WEBVTT - Victoria Beckham: The Cheating Scandals

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into the episode, we wanted to issue

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<v Speaker 1>a trigger warning as we discuss themes about eating disorders.

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<v Speaker 1>The Beckhams had become English royalty. The public were obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with the couple and their every move made headlines. I

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<v Speaker 1>con them golden balls.

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<v Speaker 2>You know now.

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<v Speaker 3>That's gonna be true and kind of those kings. I

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't have said.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knew though, that the Beckham Juggernau was about

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<v Speaker 1>to go international. A shop moved to Madrid, put Posh

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<v Speaker 1>and Becks's marriage under the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I love my family, I have a wonderful life,

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<v Speaker 2>but football is everything to me and joining Real Madrid

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<v Speaker 2>is a dream come true.

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<v Speaker 1>Then came the onslaught of cheating allegations that rocked the marriage.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like a whole. I felt really cheap, and

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<v Speaker 4>I felt used, and I said, I'm not not even

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<v Speaker 4>why why am I doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>We are journalist Sophie Kate and Amy Torbert, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is our new series Unspoken, where we bring you the

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<v Speaker 1>unspoken stories behind the big pop culture headlines to rock

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties and early naughties. When we left you last,

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<v Speaker 1>David and Victoria had officially become the Beckhams. They had

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<v Speaker 1>an absolutely extravagant wedding. They also had just given birth

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<v Speaker 1>to their first child, Brooklyn, and were dealing with absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying kidnapping attempts. Now in the midst of all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria was also being hounded by the press, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had an absolute obsession with her weight. So over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>she's been called everything from porky posh to skeleton posh

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<v Speaker 1>and the media. Speculation about her weight went into overdrive

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<v Speaker 1>following the birth of her first child, Brooklyn, in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine. Now, not long after she gave birth, a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of Victoria appeared on the front page of the newspaper,

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<v Speaker 1>where a journalists pointed out every part of her body

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<v Speaker 1>where she needed to focus on losing weight. She did

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<v Speaker 1>end up losing a large amount of weight very quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>which sparked speculation of an eating disorder. Victoria denied the

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<v Speaker 1>claims that she she was anorexic, insisting that her shape

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<v Speaker 1>had changed naturally after giving birth. She said her issue

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<v Speaker 1>was made worse by food allergies. Just two months after

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<v Speaker 1>giving birth to Brooklyn, Victoria appeared on TF five Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>which was hosted by Chris Evans, and unbelievably, during the

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<v Speaker 1>live interview, she was forced to weigh herself in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the audience and cameras. Let's throw to how it

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<v Speaker 1>went down.

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<v Speaker 4>Is you wait back to normal?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Can I check?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, Jerry, didn't you on?

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<v Speaker 1>But Jerry?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that really smart?

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<v Speaker 2>Two?

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<v Speaker 1>Number two is great?

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<v Speaker 4>You can afford Number two is?

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<v Speaker 1>Can't you.

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<v Speaker 2>All?

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<v Speaker 1>The last time I saw people being weighed on television

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<v Speaker 1>and then cheered for when they lost weight was when

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<v Speaker 1>The Biggest Loser was on and we all know what

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<v Speaker 1>a mess that television show turned into. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if this was filmed today, the uproar making a female

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<v Speaker 1>celebrit pretty stand on scale. It just wouldn't happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>the worst part is Victoria said, oh, you did this

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<v Speaker 1>to Jerry as well, talking about Jerry Hallewell it's even

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<v Speaker 1>worse because she has just had a baby as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's that expectation that well, you better hurry up

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<v Speaker 1>and get rid of this way. Posh did reflect on

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<v Speaker 1>the interview, saying he made me stand on the scales

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<v Speaker 1>to be weighed. Can you imagine doing that nowadays? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand, the Spy Skills announced they were going

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<v Speaker 1>on an indefinite hiatus, but they insisted to fans that

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the end of the spy skills, so they

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<v Speaker 1>never actually officially broke up. It sounds like that denial

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<v Speaker 1>where one d broke up. They're just going on a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria did embark on a short lived solo career. She

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<v Speaker 1>released her first solo album called Victoria Beckham in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and one. Now that didn't go too well. It

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<v Speaker 1>failed to reach the top of the charts, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this has always been a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>saw point for Victoria. Well. She was also mocked by

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<v Speaker 1>the general public and the media because she was never

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<v Speaker 1>known for her voice, as we've touched on in the

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<v Speaker 1>past episodes. Now, to promote the album, Victoria appeared on Parkinson,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead of focusing on the music, David Parkinson flatter

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<v Speaker 1>asked her if she was anarexic. Let's throw to what

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<v Speaker 1>he said.

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<v Speaker 5>Three questions I got to ask you right right? Is

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<v Speaker 5>it true that David wears your knickers? First question, say,

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<v Speaker 5>is it true that you wear the trousers in your house?

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<v Speaker 5>And the third are you anarexic?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 5>Those are the three questions everybody in the audience out

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<v Speaker 5>there and the media all eager to hear your views

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<v Speaker 5>on David wearing your.

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<v Speaker 4>Knickers to star with.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm the only person that actually wears my knickers.

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<v Speaker 1>You are, but if you'd like to borrow them, I can.

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<v Speaker 3>Play the headlines now Parky borrows Poshi's knickers.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked how she tried to divert the question, but

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<v Speaker 1>Michael again asked her, are you anarexic? Let's throw to

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<v Speaker 1>what she responded.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, are you anarexic?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know that?

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<v Speaker 5>I know?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I eat anorexic?

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<v Speaker 5>You eat regularly?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean I have a perfectly healthy dar.

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<v Speaker 1>Why, it's clear to me listening to this interview that

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<v Speaker 1>back in the early two thousands, people didn't understand what

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<v Speaker 1>anorexia was. It seems preposterous to ask someone how they

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<v Speaker 1>know that they're not anorexic. Well, it's also clear that

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<v Speaker 1>no one realized it was completely inappropriate to pose that

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<v Speaker 1>question to someone, let alone do it in a public

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<v Speaker 1>space during a live interview that's been televised, Particularly when

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria went on to explain that she actually had visited

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor to investigate why she was unexpectedly losing weight

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<v Speaker 1>since giving birth, and she said she was eating normally,

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<v Speaker 1>so she was quite worried about it. And she said

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor told her it was an hereditary condition as

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing had happened to her mum following childbirth.

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<v Speaker 1>This interview just got worse because Michael Parkinson then asked

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<v Speaker 1>her what it's like going out for meals at restaurants

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<v Speaker 1>and do people assume that she goes to the toilet

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<v Speaker 1>to chuck up? And the audience proceeded to laugh. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt like a pylon because on the show they also

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<v Speaker 1>had two Fat Ladies. Star Clarissa d Wright interviewed and

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<v Speaker 1>she was sitting alongside Victoria and she chimed in asking

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria what she ate, and when Victoria tried to explain

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<v Speaker 1>that she eats breakfast, lunch, and dinner and snacks, Clarissa

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<v Speaker 1>then made a snide comment saying, and how many let

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<v Speaker 1>us leaves a day? Was that? Do you think they

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<v Speaker 1>purposely got Clarissa on the panel. It was an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>mix because you've got Victoria Beckham there who is being

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<v Speaker 1>accused of not eating, and then you've got Clarissa Dixon,

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<v Speaker 1>who was on a show called two fat ladies, who

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<v Speaker 1>was known for cooking very indulgent food, So I maybe

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<v Speaker 1>think that there was some strategy behind it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was definitely a strategic move by producers. They would

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<v Speaker 1>be working weeks in advance to make sure that the

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<v Speaker 1>three guest celebrities all complimented each other in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>that they were three very different people with three different views. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was so uncomfortable to watch, particularly when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the way Parkinson worded the question. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that in the early two thousands we weren't as

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<v Speaker 1>educated on the topic of eating disorders, but there would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a much better way that he could have

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<v Speaker 1>worded the question and shown some compassion, rather than presenting

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<v Speaker 1>it as a third dot point in a quick filistic questions.

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<v Speaker 1>He also seemed to accuse her of it, as if

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<v Speaker 1>it was something that she was purposely doing to cause upset,

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<v Speaker 1>when we know that anorexia is a mental health condition. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine if she said, oh, yes, I am,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how is that a really sensitive way to

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<v Speaker 1>tell people about something that you've been struggling with. It

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<v Speaker 1>also feels like a bit of a got you moment

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because if she closes up and says no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. Then later down the track, if she does

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<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable to talk about it, then she lied to

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<v Speaker 1>the public.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. After years of denying the eating disorder rumors, in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one, Victoria admitted in her autobiography that

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<v Speaker 1>she did in fact suffer from an eating disorder. So

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<v Speaker 1>she said her obsession with her body image began in

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<v Speaker 1>the early days of the Spice Girls, when management told

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<v Speaker 1>all five girls they needed to lose weight. Victoria went

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<v Speaker 1>on to blame Jerry Halliwell in her book for fueling

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<v Speaker 1>her obsession with losing weight. So at the time, all

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<v Speaker 1>five girls were living together in a house in Berkshire,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry encouraged Victoria and Melsey to get up early

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<v Speaker 1>and go running, as well as introduced Victoria to meal

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<v Speaker 1>replacement shakes. She then said, the trouble is that when

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<v Speaker 1>you start thinking like this, it's hard to stop a

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<v Speaker 1>change from someone who was dieting to lose a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of weight to being obsessive. I was shrinking and the

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<v Speaker 1>excitement at getting thinner quite took away the hunger. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure got too much for Victoria, who then began

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<v Speaker 1>binging and purging. It's been reported that Jerry and Melsey

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<v Speaker 1>also battled eating disorders. Victoria said she would eat ten

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<v Speaker 1>bowls of Frosty's in one sitting, and tins of fruit

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<v Speaker 1>and when she was in the gym. Instead of checking

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<v Speaker 1>her posture or position, she said she'd checked the size

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<v Speaker 1>of her bum or to see if her double chin

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<v Speaker 1>was getting any smaller. Wrote I began living on vegetables

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing else, but it never occurred to me that

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<v Speaker 1>I had an eating disorder. She wrote, I used to

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<v Speaker 1>chop up bowls of spinach and carrots and steam them,

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<v Speaker 1>or I just eat peas I had become skeletal. Spice.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite saying that she suffered from an eating disorder in

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<v Speaker 1>the early days of the Spy Skirls, Victoria vehemently denies

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<v Speaker 1>that that condition continued. So She said, I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a big difference between someone having an eating disorder and

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is controlled about what they eat. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>big difference. And every now and then, of course I

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<v Speaker 1>go and eat what I like, but I do try

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<v Speaker 1>to be quite disciplined in the way I eat. She

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<v Speaker 1>also said that becoming a mum helped her to become

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<v Speaker 1>more accepting of her body. She said, when you have children,

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<v Speaker 1>it also puts a lot into perspective. You realize they

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<v Speaker 1>notice everything. I would never sit down with my kids

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<v Speaker 1>and skip a meal. They need to see that their

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<v Speaker 1>mum eats healthy. You need to show little people how

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<v Speaker 1>to be healthy and happy with who they are. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think this continuous speculation about Victoria's body for the

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<v Speaker 1>last thirty years is just disgusting. And it's so ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>to think that we expect female celebrities to act as

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<v Speaker 1>role models when they we are prone to even greater

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<v Speaker 1>pressure to be thin than ordinary women. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 1>at three out of the five Spy Scales have come

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<v Speaker 1>out and said that they have suffered from eating disorders.

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<v Speaker 1>They were clearly under a lot of pressure in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties to be thin, to be heroin chic. It's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>clear to see that nothing is ever good enough for

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<v Speaker 1>the press. They're either too fat or too thin. They're

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<v Speaker 1>never just quite right. Yeah, and I think it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>really good that Victoria came out and admitted that she

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<v Speaker 1>was struggling with an eating disorder, because it really opened

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<v Speaker 1>up the conversation. We did see it back in the

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<v Speaker 1>mid nineties when Princess Diana came out and said that

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<v Speaker 1>she had bulimia. The thing that I don't like, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's no room for Victoria to be allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to recover from that eating disorder. She has to continually

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<v Speaker 1>be scrutinized and questioned, and even now there is still

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<v Speaker 1>so much speculation around what Victoria eats. Recently, in February

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, David Beckham made headlines when he spoke

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<v Speaker 1>about Victoria's restrictive diet. So he was asked on the

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<v Speaker 1>River CAFEO podcast about what his family eats, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>When I'm eating something great, I want everyone to try it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And that's unfortunately I'm married to someone that

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<v Speaker 2>has eaten the same thing for the last twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>years since I've met her. Victoria, she only eats you know,

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<v Speaker 2>grilled fish, steam, vegetables. She'll very rarely deviate away from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this interview led to a lot of people speculating

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<v Speaker 1>again that Victoria was suffering from an eating disorder, and

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<v Speaker 1>it also sparked a lot of unhelpful conversations that really

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<v Speaker 1>trivialize the way that Victoria ate. So people were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how oh, she's just very disciplined, or it's a

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<v Speaker 1>time saving tactic, and it sparked a lot of unnecessary conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>In July twenty twenty two, Victoria actually addressed the comments

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<v Speaker 1>that David made in the podcast interview. She said, talk

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<v Speaker 1>about making me sound boring. She went on to clarify

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<v Speaker 1>that she eats healthy, including fish, avocado, nuts, that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. She added that she regularly drinks alcohol. She

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<v Speaker 1>also noted, I'm quite extreme in anything I do, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's eating or working out, or drinking or not drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't actually realize. But she was interviewed on the

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<v Speaker 1>same podcast a year earlier, and she sparked mixed reactions

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<v Speaker 1>when she answered what her favorite comfort dish is. So

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<v Speaker 1>she said, this is where I get even more boring

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<v Speaker 1>in the food department. Okay, what do I like? I

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<v Speaker 1>like whole grain toast with salt on it. She then

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<v Speaker 1>laughed at her response and went on to say it

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<v Speaker 1>was really boring and that it's that carbi thing, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that carbohydrate that makes you feel comforted, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love salt. What can I say? She then went on

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<v Speaker 1>to describe herself as a very fussy eater. That is

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<v Speaker 1>most restaurants nightmare. Victoria also explained that she likes her

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<v Speaker 1>food to be cooked plainly, without oil, butter or sauces,

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<v Speaker 1>and as for a diet, she hasn't eaten red meat

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<v Speaker 1>since she was seven and does not eat dairy. She

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<v Speaker 1>also said that she loved to eat steam vegetables with

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<v Speaker 1>balsamic v and like to season her meals herself. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see how that's so much different to what David

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<v Speaker 1>Beckham actually said a year later. I just can't get

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<v Speaker 1>over the fact that there's not even a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>butter on that toast, like the fact that it's just

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<v Speaker 1>bread and salt, because toast with butter can be an

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<v Speaker 1>elite combination. But yeah, I think she's missing out one

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<v Speaker 1>of the vital ingredients there. Now we need to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to June two thousand and three because this is

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<v Speaker 1>a very important moment on the timeline. So the football

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<v Speaker 1>world was left shocked when David Beckham was sold to

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<v Speaker 1>Real Madrid for thirty two million pounds. No one was

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<v Speaker 1>more shocked than David himself, who was at the peak

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<v Speaker 1>of his career and didn't want to leave his beloved

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<v Speaker 1>Manchester United. Now, David's exit was down to his relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with United's manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, so in the early

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<v Speaker 1>days he had been somewhat of a father figure to David,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was tension growing between them. Ever since Beck's

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<v Speaker 1>met Posh. The falling out erupted with a much publicized

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<v Speaker 1>locker room incident. So after the match, David mouthed off

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<v Speaker 1>at Ferguson about the loss and Ferguson lost it and

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<v Speaker 1>kicked a boot at him. David claimed he had to

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<v Speaker 1>get stitches in his eyebrow, whilst Ferguson called its stage management.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Beckham documentary, David said, when I first moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Spain, it was difficult because I'd been part of

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<v Speaker 1>a club and a family for my whole career, from

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<v Speaker 1>the age of fifteen to when I was twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sold overnight. The next minute, I'm in a

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<v Speaker 1>city where I don't speak the language. More importantly, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have my family now. David made the move to

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<v Speaker 1>Spain in June two thousand and three, however Victoria and

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<v Speaker 1>the kids didn't join him until December that year. Victoria

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<v Speaker 1>was heavily criticized in the press for not moving with

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<v Speaker 1>David straight away. However, the reality was she had two

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<v Speaker 1>young children whose lives were also being uprooted. No one

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<v Speaker 1>considered the fact that she actually had to find a

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<v Speaker 1>school for Brooklyn, or that she had a career based

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK. She did become public enemy number one

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<v Speaker 1>with the Spanish people when the media reported that she

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<v Speaker 1>said the Spanish smell of garlic. Now. She those claims,

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<v Speaker 1>saying she would never say anything so disrespectful. She continued

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<v Speaker 1>saying everything was fabricated and taken out of context. It

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<v Speaker 1>was never about Spain. It didn't really seem like Posha's

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<v Speaker 1>sense of humor resonated with the public. During an interview

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<v Speaker 1>with GMTV in Madrid, she said, one thing they can't

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<v Speaker 1>get right here is the grapes because they all have

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<v Speaker 1>pips in it. I feel like that is a common

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<v Speaker 1>thing with English people because I've been listening to a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast recently and these English girls are saying that the

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<v Speaker 1>Americans just don't get their sense of humor, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same for the Spanish well. She also said

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<v Speaker 1>that she wasn't happy with the interior of the houses

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<v Speaker 1>that some of the real estate agents had offered her

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<v Speaker 1>in Madrid. In an interview, she said that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons it's taken her so long to settle into

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<v Speaker 1>Spain is because it's been tough finding a house. She

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<v Speaker 1>said that the houses the agents found her were very

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood and were filled with lifts, disco balls and cinemas,

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<v Speaker 1>and she didn't want anything like that. I do like that.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that she was learning Spanish and that David

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<v Speaker 1>would get very hot under the collar when she'd whisper

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<v Speaker 1>sweet nothings in Spanish. It's pretty funny because the reporter

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<v Speaker 1>Darla Romano tried to teach Victoria a few words, including

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish for golden balls, which is Victoria's pet name for David.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine her then suddenly dropping that to him. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd have no idea. Now, with Victoria and David navigating

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<v Speaker 1>a long distance relationship, the press were already pre empting

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<v Speaker 1>an affair. Talk show host Jonathan Ross started stoking the

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<v Speaker 1>fire when Victoria appeared on his show to promote her

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<v Speaker 1>solo career. Let's throw to what.

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<v Speaker 5>He said, You're dating without that one of the most

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<v Speaker 5>attractive men.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not dating and we've got married.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, okay, I like having this little bit of omen's day,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, but you're you're married to, yeah, one of

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<v Speaker 5>the most attractive, handsome, famous men in the world, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know it's all there for him. And he's going

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<v Speaker 5>out with someone who's out working in New York. And

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<v Speaker 5>you're an attractive you're a beautiful woman. You've got you know,

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<v Speaker 5>fame as well. It must be tough just on that level.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the trust that's involved there must be quite larger.

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<v Speaker 5>Or are you why do you get concerned? Are you

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<v Speaker 5>jealous of each other?

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<v Speaker 2>Case?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think it's always healthy to have a

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<v Speaker 3>certain amount of jealousy in a relationship. But at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, it's no harder for us than

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<v Speaker 3>it is anyone else. You know, you're away from must

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think that there's pressure on every relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to say poor.

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<v Speaker 5>Me, look look for me, okay, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not bad looking for my age. But when I

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<v Speaker 5>go my wife, my wife knows, no one's going to

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<v Speaker 5>look twice. Really unless I went out of my way.

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<v Speaker 5>There's David right now, he's in Spain. They're following himself

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<v Speaker 5>at him. Yeah, you know, they must be all the

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<v Speaker 5>time and you go out, people are right. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure you get more than a few offers, don't you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But I think you know, we do trust each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you got kids, you know, at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the day and you never know how long fame

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<v Speaker 3>is going to last. And it is all very superficial.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why, you know, as long as our relationship

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<v Speaker 3>is all right, that's the main thing. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to grow old and wrinkly together.

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<v Speaker 1>Enter Rebecca Loose. So when David moved to Spain, his

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<v Speaker 1>management firm hired a twenty six year old assistant called

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<v Speaker 1>Rebecca Now. She was born in Madrid, but she also

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<v Speaker 1>holds Dutch citizenship. Her father was a Dutch diplomat and

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<v Speaker 1>her mother was originally from Surrey. Now. The idea was

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<v Speaker 1>that Rebecca would help David settle in and teach him

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<v Speaker 1>the ropes of living in Spain. So Rebecca first met

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<v Speaker 1>David at a private airport and said she was initially

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<v Speaker 1>not impressed by his pretty boy image, ripped jeans, diamond

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<v Speaker 1>earrings and fancy watchers. She did say it was clear

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria and David were at crisis point, with David allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>having explosive fights on the phone with his wife. She

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<v Speaker 1>also said that David begged Victoria to join him in

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<v Speaker 1>Spain with their two sons, saying he couldn't live without them.

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<v Speaker 1>In September two thousand and three, whispers of a cheating

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<v Speaker 1>scandal began brewing when media published photos of David and

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<v Speaker 1>Rebecca at a nightclub together. They looked pretty cozy in

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<v Speaker 1>the photos, sitting close to one another and chatting. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>When the photos hit the paper, David's PR team came

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<v Speaker 1>out and said people were reading into nothing. However, Rebecca

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<v Speaker 1>alleges that these photos actually captured the start of their

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<v Speaker 1>four month affair. Here's what Becka said about that night.

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<v Speaker 4>We were just locked into each other all night, conversation wise,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean other people noticed it. Other people at the dinner,

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<v Speaker 4>I sat opposite him and the rest, you know, sort

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<v Speaker 4>of down the table. Then it was just him and

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<v Speaker 4>I talking and laughing and joking and we just we

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<v Speaker 4>just connected. The chemistry between David and I were so

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<v Speaker 4>strong that everyone was aware, and people weren't happy, obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>because I was being very unprofessional and he's a married man.

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<v Speaker 4>This girl came up, sat between us and we were

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<v Speaker 4>chatting and laughing, and he just kept looking at me.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it dawned on me that what he'd asked me,

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<v Speaker 4>and I did want to go back with him, So,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we just sort of gave each other a

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<v Speaker 4>look and a nod of the head and paid the

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<v Speaker 4>bill and we left.

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<v Speaker 1>Once they left the nightclub, they got into a car

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<v Speaker 1>with two other members of the group they were with,

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<v Speaker 1>and according to Rebecca, as soon as those two people

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<v Speaker 1>were dropped off and they were alone in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>they started passionately kissing. She described them as being like magnets.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have done without that. Now in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>she says, David fed her fresh strawberries. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a detail that seems to have obsessed the UK public,

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<v Speaker 1>I think because it almost seems somewhat romantic.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>In the interview, Rebecca explained how she felt when she

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<v Speaker 1>left the hotel the next day.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very breathless, very very happy, smiling. Yeah. I got

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<v Speaker 4>home and my mother said, oh, where have you slept?

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<v Speaker 4>Worvey spent the nights and she could just tell her

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<v Speaker 4>by the look of my face. She knew I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have to tell him.

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<v Speaker 1>She knew. That week Rebecca went to visit him again

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<v Speaker 1>at his hotel before a match. She said she was

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<v Speaker 1>very excited to see him, but after their encounter she

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<v Speaker 1>felt used. Here's what she said.

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<v Speaker 4>I was very excited to see him, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>literally in, you know, close off, get the action done

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<v Speaker 4>and out within half an hour. And I left their

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<v Speaker 4>feeling absolutely I felt like a whore. I felt really cheap,

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<v Speaker 4>and I felt used and you and I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not not even why why am I doing this? Why

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<v Speaker 4>am I putting myself through that? Because emotionally I've been

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<v Speaker 4>through a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite feeling used, Rebecca fell hard for David, telling the

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<v Speaker 1>media she adored him. She claimed they text each other

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<v Speaker 1>thirty times a day, which, to point out, in the

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<v Speaker 1>early two thousands would have cost you a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>money when that wasn't a problem for becks No. She

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<v Speaker 1>also alleges that they sexed twice a week. She recalled

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<v Speaker 1>visiting a museum with her parents and having to rush

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<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom to finish the sexting in there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure her parents were thrilled to hear this information in

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<v Speaker 1>the newspaper. Despite all the sexting, Rebecca said that over

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<v Speaker 1>their four months relationship, they only had sex six times,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just wonder was this due to a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of opportunity. Well, if Posh wasn't there, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they would have had a lot of opportunity. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's more that Beckham probably had other mistresses going on. Allegedly.

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<v Speaker 1>In April two thousand and four, Rebecca sold her story

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<v Speaker 1>to the News of the World in what was described

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<v Speaker 1>as one of the last great kiss and tell stories.

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<v Speaker 1>The tabloid went to great lengths to get the scoop,

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<v Speaker 1>so journalist Neville Thurlbeck said, securing the story was like

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<v Speaker 1>a spy operation. He detailed the lengths he went to

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<v Speaker 1>in his book Tabloid Secrets, The Stories Behind the Headlines Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Neville said, his editor called him into his office and said,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest story of the year is about to be dropped.

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<v Speaker 1>By this stage, Rebecca had enlisted the help of publicist

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<v Speaker 1>Max Clifford, who was helping her sell a story to

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<v Speaker 1>the paper.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>In exchange for her story, Rebecca wanted one hundred thousand pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>which by the end of the investigation ended up being

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and fifty thousand pounds. In exchange for the money,

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<v Speaker 1>the newspaper wanted an interview with all the launchy texts

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<v Speaker 1>and proof, so Neville flew to Madrid straight away and

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<v Speaker 1>spent two weeks hiding out with Rebecca, trying to catch

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<v Speaker 1>David out for the cheating. Can you imagine them sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the hotel room just sending off these rogue texts

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<v Speaker 1>to David Beckham. You think about it when you really

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<v Speaker 1>like someone and you're hoping to get a text back. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this would have been magnified because she's trying to prove

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<v Speaker 1>that this affair actually went on.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the reason that they were trying to get Beckham

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<v Speaker 1>to text them back was that he was always texting

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<v Speaker 1>her from different numbers, and they needed proof that it

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<v Speaker 1>actually was him. Isn't this just a major red flag

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<v Speaker 1>if your partner is constantly changing their phone number. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that this is something that celebrities do in case

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<v Speaker 1>someone finds out what their number is, but this seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be happening on a regular basis. The journalist said

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<v Speaker 1>that he changed his phone number more times than men

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<v Speaker 1>changed their soul. Well, I feel like you'd have a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good excuse for it. Eventually, Rebecca did get a

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<v Speaker 1>response to one of her calls, but all they heard

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<v Speaker 1>down the line was a silence, and then a person

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<v Speaker 1>on the other line burst into boyish giggles. Now Neville

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<v Speaker 1>was about to pull the pin on the story until

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<v Speaker 1>Rebecca discovered a piece of paper that had Beckham's Management's

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<v Speaker 1>company details on it, and at the bottom, in David's

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<v Speaker 1>handwriting was his name followed by a phone number. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that phone number match raunchy text that had been sent

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>to Rebecca. Now the news of the affair broke with

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<v Speaker 1>a five page spread in News of the World that

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday morning. The story framed David as lonely and said

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Rebecca was there to comfort him. It also described Victoria

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<v Speaker 1>and David's long distance marriage as troubled and said he

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<v Speaker 1>felt abandoned by Victoria. It seems like they're just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to paint Victoria badly in this story, even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>about him being a well. The tone running through the

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<v Speaker 1>article was, of course, he was going to cheat if

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<v Speaker 1>she wasn't there keeping an eye on him, And the

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<v Speaker 1>article really didn't spare any detail. It printed the array

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<v Speaker 1>of graphic text messages where David allegedly explained what he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do to Rebecca in bed Now, Rebecca was

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<v Speaker 1>always portrayed as the villain in the press. Well, David

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<v Speaker 1>was this lovable puppy dog who was lonely and needed attention.

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<v Speaker 1>The public really felt like she was trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>a career out of sleeping with a married man, and

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<v Speaker 1>that she wanted to inflict pain on Victoria through the

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<v Speaker 1>press that she was putting out there. I can see

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<v Speaker 1>why people thought that, because it was publicized that she

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<v Speaker 1>got three hundred and fifty thousand dollars for selling the story.

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<v Speaker 1>If she had perhaps come out and told the story

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<v Speaker 1>for free, people may have been more kind towards her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, her publicers probably feared that this would be the case,

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<v Speaker 1>so asked her not to be named as the source

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>in the first story that came out and the news

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 1>of the world instead. It was bizarrely written from the

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of an unnamed source who was apparently a close

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 1>family friend of Rebecca's that she had confided in. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a general tactic of journalists. They'll use an unnamed

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<v Speaker 1>source when quite often it is the person involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the story who was giving these quotes. However, in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it all didn't quite add up, because why would Rebecca's

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<v Speaker 1>friend one have copies of her hundreds of text messages,

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<v Speaker 1>majority of which were of a sexual nature. And I

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<v Speaker 1>can also hardly imagine a family friend giving this quote.

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Speaker 1>So one of the quotes said David was a sensational lover.

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<v Speaker 1>The sex was highly charged, explosive. They would make love

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<v Speaker 1>for hours. Surely the general public could read between the

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>lines and knew that this story had come direct from Rebecca.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no way she wasn't involved in it. The

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<v Speaker 1>journalist did out of line about how she was approached

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<v Speaker 1>for commt and didn't give any but surely people could

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<v Speaker 1>put two and two together. Oh definitely. It did feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Victoria was being mocked when this story came out,

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<v Speaker 1>because the text messages really ignited a national guessing game

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>because some of the words had been censored out, so

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<v Speaker 1>the public was encouraged to try and guess what words

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<v Speaker 1>were missing. And can you imagine how that would have

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>felt for Victoria. It would have been absolutely soul destroying

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone is getting fun out of your misery and

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<v Speaker 1>all playing a game to guess these sordid things that

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>your husband had said to his personal assistant. Well, David

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<v Speaker 1>Beckham's team was quick to release a statement, and it

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<v Speaker 1>must be noted that David didn't flat out deny having

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<v Speaker 1>the affair. Instead, the release said, during the past few months,

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<v Speaker 1>I have become accustomed to reading more and more ludicrous

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<v Speaker 1>stories about my private life. What appeared this morning is

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<v Speaker 1>just one further example. The simple truth is that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happily married to a wonderful wife and two very special kids. Now,

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>to make things more awkward, this was actually a pre

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>planned family skiing holiday with her parents, sister and mother

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 1>in law all coming along. God, wouldn't you try and

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<v Speaker 1>pull out of this trip? Like that would be the worst? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be. Now, David was granted compassionate leave by

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Real Madrid, which saw him miss the club's Champion League

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 1>game to join the family vacation. Can you imagine the

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>heckling he would have got on the ground had he played.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he would have rather been there than on

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<v Speaker 1>this family trip. I mean, it was so humiliating for him,

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<v Speaker 1>but also for poor Victoria. Imagine having to be around

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<v Speaker 1>all your family and you're trying to deal with all

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>of this bullshit. Now, brand Beckham was out in full

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>force on the ski slopes the next morning. There were

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<v Speaker 1>photos of the couple strolling hand in hand and frolicking

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<v Speaker 1>in the snow. As you can imagine, this was a

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>strategy from their PR team, who wanted to show a

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<v Speaker 1>united force and to act as though there was no

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<v Speaker 1>merit in these allegations. Victoria has opened up since sharing

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<v Speaker 1>what it was really like to live through the scandal.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, it was a nightmare from the minute we

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<v Speaker 1>opened the door in the morning. The press were there

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>in cars and everywhere we went we would get followed.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an absolute circus. In the Beckham documentary, she

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed that it was the most difficult moment of her marriage.

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>She said, it was the hardest period for us because

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like the world was against us. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. We were against each other, if I'm completely honest.

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, up until Madrid sometimes it felt like us

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>against everybody else. But we were together, we were connected,

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>we had each other. But when we were in Spain,

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>it didn't really feel like we had each other either,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's sad. I can't even begin to tell you

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>how hard it was and how it affected me. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>In another PR power play, less than a week after

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<v Speaker 1>the article came out, Victoria appeared on Anton Deck's show

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night Takeaway, and Victoria was interviewed by two kids

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>who they called Mini Anton Deck, and the kids proceeded

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>to ask her if they were planning on having any

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>more kids. Here's what she said, definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to have more babies, not just yet, but I

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<v Speaker 3>definitely want to have more babies.

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<v Speaker 4>Are definitely more movies at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not planning on making babies at the moment, but

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<v Speaker 3>we're what they call practicing to make them, which is

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 3>really good fun.

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>In this interview, she also left a message on David's

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<v Speaker 1>phone saying I love you, and she just came across

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>as really happy and smiling and was joking around. You

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>would never have guessed that behind the scenes so much

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.239
<v Speaker 1>was going on. What a perfect media performance for her,

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>because you'd watch this and think, ah, maybe it is

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>all bullshit. Meanwhile, the pr Beckham machine was working over

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>time trying to just credit Rebecca Loos's reputation and clawback David's.

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Newspapers were being fed stories about Rebecca's supposed lesbian affairs

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and affairs with three tennis players, whilst ex colleagues were

0:29:56.680 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>giving derogatory quotes about her to journalists. How clear the

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>media were trying to pay a certain picture of Rebecca.

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>They tried to slut shame her and also make her

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>out to be this fame hungry person. Yeah. Well, she

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>very quickly became fed up with that and she was

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>over being called a liar. So she hit back by

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>appearing on SkyTV for her first televised interview, and unsurprisingly,

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>that interview drew in near record ratings, and on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>she told the full story of how the affair unfolded,

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<v Speaker 1>or allegedly unfolded. I should say, in the interview, she

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make it clear that she wasn't the cause

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<v Speaker 1>of the problem in the marriage, saying the problems were

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>there long before she came into the picture. Now, the

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>genuineness of her comments was called into question when during

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the interview she said that she never intended to break

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>David and Victoria up, especially when there's young kids involved,

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and she hoped that they stayed together. Oh, she only

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to sell the story to the media to

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>make lots of money. Well, yeah, she did make a

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<v Speaker 1>further one hundred and fifty thousand pounds the interview. I

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>also don't understand because in that interview. She also said

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 1>that she adored David and she still does. So if

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 1>he had those types of feelings still for someone that

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you were apparently with, then why would you then wish

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that couple the best of luck and hope that they

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>stayed together. It just doesn't come across as very genuine. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes across as very jaded now in the press.

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Rebecca also made derogatory remarks about Victoria's body, so she

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>claimed that David said he hated Victoria's thin body and

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>loved her like a sister, but they had a sexless marriage.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>She also admitted to using Victoria's hair clips while she

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>showered in David's hotel room. Rebecca then went on to

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>describe Victoria as a very cold, severe, unsmiling woman behind

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the scenes, and said she was very sour and difficult

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to get along with and was envious of Rebecca from

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the first time they met. She finished by saying she

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't like standing next to a woman who looked better

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>than her. Gosh, I can see why Posh was giving

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>her the cold shit. If this, you know, she obviously

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>was picking up that something wasn't right. I just love

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>this bullshit that she's so happy that Posh and bexer

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>together and she wants them to be happy with their kids. Yet, oh,

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>she's not very nice and David said she was too

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>skinny and they had a sexless man. Also, she's just

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>playing into all the headlines about Posh, how she never

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>smiles and that she's too thin. Well, she's just weaponizing

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>her body. She knows that that has been an obsession

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>of the media, so she wanted to use it against

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>her as well.

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Max Clifford, who's Rebecca's publicist, he also made cutting comments

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>about Victoria, telling The Evening Standard newspaper that no one

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>had been harmed by the allegations, especially not Victoria. He said,

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>for Victoria, it's given her what she craves most, saturation coverage.

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>The only reason she's famous is because she's Missus Beckham.

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Her career disappeared years ago. He added, I wouldn't say

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>she's enjoying it, but given the choice between no publicity

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and this, she would choose this. It's quite hypocritical for

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the pr manager of Beckham's Misty, who has made a

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>name for herself from sharing this story publicly, to say that. Well,

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>also the fact that she has gone and seeked out

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>a publicist to go and break the story. I mean,

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>she did go on to appear on a number of

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>reality shows like Love Ireland the Celebrity Edition. The thing

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>that I disliked the most about this is the two

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>women are being pitted against each other. You know, the

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>common denominator in this story is David Beckham. He is

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>the one who is married and should be doing better

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>by posh. But now we're putting these two women against

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>each other. But why isn't she angry at David? It

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 1>just seems like she's turned all of her anger towards Victoria,

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and probably because David doesn't want to be with her

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and she blames Victoria. Now, as we mentioned earlier, these

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>cheating allegations were touched upon in the Beckham doco recently

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>now David addressed the controversy, saying there was some horrible

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>stories which were difficult to deal with. It was the

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>first time me and Victoria had been put under that

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of pressure in our marriage. Now, throughout the documentary

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>they did not name Rebecca. However, following it, Rebecca appeared

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>on Good Morning Britain accusing David of playing the victim

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and making her look like a liar. She said she

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 1>never got any warning that they would be talking about

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>the scandal, which was a little bit hypocritical considering that

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>she gave them no warning when she went to the

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.399
<v Speaker 1>press with her story. She said that she had tried

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>very hard to let it go and move on, but

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 1>it really bothered her that she felt she was made

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>to look like the bad person and said it was

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>both of their faults. Now, she said in hindsight that

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>she wished she'd gone about this all in a very

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>different way now. If you're wondering what Rebecca has been

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 1>up to in the last twenty years, she is working

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>now as a yoga instructor and a small town of

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 1>only two thousand, five hundred people. And before making the move,

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:47.240
<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned, Sophie, she was criticized for chasing fame,

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>appearing on Celebrity Love Island and The X Factor. The

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Rebecca Lowes story opened up a floodgate, with other women

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>coming forward to say they also had affairs with David.

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>A string of European models claimed they'd slept with David,

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>including supermodel Esther Candees, who was reportedly hurried out of

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>David's hotel room when Victoria made a surprise visit. David

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>was also linked to a Spanish woman called Neuri Bermudez,

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>who was allegedly seen repeatedly visiting his hotel. Now. She

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>was a self confessed lifelong Real Madrid fan and claimed

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:22.360
<v Speaker 1>to have slept with at least six first team players,

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>including David Beckham. She asked for twelve thousand pounds to

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:30.240
<v Speaker 1>tell her story on a local front. Australian model Sarah

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Marbeck claimed that she had a two year affair with

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Beckham after she met him in Singapore in two thousand

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and one during Manchester United's Asian tour. Allegedly, just four

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>hours after meeting in the hotel, the pair had sex.

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>She also claims David got her a ticket to watch

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>England play Italy in March two thousand and two in

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Leeds and when they met in the player's tunnel he

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>was all hot and sweaty. Now, Sarah said David told

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>her he felt like he'd been hit with the sledgehammer

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.879
<v Speaker 1>when he saw her and loved the way she tied

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 1>her hairback. Currently, David told Sarah he loved her and

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>they even had pet nicknames for each other. David's was

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Peter Pan, and Sarah's was tinker Bell, while Victoria was Wendy.

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I found that so gross that Victoria is included in

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 1>these nicknames. Now, Sarah said that the only time they

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>stopped communicating over the two year period was when Posh

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and Becks's second child, Romeo, was born. However, by August

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two, the relationship was calling off with

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 1>longer gaps between messages. So a week after Rebecca's story ran,

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Neville ran a star As story with the headline I'm

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Beck's love at number two. This time, the article was

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>seven pages long and went into even more explicit detail. Now,

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you would have thought that the news of the World's

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>story would have put a stop to David's alleged affairs,

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>but it didn't. In October two thousand and four, a

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>beautician called daniel Heath publicly claimed she too had an

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 1>affair with David. The worst bit is daniel had become

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 1>friends with viv Victoria after visiting the Beckhams home to

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>do Posha's spray tan. Now this story is really wild

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:09.359
<v Speaker 1>because Victoria first met Danielle at a beauty parlor, and

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 1>later Victoria invited her over to their house. So she

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>could do her spray tan. And when she first introduced

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Danielle to David, she said, Danielle, this is David. David,

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you've probably shagged her already. I'm assuming that's part of

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>her dry sense of humor because this was on the

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>cusp of those cheating scandals coming out, so she probably

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>jokingly assumed that everyone in Spain had already slept with

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>her husband. It just makes me like her so much.

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I love that kind of humor. Now, two weeks later,

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>daniel alleges she did shag David. So she slept with

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>David in the Beckham family home allegedly, and she said

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 1>they were intimate again. A month later, now, David had

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>allegedly flown Danielle out to Madrid to give him a

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>spray tan for a photo shoot. These cheating allegations did

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>make people question whether Victoria and David were in an

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>open relationship, considering Posh had jokingly said, oh, have you

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>shagged him already? But I actually just think that was

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>part of our sense of humor and the timing of

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it all, because this alleged affair happened only four months

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.280
<v Speaker 1>after Rebecca Loser story broke. I think people are questioning

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 1>it more so because they think, well, why would you

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>stay with your partner if he was constantly cheating on you?

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Like she must be okay.

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>The saddest part of this story is that Victoria announced

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>she was three months pregnant with their third child, just

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>a day before David allegedly slept with Dannielle. Now, David

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>has denied these claims and put out a joint statement

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>with Victoria, saying it is even more distressing when we

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>are expecting our third child. The allegations are completely and

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.800
<v Speaker 1>totally untrue and are in the hands of our lawyers.

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.399
<v Speaker 1>They added, we are sick and tired of people trying

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.320
<v Speaker 1>to make money out of our family.

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:45.240
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and seven, David again shocked the football

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>world by announcing he was coming to America. So he

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.959
<v Speaker 1>signed a five year deal with La Galaxy worth three

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>point five million dollars. At the time, it was reported

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 1>he was taking a seventy percent pay cut. However, the

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>contract had unique stipulations. These stipulations allowed him to take

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:09.399
<v Speaker 1>an undisclosed percentage of all club revenue, as well as

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the right to purchase an MLS expansion team at a

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>fixed rate upon retirement when they talk about club revenue,

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>So David got a cut out of everything, including beer

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>that was bought at the game's, uniforms, merchandise, everything, So

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>it was a very lucrative deal. I wonder if this

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>was to fit him under their salary cap, like I'm

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>assuming a lot of the other players weren't receiving nearly

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 1>as much money. But it is complex because they did

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:37.359
<v Speaker 1>have a two million dollar salary cap, and obviously David

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Beckham's salary exceeded that. But they actually invented this thing

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 1>they now call the Beckham cap, where you can add

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 1>one player who is worth way more than everyone else.

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was just obviously made because they desperately

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>needed him to join their football league. Now, all of

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>these little loopholes meant that his annual salary turned into

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>more than five hundred million dollars, making it one of

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the most lucrative contracts in sporting history. This move was

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>also very much welcomed by Victoria, who was keen for

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a fresh start and more privacy from the press. She

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>even landed her own show called Coming to America, and

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>in it she poked fun at the Rebecca louse scandal.

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 1>So as part of the plot, Victoria is looking for

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:24.320
<v Speaker 1>a personal assistant and outlines her criteria. Here's what she said.

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.479
<v Speaker 3>She can't be too good looking, she can't be too thin.

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>It's all to be about it. In the show, Victoria's

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>prospective PA asks if she'll be assisting David, and she

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>comes back with this.

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 3>No, why do you want to No?

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean eate. If him attractive, he's no, he's

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>not ugly. This was your typical naughty's reality show. It

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of dramatic music and cutaway shots, and

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>it's quite ironic because after this scene Victoria does employ

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the new PA. We actually don't see David much in

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>this show at all, his own in the start, at

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:03.840
<v Speaker 1>this weird photoshoot that they're doing together, and then in

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the last scene when he and Victoria arrive at the

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>airport and enter America. Now, despite having a scandal free

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 1>few years, in twenty ten, another cheating scandal hit. This

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 1>time it was a sex worker called Irma Nikki, who

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>alleges David hired her to have sex within five times

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>in hotel rooms across London and New York in two

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven. Now David emphatically denies these allegations, calling

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>them ridiculous. It must be noted that Irma actually didn't

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:39.240
<v Speaker 1>have any evidence. The validity of her comments were also

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>called into question when she claimed that David answered the

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>door with wet hair. Now, looking at this time frame,

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>his hair has been so highly photographed. He probably has

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the most photographed hair in the world. So his lawyer

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.359
<v Speaker 1>was able to go through and pick the dates and

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>actually say he had a Grade one haircut when you

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>currently caught up with him, and his hair wasn't long

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:06.240
<v Speaker 1>enough for it to stay wet at all. It's terrible

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.399
<v Speaker 1>because I do feel like some of these people are

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 1>being a bit opportunistic, especially when they don't have any proof. Yeah. Well,

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 1>David responded by suing the publication for twenty five million dollars,

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 1>saying it caused him and his family great anguish and

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>emotional distress and adversely affected his personal and professional life. Now,

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve, there was a very fleeting rumor that

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 1>he had an affair with opera sing at Katherine Jenkins,

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>And this was the time of social media, so people

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>actually had platforms to defend themselves, and Catherine came out

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:43.399
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter to deny the allegation. She said that she'd

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 1>only met him twice at the Military Awards in twenty

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>ten and on a night out at the West End

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>that Prince Harry also happened to attend, and she said

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>that she never arranged to meet up with him and

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>nothing went on between them. So this was quite a

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>different allegation because she actually didn't make the allegation herself,

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:02.879
<v Speaker 1>and this was the first time it was someone who

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 1>actually had their own profile. So the last cheating scandal

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>is bizarre. In twenty eighteen, a rumor started circulating on

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Twitter that David had an affair with his then six

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:17.319
<v Speaker 1>year old daughter's school teacher. The rumor got legs and

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 1>suddenly it was being reported that he got her pregnant

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:23.439
<v Speaker 1>and a divorce announcement was pending. This rumor was so

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 1>strong that bookies stopped taking bets on whether David and

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Victoria were getting a divorce, as it was treated as

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 1>a surefire thing. This whole story, if you can believe, it,

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:37.439
<v Speaker 1>was generated by one rogue tweet. It wasn't even by

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>anyone verified. It was just a random person saying that

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>they'd heard that David had had an affair with his

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 1>daughter's teacher and they just knew, but don't ask them how,

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and that's where it all spiraled out of control. Now,

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.959
<v Speaker 1>the couple did release a statement calling it a crock

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 1>of shit. This was probably the strongest statement they've ever

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>put out. They said there is no statement due for divorce,

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 1>and this is fake social media and that it's all

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>very bizarre and an embarrassing waste of time. Imagine the

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 1>poor teacher, like, how embarrassing for her being dragged into this. Well,

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>it turns out that David had never even met Harper's teacher,

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.359
<v Speaker 1>and the father actually came out blasting the rumors and

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the media, saying it was nonsense and confirmed that his

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>daughter had never even met David Bergell. Now, a lot

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>of good came from Possenbeck's move to America. Victoria made

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a seamless transition from music to the fashion world. So

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 1>when she left the Spice scales, Victoria walked in runways,

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>edited magazines, and had lucrative brand deals, but her dream

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 1>was to cut it as a credible fashion designer. So

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>fashion has always been victorious passion more so than music,

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 1>and she launched her self titled fashion line in two

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight, and this has been supported by the

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 1>upper echelon of the fashion industry, including Anna Wintour, who

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>is a regular guest at her shows. It's pretty impressive

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 1>because her label has been regularly shown during New York

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 1>and London Fashion Weeks and also made its debut at

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Paris Fashion Week in twenty twenty two and again in

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:08.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three. And her clothes are a far cry

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>from her nineties posh spice look. She is known for

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:15.280
<v Speaker 1>creating clothes that are very streamlined and esthetic. Now, following

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:19.240
<v Speaker 1>the success of her fashion label, Victoria launched Victoria Beckham

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Beauty in twenty nineteen, right before the pandemic, and her

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 1>beauty line has now helped grow both of the businesses,

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 1>so it's now at a stage where revenue is up

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 1>by forty percent in twenty twenty one.

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 1>And as for a musical return, Victoria has been involved

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 1>in a few Spice Girls reunions over the years. The

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 1>first was in two thousand and eight when their Greatest

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Hits album was released, and later during the twenty twelve

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:48.280
<v Speaker 1>London Olympics closing ceremony in twenty nineteen, fans were excited

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>when the band teased that they would be holding a

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 1>reunion tour. However, this was quickly squashed days later when

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria told Vogue, I'm not going on tour now. While

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria made it quite clear that she was not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be involved, the rest of the girls went ahead

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<v Speaker 1>on tour without her, and they launched their Spice World

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<v Speaker 1>Tour in twenty nineteen as a four piece band without Victoria,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did perform in the UK and Ireland.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>They played thirteen sold out dates and played to seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand fans and earned themselves seventy eight point two

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in ticket sales. Victoria wrote on Instagram, I

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<v Speaker 1>won't be joining my girls on stage again, but being

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<v Speaker 1>in the Spice Skulls was a hugely important part of

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<v Speaker 1>my life and I wish them so much love and

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<v Speaker 1>fun as they go back on tour next year. I

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<v Speaker 1>know they will put on an amazing show and the

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic fans past and present are going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful time, and that is where we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>leave you. I can't wait to see what the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years hold for Victoria and David, hopefully not

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<v Speaker 1>too many more cheating scandals. It feels like they are

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<v Speaker 1>on the right path. Finally, I hate to admit it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have found myself googling Victoria Beckham a lot

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<v Speaker 1>recently after doing this deep dive, and I've been obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with trying to find clips of her singing the Spice

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<v Speaker 1>Girls songs live, because it's been so much said about

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<v Speaker 1>how she never got to sing as much as the

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<v Speaker 1>other girls. Well, she hardly had any solo bits, so

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<v Speaker 1>it is hard even watching the film clips to try

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<v Speaker 1>and catch a bit of her voice. It's funny because

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<v Speaker 1>after I watched the Beckham documentary, I fell in love

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<v Speaker 1>with David Beckham, but I think I slowly fell out

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<v Speaker 1>of love with him as this series has gone on,

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<v Speaker 1>and fell in love instead with Victoria Beckham. She just

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<v Speaker 1>seems like such an incredible woman and I've thoroughly enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>putting this series together. Thank you so much for listening

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<v Speaker 1>to it. If you have enjoyed it, could you please

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you leave us a rating on Spotify and

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<v Speaker 1>also Apple podcast. And I'm very excited for next week's series.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many details we can give out yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is an Australian story. A lot of you

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<v Speaker 1>have been asking for an Australian deep dive. We will

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<v Speaker 1>be delivering this and we cannot wait for it. This

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<v Speaker 1>episode was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana

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<v Speaker 1>people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.