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Speaker 1: Powered by the radio WAPP from ninety six AIRVM to

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Speaker 1: whereever you're listening today, This is Clezy and Lisa's podcast.

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Speaker 2: Set me up on the podcast today, continuing our dell

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Speaker 2: back into the year nineteen eighty four, we're joined by

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Speaker 2: Andy McCluskey from Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark.

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Speaker 1: Lots of people called to talk about the worst speech

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Speaker 1: they've ever heard, beno'chet reviews Kingdom of the Planet of

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Speaker 1: the Apes, and Nick Afower from Renth The.

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Speaker 2: Musical Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark have sold over forty

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Speaker 2: million albums and recorded some of the most iconic sounds

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Speaker 2: and songs of the nineteen eighties. In nineteen eighty four,

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Speaker 2: the band released it's fifth studio album, Junk Culture, and

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Speaker 2: Today a nineteen eighty four special guest is omd's Andy McCluskey.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Mally, welcome, thank you, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: To both of you. Lovely to speak to you.

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Speaker 2: You too, now, treat Can we start with the name

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Speaker 2: of the band. I know you've more often been called

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Speaker 2: OMD quite a formal person, and I've all I always

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Speaker 2: tried to call you Orchestral Maneuvers.

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Speaker 4: In the Dark. Where did that name come from I approve.

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Speaker 3: Of the formula.

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Speaker 4: Yes I am I drive other people crazy, but yes

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Speaker 4: I am like that.

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Speaker 1: No you don't.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what? Way way back in nineteen seventy eight,

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Speaker 3: when Paul Humphreys and I decided we were going to

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Speaker 3: Liverpool called Erics, we thought, well, we're going to be

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Speaker 3: playing songs that even our best friends don't like, and

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Speaker 3: they're electronic and everybody else is doing. We need a

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Speaker 3: weird name. We need a name that says we're not punk,

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Speaker 3: we're not rock, we're not discovered. And so we frankly

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Speaker 3: picked the most preposterous name we could think of, because

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Speaker 3: it didn't matter. We were going to do one gig,

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Speaker 3: and here we are, forty five.

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Speaker 2: Years later, preposterously celebrated that she wasn't That would have

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Speaker 2: been a good band name too.

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Speaker 1: Prepostero, preposterous. It's a good one for Pickle on radio.

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Speaker 1: But is it true that you know that that time

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Speaker 1: you didn't? You might really didn't. Well, they were loving

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Speaker 1: the rock stuff. They were the Eagles and Pink Floyd

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Speaker 3: It was certainly the electronic music was very alternative at

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Speaker 3: nobody saw the electronic thing coming. We didn't either, you know,

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Speaker 3: we were just going to do one gig and then

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Speaker 3: of electronic British synthpop which took over the world.

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Speaker 2: That was I was so inspired by your music when

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Speaker 2: I was in high school because first of all, I

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Speaker 2: learnt history from an Ola Gay.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that Plaine was gone, so there's a tick.

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Speaker 2: And then we were doing a play about Joan of

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Speaker 2: that was that was quite the coincidence.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad to have been of service the word much.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I lived and learned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, tell us about recording the album Junk Culture

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Speaker 2: and that's that was nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 3: Four, Yes, indeed. Well, and the crazy thing was that

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Speaker 3: It was perhaps a little bit experimental, bit ahead of

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Speaker 3: But it didn't stop having fun. We went all over

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Speaker 1: hair helped to make that is well. Surely with it. Look,

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Speaker 1: And destroyed by Yes, and tell us about a long

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Speaker 3: Well listen for those who don't know, Winston currently resides

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Speaker 3: behind glass in the Museum of Liverpool. No, yes, it's

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Speaker 2: and such, I read, Is this true that a prominent

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Speaker 2: reason for your reformation was so your kids could see

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Speaker 3: Then when and did other things in one of which

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Speaker 3: That was seventeen years ago, and we haven't stopped since

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Speaker 1: Family. Yes, gone full circle because it were you guys

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Speaker 1: about sixteen or seventeen when you wrote Electricity. All those

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Speaker 3: It was basically the first song we ever wrote together,

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Speaker 2: the mid eighties was one of the greatest times in music.

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Speaker 4: What were you listening to in nineteen eighty four?

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Speaker 3: Do you know what twenty four were great?

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Speaker 3: What nineteen eighty four was a great year? Albums? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I spent the whole year and Frankie says, relaxed

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Speaker 2: Well, we can't wait to see you after almost forty years,

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Speaker 1: Thank you both very very much, and I'll see you

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Speaker 1: There's Andy here, bring your bay.

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Speaker 1: We were just mentioning how people hate many people hate

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Speaker 10: Great investors are open minded and understand things before other people.

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Speaker 4: Less? My favorite a little bit of a dumb as

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Speaker 4: a bucket of rocks.

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Speaker 1: My favorite was everywhere like such as now, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure that she was just trying to find some words

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Speaker 1: to fill in this place.

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Speaker 4: I knew it wasn't going to be good when she said.

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Speaker 4: I personally believe when she.

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Speaker 1: Started, I was thinking time as the cogs started turning

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Speaker 1: quite slowly.

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Speaker 2: I reckon that that was I mean, now I sound

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Speaker 2: like I reckon that she thought she was going to

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Speaker 2: get a different question, had something prepped, and.

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Speaker 1: I reckon, you're giving her a big out there.

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Speaker 2: It was made us love, made me laugh as much

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Speaker 2: as that woman on Judge Duty that time when Udge

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Speaker 2: Judy said, it's not rocket science, what's rocks?

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Speaker 1: And she said, that's all that's.

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Speaker 2: A scientific Anyway, we want to talk about the worst

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Speaker 2: speech you've ever heard.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it wasn't a wedding.

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Speaker 1: They can get him better.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it was you could refresh our memories about some

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Speaker 2: award speeches.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to let you finish, and it can be

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Speaker 1: embarrassing if it's Uncle Wall and he's going for thirty

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Speaker 1: seven minutes.

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Speaker 4: Get uncle, Oh, let have a drink.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's had several drinks, just to Dutch courage.

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Speaker 4: Try and Canning vowel. What's the worst speech you've heard?

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Speaker 11: It have to be Donald Trump inciting his people to

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Speaker 11: write and storm the White House.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty untidy, wasn't it. Yeah it was not good. Then, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you met that bloke. He might be president again in

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Speaker 1: six months.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, hopefully not.

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Speaker 11: It will end up blowing the world up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he is a loose cannon. But I tell you what,

478
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Speaker 4: I will not be surprised if he gets back.

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Speaker 2: In because a lot of people that love him and

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Speaker 2: I thought out there, but yeah, thank you try.

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Speaker 4: It's not good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you trying all the best.

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Speaker 2: There were moments where I really felt like I was

484
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Speaker 2: on some kind of intergalactic candid camera while Donald Trump

485
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Speaker 2: was in power. Some of the things that he would

486
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Speaker 2: say and do and that people just thought nothing of,

487
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Speaker 2: just bizarre.

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Speaker 4: And that was definitely one of those moments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. And never took responsibility for us in

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Speaker 1: the worlds an even more precarious position right now with

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Speaker 1: the idea of Trump being president anyway, we digress, but

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Speaker 1: we are talk him and that was a terrible thing

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Speaker 1: to say. Dreadful speech. But you may have heard one

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Speaker 1: that was closer to home.

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Speaker 4: Will in Belcatta.

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Speaker 3: Hello, well, hey guys, how I am good.

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Speaker 4: What's the worst speech you've heard.

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Speaker 8: I went to a wedding once and the father of

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Speaker 8: the bride got up to do his little thing, and

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Speaker 8: it was just a one sentence speech. He got up

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Speaker 8: and said, Confucius said, the only true love is between

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Speaker 8: a parent and child, which we can all agree with.

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Speaker 8: But when you meet that someone specially, you may start

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Speaker 8: out with what you think is love. But when that page,

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Speaker 8: you just learned to tolerate each other.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he actually said that on the day tolerated.

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Speaker 3: He did say that on the day.

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Speaker 4: Wow, please judge your glasses. Here's to tolerating toleration.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure there's a few people out there that tolerate

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Speaker 8: each other.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure there are.

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Speaker 1: Was he married at the time, He was very married

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Speaker 1: for about over thirty forty years.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, I guess he's just trying to say, you know, that,

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Speaker 2: ease them into the knowledge that it won't last in

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Speaker 2: that wedding day, feeling forever moving through.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let him have.

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Speaker 6: That j.

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Speaker 1: How to go down in the room though, Will, was

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Speaker 1: it a bit normal?

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Speaker 8: There was an awkward silence.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, thanks, thanks Will, Thanks Peter and Caramel.

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Speaker 4: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? My one.

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Speaker 6: No disrespect to the person because he was a good teller.

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Speaker 6: But Cal Bruton I used to be a coach for

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Speaker 6: under fifteen Steam and we thought it'd be a good

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Speaker 6: idea to get Carol Bruton the X Wow and have

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Speaker 6: a chat to the boys. And he started his speech

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Speaker 6: off with a word. I think word was integrity or

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Speaker 6: something like that. Yeah, and then he picked every letter

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Speaker 6: in that word and started talking about something relating to

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Speaker 6: the letter. And and he went on for probably about

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Speaker 6: forty minutes, right, and the boys were just had enough.

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Speaker 6: They wanted to see the back of him. And then

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Speaker 6: he started on a second word and the same process.

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Speaker 6: I have to say, that was the worst speech I've

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Speaker 6: ever heard.

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Speaker 1: The second one wasn't a super cal that's our speech

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Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, he was a good fellow and a

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Speaker 1: legend of the game. Pick his rot speech for the audience.

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Speaker 6: No, no, definitely not. But it was a great It

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Speaker 6: was a good night for the boys until then after them.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Peter, Thanks, thanks very much.

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Speaker 4: Anthony and Ellen bo good morning.

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Speaker 11: It was actually at his wedding and he proceeded a

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Speaker 11: standard and have two bits of paper, and he says,

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Speaker 11: let me tell you the bad points and the good

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Speaker 11: points about my new bride. So he dropped the first

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Speaker 11: bit of paper and went to the floor and it

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Speaker 11: had line for line all the things he thought were

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Speaker 11: her bad points, and he read them all out. Then

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Speaker 11: he's dropped the second bit of paper and just had

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Speaker 11: six written on it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and that's a good point.

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Speaker 11: And you could have heard a pin drop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, her family did it last that first night?

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Speaker 4: You could have heard a pin drop then too.

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Speaker 1: The moment. Wow, But I obviously thought that was really

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Speaker 1: funny when he was.

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Speaker 11: Prepared, it was hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Second opinion, boys, second opinion.

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Speaker 1: Thanks the Sure Report.

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Speaker 5: On ninety six am.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Spacey has to return to the UK to fight

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Speaker 2: sexual assault charges.

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Speaker 4: A civil case.

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Speaker 2: Has been brought by a man who claims space he

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Speaker 2: assaulted him in two thousand and eight. Last year, Spasey

570
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Speaker 2: was found not guilty of nine criminal charges in the UK.

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Speaker 2: Four men had made allegations against the actor in that case. Now,

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Speaker 2: we were very sad yesterday to hear that Ignacious Jones

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Speaker 2: has died. Jones was such a unique performer who went

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Speaker 2: on to become a journalist and an events director, working

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Speaker 2: on things like the opening and closing ceremonies of the

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Speaker 2: Sydney Olympics. But from nineteen seventy six to nineteen eighty two,

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Speaker 2: Ignacious Jones was Jimmy and the Boys. They had some

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Speaker 2: great songs and did some great covers of other great

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Speaker 2: songs like the Stones Get Off of My Cloud.

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Speaker 4: How you know?

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Speaker 2: I mean for someone to be able to do a

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Speaker 2: Stones cover and it not sounded like the Stones, It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: They had their only top ten hit in nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 2: By the mid eighties, Jones was part of Pardon Me Boys,

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Speaker 2: a cabaret swing band with his syste Monica Trapaga, who

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Speaker 2: was also on Play School.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I loved Pardon Me Boys. That used to go

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Speaker 4: a good workout with my hair brush. Really you're singing

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Speaker 4: into it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ignacious Jones was sixty seven All the Good Ones Going

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Speaker 2: Way too. A spin off of the Office has been confirmed,

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Speaker 2: and none of the characters from the classic series will

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Speaker 2: be featured in the new version, but the concept is

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Speaker 2: the same. Greg Daniels, who developed the American version of

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Speaker 2: the Office, will be one of the executive producers.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the American version was a patch on

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Speaker 4: the English version.

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Speaker 1: Seeing the American one, that show was all about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and Succession star Jeremy Strong. Kendall Roy is in

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Speaker 2: talks to play Bruce Springsteen's manager John Landau Wow in

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Speaker 2: the upcoming movie about the Boss. The movie is called

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Speaker 2: Deliver Me from Nowhere. It's about the making of Springsteen's

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two album Nebraska. Jeremy Allen White from The

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Speaker 2: Bear is playing Bruce.

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Speaker 1: Yeah from The Bear to the Boss. Unreal and what

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Speaker 1: a pair of actors to be involved. Absolutely really more

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Speaker 1: Clezy more Lisa More Podcastson.

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Speaker 2: Rent has It's been launched at His Majesty's Theater from

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Speaker 2: this Saturday night. It's on until made the twenty fifth.

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Speaker 2: Tickets are through rent Musical dot com dot au. Nika Fower,

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Speaker 2: players Collins and joins us. This morning, Hello, morning, morning,

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Speaker 2: coming in because you've really only just got to town

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Speaker 2: and you're happy with the weather.

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Speaker 4: It's warm for this time of the year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. I born and raised in Auckland, New

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Speaker 5: Zealand and so if you've heard, you know, we have

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Speaker 5: four seasons and one day back home and it's very

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Speaker 5: I never felt this year, never felt this warm in me.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, when you get off a plane or

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Speaker 1: when you're on a plane you're being a vocalist with

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Speaker 1: a beautiful tenor do you get worried about getting bugs

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Speaker 1: because I got back from holidays recently and I got

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Speaker 1: six straight away. You get paranoid or what do you do?

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Speaker 5: Definitely, it's definitely a thing. You know, you're on the

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Speaker 5: plane and you hear a cough about five a rose

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Speaker 5: up and you're, okay, stay away from that. But you

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Speaker 5: just get you get used to trying to, you know,

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Speaker 5: cover up sound, size the hands, and if it hits you,

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Speaker 5: hits you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 5: And even if it does, you find ways to sort

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Speaker 5: of sing, sing around.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm wearing the mask on a plane

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Speaker 2: is such a bad idea. Now, probably onto something there

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Speaker 2: Now in a nutshell, can you tell us what Rent

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Speaker 2: is about?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: It's Rent was a show written in the nineties by

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Speaker 5: the wonderful, brilliant mind of Jonathan Larson, and it just

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Speaker 5: surrounds a lot of these characters who live in a

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Speaker 5: bahemian community who are trying to get through life and

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Speaker 5: searching for love, not just relationships but within themselves, and

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Speaker 5: and facing some really real raw situations of the time.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's a there's a drugs epidemic, there was

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Speaker 5: the aids epidemic of the nineties and which you know,

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Speaker 5: which sweeps sort of the colonies as well. We heard

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Speaker 5: about New Zealand, I'm sure you did also in Australia,

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Speaker 5: and it's it's quite a raw take on these individual journeys,

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Speaker 5: you know. And my character Collins lives in this apartment

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Speaker 5: with he's a college professor, lives in this apartment with

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Speaker 5: these other artists and bohemians and they, yeah, they're just

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Speaker 5: trying to trying to get through life and look for

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Speaker 5: love in the face of their their situation. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's a it's a beautiful yet raw, a visceral story.

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Speaker 5: So it's it's awesome to bring a show like this

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Speaker 5: to Perth. I don't know, maybe you could tell me

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Speaker 5: if the rent has actually ever been to w.

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Speaker 2: Talking about this the other day and we don't think

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Speaker 2: it has. Probably both remember, yeah, very familiar with the

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Speaker 2: show and because of course, the incredible story behind it.

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Speaker 2: The movie Tic Tic Boom, if you haven't seen it,

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Speaker 2: is tells the story about Jonathan Larson. He wrote it

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Speaker 2: and died the night before I think it was the

666
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Speaker 2: night before it's Broadway debut and didn't get to see

667
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Speaker 2: what a huge spectacular success it was.

668
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, as you say that, my hairs are

669
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Speaker 5: standing right.

670
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Speaker 4: I know.

671
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: It's incredible story.

672
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 5: You know, the rehearsal process is quite incredible because when

673
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 5: you're bringing to life the story the story of someone

674
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 5: that someone's written, you really are trying to honor. And

675
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 5: quite often that the writer comes in and visits you

676
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: and you know, has to talk to your cast, and

677
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 5: we're they're putting the story together, going well, this this

678
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 5: person did pass away on the morning that it was

679
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 5: supposed to be showed to his friends and family, and

680
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 5: it just adds a little bit more of an incentive

681
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 5: to just to do justice. Yeah, responsibility to carry the

682
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Speaker 5: story on.

683
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Speaker 1: And yeahs man, it does feel like every time I

684
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: said that Rent's being performed somewhere, it's like this ongoing

685
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: tribute to this, to this man. Incredibly. Yeah.

686
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 5: Musically as well, Yes.

687
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Speaker 2: Yes, we love to ask where you were when you

688
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: found out you got the role, do you remember.

689
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 4: Where you were and how you react and how you reacted.

690
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 5: I was in Sydney. Yeah, when I found out I

691
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 5: got the role. I was in a show at the

692
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 5: time called Miss Saigone, which was a Vietnamese American story,

693
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 5: and I was it an email. I come here with

694
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 5: an email or a call, but it was my agent

695
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 5: just saying, hey, look, they loved your Colins and that

696
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 5: loves you love you to play the role. And this

697
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 5: is probably the one role where I didn't even expect

698
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 5: because I came here for another show and then I

699
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 5: was supposed to go back home. I was supposed to

700
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 5: go back home to New Zealand, and I was like, wow,

701
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: my whole world has flipped again, and now we've got

702
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 5: we're traveling with the family, touring with the family at

703
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 5: the moment, and I, like I was saying before, I

704
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 5: felt an incredible responsibility because I remember the song that

705
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 5: I had to sing in the audition room, and it's

706
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 5: a song called I'll Cover You that Colins sings to

707
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 5: his partner that had since passed, you know, in the eulogy.

708
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 5: I'm okay, I know I nailed it. In the audition,

709
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 5: but now I've got to sing it in front of

710
00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: the audiences and pressure, and now here I am and perf.

711
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: We loved going and seeing live shows and seeing theater

712
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: and seeing the witnessing that incredible talent that you and

713
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: your cast mates have. But I remember sitting at the

714
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: Tina Turner show and rub we had Ruver in the

715
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: studio here. Amazing, wonderful, so wonderful. But I love I'm

716
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: such a nerd. I love going through the booklet and

717
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: seeing all the different shows that all the people in

718
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: the cast have been. It's an incredible life, isn't it,

719
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: Because everyone, even some of the understudies, and they've been

720
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: forty different productions. What a life for you you lead?

721
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Speaker 5: It is? And you're saying that text me back to

722
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 5: lan King ten years ago with r Vaca was playing

723
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 5: Enzi You Go, and that was her. That was her

724
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 5: first big sort of taste of theater, and then she

725
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 5: went on and did amazing things and now she's Tina,

726
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 5: and yeah, you're right, every every single person is just

727
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 5: so incredible and the oh, the way that they bring

728
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 5: the roles to life and characters to life.

729
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 1: And all that experience. You know, no wonder. It's often

730
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: so damn good out there, you know, Yeah, someone who's never.

731
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Speaker 2: Performed the Lion King, And I do love musical theater

732
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: and I've seen a lot of it. The Lion King

733
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen

734
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: on stage.

735
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 4: And because because you played Simba.

736
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: I was on the edge of my seat, like there's

737
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: elephants coming from one direction, there's giraffe coming from others,

738
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: and I had tears rolling down my face just from

739
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: the sheer. I was like a six year old, so excited.

740
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: It was so beautiful. And you met your wife she

741
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: was Nala, Yes, please.

742
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: Please tell me? Can you feel the love tonight was?

743
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: Do you know what's incredible is that we finished the

744
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 5: Linking tour here in Perth ten years ago and me

745
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 5: and my wife are walking the streets this morning walking

746
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 5: our baby girl. Yeah, and she's also in the in

747
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 5: the Rent show as well, and a show she's always

748
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 5: dreamed of being. And we're talking about it because we

749
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 5: actually at the time, we weren't together, but we were

750
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 5: sort of, you know, in love, and we remember when

751
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 5: we were here last and we thought we were never

752
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 5: going to see each other again. Now ten years later

753
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 5: we're about to be in her dream show that she's

754
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 5: always wanted to be in. And yeah, it's life crazy

755
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 5: like that. Sometimes pretty special Man has played a role

756
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 5: in that, really has.

757
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: I'd love to know from your sporting career, if you

758
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: rugby career, is there anything from your sporting career that

759
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: helps you on stage and finding your place and anything

760
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: along those lines, Is there any.

761
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 5: One hundred percent more so as well? Yes, yes, I

762
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 5: mean definitely discipline and just that whole that that concept

763
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 5: of team and yeah, and you know, preparing and coming

764
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 5: together and realizing that when it's time like game time

765
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 5: or showtime, it's it's it's about your team and it's

766
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 5: about it's about also about others. When you're playing, you're

767
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 5: playing for the people that are coming to watch you.

768
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 5: When you're performing, you're you're there together and you're telling

769
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 5: telling a story. So it's yeah, even just the discipline

770
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 5: of you've got to stay for you've got to look

771
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 5: after your body, more strength.

772
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot doing a show every night

773
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: and twice on you.

774
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: Know, some days, it's a lot.

775
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 5: That's the thing. In the show. You're doing it every night. Yes, yeah,

776
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 5: you know, playing sport you're just preparing for the weekend.

777
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 5: So same, similar but similar but different. Yeah, well, is

778
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Speaker 5: there a.

779
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Speaker 2: Of all You've done a lot of shows, but is

780
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Speaker 2: there a show that you you know, is at the

781
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: top of the list of I.

782
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Speaker 4: Want to play that one day.

783
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 5: Oh okay, I would have to see and I don't

784
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 5: even know if it's going to happen. Okay, But I

785
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 5: really love Blamers. I love Lamers. I love when I

786
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 5: went to the West End and yeah, you.

787
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 4: Just it's just it is my It's my absolute favorite. Yeah,

788
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Speaker 4: I can't.

789
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Speaker 2: I just yeah, as beautiful as I never met a

790
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: production of Blamers, I didn't.

791
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: Love Jean, let's get working on that.

792
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 7: Yeah.

793
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Did you see the movie and enjoyed it?

794
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 5: I enjoyed it.

795
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: I know a lot of few critics.

796
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people didn't.

797
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: Didn't mind it.

798
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: I thought I was going to be you know, because

799
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: of what we didn't hurt that I got to meet

800
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: Hugh Jackman.

801
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 4: Did sat like about that?

802
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: Far from that?

803
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 5: Helps love to meet him. That helps man?

804
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: All right.

805
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 2: Well, you can get your tickets for rent through rent

806
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: called dot com dot au. It starts at His Majesty's

807
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: Theater on Saturday. It runs till May twenty five, Nicko.

808
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: Lovely to have you in.

809
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Lisa.

810
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: And yeah now and by the way, rent is not

811
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Speaker 1: going up like it is in Perth. All over the place.

812
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: The price days the same, so yeah, awesome, great.

813
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Speaker 5: To flick with.

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Speaker 2: Ben o'she All right, Benn, welcome back from sil morning.

815
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Speaker 9: Thank you.

816
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 4: Well you've been hanging out with your new best friend

817
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 4: Chris Hemson.

818
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're bros off of Bromancey. He knows your name

819
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: and you're never going to forget.

820
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Speaker 5: It, never forget it.

821
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Speaker 4: And now we have Apes.

822
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Speaker 9: Yep, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. And there

823
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 9: are two types of people in the world. People who

824
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 9: have seen the more recent Planet of the Apes movies,

825
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 9: Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Dawn of the

826
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 9: Planet of the Apes, and War for the Planet of

827
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Speaker 9: the Apes, the last two in particular amazing.

828
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Speaker 4: And then there's people like us and the people like us.

829
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Speaker 9: Who when you think of Planet of the Apes, you're

830
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 9: thinking of Charlton Heston without a shirt on. You get

831
00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 9: your stinking paws off me, you damn esthetics And one

832
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 9: of the all time creepiest cinema moments where Charlton Heston

833
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 9: looks at doctor Zira and says, I would like to

834
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 9: kiss you goodbye and then and then kiss the kisses

835
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 9: the ape and I don't know, I don't know if

836
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 9: I'm okay with now I've never done. And then of course,

837
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 9: you know, we finally did it. You blew it all up,

838
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 9: you maniacs. So it classic stuff. But younger people will

839
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 9: look back at that nineteen sixty eight original, which is

840
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 9: based on a French novel, and think, man, it's a

841
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 9: bit cheesy. Charlton Heston is a bit hammy chewing up

842
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,959
Speaker 9: the scenery. But it actually was. It was awesome and.

843
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 4: It was such a great ending, huge.

844
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Speaker 9: Impact, one of the all time great twists of movies,

845
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 9: and it was a box office success. It also came

846
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 9: at the height of the Vietnam War. It had these

847
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 9: themes of humanity bringing about its own destruction, so it

848
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 9: really resonated with audiences. But then that impact was somewhat

849
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 9: diluted over the ensuing years with multiple sequels which got

850
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 9: worse and worse and worse. There was a TV series

851
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 9: Tim tim Burton made a reboot in two thousand and

852
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 9: one with Mark Wahlbergh, and there was all sorts of

853
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 9: drum the Helena bonhom Carter. They recreated the cross species pash.

854
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 4: This time there was a lot of talk about it.

855
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, there was low key beastialities and never really good.

856
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 9: So and then and then along came along came James

857
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 9: Franco with the Rise of the Planet of the Apes

858
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 9: in twenty eleven, and they did away with all the prosthetics,

859
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 9: no humans wearing monkey prosthetics. Instead it was CG effects

860
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 9: I just identified as chimpanzees.

861
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 5: That's right.

862
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 9: With the great Andy Serkis who played Golum in Lord

863
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 9: of the Rings. He was the main monkey caesar and

864
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 9: that film was fantastic. But then the next two were

865
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 9: really really good, and Dawn of the Planet of the

866
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 9: Apes in particular was getting buzz as a potential nominee

867
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 9: for a Best Picture Oscar, that's how good it was.

868
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 9: And War for the Planet of the Apes had Woe Housen,

869
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 9: also really good, and the CG effects were groundbreaking. They

870
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 9: were like industry leading special effects. And so now along

871
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 9: comes this sequel which has set many generations into the future,

872
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 9: a few hundred years into the future from the events

873
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 9: of War for the Planet of the apes, and you

874
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 9: might be thinking, what's the point of bringing it back?

875
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 9: And basically with none of those characters, no Caesar with

876
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 9: Andy serkis well, the point to me seems to be no,

877
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 9: no Cornetians, no Doctor Zaias. How good was that Simpsons

878
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 9: episode with Doctor Sayas I hate every chimp and.

879
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: So good?

880
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 9: Anyway, So I get the feeling that studio is trying

881
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 9: to dovetail the franchise into the nineteen sixty eight original

882
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 9: to get back to that point where we maybe have

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00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 9: you know, this astronaut landing on a mysterious planet.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it was Earth all along.

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Speaker 9: So I feel like that's where we're heading towards, but

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Speaker 9: we're not quite there yet with this movie. It stars

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Speaker 9: Owen Tigue, who was in the rebooted It franchise the

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Speaker 9: Horror Movie franchise is one of the kids. He plays

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Speaker 9: an ape named Noah who has to go on a quest,

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Speaker 9: go on a quest to save his clan who have

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Speaker 9: been abducted by the evil proximous Caesar, a Banobo monkey,

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Speaker 9: and they get up to some pretty freaky, fascinating monkeys.

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Speaker 9: But this Banobo is pretty brutal. He's he's not a

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Speaker 9: friendly and he fancies himself as the new Caesar, so

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Speaker 9: he calls himself Proximus Caesar, and his goal in this

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Speaker 9: film is to get into this like norrad Us military bunker,

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Speaker 9: which he thinks is filled with all kinds of goodies

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Speaker 9: and weapons, and so he's kind of enslaved all of

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Speaker 9: these apes to get that job done. And so Noah

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Speaker 9: has to rescue his family, rescue his mum and his mates,

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Speaker 9: and he gets this unlikely alliance struck with a human.

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Speaker 9: And so for people who have missed the last few movies,

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Speaker 9: the basic premise is there was a man made virus

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Speaker 9: that got out of a lab that sounds a bit

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Speaker 9: for me, bit triggering for some people. And no one

906
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Speaker 9: ate a bat or a pangulin I don't anyway, So

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Speaker 9: it's spread spread, it's spread around the spread around the world.

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Speaker 9: And the result of the virus is it made primates

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Speaker 9: super intelligent, and it kind of is cognitively impaired humans.

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Speaker 9: It's made them like mute there and yeah, that's called television,

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Speaker 9: and so humans are kind of reduced capacity, can't talk,

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Speaker 9: kind of cave man esque. But but Noah the monkey

913
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Speaker 9: comes into contact with a human who actually can talk.

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Speaker 9: She's actually very intelligent played by freyer Allen from the

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Speaker 9: Witcher series on Netflix. And she can talk, she's very smart,

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Speaker 9: she's got her own agenda. And so then the film

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Speaker 9: kind of goes on from there. So it's these two

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Speaker 9: versus Proximus Caesar. Will you mate may See makes it

919
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Speaker 9: an appearance. He's a human in the film who's kind

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Speaker 9: of the human butler of proximous Caesar. The CG effects

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Speaker 9: are incredible, like absolutely, Like you watch some scenes and

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Speaker 9: you go, you know, I cannot even believe that the

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Speaker 9: computer generated images can be so believable. The problem with

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Speaker 9: this film is that it's so obviously setting up for

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Speaker 9: the next movie. And that's one of my pet peeves

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Speaker 9: in cinema. Where they have a curate, perfectly good premise

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Speaker 9: for a film, they could have a perfectly satisfying conclusion,

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Speaker 9: but they kind of ruin that because they want to

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Speaker 9: get to point.

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Speaker 1: BI Yeah, exactly, but you don't want to go to

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Speaker 1: see a stepping stone.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing.

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Speaker 9: It feels like a stepping stone, which is weird because

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Speaker 9: this is the first movie in what I assume is

935
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Speaker 9: a new trilogy, and who knows if they're ever going

936
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Speaker 9: to be able to make the next movie, so you've

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Speaker 9: got to make it stand alone on its own two feet,

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Speaker 9: and so that kind of unfortunately diminishes the impact of

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Speaker 9: what would otherwise be a pretty enjoyable film.

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Speaker 1: It is still enjoyable.

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Speaker 9: People who like Planet of the Apes are going to

942
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Speaker 9: get a lot out of it. It's spectacular to watch,

943
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Speaker 9: and there's some interesting thought provoking stuff as well. But

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Speaker 9: just you get to the end and you're like, oh,

945
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Speaker 9: hang on, there's an extra ten minute. It's and you

946
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Speaker 9: end up with more questions and answers and people find

947
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Speaker 9: that unsatisfying and I can I can relate to that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So how many corneliuses are you giving it?

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Speaker 9: Loved it? It's such a go back and watch that

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Speaker 9: ninety Associate film, everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's so fun. So I'm going to give a.

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Speaker 2: Three a solid tree Okay, very nice, thank you, very

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Speaker 2: imposable thumbs and one yeah BTUs.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a heist movie in a way.

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Speaker 2: Give our love to your new best mate, Chris. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've got time to tell that story. We'll tell that story.

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Speaker 1: We have to tell that.

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Speaker 5: A furious is coming out, so tell it. Then.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to that and Lisa