WEBVTT - FRASER LUCK MELBOURNE LISTING 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:03.640 TV Reload the podcast last week. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:04.000 They're right. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.160 Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.880 thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode with 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.319 Fraser Luck from Melbourne Listings, which has already dropped its 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:16.759 first episode on Channel nine. I've always loved these kind 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.439 of shows because I think they're quite aspirational and the 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.520 type of personalities that they seem to always get rub 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.239 each other the wrong way, you know, to bring a 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.640 bit of spice. I think Fraser is sort of cast 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.240 to stir things up and it'll be interesting to see 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.440 how the dynamics change over the first season. Fraser will 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.559 talk about his time on Australian Survivor and how that 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.840 prepared him for Melbourne Listings. We will talk about how 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.360 the editing can make people different and if he thinks 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.760 that he is always the same when in front of 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.880 the camera. I will discuss the conflict of the show 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.720 and if you need that kind of conflict to make 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.080 these real estate shows pop. You will get everything from 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.280 what he thinks of the rest of the cast. If 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.440 he watches other shows for inspiration, especially these sort of 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.120 reality shows, probably even get some comparisons of this show 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.720 to LUTs Listing Sydney. There's actually so much to talk about, 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.200 with so many inside revelations. So guys sit back and 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.839 relax as we unpack the wonderful world of Melbourne Listing. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.679 How are you, Afraser? You well, I'm good. I am. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:18.280 I'm incredibly bored. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.600 I need the mental freedom, which is why Alex said, Hey, 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:22.399 Ben wants to chat. 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.480 I said, absolutely, I love a chat with you. But 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:26.960 I asked a speak you. I could have talked to 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.120 any of the others, but I chose you after watching 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.039 a couple of the episodes. But because I went back 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:36.680 and looked at und Looks of Survivor and chatted for 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.840 Survivor and it was a good one. It I got ratings, 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:41.319 so I was like, fraise, it's good for me. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:42.280 Good. I love that. 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.680 Yeah, I want to give you good ratings. It feels 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.240 like a million years ago, but it wasn't that long ago. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.600 It was beginning of last year, right, it would have 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:51.360 been February. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.200 What was that? Like, what's the recovery? 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:53.560 Right? 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.600 Because you know I always talk to people as soon 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.720 as that the show's sort of done. Does that one 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.000 of those shows where because I're kind of leading into 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.840 what we're talking about today with this show, but curious 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.800 about what that show did to you, like long term. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:07.840 Look, I was I was pretty fortunate. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.960 I had let's say, a follower base prior to Survivor, 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.520 so it didn't really change anything. It wasn't like an 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.320 overnight difference in terms of how people treat you or 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.800 getting noticed or you know, people seeing you out in 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:23.799 the street and whatever it might be. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:25.480 So that didn't really change. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.480 I think probably more the hangover of the show, to 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.720 be fair, was more the kind of almost psychological part 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.480 of it in terms of going from such an extreme 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.960 environment back into reality, Like it doesn't seem like it's 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.080 a big deal, and I was only a way for 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.840 you know, just under a month, but that was a 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:45.760 huge shock to the system. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.760 I remember doing competition based reality and then I'd go 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:52.400 to parties like the months that followed, any I kept thinking, 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:59.520 I'm going to nominate you. Four points penetrated my psychic. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:03.120 Yeah, it's really just the psychology of how to fix you, 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.120 because when you're on the island and Survivor, you become 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:11.919 incredibly paranoid. You have to be you know, you're scheming 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.480 everything and you're always kind of in this fight or 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.000 flight mode, and that's probably the hard thing to kind 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.720 of drop again trust people, Right, It's really hard to 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.840 explain because you think everyone's out to get you and 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.679 you kind of need to drop that realize no one's 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.480 out to get you in the real world. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.640 Well maybe they are and this show, on this show, 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.000 they are and they are. Like this is where I'm 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.960 going with this because we are talking about this news 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.080 show few and I was thinking about it's made by 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.640 different people, so maybe people with different creatives behind the 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.600 scenes can show you differently. Are we seeing a similar storyline? 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.600 Like do you feel like these are two characters that 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.280 we've seen on a show that have sort of been 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.960 created in an edited afterwards? Or can you see yourself 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.040 in both of these? Is this the same person. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:57.120 As far as myself? 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.880 Yeah? Like, what's your watching both of these? Because I'm assuming, well, 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:01.240 I haven't. 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.640 I haven't seen Listing Melbourne. Oh I haven't. I haven't. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.760 You know, I'm not as privy to, you know, watching 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.800 the episodes as you, but I was part of it. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.960 It's very different to Survivor, right, where there's so many 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:17.440 different characters and things happening that you don't know about 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.279 that when you actually watch it back. 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.559 There's a lot that you find out first time. 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.800 In this being one of five, you're very present and 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.040 you're very aware of the Even if there is something 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.400 said behind your back, you've got a pretty good read 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.719 on it, on what the situation is and what the 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.719 play is. And at the end of the day, I've 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.680 got to be able to read the play otherwise I'm 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.719 not good at my job. So I think there's I'm 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.600 not going to be shocked by anything that said or 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.640 anything that happens. I think I'm really up to date on, 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.320 you know, on the comings and goings of the show, 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.679 and you know in any drama that that will play 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.560 out because I was I was there in the field. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.360 But you're kind of the one that sets the cat 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.320 amongst the pigeons, like as in so I don't know. 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:02.720 What do you mean? Tell me more? 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.000 Well, like in episode one, you all go into this podcast, 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.200 So this is very surreal. This might be very triggering 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.200 some pts tell me, But like you're kind of the 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.320 one that sort of stirs things up a little bit. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.480 So I mean, I'm with you, and I've only seen 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.039 the first two episodes. I haven't seen the rest of 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.400 them know how it turns out, but I do feel 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.480 like you're a bit of the antagonist in a way, 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.200 and I was curious. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.080 But potentially I think maybe that's more. I'm just direct 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.080 and I'm just honest. You know, I'm not going to, 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.239 let's say, just go with the flow for the sake 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.440 of it or to make other people feel comfortable. I'm 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.320 going to speak my mind. I'm going to be confident 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.960 about it. That's how I've always been. And you know 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:47.400 that may ruffle feathers, that may put some people aside, 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.480 but I think, you know, with the people that don't 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.400 really connect with that, do really love that you connect 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.720 so much more deeply. And I've built some really amazing 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.840 friendships off the back of this show. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.480 And that you know that that pod we. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.159 Recorded was the first moment for a lot of us 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.119 to actually meet. You know, there was a pre prior 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.240 relationship between Andrew and Nicole, but other than that, I 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.680 didn't know any of these other guys whatsoever. 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:13.960 Do you try and do some research on what you're 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:15.320 going up against, like as in. 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.040 How not not really, there's not there's not a lot there. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.919 You know, everything is so polished, everything's so bold in 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.919 terms of how each of these individuals presents their brand 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.400 that you're not too sure about what you're seeing online 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:33.760 is actually the real them. So I just went in open, 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.840 open minded, and willing to make a new friend, you know, 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.520 and off the back of that, Yeah, my opinions may 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:43.800 be very polarizing to some, but it will be loved 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.119 by others. And I'd much rather be loved by few 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.279 than be you know, mediocre or average to most. 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.240 Well, it's kind of why I like you, because you're 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.120 you're the similar to me. You know, if someone comes 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.040 into the room, trust as a frog, You're like, it's a. 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.720 Frog, You're yeah, yeah, exactly. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:01.599 Okay, So talk to me about these people. What are 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.039 you thinking? Are you getting along with them? Like what's 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.160 the relationship? Like can you have a tryst on camera? 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.400 Can you have the conflict and then do you put 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.200 it to bed or do you find that it still 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.480 plays out in your real life and you're secretly still 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:15.360 holding some grudges? 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.280 No, I mean, look, at the end of the day, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.360 you know, like you've got to have a thick skin 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.200 in our business. You can't let anything really get to 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.320 you or bother you. I know who I am to 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.800 a care I know the work that I put in. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.760 I feel very confident in myself and my abilities as 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.640 an agent and outside of work, you know. So there's 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.920 very little that I think anyone can really say to 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.360 me that that's actually going to hurt or it's going 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.360 to stick, or that I'm going to have grudges about. 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.880 You know, months later they can throw whatever they want 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.640 at me and you know, try and try and cut 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.840 me down. But I think you'll see through the show 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.360 that I would say, my positivity and my mindset wings out. 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:59.480 It's kind of an inspirational aspirational show in lots of ways. 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.440 So it's a beautiful with the way we showcase it. 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.320 And I wanted to know about, like how you feel 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.720 about their needing to be conflict? Do you think that 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.480 there needs to be conflict and reality TV? I mean, 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.760 would this show work if it was just an inspirational 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.000 aspirational show where you walk got along look? 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.600 I think I think it would to a degree because 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.640 especially property is so such a big part of the 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.640 Australian dream, right, you know, and owning your own home, 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:29.400 that idea is kind of ingrained in a lot of family, 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.720 a lot of people. So I think that you know, 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:36.720 aspirational sort of, you know, that idealistic idea around some 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.880 of the most beautiful properties being displayed in Melbourne and 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:46.199 therefore Australia, people will always follow. But obviously that drama element, 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:50.040 whether it's created or not, that'll keep people coming back. 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:51.800 Well, I think sometimes we relate to it, do you 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.560 know what I mean? Like, we guess we have exactly 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:54.319 in real life. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.960 Without that, it's almost surreal. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.400 But what they say about these shows, they're like on 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.920 the Block, they're like, you know, you read people's comments 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:04.920 online and they're like, oh, I'm not watching the Block 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.960 anymore because there's too much conflict, you know whatever. I'm like, 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.040 if there wasn't any of that conflict and you're removing 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:14.520 a certain element of everyday life, you're kind of stripping 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.160 it back, and then it's not real. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:19.960 It's not as interesting, it's not real. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.160 I very much agree with you, Ben. I mean, you've 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.360 you've got a very interesting perspective considering you probably watch 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.439 more TV than nine to nine percent of the population. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.080 But yeah, I agree with you. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.360 I watched too much television Melbourne's sort of showcased really 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.840 well in this but it made me think about the comparison, 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:40.360 because you know, if you live in Australia, if you're 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.440 a Melbourneite, you know there's sort of a bit of 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:46.280 a rivalry between Melbourne and Sydney. Yeah, so I'm so 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.839 curious about your take on this. Do you think Yeah, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.360 better than Sydney. 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:54.480 Absolutely wholeheartedly. I mean, look, you get battle to the 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:59.160 ends of the earth, competing opinions where very different cities. 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.200 There's no the place in Australia that I'd rather live. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.960 I am. I'm incredibly passionate about Melbourne. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:06.400 This is where I was born, this is where I've 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.600 grown up, and you know this, this is I always 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.240 have a really special place in my heart for Melbourne. 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.240 Whether I live here permanently, you know, forever, you know, 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:19.360 time will tell. But I think I think Melbourne's really 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:20.960 special and I think it's irreplaceable. 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.040 And we may not have. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.400 The dollar figures or some of the sort of record 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.520 price has achieved such as Sydney, but I think it's 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.720 a it's a beautiful place to live. And we often 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.760 joke throughout the show that you know, Melbourne really is 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:36.319 the sixth cast member. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.160 I always think that in shows, though, I always hope 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.280 the friend's apartment as a character of itself. Yeah, I 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.640 think if New York is an apartment, new York is 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.400 a character of sex and city, you know what I mean? 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.280 Like it's so, isn't it interesting how the space around 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.760 you has its character almost just as predominantly as the 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.000 feature characters, you know exactly. But I was going to 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.319 say market wise, So you think Sydney is different probably 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.520 because of the pricing. Do you think that it's sort of. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.760 Pricing is not the only difference. I mean, Sydney's Sydney's 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:12.520 a different geographically too, you know, I think I think Melbourne, 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.920 from what I understand, is a lot more condensed in 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.840 terms of you know, you just sort of areas. Sydney's 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.760 a lot more spread out. And it's interesting too. Obviously 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.840 their culture and their environment is all surrounded by the 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:30.880 water and beaches, etc. Melbourne doesn't have that to the 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:35.840 same extent. Sydney is considered an icon on the map globally. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.520 You know, when people think of Australia, they probably think 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.760 of Sydney first and foremost, and that brings a lot 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.720 of it brings a lot of global attention, and I 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.640 think off the back of that and that the history 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.520 of Sydney as you know, as a city means that 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.840 it does have these incredible price tags attached to a 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.640 lot of its property, which is un incomparable. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:00.720 To the rest of Australia. 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.240 You know, looking at what certain properties set can achieve 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:08.520 there is insane, but just makes me believe even more 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.920 that Melbourne provides so much better value for more livable city. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.360 I don't know if i'm you know, people accused me 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.280 of it a lot, but I guess I spend a 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:18.400 lot of time in different states. I'm in Queensland right now. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.840 People will be like, you're very protective of Melbourne. I 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.800 just find that I enjoy the seasons of Melbourne. I like, 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:25.640 I like to be able to go to the beach 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.240 to our fiction and then I like the winter to 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:30.920 put on a winter code and go and see a 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.200 theater show. Do you more European than it does? 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:34.720 Yeah? 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.400 Where I like the seasons. Did you watch any of 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.360 like lux Listing Sydney or any it DIDs you did? 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:41.880 Absolutely? 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.679 Yeah? I mean, look, I you know it's so funny 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.199 years and years ago, Like I love watching Million Dollars 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.000 in New York, which is the original right with Frederick 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:55.200 Ecklund and Ryan Sahart and you know a few other 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.719 people that have sort of come through the show cycled on, 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.839 Cycled Off. But I definitely definitely watch a good few 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:07.440 seasons of Lux Listing Sydney and have a lot of 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.880 respect for you know, the cast that are on there. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.800 They've built incredible businesses and you know, absolute credit to them. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.000 Yeah, I think that that's really quite interesting when you 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.880 look at those shows, because you can sometimes I watch 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.520 television and sometimes I become the characters, do you know 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.680 what I mean? Like, I was just curious about whether 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:27.720 or not you're watching those sorts of shows and you 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:32.320 find that you've become you become like the best parts 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.320 of the people that you've liked across your eclectic version 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.280 of vision of watching all of them, you know what 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:37.560 I mean? 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.240 Look, you know what I think. 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:43.120 I think that's an interesting perspective, and yeah, I probably 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.480 agree with that to a level because similar to how 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:47.840 important your. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.800 Environment is in shaping the person that you are. If 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:51.720 you're watching. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.760 Hours and hours and hours of television, right you're surrounding 0:13:55.800 --> 0:14:00.120 yourself with whilst it's fictional or whilst it's whether to 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.920 movie or reality TV show, whatever, like, it has to 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.079 impact your psyche and you know you're going to You're 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.840 going to pick up different traits, characteristics, ways that you 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:15.840 speak from these from these people, so it has to 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:17.319 impact you absolutely. 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.160 Is there a hangover for this show? We talked about 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.800 a hangover from Survivor when you step when you find 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:27.880 oh did you find yourself going oh, I'm not on camera? 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:29.640 Because I mean I did. I did a show that 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.240 was twenty four hours seven, you know, reality TV. Wow, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.480 And I don't know if I would be good on 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.360 one of them knows that they do reality now where 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:39.720 the cameras are in front of you, I don't know 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.880 be myself. So I mean there must be sort of 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:48.080 a bit of a hangover. So then oh am I yeah, you. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:52.560 Know, yeah, I know what you're Maane. No, no, no hangover. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.560 I think because it was such a long process, very 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:59.600 different to the intensity of Survivor right where Survivor was 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:04.760 like you're on and then it's just showtime until you're 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.040 not here. This was a much longer process, you know, 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.920 in terms of the actual timeframe filming, how long were 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.000 you there for Well, look, you know we've been producing 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:19.680 the show over over a year. Wow, well over a year, 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.280 and the whole process of even you know, sort of 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.320 the very beginning of getting involved in the show was 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.880 more than a year and a half ago. Well you know, 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.560 so this I found out about this before me and 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.120 you even spoke, you know, way way back when. So 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.240 it feels like, you know, quite a long process and 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.120 something that you know has taken its time to produce 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.680 something that's really I think is going to be incredibly 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.960 entertaining and a lot of people are really going to 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:46.680 love and enjoy. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:48.680 Well, I'm glad you didn't win Survivor. I think that 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:53.359 would have been weird during Yeah you know me then people. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.120 I'm not as glad that I didn't win, but half 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:57.160 a million dollars yep. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.400 Yeah, yeah that five hundred would have done well. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.200 But but no, Look, you know what, everything happens for 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:02.680 a reason. 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.120 So well, this could be your life now, you know 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:06.640 what I mean? Like this, I mean, we could do 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.480 see season two. 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.160 We could roll through ten seasons baby, Like I'm on, 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:11.840 let's go. 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.920 Well, let's hope we're talking about this show in ten years. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.520 Do you know what I mean, like, I think it's 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.360 a very different category of reality. It's sort of doco reality, 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.800 which I think is becoming more and more popular. It's 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.120 a good space for you to be and I think 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.000 the characters in this are quite interesting. They're quite sort 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.360 of polarizing in some ways, but also still you still 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.440 like them for the vulnerability that you can see as well. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:34.920 And that's what we want. We want it to be. 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:36.600 We want it to be vulnerable, we want it to 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.960 be real, we want it to be you know, show 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.800 it all right, it's not just you know, if you again, 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:46.200 if you were just capturing that, you know, the glamorous moments, 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:50.240 you know, the fist bumps and you know the celebrations, 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.560 that would be a very very small portion of what 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:54.400 is reality. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.920 Well, I hope people watch it. I hope people listening 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.480 to this podcast are fascinated enough to go and check 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.840 it out. I'm going to circle back, my friend and 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.000 find out what you think about it once you've watched it, 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:04.639 you know what I mean? 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.400 Yeah, one hundred percent. Look, I'm excited for it to air. 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.040 I think it's a really special moment for Melbourne. I 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.560 think Cattle nine have done incredible job and it will 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.719 be a great show. And let's just say this, I 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.439 am pumped and I am in if we're rolling on 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:21.439 to a second season. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.080 I think it'll happen. I finished the podcast every time, like, 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.639 tell me with a question of something that's behind the scenes, 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.240 can you give me behind the scenes secret, something that 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.199 we as a viewer wouldn't not watch the show, Like 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.440 was there something there's something bizarre that happened along the way, 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.560 or was there a routine that you had before you 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.000 before it was magic. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.760 Time routine that I had. 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.159 I was talking to Felicity Ward about the office and 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.399 she would listen to music. That was the only reason why. 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, like it is. It is funny. 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.600 I mean I would, I guess my routine is, you know, 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.480 the days that we were filming, I would definitely I 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.479 make sure every thing in terms of how I present 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:05.320 myself and how I show up is as sharp as possible. 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.000 I mean, I've already got it down fine tuned as 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:12.159 an art form, but you know, I make sure, especially 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.840 on those days, that I'm doing everything I can to 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:19.320 be and the most positive and the most energized mindset possible, 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.000 So you know, removing a lot of distractions, making sure 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:27.520 I have a great breakfast, haircut, grimming routine, take it slow, 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.439 like really enjoy things and stop rushing, and the just 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.040 be you, you know, Like I hope that that comes 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.760 across through the show, that I'm just being me and 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.880 being the most authentic version of me possible. 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:41.800 I think a lot of what you just described then 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:43.639 is like my friends that work in real estate, you 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.280 know what I mean, Like all my friends that you know, 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.400 whether they're girls or guys, you know, the hair perf, 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:54.000 the hair is sharp there, yeah, sharp, and even in 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:55.240 the way that they socialize. 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:59.040 Then I'm even sharper. That's the point why you're on 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.920 a show exactly exactly. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.760 You're there and no one else. Mate. Congratulations on this. 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.000