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Speaker 1: This is jam Nation with Jonesy and Man the Moon

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Speaker 1: Man Moody.

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Speaker 2: Hello, oh, hello Amanda, and hello to you Jonesy. It

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Speaker 2: is very nice to be here. The last time I

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Speaker 2: spoke to you, guys, I was in the form of

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Speaker 2: Malcolm Turnbull. I think it was way back in twenty

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Speaker 2: sixteen or seventeen. So it's nice to be back. You

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Speaker 2: look exactly the same. You might deal with the devil

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Speaker 2: both of you, haven't you.

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Speaker 1: You used to do such a brilliant impression of Malcolm

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Speaker 1: Turnbull when he left office and became less of a voice.

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Speaker 1: Do you lament that? I mean, can you do an

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Speaker 1: Alban easy?

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Speaker 3: Who do you become?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Look, I did a little bit of scum over for

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Speaker 2: a while, but you know it didn't really finish a

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Speaker 2: word or a sentence. And then you know he was

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Speaker 2: just spoke a lot. But it was hard to nail

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Speaker 2: him because Malcolm had such a particular voice. And I

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Speaker 2: get requests for my Russell Crowe as well, because you know,

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Speaker 2: I know Rusty and when you speak to him, he

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Speaker 2: tries to outball you. Yeah, he goes much deeper, and

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Speaker 2: you go deeper. Then he goes even deeper.

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Speaker 3: What about your raising your limitation.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't pick you as a self help book

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Speaker 1: kind of a guy.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely am because I'm one of those people a

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Speaker 2: manner that looks for simple answers to complex questions. I

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Speaker 2: want a silver bullet. I want to be helped and

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Speaker 2: fixed now without doing too much work. And that's exactly

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Speaker 2: what self help purportedly offers. But essentially, the thing that

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Speaker 2: rings a bell with me every time is or puts

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Speaker 2: up a red flag is when somebody says they've got

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Speaker 2: the answer or they've got the secret. And I'm a

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Speaker 2: massive Berne Brown fan. Yes, but she does it too.

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Speaker 2: She says the answer to life is to remain vulnerable,

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Speaker 2: and it's basically something that you can't really do in

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Speaker 2: your workplace or in your interpersonal relationships because people see

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Speaker 2: you're vulnerable, they just go, we're going to kick you,

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Speaker 2: we're going to tramp on you. So anyway, I've written

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Speaker 2: read a whole lot of self help. Essentially, if you

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Speaker 2: want to never read self help again, read my book

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Speaker 2: because it's funny and illuminating. The message is always the same,

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Speaker 2: calm down, calm yourself down, stop scurrying around doing a

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Speaker 2: million different things, and focus. So calm down and focus.

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Speaker 2: But what I do in embracing limitations is basically say,

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Speaker 2: what you've got to do is abandon your dreams. We

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Speaker 2: were told from a very early age, you know, reach

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Speaker 2: for the stars, chase your dreams, and most of us

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Speaker 2: don't have the determination, intelligence, or wherewithal to make our

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Speaker 2: dreams come.

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Speaker 1: True, and we're made to feel less because of it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And there's this great kind of culture of overreaching

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Speaker 2: now driven on by social media and people putting a

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Speaker 2: perfect form of themselves up on you know, social media.

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Speaker 2: You go scroll through insta, everyone feels discontented afterwards, nobody's

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Speaker 2: happy for anyone else's success. You just put it down.

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Speaker 2: It's going I am either not being involved you've got

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Speaker 2: or you feel less than and then you try and

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Speaker 2: overreach and basically embracing your limitations. Whilst it's a joke,

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Speaker 2: there's a little bit of true self help at its heart.

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Speaker 1: So and I think as parents were also at the point.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking doing my best is enough, being good enough,

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Speaker 1: being enough is enough, The concept of enough, yes.

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Speaker 2: And having enough and enjoying what's going on in your

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Speaker 2: life and what's around you rather than constantly waiting for

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Speaker 2: the next thing to happen. And as parents, we shower

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Speaker 2: our kids with toys and options and all sorts of stuff,

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Speaker 2: when often they're so just happy at home doing nothing.

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Speaker 2: And that's not a bad thing to be doing.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's because my kids are a lot older. And I

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Speaker 4: was watching a young man with a kid and she

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Speaker 4: was saying, Tim, Tim, would you like it? Would you

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Speaker 4: like a little sandwich? Or would you like would you

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Speaker 4: like a roll up? And she's giving the kid. All

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Speaker 4: these officers the kids too. When I was a kid,

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Speaker 4: you just got what you got.

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Speaker 2: And also you weren't you an option for a destination?

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Speaker 2: Where would you like to go? Today? It was like

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Speaker 2: get in the car, We're going somewhere.

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Speaker 3: And was like, yes, yes, I.

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Speaker 5: Remember as a kid we're going to look at display homes.

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Speaker 5: It's like, yes, yes, we're going to go and look

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Speaker 5: at a house that's better than ours.

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Speaker 3: And you were buying. We're not buying that.

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Speaker 2: You're just going to look at it, or just for

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Speaker 2: a drive to just look out the window.

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Speaker 3: How sad is this?

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Speaker 4: My wife when she my wife was little, she never

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Speaker 4: flew on a plane anywhere until she was until she

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Speaker 4: met me. To her life changed, but my wife, her

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Speaker 4: parents used to take it to the airport to say

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Speaker 4: goodbye to cousins that were flying to They weren't dropping

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Speaker 4: the cousins off. So the cousins are going to Disneyland.

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Speaker 4: Your cousins are going to Disneyland. We're going to drop

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Speaker 4: them off and wave goodbye.

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Speaker 3: And she loved that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mate Matthew Hardy, his mom used to have

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Speaker 2: a great device because remember everyone used to line up

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Speaker 2: kind of on the roof of the airport and I'll

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Speaker 2: be waving in the plane.

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Speaker 5: She used to take a tea towel and so he

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Speaker 5: could see his mum when he was like it was

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Speaker 5: like yay, and so she knew what window he was

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Speaker 5: in and they're waving.

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Speaker 3: Time was twenties and there's.

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Speaker 2: My mum with the tea toowl.

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Speaker 3: That's sweet.

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Speaker 2: What happened to that kind of like observation deck where

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Speaker 2: everyone would.

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Speaker 3: Because you but you can't park at the airport now.

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Speaker 5: You can't just client seven hundred dollars, display hard for

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Speaker 5: that and fly to Barlet.

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Speaker 2: But if you go out the back of the airport

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Speaker 2: pass towards the long term car park, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of blokes with walk socks and high shorts and long

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Speaker 2: lenses taking pictures of plane. These guys, those guys are

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Speaker 2: out there, particular type of man.

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Speaker 3: They've let go of their expectations, they.

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Speaker 2: Have well, they've embraced their limitations. I am who I am.

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Speaker 2: And embracing limitations is about resolving yourself to yourself.

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Speaker 3: And you look at this. You've read all these self

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Speaker 3: help books, so we don't have to.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to. If this is the one, this

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Speaker 2: is the one. If you calm down, focus, go out

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Speaker 2: and buy Embracing Your Limitations. How to Embrace your Inner

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Speaker 2: Loser and Win it Life.

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Speaker 4: Embracing Your Limitations by Lawrence Mooney, out now in all

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Speaker 4: good bookstores and online.

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Speaker 3: Can you say kayak for us before you go? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: I can.

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Speaker 5: I was out on the Harvey yesterday rowing my kak,

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Speaker 5: and I'm going out today.

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Speaker 2: Quot on your barn out