WEBVTT - What it means when self-development makes you physically ill…

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the

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<v Speaker 1>land on which this episode is being recorded, the Komboo

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<v Speaker 1>Marry people. We pay our respects to elders past, present

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<v Speaker 1>Torres Strait Islander peoples. Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the Rise and Conquer podcast. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast where we ch have mindset self development and

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<v Speaker 1>becoming your higher self mix soon with a lot of laughs,

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<v Speaker 1>and being among Think of us as the perfect combo

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<v Speaker 1>of brunch with your besties mixed with self developments. No

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<v Speaker 1>matter where you are in your journey, we're here to

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<v Speaker 1>help you be curious, pull yourself out, and embrace radical

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<v Speaker 1>self awareness. If you're ready to get into the driver's

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<v Speaker 1>seat of your own life and stop letting life pass.

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<v Speaker 2>You by, then you're in the right place.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome back to the potty. Today. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a very interesting episode for you and we are

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<v Speaker 1>unpacking some of our theories of why you can get

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<v Speaker 1>sick when doing self development. Very niche, very niche, very niche.

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<v Speaker 1>But it has been a topic in the office. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been a topic with me and Tim, so we are

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<v Speaker 1>unpacking it today and it did actually stem from a

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<v Speaker 1>question that was put in the Facebook group a while ago,

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<v Speaker 1>a tear Do you want to read it out?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So the question we got was did anyone find

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<v Speaker 2>they got sick or got the flu and cold when

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<v Speaker 2>they really started to dive deep into their spiritual journey.

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<v Speaker 2>I've really dug deep into the project this week, breaking

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<v Speaker 2>limiting beliefs, meditating and staying in a high vibration, and

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel like I've broken through a wall in

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<v Speaker 2>my new chap dub but I've gotten seek and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>someone who really takes care of her body. I'm a pet.

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<v Speaker 2>Did this happen to anyone else coincidence?

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<v Speaker 1>I think not? Definitely not. So we're not gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>too much. But this is what we're unpacking in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into it, TA, should we do

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<v Speaker 1>some quick recommendations?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'll go first. My first one is journaling. This

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<v Speaker 2>is your.

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<v Speaker 1>Recommendation every week.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done it all right, tell us, I've been making

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<v Speaker 2>a concerted effort to like consistently journal and actually use

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<v Speaker 2>our prompts from our life happens for.

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<v Speaker 1>Me journal, and I feel which one's your favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorites are the go deeper in self reflection one

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<v Speaker 2>and also the knowing your next steps.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think i've actually done those.

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<v Speaker 2>You should drive all right, I'll do it. And my

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<v Speaker 2>second recommendation, which is a bit random, but and probably

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<v Speaker 2>too late because it's not really winter anymore, an in

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<v Speaker 2>shower moisturizer.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a shower oil.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's like a lotiony thing that you put on

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<v Speaker 2>in the shower. And I'm super lazy with moisturizing my body,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've started using that, and I've seen a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you then wash it off?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't just leave it there and then with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I still use shower gel like the soap, and then

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<v Speaker 2>let it phone up, and then I put on the

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<v Speaker 2>moisturizer in there, and then I'll still be in the

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<v Speaker 2>shower for a few minutes, so some of it might

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<v Speaker 2>wash off, but most of it. I would say, does.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a moisturizer for in the shower?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's called in shower moisturizer of course. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, I've actually used I love using shower oil, so

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<v Speaker 1>I use it on especially Ivy because she has certain

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<v Speaker 1>skin conditions, so we stay away from certain products. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love shower oil. It's kind of think like, you know, oil,

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<v Speaker 1>a serum you're put on your face that's like so

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<v Speaker 1>like hydrating, so hydrating. Yeah, so you actually put it

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<v Speaker 1>on in the shower. But because it's an oil, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like you know, when you've got sunscreen

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<v Speaker 1>on and washed off, you've got to actually use soap

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<v Speaker 1>to wash off, otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>You're still Yeah, oil and water don't mix. Yeah, so you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can put it on in the shower and then get

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<v Speaker 1>out and you still feel hydrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'll try that. Yeah, what's your recommendation?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the shower oil is from Summer Skin. Oh my recommendation.

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<v Speaker 1>I fille you with the product, but yeah, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>shower oil.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing. Do you have a discal code?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What's it?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? I think it's just georgy Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so Summer Skins. It's called All in one. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>like fully use it on my face and I also

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<v Speaker 1>use it on Ivy. But it's all natural, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I recommend it. My recommendation. Okay, it's Nancy Drew.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you recommended this last years day and completely sold

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<v Speaker 1>me on it and one hundred percent recommend it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not fully finished it, but it's it's so good, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also scari as shit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot to do the scariest shit caveat last week.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's actually quite terrifying, but in like a

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<v Speaker 1>fine way. Yeah, I actually like, while you're watching it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's scary, but I wasn't scared.

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<v Speaker 2>After Oh that's aok good. I was slightly scared, like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Could still go to the toilet in the dark, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I could not.

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<v Speaker 2>I turned all the lights before I went.

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<v Speaker 1>To I guess maybe because I sleep next to Tim,

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<v Speaker 1>it's maybe a bit different. But even like last night

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<v Speaker 1>when he was out for dinner. Oh yeah, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't watch it terrifying. Guys, He's actually quite terrifying, but

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<v Speaker 1>in a kind of good way. I personally don't like

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<v Speaker 1>scary movies, neither do I, but we love this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm going to recommend that in case she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear that one. But also before we get into the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we've said this and like every interest since

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<v Speaker 1>it happened, but guys, I still cannot get over the

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<v Speaker 1>master class.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm honestly still on a high from it. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was out manifesting with Momentum master class, and it had

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<v Speaker 1>been so long since I'd done a manifestation teaching, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just can't It's just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's given me so much moment Yes, yes to your momentum,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know to see the feedback from that

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<v Speaker 1>master class. It's also such a good reminder of, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I practice this, of you know, you should

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<v Speaker 1>be constantly learning, constantly up skilling. It's why I've invested

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<v Speaker 1>in coaches and courses and that sort of thing. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just such a good reminder of how you

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<v Speaker 1>can have an evolution of a practice you already do.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I just wanted to add that in.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it. I watched the replay. Yeah, what did

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<v Speaker 2>you replay? I just loved that. It is very much

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<v Speaker 2>for me, a good add on to the project in that,

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<v Speaker 2>a good reminder, Yeah, a good reminder and just a

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<v Speaker 2>good way to make sure that I'm doing it all

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<v Speaker 2>the time and making the most of Like if you're busy,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the best way to manifest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, being intentional, but the replay is now available so

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<v Speaker 1>you can get instant access to also the challenge workbook

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<v Speaker 1>to implement manifesting because the whole concept do they teach

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<v Speaker 1>in the master class, is to make it a lifestyle

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<v Speaker 1>so it feels second nature. So I also gave you

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<v Speaker 1>guys a twenty one day challenge and certain exercises and

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<v Speaker 1>we're all doing that together. So we're in the second

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<v Speaker 1>week now, but you can obviously do it at any

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<v Speaker 1>point and that is included in the mask Class. Amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, should get into the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have this the that when you are doing

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<v Speaker 1>self development, that inner work, that you can sometimes find

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<v Speaker 1>yourself like getting sick, being really drained, not having energy

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<v Speaker 1>and just but maybe like needing to stay in bed

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<v Speaker 1>for like days. And I truly believe it's because you're

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<v Speaker 1>like your energy, like your cells are upgrading. Do we

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<v Speaker 1>love this?

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<v Speaker 2>But I love it?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because I remember I spoke to you

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<v Speaker 1>guys about this and we it's when we were all

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<v Speaker 1>sick back in June or July. Yeah, and everyone was sick,

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<v Speaker 1>like the whole office. It was like one growth, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one after the other and I was getting sick, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was also doing some like really huge internal work.

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<v Speaker 1>Then with I currently see like a mind body coach

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<v Speaker 1>and we do a lot of likemal work, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were doing some like really intense stuff and my messuse

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is literally like your cell's upgrading. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look back at like key moments in your life

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<v Speaker 1>where you did some like you had really pivotal shifts,

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you either at that time or a bit

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<v Speaker 1>later on, you got sick. And it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>so much is happening internally your body needs to like

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<v Speaker 1>expel whatever it needs to release, and often that can

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<v Speaker 1>come in like tiredness and sickness. We are going to

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<v Speaker 1>put a Facebook group post about this because I really

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear if anyone feels the same way. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a legit thing.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, I dear, I oh, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's one hundred percent of real thing. I even remember

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<v Speaker 2>like in round of the project, people after the Limiting

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<v Speaker 2>Beliefs week writing in like they're like I've been in

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<v Speaker 2>bed for four days. I can't get up, i can't move,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in so much pain, and it is because of

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<v Speaker 2>that like intense self development. And it's almost like if

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<v Speaker 2>you worked out or like did really heavy exercise all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden and you've never done that before. Of

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<v Speaker 2>course there's gonna be a toll on your body. So

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<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't it be the same if you did it

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<v Speaker 2>with your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Mmmm, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't thought about it that way, but that it

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<v Speaker 1>makes total sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, of course you're gonna be dye.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you're gonna be bloody exhausted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think also something to think about. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why we wanted to do this quick episode is

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<v Speaker 1>just I guess validating you because what can happen? And

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<v Speaker 1>me and Tim have spoken about this because he recently

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<v Speaker 1>have has felt I guess, like less energy and motivation

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<v Speaker 1>to to his like self development teams. Interesting, and I

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<v Speaker 1>said to him, I'm like, I think it's because you

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<v Speaker 1>had such a huge momentum at the start of the

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<v Speaker 1>year and upgrade and your body is catching up, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Always feel good, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's really important during those moments that it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you still show up. Obviously, take the break and take

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but you still show up and he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can, I feel it. And he also has the

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<v Speaker 1>theory that it's like almost like his ego protecting him

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<v Speaker 1>of being like be sick and unmotivated because it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's too hard to go through the shit, because your

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<v Speaker 1>ego always wants to keep you the same. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's get back into the episode. I love If

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are like into this sort of stuff. Louise

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<v Speaker 1>Hay has a book where she goes through, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>different problems we have and what she believes causes them. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, I was just talking to a girlfriend about this.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the book, if you and it's like literally

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<v Speaker 1>an alphabetical order, you look up your problem and it

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<v Speaker 1>tells you why this would have manifested and like an

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<v Speaker 1>affirmation to like get through it or whatnot. And for example,

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<v Speaker 1>like acne is she says, caused from anger and rejection

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<v Speaker 1>of self, So like you're storing If you think of acne,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like red, you know, yeah, it's literally angry and

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<v Speaker 1>it comes out where you're storing anger that needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be let out, but you're storing it, so it's coming

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<v Speaker 1>out literally in your skin.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And for example, storing anger is like a rejection

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<v Speaker 1>of self because it's like if you felt truly aligned, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you would express your anger. And I was like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>I had acne back in the day for like years

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<v Speaker 1>on end, and now looking back, one hundred percent, I

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<v Speaker 1>was rejecting myself during that time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really interesting, and like she goes through so

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<v Speaker 1>many different things and when you look at it, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot here. Yeah, Wow, you have to get

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<v Speaker 1>that book. It's really good. I'll bring it in. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Got on my bookshelf. Something else I read about is

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<v Speaker 2>that there are a few ways it can actually show

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<v Speaker 2>up the sickness. It's not always like running nose you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be in bed. So I thought i'd list

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<v Speaker 2>some of the examples so that people are aware tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of them is from having all like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like tim from having all the motivation, your go

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<v Speaker 2>go go, you're fine, everything is great. You'll just have

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<v Speaker 2>like a full crash. And they described it as almost

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<v Speaker 2>like someone pulled the plug on you and your energy's

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<v Speaker 2>just gone, like you've got nothing left in the tank.

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<v Speaker 2>The next one where things like ringing in your ears

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<v Speaker 2>or big headaches can come up when you're going through

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<v Speaker 2>an energetic upgrade, specifically headaches like in your forehead or

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<v Speaker 2>where your third eye would be. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>also an interesting one. And when you're having these symptoms,

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<v Speaker 2>it you're beginning to connect more with your body and

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<v Speaker 2>your intuition, and you might have been having them before,

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<v Speaker 2>but now you're actually open and in tune with how

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<v Speaker 2>you're feeling energetically, which you might not otherwise have been prior.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think sometimes especially when people are doing

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<v Speaker 2>their first lot of self development and then they have

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<v Speaker 2>like a full crash, it might not even be like

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<v Speaker 2>an actual crash. It's just them now being able to

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<v Speaker 2>be aware of their energetics.

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<v Speaker 1>And almost like connect to themselves more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly believe most of us are so disconnected to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree we're not. Actually we actually don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>we feel.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going a bit rogue.

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<v Speaker 1>But even the concept of you know, drinking alcohol, from

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<v Speaker 1>my experience in the past, it's a lot about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>chasing a feeling or like an escapism of like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to think about let's just go out

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<v Speaker 1>and have some drinks of the girls. And it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like you don't know how to connect to how

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<v Speaker 1>you're feeling, or you don't how to deal with how

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<v Speaker 1>you're feeling. You don't have the tools for like the

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<v Speaker 1>correct outlet or whatnot. So we use these, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>other things to get by.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but everything we use to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get by is so normalized, so normalized that it's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee majority us are very disconnected from ourselves like me.

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<v Speaker 1>Included included that I'm not saying I'm superior in anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why I bring that up is because,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I've been working with my body coach

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<v Speaker 1>and we have been doing like heart opening stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would have thought, like, my heart is very open,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I have a husband, a baby, I

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<v Speaker 1>really lead like a soul aligned business. And it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>because now that I'm doing the work, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, my heart was so closed. Wow, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it still is to a point. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm noticing and this kind of interwines of like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>noticing how much resistance I'm having to this work because

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<v Speaker 1>it's really difficult, and it's like it's really not love

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<v Speaker 1>and light stuff, and it's like stuff that I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually feel really shitty a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm finding so much resistance and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously I know it's like I'm brave and i

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<v Speaker 1>can do the things, and i know it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be amazing once I've integrated all the things and gone

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<v Speaker 1>through it. But I guess we just wanted to jump

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<v Speaker 1>on here and be like, if you're going through a

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<v Speaker 1>shitty time, like yeah, maybe you've gotten sick, or you

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<v Speaker 1>are just feeling so disconnected from yourself, or it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it just feels really not great. Yeah, it's like you're

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<v Speaker 1>still on the right track. Yeah, you're still on the

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<v Speaker 1>right path. It doesn't have to like love and Light

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<v Speaker 1>and Rainbows twenty four to seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt that a lot when I tried to be

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<v Speaker 2>more vulnerable, m Like I hated And it's not that

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever even had a bad experience being vulnerable. Like

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<v Speaker 2>every time I've ever been vulnerable or I feel super vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 2>only good things have come out of it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>still have that gut reaction of like, no, protect yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>like need to be more closed, be careful what you

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<v Speaker 2>say and think and feel, and yeah, but I know

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<v Speaker 2>there's only good things from it, And I know that

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard, but I know that that's why it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It is really interesting.

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