1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Three point sixty with Katie Wolf. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: Everyone who's listening Mix one O four point nine one 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: hundred percent. We know it's been reported in the paper 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 2: today that the peak body representing Northern Territory farmers. So 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: the science has been done and the company wanting to 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: develop a one hundred and fifty million dollar well horticulture 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: farm on Singleton Station, which is just south of Tenant Creek, 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: should be granted the water license it needs. Now joining 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: me on the line to talk a little bit more 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: about this is NT Farm at CEO Paul Burke. Good 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: morning to you, Paul, Good. 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Morning Katie, Good morning listener. 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: So Paul, what is the situation with this with this project? 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: So, this project has obviously been on the cards for 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: so many years now, the proponents have been more working 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: through a pretty stringent environmental process and that's coming to 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: completion now. They've lodged water application requests and we're now 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: moving to finalizing those and getting the development underway. 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: And what will this project mean to Tenant Creek but 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: also I guess for our whole region. 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: So it'll mean jobs and significant jobs. It will also 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: mean bringing in a lot of infrastructure to the region. 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: And obviously that region is one of the poorer regions 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: of the Northern Territory and it's been plagued by a 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: lot of social issues for a long period of time. 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: But to bring a project of this scale will mean 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: significant jobs and in the order of one hundred and 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: thirty to one hundred and eighty full time equivalent jobs 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: in the region. So it'll create an economy of itself. 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: And as I understand it, we know that it is 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: requiring a lot of water. Is everybody from NT farmers 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: sort of on board and happy with the amount of 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: water that is going to be required. 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: So water is always an vexing issue, and there's always 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: a lot of different views. I guess we go back 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: to the water planning process and the Western Davenport Water 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: Plan that was enacted in twenty eighteen that had stakeholders 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: from that entire region, including the land councils, including the 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: Berkley Regional Council and other growers, and that plan was 40 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: ratified by the Minister back in twenty eighteen. And we're 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: simply applying for what water that was identified as sustainable 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: in that region to create development. 43 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: So I mean, does the science sort of back it up? 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: Are we going to is it going to be okay 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: for it to utilize this amount of water or is 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: it going to have an impact. 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: Well, certainly, the science suggested that there was in excess 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty eight giga leaders of water available 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: in that region. So we're only looking at a percentage 50 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: of that and so less than a third of the 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: available water. And we think, you know, with that volume 52 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: of water, we can create a significant precinct of our 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: developments in that region that will really grow that region 54 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: as one of the powerhouses for water culture and food 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: development in Australia. 56 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: Well, Paul, I want to move along to another topic 57 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: which is making headlines all around the nation today as well, 58 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: and that is the some of the changes to health 59 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: Star ratings. Now I'm not sure whether you've seen much 60 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: about this, but apparently fresh orange juice is set to 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: have the same government Health Star rating as the likes 62 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: of diet coke. Now The Australian is reporting that unless 63 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: the fruit juice industry can convince ministers of Australia federal 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: and state governments as well as New Zealand and otherwise 65 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: at a meeting on Friday that well, orange juice, for example, 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: and I'm assuming the likes of you know, our beautiful 67 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: mangoes as well may have a part to play well 68 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: unless they can convince them that it's you know, that 69 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: it's that it is indeed healthy, it's going to have 70 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: a similar star rating by the sounds of it to 71 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: something like diet coke. It seems unbelievable. 72 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: And I'm glad you said that, CODI. It is unbelievable 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: that we're in the situation where we're actually comparing a 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: diet coke or a cola product with a natural orange 75 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: use that's one hundred percent creatures. So it makes no sense. 76 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: We've obviously been advocating very hard across the entirety of 77 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Australia as a collective group, and we believe that common 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: sense must prevail in this case. It just doesn't make 79 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: any sense. 80 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: Is it something that you know that we've sort of 81 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: got farmers from all around Australia kind of trying to 82 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: join forces here and really say to the government, come on, guys, 83 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: let's be serious. 84 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and we've been reaching out to our leaders here 85 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: in the territory now that sits with Natasha Philes. We've 86 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: been reaching out to say that this just doesn't make 87 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: any sense. And let's have a common sense approach. And 88 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: we all know that if you've got a kid and 89 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: you're sending them off to school, if you further stend 90 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: them with a free sharine jeese or a fresh mango jeese, 91 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: yeah than a can of cola. And I don't think 92 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: anyone in Australia would disagree with that. 93 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: Oh mate, I love a bit of mango in my 94 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: smoothie in the morning. I think it's a fantastic way 95 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: to start the day. And and you know, look, I 96 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: actually think that. I know that there's plenty of natural 97 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 2: sugars in fruit, but to me, you know, you can't 98 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: beat some of that beautiful fresh fruit, particularly when it's 99 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: territory growing. 100 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: One hundreds agree, So start the day with a mango 101 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: smoothie and finish the day with a mango dacker and 102 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: every under happier person. 103 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: That sounds like a great plan. Good on you, Paul. 104 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: I like it absolutely, I know I do. 105 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet well. Good good to talk to you 106 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: again today. I really appreciate your time and no doubt 107 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: being contact to get in the near future. 108 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: Thanksatie, have a great day. 109 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: Thank you. That is nt farmer's CEO there, Paul Burke, 110 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: and yeah, this is quite unbelievable. I reckon. Ronnie, my 111 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: producer had told me about this a bit earlier this morning, 112 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: that the Health Star ratings. So essentially they're changing these 113 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: Health Star ratings. I'll read you a bit more of 114 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: this story out. So unless the fruit juice industry can 115 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: convince ministers of Australian federal and state governments and New 116 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: Zealand otherwise at a meeting on Friday, ossie oj will 117 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 2: be a drink. Just well, it'll be a junk drink, 118 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: despite the famous vitamin C. Now, a powerful anti sugar 119 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: campaign is targeting fresh juice in a battle that pictures 120 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: rising obesity concerns in Australia against jobs and the livelihoods 121 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: of the bush. And well, this is just another nanny 122 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: state law, says Maury citrus grower and juice manufacturer dick Eston's. 123 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: And he goes on to say that government's managing down 124 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: on rural Australia, killing jobs. And all these votes come 125 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 2: in from these mad left city people, over educated elites. 126 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: That's what's causing it. It's not common sense, he says. 127 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: Now he goes on, well, It goes on to us 128 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: say this report that the new rating of orange juice 129 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: will be set by Health and agriculture ministers on well 130 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: will be set by Health and Agriculture ministers who make 131 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: up the Australian and New Zealand Ministerial Forum of Food Regulation. 132 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 2: Of the ten votes, labor states are expected to back 133 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: the lower rating and liberal states to back farmers, with 134 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: Western Australia abstaining. Now the crucial vote still being fought 135 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: over is Queensland. The decision comes at a time when 136 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: health ministers are at peak power in the COVID nineteen crisis. 137 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: I tell you, Wash, I'll be very keen to hear 138 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: what the Health Minister Natasha Files says about this on 139 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: the show tomorrow. She's on for the week that was. 140 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: But you know, it seems unbelievable to me that we're 141 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: in a situation where coke diet coke could be as 142 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: healthy as orange juice. Goodness, gracious,