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Speaker 1: Before we get into the episode, we wanted to issue

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Speaker 1: a trigger warning as we discuss themes about eating disorders.

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Speaker 1: The Beckhams had become English royalty. The public were obsessed

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Speaker 1: with the couple and their every move made headlines. I

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Speaker 1: con them golden balls.

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Speaker 2: You know now.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be true and kind of those kings. I

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Speaker 3: shouldn't have said.

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Speaker 1: No one knew though, that the Beckham Juggernau was about

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Speaker 1: to go international. A shop moved to Madrid, put Posh

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Speaker 1: and Becks's marriage under the spotlight.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I love my family, I have a wonderful life,

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Speaker 2: but football is everything to me and joining Real Madrid

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Speaker 1: Then came the onslaught of cheating allegations that rocked the marriage.

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Speaker 4: I felt like a whole. I felt really cheap, and

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Speaker 4: I felt used, and I said, I'm not not even

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Speaker 4: why why am I doing this?

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Speaker 1: We are journalist Sophie Kate and Amy Torbert, and this

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Speaker 1: is our new series Unspoken, where we bring you the

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Speaker 1: unspoken stories behind the big pop culture headlines to rock

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Speaker 1: the nineties and early naughties. When we left you last,

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Speaker 1: David and Victoria had officially become the Beckhams. They had

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Speaker 1: an absolutely extravagant wedding. They also had just given birth

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Speaker 1: to their first child, Brooklyn, and were dealing with absolutely

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Speaker 1: terrifying kidnapping attempts. Now in the midst of all of this,

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Speaker 1: Victoria was also being hounded by the press, and they

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Speaker 1: had an absolute obsession with her weight. So over the years,

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Speaker 1: she's been called everything from porky posh to skeleton posh

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Speaker 1: and the media. Speculation about her weight went into overdrive

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Speaker 1: following the birth of her first child, Brooklyn, in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety nine. Now, not long after she gave birth, a

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Speaker 1: picture of Victoria appeared on the front page of the newspaper,

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Speaker 1: where a journalists pointed out every part of her body

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Speaker 1: where she needed to focus on losing weight. She did

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Speaker 1: which sparked speculation of an eating disorder. Victoria denied the

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Speaker 1: claims that she she was anorexic, insisting that her shape

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Speaker 1: had changed naturally after giving birth. She said her issue

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Speaker 1: giving birth to Brooklyn, Victoria appeared on TF five Friday,

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Speaker 1: which was hosted by Chris Evans, and unbelievably, during the

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Speaker 1: live interview, she was forced to weigh herself in front

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Speaker 1: of the audience and cameras. Let's throw to how it

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Speaker 1: went down.

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Speaker 4: Is you wait back to normal?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Can I check?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, Jerry, didn't you on?

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Speaker 1: But Jerry?

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Speaker 3: Was that really smart?

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Speaker 2: Two?

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Speaker 1: Number two is great?

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Speaker 4: You can afford Number two is?

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Speaker 1: Can't you.

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Speaker 1: The last time I saw people being weighed on television

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Speaker 1: The Biggest Loser was on and we all know what

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Speaker 1: a mess that television show turned into. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: if this was filmed today, the uproar making a female

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Speaker 1: the worst part is Victoria said, oh, you did this

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Speaker 1: and it's that expectation that well, you better hurry up

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Speaker 1: and get rid of this way. Posh did reflect on

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Speaker 1: In two thousand, the Spy Skills announced they were going

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the end of the spy skills, so they

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Speaker 1: never actually officially broke up. It sounds like that denial

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Speaker 1: Victoria did embark on a short lived solo career. She

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Speaker 1: released her first solo album called Victoria Beckham in two

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Speaker 1: but instead of focusing on the music, David Parkinson flatter

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Speaker 5: Three questions I got to ask you right right? Is

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Speaker 5: it true that David wears your knickers? First question, say,

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Speaker 5: Those are the three questions everybody in the audience out

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Speaker 4: Knickers to star with.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm the only person that actually wears my knickers.

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Speaker 3: Play the headlines now Parky borrows Poshi's knickers.

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Speaker 1: I liked how she tried to divert the question, but

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Because I eat anorexic?

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Speaker 1: Why, it's clear to me listening to this interview that

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Speaker 1: This interview just got worse because Michael Parkinson then asked

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Speaker 1: I mean it was so uncomfortable to watch, particularly when

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Speaker 1: Well. After years of denying the eating disorder rumors, in

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Speaker 1: she said her obsession with her body image began in

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Speaker 1: to think that we expect female celebrities to act as

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Speaker 1: clear to see that nothing is ever good enough for

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Speaker 1: media she adored him. She claimed they text each other

439
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 1: thirty times a day, which, to point out, in the

440
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: early two thousands would have cost you a lot of

441
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: money when that wasn't a problem for becks No. She

442
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 1: also alleges that they sexed twice a week. She recalled

443
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 1: visiting a museum with her parents and having to rush

444
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: to the bathroom to finish the sexting in there. I'm

445
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: sure her parents were thrilled to hear this information in

446
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: the newspaper. Despite all the sexting, Rebecca said that over

447
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: their four months relationship, they only had sex six times,

448
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: and I just wonder was this due to a lack

449
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: of opportunity. Well, if Posh wasn't there, I feel like

450
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: they would have had a lot of opportunity. I think

451
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: it's more that Beckham probably had other mistresses going on. Allegedly.

452
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: In April two thousand and four, Rebecca sold her story

453
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: to the News of the World in what was described

454
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: as one of the last great kiss and tell stories.

455
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: The tabloid went to great lengths to get the scoop,

456
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: so journalist Neville Thurlbeck said, securing the story was like

457
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: a spy operation. He detailed the lengths he went to

458
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: in his book Tabloid Secrets, The Stories Behind the Headlines Now.

459
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: Neville said, his editor called him into his office and said,

460
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: the biggest story of the year is about to be dropped.

461
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: By this stage, Rebecca had enlisted the help of publicist

462
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: Max Clifford, who was helping her sell a story to

463
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: the paper.

464
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 3: Now.

465
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: In exchange for her story, Rebecca wanted one hundred thousand pounds,

466
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: which by the end of the investigation ended up being

467
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty thousand pounds. In exchange for the money,

468
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: the newspaper wanted an interview with all the launchy texts

469
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: and proof, so Neville flew to Madrid straight away and

470
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: spent two weeks hiding out with Rebecca, trying to catch

471
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: David out for the cheating. Can you imagine them sitting

472
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: in the hotel room just sending off these rogue texts

473
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: to David Beckham. You think about it when you really

474
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: like someone and you're hoping to get a text back. Well,

475
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: this would have been magnified because she's trying to prove

476
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: that this affair actually went on.

477
00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

478
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: Well, the reason that they were trying to get Beckham

479
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: to text them back was that he was always texting

480
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,719
Speaker 1: her from different numbers, and they needed proof that it

481
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: actually was him. Isn't this just a major red flag

482
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: if your partner is constantly changing their phone number. I

483
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: understand that this is something that celebrities do in case

484
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: someone finds out what their number is, but this seemed

485
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: to be happening on a regular basis. The journalist said

486
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: that he changed his phone number more times than men

487
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: changed their soul. Well, I feel like you'd have a

488
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: pretty good excuse for it. Eventually, Rebecca did get a

489
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: response to one of her calls, but all they heard

490
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: down the line was a silence, and then a person

491
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: on the other line burst into boyish giggles. Now Neville

492
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: was about to pull the pin on the story until

493
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: Rebecca discovered a piece of paper that had Beckham's Management's

494
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: company details on it, and at the bottom, in David's

495
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: handwriting was his name followed by a phone number. Now

496
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: that phone number match raunchy text that had been sent

497
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: to Rebecca. Now the news of the affair broke with

498
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: a five page spread in News of the World that

499
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: Sunday morning. The story framed David as lonely and said

500
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: Rebecca was there to comfort him. It also described Victoria

501
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: and David's long distance marriage as troubled and said he

502
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: felt abandoned by Victoria. It seems like they're just trying

503
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: to paint Victoria badly in this story, even though it's

504
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: about him being a well. The tone running through the

505
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: article was, of course, he was going to cheat if

506
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: she wasn't there keeping an eye on him, And the

507
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: article really didn't spare any detail. It printed the array

508
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: of graphic text messages where David allegedly explained what he

509
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: wanted to do to Rebecca in bed Now, Rebecca was

510
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: always portrayed as the villain in the press. Well, David

511
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: was this lovable puppy dog who was lonely and needed attention.

512
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: The public really felt like she was trying to make

513
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: a career out of sleeping with a married man, and

514
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: that she wanted to inflict pain on Victoria through the

515
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: press that she was putting out there. I can see

516
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: why people thought that, because it was publicized that she

517
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: got three hundred and fifty thousand dollars for selling the story.

518
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: If she had perhaps come out and told the story

519
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: for free, people may have been more kind towards her.

520
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

521
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: Well, her publicers probably feared that this would be the case,

522
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: so asked her not to be named as the source

523
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: in the first story that came out and the news

524
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: of the world instead. It was bizarrely written from the

525
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: perspective of an unnamed source who was apparently a close

526
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: family friend of Rebecca's that she had confided in. This

527
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: is a general tactic of journalists. They'll use an unnamed

528
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: source when quite often it is the person involved in

529
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: the story who was giving these quotes. However, in this case,

530
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: it all didn't quite add up, because why would Rebecca's

531
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: friend one have copies of her hundreds of text messages,

532
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: majority of which were of a sexual nature. And I

533
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: can also hardly imagine a family friend giving this quote.

534
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: So one of the quotes said David was a sensational lover.

535
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: The sex was highly charged, explosive. They would make love

536
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: for hours. Surely the general public could read between the

537
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: lines and knew that this story had come direct from Rebecca.

538
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: There was no way she wasn't involved in it. The

539
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: journalist did out of line about how she was approached

540
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: for commt and didn't give any but surely people could

541
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: put two and two together. Oh definitely. It did feel

542
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: like Victoria was being mocked when this story came out,

543
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: because the text messages really ignited a national guessing game

544
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: because some of the words had been censored out, so

545
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: the public was encouraged to try and guess what words

546
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: were missing. And can you imagine how that would have

547
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: felt for Victoria. It would have been absolutely soul destroying

548
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: that everyone is getting fun out of your misery and

549
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: all playing a game to guess these sordid things that

550
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: your husband had said to his personal assistant. Well, David

551
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: Beckham's team was quick to release a statement, and it

552
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: must be noted that David didn't flat out deny having

553
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: the affair. Instead, the release said, during the past few months,

554
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: I have become accustomed to reading more and more ludicrous

555
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: stories about my private life. What appeared this morning is

556
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: just one further example. The simple truth is that I'm

557
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: happily married to a wonderful wife and two very special kids. Now,

558
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: to make things more awkward, this was actually a pre

559
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: planned family skiing holiday with her parents, sister and mother

560
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: in law all coming along. God, wouldn't you try and

561
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: pull out of this trip? Like that would be the worst? Yeah,

562
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: it would be. Now, David was granted compassionate leave by

563
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: Real Madrid, which saw him miss the club's Champion League

564
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: game to join the family vacation. Can you imagine the

565
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: heckling he would have got on the ground had he played.

566
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: I think he would have rather been there than on

567
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: this family trip. I mean, it was so humiliating for him,

568
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: but also for poor Victoria. Imagine having to be around

569
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: all your family and you're trying to deal with all

570
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: of this bullshit. Now, brand Beckham was out in full

571
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: force on the ski slopes the next morning. There were

572
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: photos of the couple strolling hand in hand and frolicking

573
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: in the snow. As you can imagine, this was a

574
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: strategy from their PR team, who wanted to show a

575
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: united force and to act as though there was no

576
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: merit in these allegations. Victoria has opened up since sharing

577
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: what it was really like to live through the scandal.

578
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: She said, it was a nightmare from the minute we

579
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: opened the door in the morning. The press were there

580
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: in cars and everywhere we went we would get followed.

581
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: It was an absolute circus. In the Beckham documentary, she

582
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: confirmed that it was the most difficult moment of her marriage.

583
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: She said, it was the hardest period for us because

584
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: it felt like the world was against us. And here's

585
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: the thing. We were against each other, if I'm completely honest.

586
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: You know, up until Madrid sometimes it felt like us

587
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: against everybody else. But we were together, we were connected,

588
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: we had each other. But when we were in Spain,

589
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: it didn't really feel like we had each other either,

590
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: and that's sad. I can't even begin to tell you

591
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: how hard it was and how it affected me. Now.

592
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: In another PR power play, less than a week after

593
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: the article came out, Victoria appeared on Anton Deck's show

594
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Takeaway, and Victoria was interviewed by two kids

595
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: who they called Mini Anton Deck, and the kids proceeded

596
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: to ask her if they were planning on having any

597
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: more kids. Here's what she said, definitely.

598
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: Want to have more babies, not just yet, but I

599
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: definitely want to have more babies.

600
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 4: Are definitely more movies at the moment.

601
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: We're not planning on making babies at the moment, but

602
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: we're what they call practicing to make them, which is

603
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: really good fun.

604
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: In this interview, she also left a message on David's

605
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: phone saying I love you, and she just came across

606
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: as really happy and smiling and was joking around. You

607
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: would never have guessed that behind the scenes so much

608
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,239
Speaker 1: was going on. What a perfect media performance for her,

609
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: because you'd watch this and think, ah, maybe it is

610
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: all bullshit. Meanwhile, the pr Beckham machine was working over

611
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: time trying to just credit Rebecca Loos's reputation and clawback David's.

612
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: Newspapers were being fed stories about Rebecca's supposed lesbian affairs

613
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: and affairs with three tennis players, whilst ex colleagues were

614
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: giving derogatory quotes about her to journalists. How clear the

615
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: media were trying to pay a certain picture of Rebecca.

616
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: They tried to slut shame her and also make her

617
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: out to be this fame hungry person. Yeah. Well, she

618
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: very quickly became fed up with that and she was

619
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: over being called a liar. So she hit back by

620
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: appearing on SkyTV for her first televised interview, and unsurprisingly,

621
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: that interview drew in near record ratings, and on the show,

622
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: she told the full story of how the affair unfolded,

623
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: or allegedly unfolded. I should say, in the interview, she

624
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: wanted to make it clear that she wasn't the cause

625
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: of the problem in the marriage, saying the problems were

626
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: there long before she came into the picture. Now, the

627
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: genuineness of her comments was called into question when during

628
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: the interview she said that she never intended to break

629
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: David and Victoria up, especially when there's young kids involved,

630
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: and she hoped that they stayed together. Oh, she only

631
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: just wanted to sell the story to the media to

632
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: make lots of money. Well, yeah, she did make a

633
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: further one hundred and fifty thousand pounds the interview. I

634
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: also don't understand because in that interview. She also said

635
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: that she adored David and she still does. So if

636
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: he had those types of feelings still for someone that

637
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: you were apparently with, then why would you then wish

638
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: that couple the best of luck and hope that they

639
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: stayed together. It just doesn't come across as very genuine. No,

640
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: it comes across as very jaded now in the press.

641
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: Rebecca also made derogatory remarks about Victoria's body, so she

642
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: claimed that David said he hated Victoria's thin body and

643
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: loved her like a sister, but they had a sexless marriage.

644
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: She also admitted to using Victoria's hair clips while she

645
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: showered in David's hotel room. Rebecca then went on to

646
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: describe Victoria as a very cold, severe, unsmiling woman behind

647
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: the scenes, and said she was very sour and difficult

648
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: to get along with and was envious of Rebecca from

649
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: the first time they met. She finished by saying she

650
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: didn't like standing next to a woman who looked better

651
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: than her. Gosh, I can see why Posh was giving

652
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: her the cold shit. If this, you know, she obviously

653
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: was picking up that something wasn't right. I just love

654
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: this bullshit that she's so happy that Posh and bexer

655
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: together and she wants them to be happy with their kids. Yet, oh,

656
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Speaker 1: she's not very nice and David said she was too

657
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: skinny and they had a sexless man. Also, she's just

658
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: playing into all the headlines about Posh, how she never

659
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: smiles and that she's too thin. Well, she's just weaponizing

660
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: her body. She knows that that has been an obsession

661
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: of the media, so she wanted to use it against

662
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Speaker 1: her as well.

663
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: Max Clifford, who's Rebecca's publicist, he also made cutting comments

665
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: about Victoria, telling The Evening Standard newspaper that no one

666
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: had been harmed by the allegations, especially not Victoria. He said,

667
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: for Victoria, it's given her what she craves most, saturation coverage.

668
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: The only reason she's famous is because she's Missus Beckham.

669
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: Her career disappeared years ago. He added, I wouldn't say

670
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: she's enjoying it, but given the choice between no publicity

671
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: and this, she would choose this. It's quite hypocritical for

672
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: the pr manager of Beckham's Misty, who has made a

673
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: name for herself from sharing this story publicly, to say that. Well,

674
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: also the fact that she has gone and seeked out

675
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: a publicist to go and break the story. I mean,

676
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: she did go on to appear on a number of

677
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: reality shows like Love Ireland the Celebrity Edition. The thing

678
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: that I disliked the most about this is the two

679
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: women are being pitted against each other. You know, the

680
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: common denominator in this story is David Beckham. He is

681
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: the one who is married and should be doing better

682
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: by posh. But now we're putting these two women against

683
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: each other. But why isn't she angry at David? It

684
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: just seems like she's turned all of her anger towards Victoria,

685
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: and probably because David doesn't want to be with her

686
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: and she blames Victoria. Now, as we mentioned earlier, these

687
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: cheating allegations were touched upon in the Beckham doco recently

688
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: now David addressed the controversy, saying there was some horrible

689
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: stories which were difficult to deal with. It was the

690
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: first time me and Victoria had been put under that

691
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: kind of pressure in our marriage. Now, throughout the documentary

692
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: they did not name Rebecca. However, following it, Rebecca appeared

693
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: on Good Morning Britain accusing David of playing the victim

694
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: and making her look like a liar. She said she

695
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: never got any warning that they would be talking about

696
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: the scandal, which was a little bit hypocritical considering that

697
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: she gave them no warning when she went to the

698
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: press with her story. She said that she had tried

699
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: very hard to let it go and move on, but

700
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: it really bothered her that she felt she was made

701
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: to look like the bad person and said it was

702
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: both of their faults. Now, she said in hindsight that

703
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: she wished she'd gone about this all in a very

704
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: different way now. If you're wondering what Rebecca has been

705
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: up to in the last twenty years, she is working

706
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: now as a yoga instructor and a small town of

707
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: only two thousand, five hundred people. And before making the move,

708
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Sophie, she was criticized for chasing fame,

709
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: appearing on Celebrity Love Island and The X Factor. The

710
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: Rebecca Lowes story opened up a floodgate, with other women

711
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: coming forward to say they also had affairs with David.

712
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: A string of European models claimed they'd slept with David,

713
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: including supermodel Esther Candees, who was reportedly hurried out of

714
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: David's hotel room when Victoria made a surprise visit. David

715
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: was also linked to a Spanish woman called Neuri Bermudez,

716
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: who was allegedly seen repeatedly visiting his hotel. Now. She

717
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: was a self confessed lifelong Real Madrid fan and claimed

718
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: to have slept with at least six first team players,

719
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: including David Beckham. She asked for twelve thousand pounds to

720
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: tell her story on a local front. Australian model Sarah

721
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: Marbeck claimed that she had a two year affair with

722
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Beckham after she met him in Singapore in two thousand

723
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: and one during Manchester United's Asian tour. Allegedly, just four

724
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: hours after meeting in the hotel, the pair had sex.

725
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: She also claims David got her a ticket to watch

726
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: England play Italy in March two thousand and two in

727
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: Leeds and when they met in the player's tunnel he

728
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: was all hot and sweaty. Now, Sarah said David told

729
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: her he felt like he'd been hit with the sledgehammer

730
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: when he saw her and loved the way she tied

731
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: her hairback. Currently, David told Sarah he loved her and

732
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: they even had pet nicknames for each other. David's was

733
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: Peter Pan, and Sarah's was tinker Bell, while Victoria was Wendy.

734
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: I found that so gross that Victoria is included in

735
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: these nicknames. Now, Sarah said that the only time they

736
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: stopped communicating over the two year period was when Posh

737
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: and Becks's second child, Romeo, was born. However, by August

738
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, the relationship was calling off with

739
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: longer gaps between messages. So a week after Rebecca's story ran,

740
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: Neville ran a star As story with the headline I'm

741
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: Beck's love at number two. This time, the article was

742
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: seven pages long and went into even more explicit detail. Now,

743
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: you would have thought that the news of the World's

744
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: story would have put a stop to David's alleged affairs,

745
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: but it didn't. In October two thousand and four, a

746
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: beautician called daniel Heath publicly claimed she too had an

747
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: affair with David. The worst bit is daniel had become

748
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: friends with viv Victoria after visiting the Beckhams home to

749
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: do Posha's spray tan. Now this story is really wild

750
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: because Victoria first met Danielle at a beauty parlor, and

751
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: later Victoria invited her over to their house. So she

752
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: could do her spray tan. And when she first introduced

753
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: Danielle to David, she said, Danielle, this is David. David,

754
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: you've probably shagged her already. I'm assuming that's part of

755
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: her dry sense of humor because this was on the

756
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: cusp of those cheating scandals coming out, so she probably

757
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: jokingly assumed that everyone in Spain had already slept with

758
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: her husband. It just makes me like her so much.

759
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: I love that kind of humor. Now, two weeks later,

760
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: daniel alleges she did shag David. So she slept with

761
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: David in the Beckham family home allegedly, and she said

762
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: they were intimate again. A month later, now, David had

763
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: allegedly flown Danielle out to Madrid to give him a

764
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: spray tan for a photo shoot. These cheating allegations did

765
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: make people question whether Victoria and David were in an

766
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: open relationship, considering Posh had jokingly said, oh, have you

767
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: shagged him already? But I actually just think that was

768
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: part of our sense of humor and the timing of

769
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: it all, because this alleged affair happened only four months

770
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: after Rebecca Loser story broke. I think people are questioning

771
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: it more so because they think, well, why would you

772
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: stay with your partner if he was constantly cheating on you?

773
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: Like she must be okay.

774
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

775
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: The saddest part of this story is that Victoria announced

776
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: she was three months pregnant with their third child, just

777
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: a day before David allegedly slept with Dannielle. Now, David

778
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: has denied these claims and put out a joint statement

779
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: with Victoria, saying it is even more distressing when we

780
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: are expecting our third child. The allegations are completely and

781
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: totally untrue and are in the hands of our lawyers.

782
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: They added, we are sick and tired of people trying

783
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: to make money out of our family.

784
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 5: Wow.

785
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 3: Well.

786
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: In two thousand and seven, David again shocked the football

787
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: world by announcing he was coming to America. So he

788
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 1: signed a five year deal with La Galaxy worth three

789
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: point five million dollars. At the time, it was reported

790
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: he was taking a seventy percent pay cut. However, the

791
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: contract had unique stipulations. These stipulations allowed him to take

792
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: an undisclosed percentage of all club revenue, as well as

793
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: the right to purchase an MLS expansion team at a

794
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: fixed rate upon retirement when they talk about club revenue,

795
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: So David got a cut out of everything, including beer

796
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: that was bought at the game's, uniforms, merchandise, everything, So

797
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: it was a very lucrative deal. I wonder if this

798
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: was to fit him under their salary cap, like I'm

799
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: assuming a lot of the other players weren't receiving nearly

800
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: as much money. But it is complex because they did

801
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: have a two million dollar salary cap, and obviously David

802
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: Beckham's salary exceeded that. But they actually invented this thing

803
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: they now call the Beckham cap, where you can add

804
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: one player who is worth way more than everyone else.

805
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just obviously made because they desperately

806
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: needed him to join their football league. Now, all of

807
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: these little loopholes meant that his annual salary turned into

808
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: more than five hundred million dollars, making it one of

809
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: the most lucrative contracts in sporting history. This move was

810
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: also very much welcomed by Victoria, who was keen for

811
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: a fresh start and more privacy from the press. She

812
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: even landed her own show called Coming to America, and

813
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: in it she poked fun at the Rebecca louse scandal.

814
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: So as part of the plot, Victoria is looking for

815
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: a personal assistant and outlines her criteria. Here's what she said.

816
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,479
Speaker 3: She can't be too good looking, she can't be too thin.

817
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: It's all to be about it. In the show, Victoria's

818
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: prospective PA asks if she'll be assisting David, and she

819
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: comes back with this.

820
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: No, why do you want to No?

821
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: No, I mean eate. If him attractive, he's no, he's

822
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: not ugly. This was your typical naughty's reality show. It

823
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: had a lot of dramatic music and cutaway shots, and

824
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: it's quite ironic because after this scene Victoria does employ

825
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: the new PA. We actually don't see David much in

826
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: this show at all, his own in the start, at

827
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: this weird photoshoot that they're doing together, and then in

828
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: the last scene when he and Victoria arrive at the

829
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: airport and enter America. Now, despite having a scandal free

830
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: few years, in twenty ten, another cheating scandal hit. This

831
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: time it was a sex worker called Irma Nikki, who

832
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: alleges David hired her to have sex within five times

833
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: in hotel rooms across London and New York in two

834
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: thousand and seven. Now David emphatically denies these allegations, calling

835
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: them ridiculous. It must be noted that Irma actually didn't

836
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: have any evidence. The validity of her comments were also

837
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: called into question when she claimed that David answered the

838
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: door with wet hair. Now, looking at this time frame,

839
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: his hair has been so highly photographed. He probably has

840
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: the most photographed hair in the world. So his lawyer

841
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: was able to go through and pick the dates and

842
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: actually say he had a Grade one haircut when you

843
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: currently caught up with him, and his hair wasn't long

844
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: enough for it to stay wet at all. It's terrible

845
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: because I do feel like some of these people are

846
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: being a bit opportunistic, especially when they don't have any proof. Yeah. Well,

847
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: David responded by suing the publication for twenty five million dollars,

848
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: saying it caused him and his family great anguish and

849
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: emotional distress and adversely affected his personal and professional life. Now,

850
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, there was a very fleeting rumor that

851
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: he had an affair with opera sing at Katherine Jenkins,

852
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: And this was the time of social media, so people

853
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: actually had platforms to defend themselves, and Catherine came out

854
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: on Twitter to deny the allegation. She said that she'd

855
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: only met him twice at the Military Awards in twenty

856
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: ten and on a night out at the West End

857
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: that Prince Harry also happened to attend, and she said

858
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: that she never arranged to meet up with him and

859
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: nothing went on between them. So this was quite a

860
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: different allegation because she actually didn't make the allegation herself,

861
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: and this was the first time it was someone who

862
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: actually had their own profile. So the last cheating scandal

863
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: is bizarre. In twenty eighteen, a rumor started circulating on

864
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: Twitter that David had an affair with his then six

865
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: year old daughter's school teacher. The rumor got legs and

866
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: suddenly it was being reported that he got her pregnant

867
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 1: and a divorce announcement was pending. This rumor was so

868
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: strong that bookies stopped taking bets on whether David and

869
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: Victoria were getting a divorce, as it was treated as

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Speaker 1: a surefire thing. This whole story, if you can believe, it,

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Speaker 1: was generated by one rogue tweet. It wasn't even by

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Speaker 1: anyone verified. It was just a random person saying that

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00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: they'd heard that David had had an affair with his

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00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: daughter's teacher and they just knew, but don't ask them how,

875
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: and that's where it all spiraled out of control. Now,

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Speaker 1: the couple did release a statement calling it a crock

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00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: of shit. This was probably the strongest statement they've ever

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00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: put out. They said there is no statement due for divorce,

879
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: and this is fake social media and that it's all

880
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: very bizarre and an embarrassing waste of time. Imagine the

881
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: poor teacher, like, how embarrassing for her being dragged into this. Well,

882
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: it turns out that David had never even met Harper's teacher,

883
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: and the father actually came out blasting the rumors and

884
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: the media, saying it was nonsense and confirmed that his

885
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: daughter had never even met David Bergell. Now, a lot

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00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: of good came from Possenbeck's move to America. Victoria made

887
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: a seamless transition from music to the fashion world. So

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00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: when she left the Spice scales, Victoria walked in runways,

889
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: edited magazines, and had lucrative brand deals, but her dream

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00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: was to cut it as a credible fashion designer. So

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00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: fashion has always been victorious passion more so than music,

892
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: and she launched her self titled fashion line in two

893
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Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and this has been supported by the

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Speaker 1: upper echelon of the fashion industry, including Anna Wintour, who

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Speaker 1: is a regular guest at her shows. It's pretty impressive

896
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: because her label has been regularly shown during New York

897
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: and London Fashion Weeks and also made its debut at

898
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: Paris Fashion Week in twenty twenty two and again in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. And her clothes are a far cry

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Speaker 1: from her nineties posh spice look. She is known for

901
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: creating clothes that are very streamlined and esthetic. Now, following

902
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: the success of her fashion label, Victoria launched Victoria Beckham

903
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: Beauty in twenty nineteen, right before the pandemic, and her

904
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Speaker 1: beauty line has now helped grow both of the businesses,

905
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Speaker 1: so it's now at a stage where revenue is up

906
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Speaker 1: by forty percent in twenty twenty one.

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00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 5: Wow.

908
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: And as for a musical return, Victoria has been involved

909
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: in a few Spice Girls reunions over the years. The

910
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: first was in two thousand and eight when their Greatest

911
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: Hits album was released, and later during the twenty twelve

912
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: London Olympics closing ceremony in twenty nineteen, fans were excited

913
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: when the band teased that they would be holding a

914
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: reunion tour. However, this was quickly squashed days later when

915
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Speaker 1: Victoria told Vogue, I'm not going on tour now. While

916
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: Victoria made it quite clear that she was not going

917
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Speaker 1: to be involved, the rest of the girls went ahead

918
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Speaker 1: on tour without her, and they launched their Spice World

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Speaker 1: Tour in twenty nineteen as a four piece band without Victoria,

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Speaker 1: and they did perform in the UK and Ireland.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: They played thirteen sold out dates and played to seven

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand fans and earned themselves seventy eight point two

924
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Speaker 1: million dollars in ticket sales. Victoria wrote on Instagram, I

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00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: won't be joining my girls on stage again, but being

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Speaker 1: in the Spice Skulls was a hugely important part of

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Speaker 1: my life and I wish them so much love and

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00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: fun as they go back on tour next year. I

929
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Speaker 1: know they will put on an amazing show and the

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Speaker 1: fantastic fans past and present are going to have a

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Speaker 1: wonderful time, and that is where we are going to

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Speaker 1: leave you. I can't wait to see what the next

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Speaker 1: couple of years hold for Victoria and David, hopefully not

934
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: too many more cheating scandals. It feels like they are

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Speaker 1: on the right path. Finally, I hate to admit it,

936
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Speaker 1: but I have found myself googling Victoria Beckham a lot

937
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: recently after doing this deep dive, and I've been obsessed

938
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Speaker 1: with trying to find clips of her singing the Spice

939
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: Girls songs live, because it's been so much said about

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00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: how she never got to sing as much as the

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Speaker 1: other girls. Well, she hardly had any solo bits, so

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Speaker 1: it is hard even watching the film clips to try

943
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Speaker 1: and catch a bit of her voice. It's funny because

944
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Speaker 1: after I watched the Beckham documentary, I fell in love

945
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: with David Beckham, but I think I slowly fell out

946
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: of love with him as this series has gone on,

947
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: and fell in love instead with Victoria Beckham. She just

948
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: seems like such an incredible woman and I've thoroughly enjoyed

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Speaker 1: putting this series together. Thank you so much for listening

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Speaker 1: to it. If you have enjoyed it, could you please

951
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: make sure you leave us a rating on Spotify and

952
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: also Apple podcast. And I'm very excited for next week's series.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many details we can give out yet,

954
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: but it is an Australian story. A lot of you

955
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 1: have been asking for an Australian deep dive. We will

956
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: be delivering this and we cannot wait for it. This

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Speaker 1: episode was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana

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Speaker 1: people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders

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Speaker 1: past and present.