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Speaker 1: good morning to you, Sam, Good morning, How are you

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Speaker 1: really good? First off? Did I pronounce your surname correctly?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: Sam?

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's feeling awesome.

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Speaker 1: Now, Sam, are you ready to get started?

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Speaker 2: I am Matt.

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Speaker 1: We've got seven minutes. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm terribly sorry. It's with a crazy show Stal

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Speaker 1: No worries. All right, let's get into it. Sam. Now,

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Speaker 1: why did you decide to put your hand up to

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Speaker 2: I just really think that both sides of politics aren't

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Speaker 1: So talk me through what you think the biggest issues

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Speaker 2: Without a doubt, the biggest issue in this electorate is crime,

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Speaker 1: So talk me through based on that, you know, being

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Speaker 2: I've worked at BUSH for a long time, Katie, and

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Speaker 1: So talk us through Sam. I mean taking a look

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Speaker 1: Look, we are just about doing We're just about out

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Speaker 2: So I'm running as a true independent, Katie. Yeah, whatever

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Speaker 1: Sam in thirty seconds, why should people vote for you?

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Speaker 2: I'm honest, I'm reliable, I'm incredibly hard working. I can

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Speaker 2: I love this town.

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Speaker 3: Got I reck well, God, I'm just having a look.

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Speaker 3: I think you're done, but yes, we are out of time.

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Speaker 3: I'm independent for Catherine, Sam Feelin. Really appreciate your time

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Speaker 3: this morning. Thank you for making sure that we got

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, I'm sorry about the delay.

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Speaker 1: All good, no worries. How is it all looking good

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. It's beautiful as always.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Thanks so much for having a chat with

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, Thank you