Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload, the podcast last week that Life.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
Speaker 2: thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode with
Speaker 2: Alana MacLean, who is basically now a real housewife of
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills herself after receiving a like on social media
Speaker 2: from Dark Camsley, we of course will go deep on
Speaker 2: the fourteenth episode of Beverly Hills season fourteen, which is
Speaker 2: called Hemlines and Headlines, and this actually could be the
Speaker 2: most different reaction Alana and I have had for this season,
Speaker 2: and we will get into the reasons why. Plus, guys,
Speaker 2: if you want to score the episodes two, you know,
Speaker 2: please hit us up on social media because we would
Speaker 2: love to hear your interactions. We will discuss the way
Speaker 2: on which Garcel and Sudden have double standards and maybe
Speaker 2: that happens when you have been on a show like
Speaker 2: this for so long. I will get Alana's perspective on
Speaker 2: Morgan Wade's name coming up a fair bit in this
Speaker 2: episode and what she thinks at this stage, what really
Speaker 2: has happened. Has this relationship been in emotional fair or
Speaker 2: was this at one stage actually romantic. We will address
Speaker 2: the fact that Sutton's mum couldn't make the fashion show
Speaker 2: and why Sudden just couldn't pop her on a private
Speaker 2: plane and fly her over. You are going to get
Speaker 2: plenty of chat on Deret's catch up with Gasel, what
Speaker 2: we think of the modeling career trajectory of all of
Speaker 2: these children of the Housewives, And of course we're going
Speaker 2: to unpack that tweet from Milana and the reaction from Deret,
Speaker 2: you know, because why wouldn't we. There is so much
Speaker 2: to unpack, as per usual, with so many inside revelations
Speaker 2: from Alana and Ice perspective. So guys sit back and
Speaker 2: relax as we unpack the wonderful world of the Real
Speaker 2: Housewives of Beverly Hill Season fourteen, Episode fourteen, am I
Speaker 2: Love Hello?
Speaker 1: Sorry, I literally just came from the beach at thirty
Speaker 1: nine degrees here today and I'm wearing an old kaftan
Speaker 1: and I just realized I look like one of Erica
Speaker 1: James's new cushions, the Leopard Brint.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not even slightly dressed up as anything from
Speaker 2: the Housewives.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can I just say, though, thank god,
Speaker 1: I feel like we're finally back. We're finally back to
Speaker 1: an episode and a vibe that I actually wanted to watch.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this one.
Speaker 2: I'm reading between the lines, and I know you so well.
Speaker 2: You basically feel like you're in the housewives. Because Dari
Speaker 2: liked one of your dweets this week.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah she did.
Speaker 2: Can you read that tweet to me?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: So what it was was it was a post from
Speaker 1: Watch What Happens Live and Andy Cohen had sutting on
Speaker 1: there and he was like, we've got a lot of comments.
Speaker 3: About the Big Wallet, and people didn't like that. And
Speaker 3: then she tried to say, yeah, it didn't really sound
Speaker 3: like me, did it. It had muddled words, and I
Speaker 3: was just I think I was angry.
Speaker 1: She tried to lose all accountability for what she'd said.
Speaker 3: She tried to make like, muddled words.
Speaker 2: What did you tweet? What did you clap back?
Speaker 1: I wrote, muddled words? Question mark. You seemed pretty clear.
Speaker 1: And so all these people start liking my comment and
Speaker 1: then that's the comment that yourete liked.
Speaker 3: Don't give me this shit muddled words.
Speaker 1: Firstival you've yelled it out twice. Then you called her
Speaker 1: poor eat in your confessional. Then you sat down and
Speaker 1: said to Garcel that you wanted to hook up with
Speaker 1: a billionaire.
Speaker 3: Like, don't try and dodge.
Speaker 1: What you've said, how you've felt, and try and not
Speaker 1: own it. In the words of Lisa Rena, you said
Speaker 1: that shit, you felt that way. People are coming for
Speaker 1: you because you absolutely sounded like an elitis bitch. So
Speaker 1: you need to sit there and wear it anyway. Dorete
Speaker 1: liked it, so we're best friends. Now, please be advised.
Speaker 1: I'm now in The Housewives.
Speaker 2: Well, we have to get into this episode. The best
Speaker 2: intro to this podcast that we've ever had. I think
Speaker 2: we need to start with is the Real Housewives taking
Speaker 2: their launching platform too far with Garcel's son now a model,
Speaker 2: because like Lisa, Rinna was attacked over her mama Jarole
Speaker 2: with her girls coming off the back of Yolanda with
Speaker 2: her DIDs, and then now it's like any one that
Speaker 2: has a child put them in a pageant. I mean,
Speaker 2: is Kick Jagger going to be on the front cover
Speaker 2: of Rolling Stone? I mean, what's going on?
Speaker 1: I'm sure he probably will. Do you know what I say,
Speaker 1: fair play, I'd say you've got the platform there if
Speaker 1: there's money to be made, honey, Like, we're not going
Speaker 1: to be watching these people, you know, into their seventies.
Speaker 1: Although Jennifer Tilley is sixty six, which blew my mind.
Speaker 3: A little bit. She looks like good for that. But
Speaker 3: I just feel like.
Speaker 1: It's like the Kardashian's right, you know, and we start
Speaker 1: to see the kids and we're invested in the kids,
Speaker 1: and then they want to sort of hopefully keep that going.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't mind that so much,
Speaker 3: And I'd probably rather.
Speaker 1: Watch them in that sense that there's some connection to
Speaker 1: the parents and the show, as opposed to just watch
Speaker 1: a completely different storyline with the kids, do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably a better storyline than just having Garzel
Speaker 2: cooking dinner with the boys and fighting with them about.
Speaker 3: Their homework and stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, flashbacks to Crystal when she'd wheel at her
Speaker 2: brother and be like, you are an international popstone and
Speaker 2: everyone was like who oh, yeah, no one cares. Kyle
Speaker 2: also talking to Kathy about mo I've been so ready
Speaker 2: to talk to you about this. It's so interesting because
Speaker 2: to me and you flagged this very early on the podcast,
Speaker 2: I can't remember how you phrased it, is there existing
Speaker 2: beef between Kathy Hilton and Maurizio Yumanski because of what
Speaker 2: happened back in the day. Because I'm starting to wonder
Speaker 2: whether or not Kathy Hilton's turned up in this season.
Speaker 2: It sounds to me like she's been sitting in the waiting,
Speaker 2: you know, in the sidelines, waiting to come out and
Speaker 2: be like, told you so, here's a pig.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that Kathy vibe is spot on with the
Speaker 1: told you so. And like I said, when you watch
Speaker 1: Paris in Love and you get to see more of
Speaker 1: Kathy Hilton, how she interacts with her family, how she
Speaker 1: interacts with Paris, how she interacted with Carterine who got
Speaker 1: married to Paris, you see more of that. She is
Speaker 1: very much a martyr in that sense. So I feel
Speaker 1: like she probably has had a bit of a grudge
Speaker 1: towards you know, Mauricio, because he worked for Rick Hilton.
Speaker 1: He went out on his own, he started the agency
Speaker 1: and here we are.
Speaker 3: But she's probably always thought he was a bit shady.
Speaker 1: And now she gets to eat Crow, I mean, sorry,
Speaker 1: watch Kylie Crow and sort of say.
Speaker 3: Well, we told her the front for a SIAT.
Speaker 4: She said she lost the feeling in her legs when
Speaker 4: she saw that, and then we wouldn't she saw what
Speaker 4: the picture of mom and girl kissing?
Speaker 5: I saw that?
Speaker 4: Well, isn't that why you're saying? How I'm doing?
Speaker 2: Kind of? Yeah, but I wanted you to bring it up.
Speaker 2: Why do Cathy choose to bring up the pepparazzi photos
Speaker 2: like that with Kyle? I thought that was so bizarro?
Speaker 2: Just say so I saw these photos online. How do
Speaker 2: you feel Kyle had to be like, so, you're talking
Speaker 2: about the photos online. She's like, yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to bring it up like that.
Speaker 2: Why not your sisters just bring it up? Just ask
Speaker 2: the question, why do you need to phrase him like that?
Speaker 1: But then they were sitting there in that breast clinic
Speaker 1: waiting for the results of their mammogram, and obviously that's
Speaker 1: quite a you know, triggering experience for both of them
Speaker 1: sitting there, so I'm sure they would have been on edge.
Speaker 3: Kyle definitely would have been on edge.
Speaker 1: We've seen her do these mammograms over the years in
Speaker 1: the show, which I commend her for. But you're sort
Speaker 1: of sitting there waiting to hear if everything's okay, and
Speaker 1: then your sister's bringing up these staged paparazzi photos and
Speaker 1: Kyle was sort of there, going, I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about this girl, like I don't care who she is,
Speaker 1: I don't want to know who she is, and Kathy
Speaker 1: kept pressing it.
Speaker 3: She was really, yeah, I agree with you. I think
Speaker 3: she was enjoying it.
Speaker 2: She looked also very bizarro, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: it didn't look very well while she was bringing all
Speaker 2: of this up. You know, sometimes when you're being the devil,
Speaker 2: you know you're not looking your best. That's what I
Speaker 2: always think. And you know, she was playing a role
Speaker 2: there that I think that she knew was a bit
Speaker 2: too shady. I don't know, like even when Kyle said, okay,
Speaker 2: can we not talk about this, then she brought up
Speaker 2: a lady. I mean, who's the lady? And who is Estella?
Speaker 2: Because that's whose name Kathy threw out there at that point,
Speaker 2: do we even know any of that? Do we need
Speaker 2: to pooh?
Speaker 3: Who's that is? That?
Speaker 2: Who she said was in the photo? She says something
Speaker 2: about the lady. She was like, yeah, Estella. She was
Speaker 2: like the lady.
Speaker 3: It was the lady.
Speaker 4: She reminds me of the lady with the dancer keep
Speaker 4: talking about her so much.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, who cares? But that's Stella, right, But I'm
Speaker 3: saying it doesn't even know. Okay, you're right.
Speaker 2: Did you remember her saying this?
Speaker 3: No, I haven't clocked this.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: I feel like when I watched it and then she
Speaker 1: did that confessional, and I thought, you know, she hasn't
Speaker 1: done a lot of these confessionals over the years, just
Speaker 1: being a friend off. But then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: she's sitting down to do the confessional and she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's been these rumors about Mauricio for years,
Speaker 1: but you know, we didn't have anyone come forward, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't have enough money to pay them off.
Speaker 3: And I thought he was joking.
Speaker 6: We've heard all those rumors about him. It's embarrassing, it's humiliating,
Speaker 6: but really we've never seen a picture.
Speaker 3: Nobody's ever come out.
Speaker 6: He's not in a position financially to pay anybody off.
Speaker 3: The man's worth like one hundred million dollars or something.
Speaker 3: He's just had two series of his own show on Netflix.
Speaker 1: He's yet sitting all over the country I thought, now
Speaker 1: you're trying to I don't know, so he doesn't have
Speaker 1: enough money.
Speaker 3: All of it was just a bit strange.
Speaker 1: She seemed to rarely, you know, more so than being
Speaker 1: really worried about how Kyle was feeling. It was more
Speaker 1: she was more happy that he had been exposed.
Speaker 2: Almost who do you think out of you? And I
Speaker 2: will end up looking more like Kathy Hilton for he
Speaker 2: is well.
Speaker 1: I've got the Kathy Hilton hat now, so okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I do feel like when it comes to hosting
Speaker 1: the parties, I'm in my Kathy Hilton era, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like I love a table scape, I love.
Speaker 1: Everything to be meticulous, So in that sense, I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit Kathy esque. My tan says Otherwise, my tan
Speaker 1: says Kyle, my table escaping says Kathy.
Speaker 2: I think you win that one. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. Her face just didn't seem to
Speaker 2: match the color of her neck. Like it was just
Speaker 2: really strange to me. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It really picked up on some interesting.
Speaker 2: Definitely honing in on some very good things, very small details.
Speaker 2: We're going to park that because we need to talk
Speaker 2: about Erica Jane now. Erica Jane's back, and this house
Speaker 2: renovation is getting way too many storylines this season. For me,
Speaker 2: I'm like, are we back talking about her house and
Speaker 2: her getting some wallpaper, because like, you've just bought a
Speaker 2: new house, and I was curious to know, are you
Speaker 2: going to be wallpapering? Are you going to know?
Speaker 1: The wallpaper was a little bit much for me in
Speaker 1: both rooms. I'm all for a bit of a statement.
Speaker 1: There was a bit too much there for my personal chaste. However,
Speaker 1: I love when you see the before and after shots,
Speaker 1: Like I love renovation shows. I love seeing when it
Speaker 1: all comes together. So that was the part of that
Speaker 1: storyline that I was like, Oh, it was the payoff.
Speaker 1: It was the payoff for seeing all those other sort
Speaker 1: of prolonged scenes of her, you know, with this Martin
Speaker 1: Ballard guy, you know, planning the renovation. I loved seeing
Speaker 1: the final result, and I loved seeing her so happy
Speaker 1: and sharing that moment with her mum because when she
Speaker 1: said this is really a symbol of me starting over
Speaker 1: and they were drinking that champagne in the cabana, I
Speaker 1: just I wanted to just go get a bottle of
Speaker 1: herve myself and just go cheers to you girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming out to you for heaven Me. I'm
Speaker 2: happy you got to seat the house. Oh yeah, me too.
Speaker 5: It's beautiful How some people would look at the redecoration,
Speaker 5: you know, some people would be like, eh, to me,
Speaker 5: it's a real symbol of starting over.
Speaker 3: I mean, I still I'm thinking about that verve now.
Speaker 3: It looks so crisp and pink and delicious.
Speaker 2: We look we're in different states, but I think, you
Speaker 2: know it's fair play. We'll just go and open some
Speaker 2: My partner will be upset and Robbie will come home and.
Speaker 1: Say no, it'd be like it's only one seventeen in
Speaker 1: the afternoon. Here you officially have a drinking problem.
Speaker 2: Did you find that her looking for validation from her
Speaker 2: mother feels like a bit of a theme, because like,
Speaker 2: I've just picked up on this thing. So unless you're
Speaker 2: dead and they're on the Housewives, are they all looking
Speaker 2: for validation from their mums? And maybe that's why these
Speaker 2: women are on a show like this, looking for validation
Speaker 2: and redemption from all of us. You know, it seems
Speaker 2: like we keep revisiting this theme, even to read with
Speaker 2: her mom this season. You know, she's looking for some validation.
Speaker 2: Am I something here and what are you putting down
Speaker 2: with that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're definitely leaning into it. I think
Speaker 1: the complexities of the mother daughter relationship and look, Erica
Speaker 1: and her mom have been very rocky for many years.
Speaker 1: And if you read the book Erica's book, she talks
Speaker 1: a lot about her mum and her upbringing and it
Speaker 1: was very tumultuous. And to see them having that moment
Speaker 1: on the couch was a beautiful moment. But it's taken
Speaker 1: her whole lifetime to really get there. And I think
Speaker 1: we had the juxtaposition of seeing that with her, But
Speaker 1: then obviously we'd seen with Suttain, you know, the rockiness
Speaker 1: only a few episodes ago with her own mum rebound
Speaker 1: in Augusta and sort of working through and she was
Speaker 1: supposed to come to this fashion show and all of
Speaker 1: this and she didn't make it. But yeah, there is
Speaker 1: definitely something to be said for them leaning into this
Speaker 1: full circle moment with the mother daughter relationships.
Speaker 2: I didn't read the book, but I want to know
Speaker 2: from you, Like, there was some stuff online and you know,
Speaker 2: Radar online and Daily Mail about the complicated relationship between
Speaker 2: Erica and her mother and her mother was like a
Speaker 2: bit of a party girl. And I think that they
Speaker 2: may have even shared a couple of men in their lives.
Speaker 2: I mean, we know they're sharing their Erica's bed, mum,
Speaker 2: but am I right?
Speaker 3: Were they they didn't share men?
Speaker 1: I think she had Erica very young, and it's a
Speaker 1: similar sort of story as you know what you see
Speaker 1: sometimes where it's like the mum had her very young.
Speaker 3: She had her own plans.
Speaker 1: I think she was quite into entertainment and singing and
Speaker 1: dancing and all of that sort of stuff as well,
Speaker 1: and then she had Erica very young, and it all
Speaker 1: came to a screeching halt. And then that same story
Speaker 1: replicated with Erica. She felt pregnant very young. She really
Speaker 1: only got into the entertaining when Tom funded that when
Speaker 1: she was I think thirty six thirty seven.
Speaker 3: And so I guess now they're at this place where
Speaker 3: they've both had.
Speaker 1: To rebuild their lives and they're sitting there having that
Speaker 1: champagne together and they've gone things have taken twist turns,
Speaker 1: curve balls, but here we are. We've made it through.
Speaker 1: We're survivors.
Speaker 2: And you loved it.
Speaker 3: I really loved it, and I loved the new cabana,
Speaker 3: so it was just.
Speaker 1: A love fest for me. I loved that part more
Speaker 1: than the Riba. Sutton feel there's something not be resolved there.
Speaker 7: My mother spent one day trying to get her cancel plate.
Speaker 7: Then the next day she's spent thirteen hours at the
Speaker 7: airport and never got to get on that plate. So
Speaker 7: the fact that she did all of that for me
Speaker 7: means the world, Like, she doesn't do that?
Speaker 2: Can I just say? Reaba not being able to make
Speaker 2: Sutton's fashion showy was really bizarre because I'm like, Sudden,
Speaker 2: you have three hundred and fifty thousand dollars being thrown
Speaker 2: your way per month. Put your mom on a private
Speaker 2: jet plane? What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Like that is such a good point.
Speaker 2: She's like, I mum was at the airport for thirty
Speaker 2: six hours and she couldn't make it to you know,
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. And I'm like, Sutton, why is your mom
Speaker 2: getting on a plane on you know, Delta Airlines from
Speaker 2: Port Agusta when you could just pop her on a
Speaker 2: plane and fly her over, Like, honestly, it didn't make any.
Speaker 1: Man so true because she's taken private planes for other things,
Speaker 1: and I think there was a cast trip where she
Speaker 1: hadn't got her passport fixed in time, and she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I would have had to have got my own flight,
Speaker 1: which would have hurt. But anyway we got there in
Speaker 1: the end or something. So you're right, she's just dropped
Speaker 1: in that private plane many a time.
Speaker 2: I mean, just as bizarre as Erica Jane still not
Speaker 2: being able to put her mum in another room. I
Speaker 2: mean that place definitely has I can't let it go.
Speaker 2: There's another bedroom for the mum to go. I don't
Speaker 2: want to share a bed with my mom. Okay, maybe
Speaker 2: it is true, Like what are those things that they
Speaker 2: have at those bns balls where they sleep outside and
Speaker 2: those rucksack type things, like what if that is a
Speaker 2: swag mom? Outside of the swag, we'll see you in
Speaker 2: the morning.
Speaker 3: But I mean, just a hotel room, just a just
Speaker 3: a hotel room.
Speaker 2: Do you sleep with your mum in a bend?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not?
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, just wanted to check if it's you know,
Speaker 2: the gay son mother thing or whether it's a girl's thing.
Speaker 1: It's just it's called a one bedroom, a high rent,
Speaker 1: high sort of stress situation.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's a.
Speaker 2: Good it's not a one bedroom place. It's got a
Speaker 2: pool for like ten people. It's not just a one
Speaker 2: bedroom place. Like it doesn't make any sense to me
Speaker 2: to get Kathy to put in a few ringy dinghies
Speaker 2: to find out being well.
Speaker 1: Maybe she could have stayed at Kathy's seeing as they
Speaker 1: were having such a nice little interaction in the middle
Speaker 1: of a runway, and you know, they could have probably
Speaker 1: just done that chit chat over at Kathy's house over
Speaker 1: a caveat Potato.
Speaker 2: Sutton is so bizarre. I mean, this would be the
Speaker 2: worst drinking game to ever play, because you would be drunk.
Speaker 2: But how many double standards to Garcel and Sutton have
Speaker 2: to have this season in terms of like what they
Speaker 2: expect of other people versus what they expect of themselves.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's it is so true, And I
Speaker 1: love that Erica keeps bringing up like what happened to me.
Speaker 3: She just clocked everything.
Speaker 1: She was like, you know, and she was on her
Speaker 1: own island because at that point we hadn't seen the
Speaker 1: full extent of these double standards, and she had to
Speaker 1: keep her trap shut at the time and worry about
Speaker 1: you know, lawsuits and things. She actually had to get
Speaker 1: on with. But now I just love that she's like, well,
Speaker 1: that didn't happen for me, or look what happened to me,
Speaker 1: and she's just calling everything out. But I also loved
Speaker 1: when Durite said, you know, I think you've got the
Speaker 1: roast tinted.
Speaker 3: Glasses on when it comes to Garsell, and she.
Speaker 1: Said no, no, no, And she said, but what about
Speaker 1: what she said to me last week? She goes, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was cruel a Cavia Caspia.
Speaker 3: She wasn't cruel.
Speaker 7: You need to pick on somebody else who'se wallet fips
Speaker 7: because that's not okay with me.
Speaker 2: You think you're bigger than her.
Speaker 3: I think my wallet is. That was mean and that
Speaker 3: was really cruel.
Speaker 5: I am saying something in the moment would be refreshing.
Speaker 3: I got it, you know, I mean, I feel like
Speaker 3: she sees it.
Speaker 1: It was interesting watching that sit down with Darei and
Speaker 1: Garcel because we just have not seen that.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say it's in Cincea. Both of them
Speaker 2: getting together and having that catch up to me is bizarre.
Speaker 2: But I want to know from you what you think
Speaker 2: their motives are, because Garcel will run back this information
Speaker 2: to sudden and Darda is recruiting people to stay on
Speaker 2: the show. These are my takes. What makes you think
Speaker 2: that these two women, after everything that we've seen, can
Speaker 2: go and have a beat salad together? And when Garsel
Speaker 2: turned up, she did look sick. I was like, are
Speaker 2: you sick? Are you scared?
Speaker 1: This isn't a genuine catch up production. Have said, we
Speaker 1: want you guys to get together and we want you
Speaker 1: guys to discuss x y zed And what I was
Speaker 1: kind of getting from it is this groundwork for a
Speaker 1: potential friendship that may evolve. But also are we foreshadowing
Speaker 1: a potential Sutton takedown from these other women next season,
Speaker 1: Like maybe the tides are going to turn on Sutton
Speaker 1: and they're kind of wanting to see if the other
Speaker 1: friendships can be strong enough to hold her to account potentially.
Speaker 2: I mean, at least de Red did make her intentions
Speaker 2: clear and her piece to camera, like you said about
Speaker 2: the rose colored glasses, because I thought that was more herself.
Speaker 5: As long as Garcel is either doing Ston's bidding, never
Speaker 5: speaking up when Sutton goes below the belt and constantly
Speaker 5: defending her, we can have nice lunches, but we're never
Speaker 5: actually going to be close friends.
Speaker 2: She was basically like, we aren't going to be friends
Speaker 2: if you do not see where I'm coming from. This
Speaker 2: is just a lunch girl's friendship catchup time scenario. It
Speaker 2: is not a forever besties type thing if you are
Speaker 2: going to keep starting with sudden, especially when she says
Speaker 2: things like mart Wallett is grover when I said that
Speaker 2: Marke Wallett.
Speaker 1: Is I mean, what was interesting was the elephant in
Speaker 1: the room being addressed with the Morgan chat, because then
Speaker 1: they started talking about Morgan Wade referring to the music
Speaker 1: video and Kyle's just been to the concert and that's
Speaker 1: been all over TMZ as well, and I thought, Aha.
Speaker 3: Here we go.
Speaker 1: This might be the start of that, you know, finally
Speaker 1: coming to fruition, because we've been talking about on the
Speaker 1: podcast where like there is a big gaping hole of
Speaker 1: confusion about where this Morgan thing landed with Kyle. And
Speaker 1: this is why we aren't understanding where she is on
Speaker 1: this trajectory with Mauricio, because one minute she was like
Speaker 1: out and she's getting the tats and she's traveling, and
Speaker 1: now she's all like, oh my god, Mauricio is not
Speaker 1: fighting for me. I'm upset he's kissing other women. But
Speaker 1: what we don't understand is what happened in the middle
Speaker 1: with this Morgan piece. The fact that they've brought that up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, here we go. She might have to
Speaker 1: answer some more questions soon.
Speaker 2: I don't think she is. I mean, she walked straight
Speaker 2: past that red carpet and she was like, not talking
Speaker 2: to the press.
Speaker 4: I'm not talking to press. I just don't want to
Speaker 4: be asked a million questions. I want to come to
Speaker 4: this party and have fun and not have to talk
Speaker 4: about my separation.
Speaker 2: How long are you going to dodge not just the press,
Speaker 2: but the viewers of your own program. Yes, all the
Speaker 2: women are on your tail, but so is everyone now.
Speaker 2: Like everyone now is just wanting a simple answer. And
Speaker 2: I feel like, is it fair if you've signed up
Speaker 2: for a reality show and you've had a storyline like
Speaker 2: this not clarified for three seasons? Morgan Wade has been
Speaker 2: around for three years, we have not had clarification on anything,
Speaker 2: and fair play to everyone with their privacy, you know,
Speaker 2: but don't sign up to a reality TV show and
Speaker 2: then keep us hanging for this long.
Speaker 1: I think she owes everyone the answer, and I get
Speaker 1: if Morgan doesn't want to be on the program anymore,
Speaker 1: but I feel like she there needs to be something
Speaker 1: in there where we understand what has transpired and she
Speaker 1: doesn't need to literally give us every single twist and
Speaker 1: turn that's happened. But I think we need to be
Speaker 1: able to connect the dots. We've been investing in Kyle
Speaker 1: for fourteen seasons. This has been a huge milestone or
Speaker 1: life altering change, and we are not understanding.
Speaker 3: Where it all sits. So I feel like she does
Speaker 3: owe us that, and I'm very surprised that production is
Speaker 3: letting her get.
Speaker 1: Away with not giving us that. I think she's pulled
Speaker 1: the OG card. She thinks she's got enough credits in
Speaker 1: the bank to get some special favors, and I think
Speaker 1: she's pulling all of them.
Speaker 2: If we had to like settle our bets cash up
Speaker 2: with the register. What has actually happened here? Do you
Speaker 2: think Kyle Richards and Morgan Wade have been having sex?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I don't understand it.
Speaker 3: I really don't understand it.
Speaker 1: I think Kyle loved the attention, and I think she
Speaker 1: love flirting with her, and I think she questioned her
Speaker 1: own sexuality potentially, and it went to very yeah, strong
Speaker 1: sort of place where they're hanging out all the time
Speaker 1: and this and that. I don't understand what's happened in
Speaker 1: the middle. I really don't, do you. What do you think?
Speaker 2: I think it was dark one night when they're in
Speaker 2: bed together on like one of her trips. I don't know,
Speaker 2: like was there, you know, Denise Richard's Brandy Glanville, like,
Speaker 2: you know, we're on a shoot and we got a
Speaker 2: little too close and had a few two champagnes. I
Speaker 2: don't know whether or not it's a proper relationship that
Speaker 2: ever happened, because I was trying to read this today
Speaker 2: and read it and I think a majority of people
Speaker 2: are saying that it was an emotional affair. What is it?
Speaker 3: Is that emotional affair?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, like not a physical affair, an emotional affair. So
Speaker 2: I think most people are settling up on their chips
Speaker 2: on that one and.
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, yeah, I would probably agree with that.
Speaker 1: And I think it's probably one of those things that
Speaker 1: because it was a woman, she was allowed to spend
Speaker 1: it all that time with her, She is allowed to
Speaker 1: feel a certain way because she was like You're right,
Speaker 1: it's not crossing.
Speaker 3: A physical sort of line, but it doesn't wait.
Speaker 2: Having sex with other women. That's what I want to know.
Speaker 1: Well, I heard rumors that she was getting it on
Speaker 1: with Kesher, but I mean it wasn't confirmed, so I
Speaker 1: don't know. I know Tiktop is Kesher a lesbian? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe this is way too I mean that is not
Speaker 1: fact checked. It was literally one article, and I feel
Speaker 1: like if I've only seen it in one article, we'll take
Speaker 1: that with a grain of salt. We'll take it with
Speaker 1: a grain of salt. But I did like that Dereet
Speaker 1: a Garcel were talking about that Morgan Way thing because
Speaker 1: I feel like somebody needs to bring that up before
Speaker 1: the season's out.
Speaker 2: So Jennifer Tilly being weird and wonderful and the same
Speaker 2: episode of Kathy being fashioned roadkill, I should say, it's
Speaker 2: like the winner of the Kookie Queens goes to Kathy Hilton.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that was a little bit too
Speaker 1: fake though? Do you feel like that was an authentic moment?
Speaker 2: I am onto this hard. I think the Kathy Hilton
Speaker 2: as well is getting screwed criders to come up with stuff,
Speaker 2: because you know, when she was like, where are the
Speaker 2: Hordy Gordys or whatever?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: Like then she came out, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Where are these? I haven't seen where this diversion.
Speaker 2: I don't think you understand the joke, Like it didn't
Speaker 2: seem to work. And I'm just starting to feel like
Speaker 2: a lot of Kathy Hilton's contribution to this show is
Speaker 2: a construction of producers or something else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I was here for this sort
Speaker 1: of comedic moment, but I was like, you're telling me,
Speaker 1: Kathy Hilton, the woman who was all about eloquence and
Speaker 1: how you sort of behave in public, and the facade
Speaker 1: that you put up is trotting off backstage at a
Speaker 1: fashion show and then walking onto a runway, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and having such a lack of awareness
Speaker 1: of what was I was like, Oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't think so dull.
Speaker 2: I believe that she likes a bit of self awareness.
Speaker 2: So and at the end of the day, it wasn't
Speaker 2: like Vogue fashion. It was no passion only was not
Speaker 2: you know at the rooftop of the Aqua arena, you know,
Speaker 2: like it was not it.
Speaker 3: Was a fashion show minus the fashion.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: I felt like if We've had.
Speaker 1: The ugly leather pants, We've got the ugly orange jumper.
Speaker 1: Because that sweater, oh my god, what the hell was
Speaker 1: that that Jennifer Tilly was wearing on the runway and
Speaker 1: her hair looked the same as when she'd done the
Speaker 1: rehearsals like five hours earlier. So I was like, is
Speaker 1: this a DIY situation?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 1: But for someone who wants to add to cut, I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to add any of.
Speaker 3: This to the cut.
Speaker 2: Not a single thing. There was not a single thing
Speaker 2: on the phone. I mean maybe the plastic leather pants.
Speaker 2: That the plastic leather dress. I didn't mind that. I
Speaker 2: thought that was all right.
Speaker 3: I'd stand too close to fire, you.
Speaker 2: Do not stand And then she's like, walk slowly and
Speaker 2: everyone was like, this is so good. It feels like
Speaker 2: a real fashion show. And everyone at home was like, no,
Speaker 2: it doesn't.
Speaker 3: I'm know.
Speaker 1: I mean, look sudden, it meant a lot. And again
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we're watching some of these things.
Speaker 1: It's like the renovations with Erica, was it the most
Speaker 1: amorous renovation in the history of renovations? No, but what
Speaker 1: it was, And the same with the fashion show. It's
Speaker 1: a symbol of something that they've started, the journey they've
Speaker 1: been on, and having that moment where it ties it
Speaker 1: all up in a bow and you can say, I
Speaker 1: actually did this, and that's what that was. And I
Speaker 1: did appreciate the episode ending on a nice note for once,
Speaker 1: where she was like, I'm really appreciative that my friends
Speaker 1: are here. I feel like my mum's proud, i feel
Speaker 1: like my daughter's proud, and.
Speaker 3: I'm just really happy.
Speaker 1: And I just thought that was nice to end it
Speaker 1: on that kind of page for once, rather than a
Speaker 1: controversial set of cliffhanger.
Speaker 7: This group of ruds congratulate me, and they're actually they
Speaker 7: seem authentic regulations.
Speaker 3: It feels really great.
Speaker 7: And some of these girls have been with me now
Speaker 7: since I've opened my store, and they have inspired me
Speaker 7: in so many ways that they.
Speaker 3: Will never know. I'm truly so great to call them
Speaker 3: that friends.
Speaker 2: How many Elna Maclean's Alana MacLean.
Speaker 1: I think this was up there for me. I think
Speaker 1: this was a four and a half. It had everything
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted. It had the scenes with the
Speaker 1: different women, it didn't have anything too heavy. It had
Speaker 1: a fashion moment, It had something that brought them all
Speaker 1: together four and.
Speaker 2: A half in WTF, I will drop two on this one.
Speaker 3: This is the biggest difference we've had all year.
Speaker 2: But I think it has a lot to do with
Speaker 2: like frame of mind and like what else you're watching
Speaker 2: that could also play into it. But yeah, two two,
Speaker 2: and I want more. We're getting very close to seeing
Speaker 2: a reunion. I feel like things need to be coming
Speaker 2: to a head, you know, Like I don't know if
Speaker 2: I need to see them all getting together like the
Speaker 2: end of an episode of The Golden Girls and celebrating
Speaker 2: Sutton's you know, pisspoorl fashion show. Like I wouldn't mind
Speaker 2: it if there was some open ended resentment or some
Speaker 2: conflict that needs to be resolved. Like at the moment,
Speaker 2: we're heading towards Kumbaya, Like what do we want from
Speaker 2: this re union? Them to sit around and have cups
Speaker 2: of tea and talk about Sutton's beautiful fashion show? Fuck off?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, no one's going to be wearing
Speaker 1: anything from that fashion show to the reunion.
Speaker 3: Put it that way. Oh look, I get what you mean.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting one in that I feel like we're.
Speaker 1: The goldilocks of conflict because we obviously want some, we
Speaker 1: don't want too much. Same with you know, the more
Speaker 1: serious sort of themes and the family backgrounds, were like, oh,
Speaker 1: we want to see more, but then we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: now we've seen too much. So they dance with that
Speaker 1: line week on week, and for me, I just feel like,
Speaker 1: because we'd had such a flat couple of weeks on
Speaker 1: the episodes prior, maybe my expectations were lower and therefore
Speaker 1: this episode just exceeded where I felt like they were
Speaker 1: going to go with it a little bit.
Speaker 3: So I was happy with it. But I get what
Speaker 3: you're saying.
Speaker 2: What did you call it? The ringy Dingys? Let's give
Speaker 2: them two?
Speaker 3: I want to get ding dings?
Speaker 2: Who ringy dingy's are there? Are? We is of finding
Speaker 2: out who did?
Speaker 3: Oh yes, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Once again, I don't care she was talking about like
Speaker 2: we should know.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that was I've got people, we
Speaker 1: can find things out, we can make some calls.
Speaker 2: Don't mess with don't mess.
Speaker 3: With Kenny, mess with Kenny Dingy.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just in the background loading up the previous
Speaker 2: for next week's episode, because I remember when it played
Speaker 2: it felt like whoever edited next week's sneak peek. I
Speaker 2: mean promo for next week. Gave up halfway through putting
Speaker 2: it together.
Speaker 3: You are savage this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they just stopped the promo. They're like
Speaker 2: halfway through, they're like, yeah, this is the next week's
Speaker 2: episode is so fun, and halfway through they're like, nah,
Speaker 2: this is not it.
Speaker 3: Next time on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 6: I think it's interesting that we can talk about mo
Speaker 6: and we can't talk about Morgan.
Speaker 1: I only partied like five nights.
Speaker 5: She's definitely coming in like, uh, oh Ani, have been
Speaker 5: a bad girl.
Speaker 3: I wanted to like me so much and I can't
Speaker 3: get on tube.
Speaker 1: We are just hanging on for this carst trip in
Speaker 1: Saint Lucia, and that's what we need.
Speaker 3: We need some we need some people. You know what
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: It's just they're not drinking enough anymore. So everyone's a
Speaker 1: bit more like reserved or something, you know.
Speaker 3: But I feel like we need.
Speaker 1: A cast trip where there's cartwheels and hair flips and
Speaker 1: the dancing and all those things that we love about
Speaker 1: a cast trip.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you're right. I think it's all we
Speaker 2: need to be drunk. What's happening is that they have
Speaker 2: no husbands and they don't drink anymore, like if the
Speaker 2: husbands were causing them to drink. We need the husbands back, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean responsibly. Of course, we're not, like, you know,
Speaker 1: advocating for a drinking problem. But there is something missing
Speaker 1: around that fun piece.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I agree.
Speaker 3: We'll see where it goes.
Speaker 2: We need to finish this on a on a high.
Speaker 2: Did you watch Denise Richard's twenty minute episodes?
Speaker 1: Like, no, I haven't seen it yet, So give me
Speaker 1: the elevator pitch why we should watch this show.
Speaker 2: Okay, So she knows that she's not willing to give
Speaker 2: too much controversy, so she's jam packing the series with
Speaker 2: special guest stars from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2: So there's going to be cameos from Kathy Hilton, Suthern Strat, Erica, Jane,
Speaker 2: Camille Grammar. They're bringing in all of these people. They're
Speaker 2: going to drop one on episode. The episodes are only
Speaker 2: twenty minutes long. They're not very long. It's like she
Speaker 2: comes in, she drops all of what you would expect
Speaker 2: at Charlie Sheen's story. Here a conversation about OnlyFans. That's
Speaker 2: so controversial and so weird with her one of her daughters.
Speaker 2: To make that show really pop, they need to bring
Speaker 2: Lisa Rinner in for a cameo like that's where we live.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I just can't see that happening. But yes,
Speaker 3: everyone would be here for it. But everyone, like.
Speaker 1: The word for Bravo, would be pissed if that moment
Speaker 1: happened not on Beverly Hills. I feel like if they
Speaker 1: were going to have that resolution moment, it would have
Speaker 1: to be back on the original playing field.
Speaker 2: You're gonna watch, we are gonna watch this so that.
Speaker 3: We can right now, I'm going off torch it now.
Speaker 2: Okay, can you call me every five minutes throughout the
Speaker 2: show and if you've got extra needs by me.
Speaker 1: I don't think we should be talking about needs of
Speaker 1: any kind like we are not equipped.
Speaker 2: We are not equipped. Okay, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: joining me up by Bravo.
Speaker 3: Bravo, do you ever want me to be on the
Speaker 3: show again? They need to cut that and
Speaker 1: Cut all right much Jerry much loved, Bye bye, bye
Speaker 1: bye