1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Bush. As we know, the federal election was indeed called 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: over the weekend. We'll be heading to the polls on 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: May twenty one, and there has been a few announcements 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: made over the last couple of days. Now joining me 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: on the line is David little Proud, who is the 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Deputy Leader of the Nationals and also the Minister for 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Northern Australia. Good morning to you, David. 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: Hi, good morning, good to be back. 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: Good to have you on the show. Now, look, there's 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: a lot going on this morning, I think on a 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: well not only on a national scale, actually for us 12 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: here in the Northern Territory. And I know that overnight 13 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: this news flow through that the Morrison government signed a 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: landmark energy and a missions reduction agreement with the Northern 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: Territory government that's going to secure reliable and affordable energy 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: to the Northern Territory. David, do you have a little 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: bit more detail about this agreement. 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, it's eight hundred and seventy two million dollars 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: in the federal governments obviously kicking the tin comos of that, 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: and what it is is about making sure that we 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: can can be risk investment up here, make sure that 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: you have reliable, affordable energy, because that's what's going to 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: create the environment for businesses to come and invest here 24 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: if they can compete with the rest of the country 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: and compete with the world with cheap, affordable energy. It's 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: about making sure we make that investment through things like 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: hydrogen in particular, making sure that we're the leading roads 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: of that in terms of technology. But also the Deputy 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: promise will be here with me today and we're also 30 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: making a big announcement on the Middle Arm project. So 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: we're seeing the opportunity in Northern Australia and particularly in 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: Northern Territory. You're at the center of it. And let 33 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: me tell you, not just geographically but economically, and it's 34 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: about now making sure that the dollars that we spend 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: of your money, this is all your money, we get 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: a return on investment, not only to the Northern Territory 37 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: but Australian taxpayer. And you've got to be able to 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: do that by creating environment of reducing your energy costs 39 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: to make you more competitive, whether that be through hydrogen, microgids, 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: grids at gas and making sure you have the infrastructure 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: to export. And that's what we're doing today. Between what 42 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: we announced last night, but also what the deput Prime 43 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: this or I and and other announcements today as well 44 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: with Northern Australia. 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well before we get to the Northern Australia once, 46 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: are you able to give us a little bit more 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: detail about what's happening out there at the Middle Arm 48 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: with that project. 49 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, one and a half billion dollars will be 50 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 2: put into the Northern Arm. And I don't want to 51 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: go too fuck because obviously the DPM will want to 52 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: make the big announcement today. 53 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: We weren't tell We weren't telling Minister if some of 54 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: your data. 55 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: Who cares anyway, he's still on a phone on his 56 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: way here. I beat him tell us. 57 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: So what is it exactly? 58 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's about making sure that we build that 59 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: Middle Arm project up there so it can be an 60 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: export powerhouse and effectively we're going to have and that's 61 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: not just for Darwin. This is also we're going to 62 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: build new logistics hubs four hundred and forty million dollars 63 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: in Alice Springs, Catherine and Tenant Creek, so that it's 64 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: not us Darwin the benefits. It's right the way through 65 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: the whole Northern territories part of this, not just not 66 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: just Darwin, and so it'll make sure we're looking at 67 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: the hydrogen the possibility that's there as well as well 68 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: as making sure that the whole rail spur and roadneckwork 69 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: actually strengthens that supply chain network. So what we're doing 70 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: is is a whole infrastructure spend and what we're doing 71 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: is being very strategic about making sure the money we 72 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: spend builds. This not just for the the Middle Arm 73 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: project up here for Darwin, but right across the territory. 74 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: So it's all into linked We de risk these projects 75 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: and this is not just export. This will also feed 76 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: into what the agreement we've signed with the Northern Territory 77 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: government around cheaper reliable energy for territorium. 78 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: And so, Minister, is this an election promise or is 79 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: this actually budgeted for? 80 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: Budgeted for? This is the thing we made. We made 81 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: our commitments in a budget. We're not making election promises. 82 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: We took a document to the people of Australia and 83 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: we put it into Parliament and that will be law 84 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: law and so everything that we put in that budget, 85 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: the sixteen and a half billion dollars that we are 86 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: going to spend in Northern Australia. Out of the twenty 87 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: one billion dollars for Region Australia, sixteen and a half 88 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: billion dollars is coming up here. That's an acknowledgment of 89 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: what you've done here and what you can do if 90 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: we put the environment in structure in it. So no 91 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: election promises. This is actually cold hard cash, an investment 92 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: in you because you've done the heavy lifting. Well, much 93 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: of the country has been put under the diner for 94 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: the last two years. It's Northern Australia that's paid the bills, 95 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 2: whether it's been through agriculture or resources, and so we're 96 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: not making promises. We cut the check and it's time 97 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: to build. We're time for talks over start getting burning 98 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: some diesels, start doing what we need to do, whether 99 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: it be digging hules or building pipelines. Let's get on 100 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: with it. And that's what we're saying. We've got the plan, 101 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 2: we've got the money set aside, and it's time to 102 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: get on with the job. 103 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: And I know that you did mention just a moment ago. 104 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: There are these projects as well, which you are announcing today, 105 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: over twenty two million dollars for three projects in the 106 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: Northern Territory. It is part of that funding and essentially 107 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: eleven million dollars to Charles Dalwin Uni, ten point five 108 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: to austral Fisheries and six hundred and seventy thousand odd 109 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: dollars to Northern Track Machinery. 110 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, so while these are grants, you got to understand 111 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: it's not just dollar for a dollar. Of the twenty 112 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: two million dollars we're going to spend of Australian taxpayers money, 113 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 2: We're going to get an investment of nearly ninety million dollars. 114 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: Such is the investment confidence of these three organizations in 115 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: Northern Australia. That all we've done is we've leveraged Australian 116 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: taxpayers money to get a better outcome, a better return 117 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: on investment. And that's what we've got to do. It's 118 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: your money. Unless we get a return on investment, then 119 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: we don't pay the bills. And so you know this 120 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: is particularly for Charles Darwen University, it's particularly about help 121 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: and we're going to build a new billing there to 122 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: make sure that we've got a State of Health education 123 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: facility so that people from the Northern Territory can come 124 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: and educated here. But can stay here and want to 125 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: stay in the territory and add to those health workers 126 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: out there that are doing the great work. It's also 127 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: building on our fisheries industry ten a half million dollars 128 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: for them to get greater quotas and in fact, they'll 129 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: have one of the biggest snapper licenses in the country, 130 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: making sure that we can have that sustainable resource developed 131 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: here in the territory. So these are just common sense investments, 132 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: using your money, but making sure that it's not just 133 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: a handout. We're actually getting a return on investment because 134 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: every dollar we spend of your money, someone's got to 135 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: pay it back, and the only way to do that 136 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: is to get business moving and create new jobs and 137 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: they'll pay it back. But it just shifts the dial 138 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: for the Northern Territory. And this is what we're saying 139 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: is the territory is where it's going to happen. And 140 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: these big announcements today, my mind, is probably the smallest, 141 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: getting a return for you and making sure the territory 142 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: can be all that wants to be and should be, 143 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: because we're just going to invest and then get out 144 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: of your own and let you guys do what you do. Best. 145 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: Well, we're certainly hoping so, minister, before I let you go. 146 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: On Friday, the Senator Sam McMahon announced that she's going 147 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: to be running for the Liberal Democrats. What did you 148 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: think of that? 149 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: Oh? 150 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Good luck to her, No further comment. 151 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: No, I think I think her record speaks for herself. 152 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: Or what do you mean by that? 153 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: Well, I mean you sign up to one one organization, 154 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: you change another. You know that speaks about your character. 155 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: I'll leave her that. Good luck to her. Well, it's 156 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: a democracy and I wish her all the best. 157 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: Well, Minister David little Proud, We appreciate your time this morning. 158 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for having a chat to us, 159 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: and we won't we won't tell the Deputy Prime Minister 160 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: that you've given us any further detail on those announcements 161 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: you got the scot Thanks mate,