1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation. Can you believe it's been ten 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: years since the greatest mystery in aviation history. Sky News 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: anchor and investigative journalist Peter Stefanovic is continuing the search 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: for answers of the disappearance of that infamous flight MH 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: three seventy. 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: Peter, Hello, good morning. 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: At the time it was extraordinary that an aeroplane could 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: disappear in a thin air, excuse the pun. And here 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: about ten years later, still no. 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Sign of us, still asking the same questions. 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: There have been some signs of it, though, haven't they 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: They found bits. 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, a few bits. The best piece that we've got 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: to work towards at the moment is a flapperon which 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: is attached to the wing and it was found in 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: the Larry Union years after it went down. And there 17 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: still hasn't been a bigger piece of the planet's been found. 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: But the reason that they could find that, can't they 19 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: work backwards and say, here's what the currents were doing 20 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: and his where it's come from. 21 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: That's what they tried to do, and looking at all 22 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: the available evidence at the moment, they have come to 23 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: the conclude. Most of the people we talked to in 24 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: the documentary is that they got it wrong. They got 25 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: the search zone wrong. I've even spoken of former members 26 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: of the ATSB who now acknowledge we've got the search 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: zone wrong. The reason being is because they operated on 28 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: one theory being that the pilot wasn't in control at 29 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: the end, that he died with all of the passengers 30 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: on board. So when the plane ran out of fuel, 31 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: it just went down, went basically into a death what's 32 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: known as a death spiral. But what they didn't factor 33 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: in was the was the chance that the pilot was 34 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: completely murderous, Yeah, that he actually wanted to fly the 35 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: plane as far as possible, and so once it ran 36 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: out of fuel, he's then able to glide at another 37 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: one hundred kilometers. So that's so that's when he's gathered speed. 38 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: It's gone down, it's gathered speed, and he was able 39 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: to level it off, which a lot of experienced pilots 40 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: can do quite easily, and it's got another hundred hundred 41 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: k's or so. 42 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: But then people could have survived. That people could have. 43 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: Well, did he factory what happened earlier in the flight 44 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: as he took them all out? So according to some 45 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: of the data, that is available. He's increased altitude all 46 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: of a sudden, and some data shows that so at 47 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: that point and we can't know for sure, but the 48 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: assumption is that that's when the decompression came on and 49 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: he's taken everybody out. 50 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they would have instantly fallen asleep. 51 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: Died from what's known as hypoxia. Yeah, so they would 52 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: have fallen asleep. 53 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: So they would have been scared because it was pointing 54 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: up into the sky. 55 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's going on here? 56 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: But not a painful debt. 57 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: What's known as the rubber jungle. That would have all 58 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: come down, So there would have been some confusion with 59 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: the masks and everything. But hypoxia kicks in after about 60 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: thirty seconds. So if there's a plus in all of this, 61 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: it would have been that they died peacefully. 62 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: Wow, and we now it's established, isn't it that the 63 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: it was a deliberate act on behalf of the pilot. 64 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: But he left no note behind or any of this, 65 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: did it? 66 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: And that's why we need to find the black box 67 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: because we're hoping that there might be some audio, maybe 68 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: some messaging that's on that a crucial piece of evidence 69 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: which backs up that theory is that his own flight 70 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: simulator that was found at his place in Kuala Lumpur 71 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: had those coordinates in the Southern Indian Ocean mapped into it. 72 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: This is weeks before he took charge of that doomed. 73 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: Flight, so they didn't look for that soon enough on. 74 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: Him because they were looking, Yeah, they were looking in 75 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: the wrong place. They were looking in the South China 76 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: Sea because that's where that's where the plane went dark. 77 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: That's when he's switched the transponder off and went invisible 78 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: to those who were watching flights. 79 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: And the Malaysian government wasn't really forthcoming with any of 80 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: their fire, not publically. 81 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: No, because in a previous documentary I spoke to Tony 82 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: Abott about it, our Prime minister at the time, and 83 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: he said within the first week, the leader of Malaysia 84 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: at the time said that they believed it was mass 85 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: murder suicide by the pilot. They just didn't say that 86 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: publicly because they wanted to keep all their options open. 87 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: And the people still searching. Is there a big search team. 88 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: There's no search out. It's run cold. So basically the 89 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: trails run cold. What the malays As have always said 90 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: is that we need a crucial piece of evidence to 91 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: emerge for us to to do the search again, because 92 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: the balls in their court, pardon the put because it's 93 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: their plane, so they have to be the ones to 94 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: spend the money. And if you're going to do another search, 95 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: you're looking at least one hundred million dollars and who's 96 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: going to pay for that at the moment. 97 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: So with the bottom line for Malaysian Airlines, how has 98 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: it worked for them? Because my friend he's going to 99 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 4: go on a trip in the middle of the year, 100 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: He's going with Malaysian Airlines, and. 101 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: I said, are you sure about it? It's so cheap, 102 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: It's so cheap at the moment. 103 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: I got very nervous flying Malaysia Airlines not long after this, 104 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: and then you had MH seventeen as well. They had 105 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: that bad trot, remember, And I am a flying outside 106 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: of Perth on the way to call a Lump and 107 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 2: it started veering off that pre programmed route in the 108 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: Southern Indian Ocean. I'm like, wait, what's going on? 109 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: You've got to go and check on the pilot. Made 110 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: is everything okay at home? Are you okay? Have you 111 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: got all your charts? 112 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: It's probably the most checked airline. They'd have done every 113 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: stringent test possible. 114 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: Other than that, it was a nice fly. 115 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: What was the in flight movie? 116 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: I I can't even remember. 117 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: I was sweating at the time, but didn't stop you 118 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: from flying out Malaysian Hour. 119 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: Or sometimes it just any other options you just gotta go. 120 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: I've got to use those points somehow. 121 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: I've got a good deal at the moment. 122 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: The unsold Disappearance of m H three seventy is on 123 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: tonight at seven thirty on sky Newsing Foxtelle. 124 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: Pete Stephanovic, thank 125 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: You, thank you, thanks for having me.