeing your partner

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>every day of that you're not sexually attracted to them anymore,

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>And maybe that'll come back. Maybe you need to have

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<v Speaker 1>some more intimacy, maybe you need to be able to

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>spend more time together or reform those connections and bonds.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, I think sexual attraction is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest ones that can ebb and flow. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a static and it's very much influenced by how busy

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you are, how stressed you are, where your relationship's at,

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>how long you've been together for and what time, and

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<v Speaker 1>also emotional connections you're carving out in your day to day.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like it's changed for you at all

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<v Speaker 2>with Matt over the last four or five years.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I am very very sexually attracted to Matt. I always

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<v Speaker 1>have been, but like sexual attraction as the most important

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>form of attraction has definitely waned for me, Like my

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>romantic attraction to Matt and my emotional attraction to Matt.

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>That's what galvanizes our relationship. Like emotional attraction and romantic

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>attraction now have superseded the sexual attraction. And it's not

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>that that doesn't exist. It's one hundred percent still there,

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 1>very tired, but it's still there. But for me, we

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>have formed such an important bond in other areas and

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that's what's taken our relationship from being a relationship that

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>is kind of built on this like desire to being

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>a relationship that's built on a real foundation that I

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>think makes it incredibly hard to rock. You need everything

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>else for the longevity of a relationship totally, and like

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you can be sexually attracted to someone and not act

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>on any of those impulses. Like I'm sure Matt sees

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>hot chicks and is sexually attracted to them, Does it

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>mean that he would ever go and do something. No,

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 1>because we have these other core attractions in a foundation

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>to our relationship. The antithesis of this, like the big

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>conversation to have around sexual attraction, is we can talk

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>about this all day, but what about people who are asexual,

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>who are completely left out of this conversation, who don't

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>experience sexual attraction. We wanted to speak to somebody who

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have sex as a major part of their relationship

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and what does that look like then as a romantic relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>So we did a call out to you guys. Normally,

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<v Speaker 1>when we do a call out on life on cart

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>we receive one hundreds I'm gonna say hundreds, if not

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of applies. Now, when we did the call out

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>to try and find someone who identifies as being asexual,

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>we had about five messages and Billy was somebody who

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>got in touch and the way that they spoke about

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>their experience and how they show up in their relationships

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>was so interesting for us and we are really really

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>excited to have them on the podcast today. So we're

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 1>just going to get into that chat with Billy to

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>unpack asexuality and what that looks like to them. Billy

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>is an og life on cut Listener. They also identify

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>as non binary and asexual, So for us, we really

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 1>wanted to have someone who had lived experience of being

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>asexual to explain what that looks like. Billy, we are

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 1>so stoked to have you here. Can you please explain

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<v Speaker 1>in your own words what is and what does it

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>mean to be asexual?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so asexuality is effectively just a lack of sexual attraction.

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 3>So it's nothing to do with other attraction. You know,

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 3>you can also be a romantic, which is a lack

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 3>of romantic attraction, but asexual is just identifying as having

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<v Speaker 3>a lack of actual attraction to other people.

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<v Speaker 2>And is that something that you have always had? Is

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 2>that something that you didn't figure out until puberty? Is

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>that something that you had for a little while and

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 2>then you were like, actually, I'm doing this because I

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 2>feel like I should not, because I want to, like,

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 2>what did that look like for you?

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<v Speaker 3>For me, I was really interested in sex and everything

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 3>when I was in my early teens, before I had

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 3>lost my virginity. But once I lost my virginity, I

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 3>sort of just didn't see what the fuss was about.

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't like, you know, because when you lose

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 3>your virginity, it's always going to be pretty bad sex,

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.399
<v Speaker 3>but like, no, I just sort of didn't see what

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 3>the fuss was about. And I didn't get it to

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 3>the extent that my peers seemed to really desire sex.

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, I sort of thought everyone

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 3>else might have just been playing it up a bit,

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 3>because you know, we're horny teenagers and et cetera. And

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, I just wouldn't see someone and instantly think like,

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 3>oh wow, I would really love to have sex with them,

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 3>or like you know, develop feelings for someone and be like,

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 3>oh wow, I'd love to have sex with them. It

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 3>just wasn't a thought that crossed my mind, and I

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 3>thought that everyone else might have been more talking about,

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, I really like the way that person looks,

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 3>and that's why they were saying it. I actually also

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 3>assumed I was bisexual for a long time, because there

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 3>was just no difference for me in my attraction to

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:15.280
<v Speaker 3>men and my attraction to women. But that's now I realized,

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 3>because the desire was never really there at all in

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 3>terms of sexual attraction. But the moment of realization for

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:24.360
<v Speaker 3>me was really trying casual sex when I was in UNI,

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 3>trying to have like casual sex with people and realizing that,

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, my friends would talk about how, oh, I

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 3>don't necessarily like the person, but the sex is good,

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 3>so it's fine, And that was just so foreign to

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 3>me because that's not what sex was at all in

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 3>my mind. And then I learned about a sexuality. I

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 3>was actually writing a UNI assignment and had to go

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 3>through you know, the whole LGBTQIA plus spectrum, and I

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 3>came across the definition of a sexuality and it just

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 3>sort of clicked that, like, that was me, and I

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 3>looked into the whole spectrum of aseness and realized that

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 3>that was exactly where I fit. And it resonated with

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 3>me that, yeah, that's how I identify.

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 1>When you say that you felt like your friends might

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:06.359
<v Speaker 1>have been playing it up a bit, do you kind

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of mean how people would be like, oh god, I

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>really want to bone that person or like, oh, like

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I find them so sexy, Like this kind of conversation

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>that's really around the sexual attraction. When you heard your

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 1>friends speaking about it, you're a bit like, what am

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I talking about? Yeah?

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, it wasn't even so much that I was like

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 3>what are they talking about? Because I would look at

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 3>a person and see, like I still very much experience

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 3>aesthetic attraction where I look at someone and I'm like,

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 3>that's a good looking person. Like I look at my

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 3>partner every day and say, damn, that is one fine

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 3>looking human being. But I just never got the I

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:40.399
<v Speaker 3>want to jump into bed with them. Oh I'd love

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 3>to fuck them, like I'd love to have sex with them.

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 3>It just wasn't something that ever resonated with me. It

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 3>was more, yeah, that's a really great looking person. I

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 3>wonder if they'd like to have a conversation. I wonder

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 3>if they'd like to dance with me on the dance floor.

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Like.

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't ever I want to go home and jump

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 3>into bed with them. And I thought that my friends,

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 3>before I realized what a sexuality was and what sexual

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 3>attraction really was, I thought that my friends might have

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 3>been having that same thought but expressing it as damn

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 3>I want to fuck them, or damn I want to

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 3>have sex with them. Well, for me, that just wasn't

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 3>the case.

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's important to note that, and I'll

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 2>ask you about this, but being asexual doesn't mean that

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 2>you lack the other aspects of attraction, because there are

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:27.240
<v Speaker 2>other aspects of attraction, like emotional attraction, esthetic attraction, romantic attraction,

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.280
<v Speaker 2>and all of the others. Absolutely, yeah, there's the whole spectrum.

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Some people don't experience any of those attractions. Some people

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 2>experience one or two. Do you experience all the other ones?

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Do you have the romantic attraction and the aesthetic like

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 2>you like the look of them, things like that?

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:46.879
<v Speaker 3>God, yes, yeah, I am a hopeless romantic during the club. Yeah. Absolutely,

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:53.320
<v Speaker 3>I one hundred percent experience romantic attraction, aesthetic attraction, emotional attraction.

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 3>My partner and I've been together for nearly four years now,

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 3>and we were best friends who fell in love. And

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 3>for me, that was just like the best thing that

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 3>could have ever happened to me because it was that

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 3>perfect romantic fairy tale, and he was so understanding and

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 3>accepting that I have all of those other attractions, and

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I just don't feel the need for sex, Like I

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 3>don't feel the need that sex is a part of

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.800
<v Speaker 3>my relationships. And I am still very sex positive. I

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 3>still do have sex, it's not something that is really

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 3>on my radar in terms of attraction.

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I think this is so interesting because so often we

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>speak about how important sex is in a relationship, and

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's it's such a big overarching conversation

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to relationships, and I feel like if

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you're somebody who sits within, you know, identifying as asexual,

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you kind of get left out of that narrative a

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit. You're constantly being told how important it is,

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>but on the flip side, you're like, well, it's just

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>not that important to me. So then how does that

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>fit my romantic relationships? For you? What impact has been

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>asexual had on your romantic relationships? Is it something that's

0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>been challenging to navigate or is there a lot of

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:00.280
<v Speaker 1>compromise around sex.

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:04.360
<v Speaker 3>There's definitely a lot of compromise. What I would definitely

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 3>say is in the past, before I was more comfortable

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 3>with my identity and my sexuality, I wouldn't have mentioned

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 3>it to a partner. My partner now who I've been

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 3>with for a long time. Is the only partner that

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 3>I've ever been open with about this, because in the past,

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 3>I would just have sex because that's what my partner

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 3>wanted and that was okay, but it wasn't being true

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:29.919
<v Speaker 3>to myself. And now that I'm in a relationship where

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm really open about it, I am comfortable having sex.

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 3>I am comfortable with that, and a lot of asexual

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 3>people aren't. But I'm comfortable doing it. But for me,

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 3>it's about seeing my partner happy. It's something that I

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 3>do because I love to see my partner happy and fulfilled.

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 3>It's not for myself because I actually desire sex. There

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 3>has to be a lot of open and honest communication,

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 3>I think for it to work well. And obviously my

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 3>past relationships haven't lasted, and that would have been a

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 3>very big factor in why, because I was open and

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.879
<v Speaker 3>honest with my partner about what I wanted and what

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 3>I felt. And now that I have a partner who

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 3>I can be open and honest with about this stuff

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 3>and I feel really comfortable talking to about this, we're

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:15.720
<v Speaker 3>able to find a balance. He's not asexual, he's heterosexual,

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:20.879
<v Speaker 3>somewhere along that sort of sphere, and he does enjoy sex,

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 3>and he does have sexual attraction to me and probably

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:25.959
<v Speaker 3>to other people, not that he acts on it, because

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 3>we're in a committed, monogamous relationship. So for that sex

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 3>is just a part of our relationship. That's for him.

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 3>And it blurs that line around sort of what sex

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 3>is because generally it's for mutual benefit, and it is

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 3>still for mutual benefit, like I still get pleasure out

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 3>of sex because it's an inherently pleasurable experience, but it's

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.959
<v Speaker 3>just not something that I desire, So it's for him

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:49.720
<v Speaker 3>to be happy and fulfilled.

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:50.879
<v Speaker 1>And when we.

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Say that sex is you know how Laura said before

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 2>that we say sex is so important in a relationship,

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 2>that is we want to be very clear that is

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 2>very subjective to the individual and the individual relationship. Sex

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 2>is important in a relationship if sex is important to

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.399
<v Speaker 2>the two people in a relationship. And we don't mean

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 2>sex is important that you have to have sex. We

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 2>mean sex is important that you guys be on the

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 2>same wavelength. That's what we want to reiterate in this conversation.

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 2>I guess I question that I'm just interested in with

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 2>when you said in the past you've had sex for

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 2>the sake of having sex, and that's because your partner

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 2>wanted it and you weren't comfortable to tell them you're

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 2>a sexual and that you didn't want it. Obviously, it's

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 2>still consensual because you've consented, but for you, was there

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 2>a level of resentment there when you were doing that?

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 2>We're like, this is fucked, because like, I wish I

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 2>could just be more open and I don't want to

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Did it turn you off at all? Or like, has

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 1>it changed? I guess now that you're in a relationship

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 1>where you're super open and comfortable, has the experience changed

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 1>at all? Or does it still sit the same way

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 1>with you where you're like, I could still never do

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:48.720
<v Speaker 1>this again.

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's a difficult question because a lot

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:55.440
<v Speaker 3>of the time, in the conversation around consent, it's a

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.319
<v Speaker 3>very black and white line. You either want sex, so

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 3>you have sex, or you don't want sex and therefore

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 3>you should not have sex. Asexuality does sort of blur

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:07.839
<v Speaker 3>that line, and I've had friends sort of jump down

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 3>my throat when I've tried to have this discussion with

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 3>them and say, well, if you don't want sex, you

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 3>know then you're not consenting. That's wrong. You shouldn't be

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 3>having sex. And it's not that I don't want sex.

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 3>If I didn't want to do it, I wouldn't and

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 3>my partner would have to be okay with that. And

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 3>in all my previous relationships, I've felt comfortable in that,

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:29.360
<v Speaker 3>because if I didn't want sex, I wouldn't have sex.

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:31.879
<v Speaker 3>It's just that I haven't been able to be open

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 3>and honest about what sex means to me. So in

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.399
<v Speaker 3>those past relationships, I never felt resentment. It's just more

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 3>that I would sort of have to fake this desire

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 3>with my partner. Like you know. Now in my relationship,

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 3>I can say to my partner, Hey, if I've just

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:49.879
<v Speaker 3>completely forgotten about sex for like three weeks, and you're like, hmm,

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 3>I'd kind of like to have sex, remind me. But

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 3>like in previous relationships, if I was just oblivious to

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 3>the fact that my partner might have wanted some physical intimacy,

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 3>I would feel really bad. I'd feel really guilty because

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:06.840
<v Speaker 3>I should have been experiencing that too. I should have

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 3>been experiencing that desire that my partner didn't know that

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't. My partner just thought Oh, well, they're clearly

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 3>not attracted to me anymore. And yeah, that sort of

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:18.919
<v Speaker 3>it does blur that line. But at the same time,

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 3>it's really important for me that if I didn't want

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:24.760
<v Speaker 3>to be having sex, I wouldn't be having sex.

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:27.879
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I asked you, because consent for us,

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 2>it's a very big thing here. I mean, we push

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 2>it in every episode. But the reason I wanted to

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>ask you is because for us, this is uncharted territory.

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 2>When I was doing a lot of reading up about it,

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 2>there were a lot of comments and forums that I

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 2>read having this conversation that you just said about how

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 2>it's very difficult for people on asexual spectrum because there

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 2>is a line like you just described. So I just

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 2>wanted to get it from you someone that's living that situation.

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:52.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like in any situation that I've ever

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 3>been sexually active, the reason that I'm in it is

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 3>because I love pleasuring another person, not because I personally

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.279
<v Speaker 3>desire it to be played in that way. For me,

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 3>the equivalent is like cuddling on the couch or like

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 3>holding hands while we're out and about. Like I don't

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.439
<v Speaker 3>desire past that, but I still actively engage in it

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 3>because my partner wants it and I want to make

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 3>my partner happy. And it does sort of blow that

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 3>line because in a quote unquote normal relationship, not that

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 3>there is any definition of a normal relationship, but a

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 3>normal relationship, that wouldn't be okay to just have sex

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 3>because your partner wants it. But in my situation, that's

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 3>very different in every asexual relationship, if there's something where

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 3>your partner wants it and you want to give your

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 3>partner that pleasure, it's completely okay.

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>This question, I mean, this might be unique to you

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and to your circumstances, but do you think that being

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 1>asexual has enabled you to be better at communicating? Because

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I feel like without communicating this very nuanced aspect of

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 1>your attraction, it would be very easy for your partner

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to feel like you don't love them or you're not

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 1>attracted to them, because we've been conditioned by society that,

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, wanting to have sex is a way that

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>we show our partners appreciation, love and adoration. Do you

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like this has been something that's helped to kind

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 1>of shift your ability to communicate.

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think communication has to be a big

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 3>part of any relationship obviously, and like, I'm very lucky

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 3>that I found a partner who's extremely open minded and

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 3>who can sort of we're very sexually compatible when sex

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 3>is on the table. It's not that we need to

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 3>communicate it all the time because he understands from when

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 3>I've had a proper conversation with him about my sexuality

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:43.879
<v Speaker 3>early in our relationship. That's just the dynamic that we have.

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 3>And he knows that just because I'm not sexually attracted

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 3>to him, it doesn't mean that I don't love him

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 3>to goddamn pieces, Like I don't wake up in the

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 3>morning and be like, damn, that is the man that

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 3>I have chosen to spend my life with. Like he

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 3>knows that I still because we have open communication and

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:05.360
<v Speaker 3>we have romantic attraction, emotional attraction, every other kind of

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 3>attraction is there, and the other way him to me

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.360
<v Speaker 3>there is sexual attraction. And I don't think that we

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 3>would function if there wasn't sexual attraction there because that's

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 3>a part of who he is, but it's just not

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:20.800
<v Speaker 3>a part of who I am. And it's really important

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 3>to have a partner that understands that. And I think

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 3>in a lot of past relationships. My partner would not

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 3>have understood that, and that's why those relationships wouldn't have worked.

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Is there something that you wish people knew more about

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 1>asexuality or if you can teach them something right now,

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>because this is your platform. Any misconceptions or anything that

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>you've come across from maybe friends or family, things that

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>they've not understood or they want to know more, anything

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that you want to share now, and no pressure, no pressure.

0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:52.280
<v Speaker 3>But is there anything that you would like to say?

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes? How about your destigmatizing the world right now? But

0:47:57.920 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be right now. I'll just write this second.

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.720
<v Speaker 3>No, there is one big thing that I always I'm

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 3>chronically ill as well, and something that I have constantly

0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 3>faced is people treating this part of my identity like

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 3>a symptom or something that needs to be fixed. If

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 3>I talk to anyone about it that doesn't understand the

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 3>integral idea of asexuality. If I talk to anyone about

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:25.400
<v Speaker 3>it like that, it always comes back to, well, there

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 3>must be something wrong, like if you don't desire sex,

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 3>there must be something wrong. But low libido, sure, that

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 3>can be a symptom of something. This is entirely separate

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 3>from having a low libido. This is nothing to do

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 3>with my biology. This is nothing to do with me

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:44.279
<v Speaker 3>being unwell. There is nothing wrong with me. It is

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 3>just something that's a part of who I am, and

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:49.839
<v Speaker 3>it's not something that needs to be fixed. Because for

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 3>a long time I thought it was something that needed

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 3>to be fixed. I thought there was something wrong with me.

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 3>And now that I'm comfortable in my identity and i'm able,

0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get emotional talking about this. Now that

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm comfortable in my identity and I'm able to express that,

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 3>it's really important for me that people understand that there's

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:11.959
<v Speaker 3>not something wrong with me. There's not something missing, There's

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 3>not something that i'm I should solve, a problem that

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I should solve. It's a part of who I am

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.719
<v Speaker 3>and it's a part of my identity, and I want

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 3>people to understand that rather than jumping to well, is

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 3>it your birth control? Is it the medication that you're on?

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Is it something that needs to be fixed? Do you

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 3>need to go to therapy for this? Like, no, it's

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:36.160
<v Speaker 3>something I needed to go to therapy to be comfortable

0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 3>with this, not to fix it.

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:40.359
<v Speaker 1>I love you to say that there's absolutely nothing wrong

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:42.840
<v Speaker 1>with you, it's also important to note that for people

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>that are trying to figure this out, like you just said, Billie,

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>there are things like low libido that that could be

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 1>something that could be stemming from something else, or you

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:52.880
<v Speaker 1>might just be asexual. Either one is totally fine, and

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that's something that you need to figure out on your

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:57.479
<v Speaker 1>own or with help, but not from people coming into

0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 1>your face saying there's something wrong with you. Go figure

0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that out. So could not agree more. Also, Billy, like

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, you know, when we did the call out

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 1>for this, like we do normally get so many people

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:09.480
<v Speaker 1>who are going to throw their hands up to have

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>conversations about all weird and wonderful things on this podcast,

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 1>which we love. And I just am so grateful that

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you have come on to share your story, to share

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 1>how you identify how you experience attraction, because I know

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:24.439
<v Speaker 1>that there will be other people listening to this who

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:27.320
<v Speaker 1>feel exactly the same way as you do, but don't

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:30.319
<v Speaker 1>have a word for it, don't have anyone to identify,

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 1>and maybe also in this period of their life where

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 1>they're like, what the fuck is wrong with me? And

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I think like having somebody had these conversations is incredibly

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>powerful and that's the whole reason why we want to

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 1>do them on this platform.

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, and I'm so glad that you guys are

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:45.840
<v Speaker 3>talking about this. I don't know if you know this,

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 3>but about I think two or three weeks ago, there

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 3>was actually an Asexuality Awareness Week and it's part of

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 3>the LGBTQI plus community and it's something that people don't

0:50:57.680 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 3>talk about. So they had a whole week of awareness

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:04.439
<v Speaker 3>when it was you know, Bisexuality Visibility Day, Transvisibility Day.

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:07.320
<v Speaker 3>I saw hundreds of posts. I saw hundreds of people

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 3>putting things out there and saying, hey, it's okay to

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 3>be this way. I did not see anyone other than

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 3>myself and one of my friends who are told about it,

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:19.279
<v Speaker 3>that knew that it was Asexuality Awareness Week. And it's

0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:22.319
<v Speaker 3>just because it's not talked about, because people brush it

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:25.280
<v Speaker 3>off as being something wrong and it's not. You're allowed

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 3>to feel that way.

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Billy, thank you so much for coming on and being

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:29.919
<v Speaker 1>a part of the podcast, and thank you for being

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>a listener from day one.

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh no worries anytime. Girls.

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 1>So the second type of attraction is romantic attraction. Now,

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Billy just touched on that, and it was so interesting.

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:44.440
<v Speaker 1>To get it from somebody first hand that is actually

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 1>going through it can and can explain it a lot

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 1>better than us just reading it off a paper or

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>watching a ted talk on it. But romantic attraction is

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>different to sexual attraction because you don't want to have

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that physical sexuality with your partner, but you still want

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 1>to be very connected to them romantically. You still want

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 1>to have more than a friendship. And it's very important

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to reiterate that it is different from a friendship. You

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:10.319
<v Speaker 1>want to have the closeness, you want to have the

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 1>physical touch and affection, you want to have the emotional contact,

0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to be able to spoon and cuddle. You

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 1>just don't want to have that sexual connection. And I

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 1>think the really important take home from this type of

0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 1>attraction is that this is very different to a friendship.

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:26.280
<v Speaker 1>You might have a friend who you like to cuddle

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:28.120
<v Speaker 1>on the couch and like, you know, they make you

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 1>feel good and you can kind of like have that closeness,

0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 1>but that's not what romantic attraction is. Romantic attraction is

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 1>if you take the sex out of it, think of

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:38.960
<v Speaker 1>a long term couple who maybe for whatever reason, are

0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:41.520
<v Speaker 1>not having sex anymore, but they still deeply love each

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:44.319
<v Speaker 1>other and are deeply connected, or as Billy described it,

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, wanting to be in a committed relationship with

0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:51.319
<v Speaker 1>someone but not having sexual desire. It's basically all the

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 1>other parts of being romantically invested in a partner, but

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:58.719
<v Speaker 1>removing the desire part of the attraction. Okay, the next

0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:00.720
<v Speaker 1>one that we want to talk about is a sthet attraction.

0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 1>And I think for me personally, I don't know. I

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:05.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know if this has changed over time or if,

0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:07.920
<v Speaker 1>like my sexual desire is a bit of sleep at

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the moment. But I can look at other people so

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:12.839
<v Speaker 1>as in like you know, other women, other men, and

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I can go, holy crap, that is a beautiful person.

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Like if I see a guy who ten years ago

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 1>or five years ago I would have dated, I no

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:23.839
<v Speaker 1>longer feel sexually attracted to them. I don't get that

0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:26.239
<v Speaker 1>feeling anymore. But I can look at someone and go,

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm aesthetically attracted to them. Like I can see a

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:30.880
<v Speaker 1>hot guy and I'll be like, yep, me in a

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 1>past life, I absolutely would have been sexually attracted to you,

0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>but now I can just appreciate their aesthetics. Aesthetic attraction

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>is exactly what it sounds like. It's purely being attracted

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to someone based off the way they look. It means

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that somebody who prioritizes aesthetic attraction, they don't care if

0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:48.839
<v Speaker 1>they have a deep connection. They don't care if they're

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:52.120
<v Speaker 1>sexually attracted. All they care about is how hot that

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:54.799
<v Speaker 1>person is to them. And obviously hot is subjective. It

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:57.400
<v Speaker 1>may not be what everybody else sees is attractive, but

0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely just comes down to the way someone looks.

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.319
<v Speaker 1>It's like, think of it when you're a bit shallow. Yeah,

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 1>it is totally, But think of it when you're walking

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:05.759
<v Speaker 1>down the street and you're like, Wow, that's a nice car.

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:07.279
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to go rub up against it. You're like,

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:09.320
<v Speaker 2>that's a nice car, and you keep walking. You recognize

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 2>something that is attractive to you, and that's it. So

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I could be walking down the street exactly like you, Laura.

0:54:14.200 --> 0:54:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I one hundred percent can recognize somebody beautiful. But I

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 2>do it with females too. I probably do it with

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 2>females more. I will look at a female on the

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 2>street and I'll be like, holy smokes, she is stunning,

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:27.319
<v Speaker 2>she is beautiful. I don't want to be touched by her.

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:28.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't want touch her, I don't want to jump

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:30.880
<v Speaker 2>her bones. It's purely recognition or something I think is

0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:34.239
<v Speaker 2>aesthetically beautiful to me, subjective, and then I get on

0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 2>with my day, don't think about it again.

0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:38.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm curious about this because obviously, like all of

0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:41.719
<v Speaker 1>these types of attractions live on a spectrum, right, Like,

0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 1>there will be some people who you are hugely aesthetically

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:46.760
<v Speaker 1>attracted to, there will be some people who you're hugely

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:48.920
<v Speaker 1>sexually attracted to, and then there'll be some people that

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you aren't at all, And everybody lies on some sort

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of spectrum towards that. So I guess the whole idea

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:57.280
<v Speaker 1>around aesthetic attraction is like how important is that to you?

0:54:57.320 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Can you be sexually attracted to someone who you're not

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:02.719
<v Speaker 1>actually physically attracted to? Can you be emotionally attracted to

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:04.920
<v Speaker 1>someone who you're not physically attracted to? And then this

0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of links into the whole attraction conversation that we

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:09.840
<v Speaker 1>had on the very first episode of this where we said, like,

0:55:10.320 --> 0:55:12.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, can you have sex with someone who you

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 1>are not physically attracted to? Yes? Does that physical aesthetic

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 1>attraction grow over time? And we did a really good

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:20.319
<v Speaker 1>deep dive on that in the first app So we're

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:21.680
<v Speaker 1>not going to get into that now, but I think

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 1>like it's important to know that when we say that

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 1>there are these different four types of attraction, none of

0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:28.440
<v Speaker 1>them are better than others, none of them are right

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 1>or wrong. It's just that we all show up into

0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:33.920
<v Speaker 1>this world very differently, and we all attach ourselves to

0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:37.880
<v Speaker 1>our partners and fall in love based on very different attributes.

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 1>And the things that I prioritize that make me attracted

0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 1>to someone will be very different to the things that

0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Britt is attracted to or that you were attracted to.

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:47.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of like where this all stems from.

0:55:47.040 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Except when we both dated the same person accidentally, Yeah.

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Attraction was the same. Then I feel like that was

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 1>just aesthetic attraction for both of us, like a wet

0:55:57.080 --> 0:56:01.280
<v Speaker 1>cardboard boy. He was so fucking hot and so boring. Anyway, Okay,

0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:04.240
<v Speaker 1>let's get into number four. Number four is emotional attraction.

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that this is something that is important to

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:08.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. Emotional attraction. It is when you

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:12.359
<v Speaker 1>have a strong and comfortable base with someone where you

0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:16.760
<v Speaker 1>feel safe in sharing who you are, you share similar ideologies,

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you can talk about your belief systems. You can talk

0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:22.560
<v Speaker 1>about your values and your morals. That's where emotional connection

0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and emotional attraction comes from.

0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and appreciating somebody's personality or their morals or something

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:31.879
<v Speaker 2>else about them that is not just esthetics. Doesn't mean

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:33.920
<v Speaker 2>you have to have the romantic feelings as well. So

0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 2>like you just said, Laura, where you said, I'm interested

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 2>in knowing, like, can you have one without the other? Absolutely,

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:41.320
<v Speaker 2>you can have all of these if you're lucky enough

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:44.320
<v Speaker 2>to have all four of these attractions, bing go. But

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:48.120
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty rare that your partner will tick every single box.

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:49.520
<v Speaker 2>You could have one of them, you could have two

0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:50.840
<v Speaker 2>of them, you can have three, you can have a

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:55.360
<v Speaker 2>whole different mix. Now, Rachel Perlstein, she's a license psychotherapist.

0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 2>She says, whether it's because of their sense of humor,

0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:01.479
<v Speaker 2>shared interests, or just the way they make you feel

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:06.200
<v Speaker 2>validated and heard, this emotional attraction really reflects this sometimes

0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:09.680
<v Speaker 2>instatability to relate on a different level and connect to

0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:11.440
<v Speaker 2>feel understood and cared about.

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Now, I cannot tell you.

0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you know, if you are lucky enough

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:18.160
<v Speaker 2>to be in that relationship. But there is nothing that

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 2>makes you feel better than feeling seen and heard in

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 2>a relationship Above all else, feeling like you have that

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 2>connection that someone says to you, I get you, I'm

0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 2>here for you, I'm listening, I understand you.

0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 1>That is so powerful in building a connection, a romantic connection. Yeah,

0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:35.440
<v Speaker 1>it's feeling understood, isn't it. I also think that this

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:39.320
<v Speaker 1>whole idea of emotional attraction really lends itself to soulmate ideology.

0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Like if you're someone who's a big believer in having

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 1>multiple soulmates or one soulmate, whatever it is that you believe,

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:48.440
<v Speaker 1>if you feel a soulmate connection with someone, it's because

0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:52.240
<v Speaker 1>you have extremely high emotional attraction and connection to that person,

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>because that's when you feel understood. And I think feeling

0:57:54.960 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 1>understood in a relationship, like you said, is one of

0:57:56.800 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>the most important things. Yeah, and it's important to note

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:01.040
<v Speaker 1>that for some people, but not.

0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Everyone, experiencing sexual attraction doesn't happen without emotional attraction. Some

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 2>people just will not be able to have that sexual

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.880
<v Speaker 2>attraction if there's no other connection there. Some people can

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 2>go and have the sexual attraction without anything else there.

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:15.120
<v Speaker 1>That is so fine.

0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:17.480
<v Speaker 2>There is no right or wrong, but there is definitely

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:19.760
<v Speaker 2>a whole realm of people that need to feel that connection.

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 2>They need to feel seen and heard before they can

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 2>have a sexual relationship.

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:25.640
<v Speaker 1>There is also another subset to this as well. Once again,

0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 1>people sit on a spectrum to this, but it's this

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 1>idea of intellectual attraction. You know, you might be incredibly

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:35.680
<v Speaker 1>intellectually attracted to someone because their opinions and their political

0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:38.960
<v Speaker 1>views and how they see the world. Their philosophies really

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 1>challenge your perspective and make you feel smart. Basically, it

0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:45.040
<v Speaker 1>make you feel like you are a better person by

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:47.600
<v Speaker 1>being around them. When we were doing our research into this,

0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:51.200
<v Speaker 1>intellectual attraction can sometimes be separated out as like a

0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:53.720
<v Speaker 1>fifth form of attraction, but it really does kind of

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 1>interconnect into this whole emotional attraction. Well, that is literally

0:58:57.120 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the perfect segue, Laura, because I want to talk about

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the different types of seexualities that can impact attraction. Alongside

0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the traditional orientations of homosexuality, heterosexuality, bisexuality. We're going to

0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 1>look at a few of those and how they relate

0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:12.720
<v Speaker 1>to emotional and physical attraction. But in regards to what

0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 1>you were just saying, let's start with attraction to intelligence

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:17.800
<v Speaker 1>because that's what you were just talking about. It has

0:59:17.840 --> 0:59:21.160
<v Speaker 1>a name, it is sapio sexual or sapio sexuality, and

0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that is literally, when you have an attraction to intelligence,

0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you one hundred percenty to be with someone that is

0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:28.440
<v Speaker 1>on an intellectual level. For you to have any other

0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:32.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of relationship, there is a big difference with just

0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:35.160
<v Speaker 1>wanting to be with somebody smart. So one of us saying, hey,

0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm attracted to intelligence. We're all attracted to a level

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:42.560
<v Speaker 1>of intelligence. What differentiates us from a sapio sexual is

0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that they cannot have an attraction to somebody that isn't

0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 1>on the intellectual level. Yeah. Absolutely, I think that that's

0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:50.840
<v Speaker 1>like the big defining factor. And like we'll get into

0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:52.920
<v Speaker 1>that in regards to like when we talk about like

0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:55.960
<v Speaker 1>we did with Billy asexuality, when we talk about demisexuality.

0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:58.920
<v Speaker 1>These terms are coined for people who sit on the

0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 1>extreme end of the spectrum, which is attraction. You know,

1:00:02.520 --> 1:00:06.040
<v Speaker 1>for somebody who can only have a sexual or romantic

1:00:06.120 --> 1:00:10.160
<v Speaker 1>relationship with someone because they find them intelligent. That is

1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:12.400
<v Speaker 1>somebody who may be more inclined to identify as being

1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:15.640
<v Speaker 1>sapio sexual. For somebody who is sapio sexual, all of

1:00:15.640 --> 1:00:19.360
<v Speaker 1>those other types of attraction I eat, sexual, romantic, and

1:00:19.600 --> 1:00:24.280
<v Speaker 1>esthetic grow and develop purely because they had that intellectual

1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:27.000
<v Speaker 1>connection and that intellectual attraction. So that's what I think

1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:29.680
<v Speaker 1>is like the thing that separates and sets them apart.

1:00:29.960 --> 1:00:31.760
<v Speaker 1>The next one that we wanted to unpack is something

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:33.880
<v Speaker 1>that maybe some of you heard of it, maybe you haven't.

1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:37.920
<v Speaker 1>It's called demi sexual. So demisexual is somebody who experiences

1:00:37.960 --> 1:00:41.640
<v Speaker 1>sexual attraction only when they feel a true emotional bond

1:00:41.680 --> 1:00:43.640
<v Speaker 1>with another person. And this is what I guess what

1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:45.080
<v Speaker 1>we were just kind of touched on a little bit

1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:47.640
<v Speaker 1>with the last part as well, this idea of feeling

1:00:47.640 --> 1:00:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that real soulmate connection. Someone who's demisexual would probably be

1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:54.480
<v Speaker 1>opposed to having one night stance. They're probably not going

1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to be someone who's out there being like, oh, I

1:00:55.960 --> 1:00:58.760
<v Speaker 1>want to jump that person's bones, because for them, and

1:00:58.800 --> 1:01:02.240
<v Speaker 1>for somebody who truly identivies as being demisexual, they need

1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:06.360
<v Speaker 1>to develop a really strong emotional bond to be able

1:01:06.400 --> 1:01:09.080
<v Speaker 1>to have the other facets of attraction to grow. Yeah,

1:01:09.120 --> 1:01:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and this is.

1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Really interesting to look at because there are a lot

1:01:12.200 --> 1:01:15.840
<v Speaker 2>of us who won't develop that strong emotional bond until

1:01:15.840 --> 1:01:18.280
<v Speaker 2>we've had the physicality. So I don't know about you,

1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:22.120
<v Speaker 2>but think of how much closer for me, I feel

1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:24.960
<v Speaker 2>closer to somebody once I've had a physical relationship with them.

1:01:25.000 --> 1:01:26.960
<v Speaker 2>That's how it comes for me. Like, you know, is

1:01:26.960 --> 1:01:28.760
<v Speaker 2>it the chicken or the egg? That's the question for me.

1:01:29.440 --> 1:01:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Once I start to have some physicality with somebody, I

1:01:31.640 --> 1:01:35.440
<v Speaker 2>definitely feel a bond, where for a demisexual, they can't

1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:37.880
<v Speaker 2>have the physical relationship until they've got the bond.

1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:40.600
<v Speaker 1>It's so actually when you say that, I'm like, oh no, well,

1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Matt and I we never had sex before we were

1:01:42.520 --> 1:01:44.480
<v Speaker 1>like fully committed to each other because obviously, like on

1:01:44.520 --> 1:01:47.720
<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor, we weren't able to but the attraction was

1:01:47.760 --> 1:01:51.280
<v Speaker 1>still there, the sexual attraction still existed. And what demisexual

1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:55.040
<v Speaker 1>means is that there is zero sexual attraction until the

1:01:55.040 --> 1:01:58.240
<v Speaker 1>emotional bond is formed. So maybe like the perfect situation

1:01:58.320 --> 1:02:00.040
<v Speaker 1>for this would be falling in love with a friend,

1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, falling in love with somebody who you've already

1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:04.920
<v Speaker 1>managed to build that connection with and build the history

1:02:04.920 --> 1:02:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and the stories, and then that's where the love grows from.

1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:10.920
<v Speaker 2>The last one we wanted to touch on is pan sexual.

1:02:11.000 --> 1:02:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Now we did have someone amazing lined up that we

1:02:12.920 --> 1:02:16.000
<v Speaker 2>were going to speak to all about pan sexuality what

1:02:16.040 --> 1:02:19.000
<v Speaker 2>that looks like for them, but unfortunately they were ill

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<v Speaker 2>and had to cancel at the very last minute, so

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<v Speaker 2>we weren't able to have them on the podcast. But

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<v Speaker 2>pan sexuality is sexual, romantic, or emotional attraction towards people, anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of their sex or gender.

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<v Speaker 1>It's across the board. You are attracted to somebody because

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<v Speaker 1>you're attracted to them. It's gender blind. Gender is completely

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<v Speaker 1>irrelevant to pan sexuality. Pen Sexuality is based on the

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<v Speaker 1>essence of that person, not on their genitalia or who

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<v Speaker 1>they identify as. That's completely irrelevant from those that we've

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<v Speaker 1>spoken to who are pan sexual. The one identifying factor

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<v Speaker 1>for this as well is that esthetic attraction isn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>something that sits in the highest forms of priority when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to attraction, because gender and sex are not

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<v Speaker 1>determining factors. And why we wanted to unpack these types

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<v Speaker 1>of attractions and how they interconnect to different types of

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<v Speaker 1>sexualities is because things like pan sexuality, demisexuality, sapo sexuality, asexuality,

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<v Speaker 1>a romantic all of the above, they get very little

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<v Speaker 1>airtime in this conversation and when we say LGBTQI plus,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the plus. And I think what really struck

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<v Speaker 1>us when we had this conversation with Billy is that

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many people who don't feel visibility, and

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<v Speaker 1>when there's a lack of visibility, there's this feeling of like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with me? I don't kind of fit into

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<v Speaker 1>any category. Not that fitting into a category is the

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<v Speaker 1>most important thing, but I think sometimes having an awareness

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<v Speaker 1>around the fact that we all view attractions, that we

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<v Speaker 1>all can like form relationships and prioritize different things is

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<v Speaker 1>really important. And then on top of that, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>invalidate the relationship, and it's important for us to be

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<v Speaker 1>accepting of the full spectrum of how people show up

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<v Speaker 1>in their relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned so much from my conversation with Billy. I

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<v Speaker 2>learned so much from our research, and I really really

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<v Speaker 2>hope that you guys took something from this episode today

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<v Speaker 2>and you can relate it back to your own situation,

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<v Speaker 2>your own relationships, maybe how you look at other people,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe how you see other people, and maybe how you

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<v Speaker 2>look at your past relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, this was just like opening a can of worms

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<v Speaker 1>for me. And on top of that, as well, like

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of looking into other people's relationships but without judgment.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what's important to us isn't necessarily important to

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<v Speaker 1>other people. They think the last thing for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>what I learned about this whole attraction conversation is that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's important to dissect why you're attracted to someone,

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<v Speaker 1>to also dissect whether they are a good life partner

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<v Speaker 1>and a good choice because they're probably not. A sman.

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain was definitely not a good choice. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>was for a fun time, but he wasn't even good

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<v Speaker 1>for a fun time, That's right. I hope you enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>the episode, but you know we don't finish without our

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<v Speaker 1>suck and our sweet our highlight now lowlight the best

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<v Speaker 1>and the worst thing to happen to us this week, Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to kick it off with your suck?

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't thought about it. I haven't thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>What was my suck?

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, you know my suck was suck. Was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in a four hour traffic jam coming back from Jirowa

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<v Speaker 1>last week. And I know I complained about it on

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<v Speaker 1>batchun Cup, but I'm gonna complain again. I love that

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<v Speaker 1>so much. It was so bad with two kids in

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<v Speaker 1>the car screaming. Honestly, we got to Mount Oosley. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're from Wollongong, you know what that is. Nutt Ousley

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<v Speaker 1>is like the one road out of Woollongong to get

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<v Speaker 1>to Sydney. You can then drive to Bulair Pass if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to. I'm gonna give you guys a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a geography lesson. Anyway, it was bumper to bumper

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<v Speaker 1>from Woollongong all the way to the top of Blair Pass,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the end of it, I was like, really

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<v Speaker 1>reconsidering my life choices around wanting to have a sad child.

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<v Speaker 2>You were like, maybe I should have just camped in

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<v Speaker 2>my lounge room as opposed to driving ten hours away

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<v Speaker 2>for a three hour away weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>It was honestly, like, I know, like every time you

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<v Speaker 1>go traveling with children, you think you've got great ambitions

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<v Speaker 1>around creating memories, but really it's just very stressful, that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm realizing. It's got this recurrent theme that

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<v Speaker 1>traveling with children is stressful. What's your sweet, my sweetest radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it totally stole my sweet We can have

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<v Speaker 2>the same I know, we definitely have the same week

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<v Speaker 2>this week.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I have been so loving you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>been sending me screenshots or both of us screenshots of

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who's been voting for the People's Choice or listen

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<v Speaker 1>to Choice Awards for the Australian Podcast. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't voted yet for the Australian Podcast Awards for Life

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<v Speaker 1>on cart this is like your friendly reminder, please go

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<v Speaker 1>and do it. But honestly, every single person who has

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<v Speaker 1>sent me a screenshot told me that they're voted. I

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<v Speaker 1>am so so grateful. I here my suck o. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm also grateful, but I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>reiterate what you just said. My suck is one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent the Daily Mail saying that my butt jeans.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying that Jordan was disgusted by my sinki Bartleg Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the hat's off to you, Daily Mail. You really outdid

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<v Speaker 2>yourself on how does it.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel to be on the other side of the bad article?

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<v Speaker 1>Because usually you laugh at me or you're like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>that sucks my bad articles.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I do get the bad articles, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>get them to the level you have. I've probably had

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<v Speaker 2>one that's up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon, This takes a cake. This is worse than

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<v Speaker 1>your pinky and the sinky. This is one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand, frank combining. They've taken like one time in

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<v Speaker 1>Peter my sentence, put it to another, moved it around,

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<v Speaker 1>did a shimmy, and then they've got this headline and like,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you you are forgetting. You were forgetting the article

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<v Speaker 1>that came out, which was Laura's weird sex confession, how

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about my boyfriend pissing on me, which didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone I talked about something that happened that was non consensual,

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<v Speaker 1>and Daily Mail made it sound like, yeah, that was bad,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted it, which is wrong on so many levels

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<v Speaker 1>that we're not even going to get into it because

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<v Speaker 1>that's an episode in itself, unpacking how women are portrayed

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<v Speaker 1>in the media. Yes, because I also said a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other cute nicknames. But they didn't take that and

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<v Speaker 1>put that in the headline. They didn't say Jordan calls

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<v Speaker 1>Britney CUTI butt. They didn't take that. They just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't keep it. So what my suite for the

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<v Speaker 1>week is obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>The radio again, like we are just we cannot tell

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<v Speaker 2>you how schuffs we are to be able to take

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<v Speaker 2>this to another platform. And don't worry, we are still

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<v Speaker 2>bringing you the Tuesday and Thursday episodes. We're even going

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<v Speaker 2>to slot in the radio segment into our pod past library,

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<v Speaker 2>so you will get those episodes too if you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen or if you miss them on the radio. But

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<v Speaker 1>also we'd like you to listen to the radio live

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<v Speaker 1>so that we have good ratings, because like that's important.

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<v Speaker 1>We really need good ratings in the first six months team,

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<v Speaker 1>So if everyone can tune in, even if you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>just have it on your computer streaming in the background. Anyway, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that is it from me and stinky butt over here,

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<v Speaker 1>and well I keep thinking of stinky pay next week.

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