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Speaker 3: The golf now is just continuing, just talking to the camera.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be one of the biggest in this

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Speaker 4: Well, come back, ladies and gentlemen to another episode of

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Speaker 1: Man. Let's go us today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm already wearing the fit.

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Speaker 4: Let's check it out. We got Tefna on the scene.

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Speaker 4: Bro this is mad, but we're so glad to have this.

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Speaker 1: Guy for having me boys, much appreciated.

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Speaker 4: Hey man, thank you guys for all the likes, the

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Speaker 4: comments and the shares. Keep him coming. And if you

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Speaker 4: just keep dropping the comments and you can make it

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Speaker 2: Anyways, back to the show. What's on the agenda? Hefna

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Speaker 2: tell us what inspired you to come up with this

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Speaker 2: multi million dollar bran?

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Speaker 3: I wish that.

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Speaker 1: I wish it killing it now. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: I remember when.

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Speaker 3: I first just started to come out hood Reach and Bro,

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Speaker 3: I swear I'm not just saying it, but I was

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Speaker 3: one of the first times in Australia to be wearing it,

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Speaker 3: bro Yo, I was easily, without a doubt, Bro, it

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Speaker 3: was one of the first to be wearing it.

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Speaker 1: But now it's just everywhere.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to do do you reckon that day

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Speaker 2: because I only honestly, I only started wearing I think

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Speaker 2: a couple of years last year.

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Speaker 1: It's been easily six years now.

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Speaker 2: Maybe around there's proper niche nine names the first time

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Speaker 2: I started seeing it. They're going off now, bro killing

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Speaker 2: it now, my late blooming I just started wearing the stuff.

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Speaker 1: Now. This guy's a good rich like Menny.

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Speaker 4: To start off, actually, before we dive into the questions,

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Speaker 4: just briefly introduce yourself, like what's what's your background, where

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Speaker 4: you from, introduce yourself.

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Speaker 3: For those that don't know, my name is Caleb more

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Speaker 3: commonly known as hoodri Chef now from Western Sydney. Mount

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Speaker 3: Jewett first started off as a as a rapper, that's

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Speaker 3: or influencing. Like people like to say, but I don't

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Speaker 3: like to use the term influence. I feel like it's cringe.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I feel like it's cringe.

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Speaker 3: Like I just me personally. I just talked to a

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Speaker 1: It, but yeah, yeah it is what it is. Yet

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Speaker 1: it happens, you know.

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Speaker 2: And he's also for those who obviously he was saying

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Speaker 2: how the music was during it. You were around that

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Speaker 3: At the same era, So when you were popping off,

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Speaker 1: I just started to I just fucking was being a blend.

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Speaker 2: How was it did you come to start making music?

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Speaker 2: Was it always the thing growing up?

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Speaker 3: Or I'm not going to sit in and say I've

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Speaker 1: I just took a risk.

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Speaker 3: So I don't come from a music background, no, no.

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Speaker 1: None of that.

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Speaker 3: I just took a risk I took again when I

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Speaker 1: So you're off.

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Speaker 3: Even though it was hard for me, music was hard, Bro,

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Speaker 2: I don't know someone listened to.

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Speaker 1: But I was getting killed for years, bro.

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Speaker 3: And it's only just now five years, six years into

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Speaker 3: Now people are coming around and that when people are

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Speaker 1: But it was rough at the stuff got on your

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Speaker 1: brother for soldiering on.

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Speaker 2: I think perseverance is something that we need to admire,

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Speaker 1: Tough. Yeah, it's very tough.

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Speaker 3: I've always said it, and I know now had one

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Speaker 2: Well, I always tell sometimes I get asked from young

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Speaker 4: Even if you have the best of all talents, you

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Speaker 3: And it's like music in Australia is also hard to

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Speaker 3: at it's cringe. I don't know what you get what

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Speaker 3: Anytime someone introduces me as a rapper, it's underboard.

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Speaker 3: But like I said, if you're not in the top five,

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Speaker 3: Because anytime an international artist comes over, they get the

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Speaker 1: Everyone else gets left behind.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter how how talented you none of that.

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Speaker 3: And if you haven't got thick pockets, the pockets to

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Speaker 2: Be anyway because a lot of viewers out there, especially

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Speaker 1: Sometimes even though you have a lot of views on your.

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Speaker 2: think the brother, even he can attest to it, he

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Speaker 1: The music in Australia. Everyone is making money on no

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Speaker 3: Like that's the issue with music in Australia. People are

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Some of the rappers that are killing it in the

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Speaker 1: A lot of people hustling.

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Speaker 4: Reality, Bro, there you go, ladies and gentlemen. That's the

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Speaker 1: Have they giving you the ropes?

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Speaker 3: So being a bloke from Mount Jewet, when I was

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Speaker 3: heavy housing commission. They're rough boys, right, it's rough around

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Speaker 4: So obviously your your white kid, your white block in

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Speaker 3: So we were engaging in crime and being a part

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Speaker 1: They went to be with around a few worthy to mention,

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Speaker 1: You know what, there's a lot of artwork. Tagging was

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Speaker 3: They were on the tagging cruise, bro specific on the

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Speaker 2: So tell us a bit about Obviously, you just mentioned

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Speaker 2: that you grew up with Irelanders.

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Speaker 2: mentioned that you're not really close with your immediate family.

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Speaker 1: How was that growing up with it was the best

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Speaker 3: It told me a lot and it kept me in

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Speaker 2: Like money is not everything.

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Speaker 4: We're really pretty much outline your background going up. Let's

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Speaker 1: Like ship, that's.

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Speaker 3: What I want to eat, Like, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 3: it was was up and down.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not going to sit and say is the worst,

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Speaker 3: Our accommodation is second to none. We we we get

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Speaker 1: You can literally feel in.

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Speaker 2: Like that's mad that you see that way For those

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Speaker 1: The islanders hang with the Islanders.

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Speaker 3: It's only when it kicks off. It's only when it

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Speaker 3: So if like, for an example, say if don't stick together,

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Speaker 3: no other nationality has right to do anything to him.

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Speaker 2: The Islanders take care of him.

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Speaker 3: You have to take care of him. And yeah, if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. It's like it's it's quite

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Speaker 3: Everyone gets along until she kicks kicks off and then

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Speaker 3: Like looking around, it didn't really phase me. Like it

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Speaker 5: Ye mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So when I went there, I was like, all right, this,

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Speaker 3: And then I got put on the truck and got

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Speaker 1: I heard about Bafferts pretty rough.

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Speaker 3: Over there, and I remember just looking at the window

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Speaker 3: What yeah, but yeah, shit.

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Speaker 2: Experienced man, and and do I guess? I guess one

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Speaker 2: thing that I personally really wanted to know. Do area

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Speaker 3: To be honest, Broke, I never really had any involvement

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Speaker 3: I never really because I never understood fighting for an

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't own me, bro you know, O uist while

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Speaker 3: we bashing each other. That's the way I looked at it,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. In jail, it's more so

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Speaker 1: But I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you that I when it comes to

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Speaker 3: On and Jimmy Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, So there you go, yeah Jimmy and

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Speaker 2: Dion Yeah yeah yeah, so like area codes didn't really exist,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in my experience, I remember when I was in

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Speaker 2: Say, I was like a youngand coming in and you know,

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Speaker 1: They all stick together.

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Speaker 2: We're all islanders here, we all brothers.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. That's that's how it was. And I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's usually how it is. Like whatever happens on

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Speaker 2: Your own Yeah, but yeah, yeah, you're actually right about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they do it one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: They do it on purpose though, like they will take

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Speaker 3: So if anyone's been to silver Water, I called the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like it's.

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Speaker 3: Like a box, a metal box and inside and they

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Speaker 3: if you've got anything questions like yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 1: There with the whole yards. Everyone is walking around.

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Speaker 3: It's hard because you don't know if you like, if

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Speaker 2: You Usually when you do go go to a random

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Speaker 2: you don't have no exactly right, Yeah, usually when someone

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Speaker 2: But anyways, speaking of Jael and violence, what was the

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Speaker 2: most craziest thing that you've seen in jail? Like, did

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Speaker 2: you see something like real mad violent?

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Speaker 3: But I didn't see like shade out, I didn't see

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Speaker 3: any like much that was violent. I've seen people get

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Speaker 3: like their heads stomped on in that, but I've never

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Speaker 3: I didn't because I don't like it's ugly scenes. Yeah

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Speaker 3: it's an ugly saying, Bro, it's.

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Speaker 2: Already ugly enough to sing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's just I don't know's it's a different feeling

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Speaker 3: to it when you hear you're hearing two men like

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Speaker 3: It's like it's a different feeling, you know. So I'm

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's an interesting perspective, yeah, because like you know,

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Speaker 6: being in the wings when fight is kicked off and

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00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,119
Speaker 6: you know, seeing people get like really fucking dealt with

446
00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:46,520
Speaker 6: selling that.

447
00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,000
Speaker 3: But I've never seen anyone get stabbed in that. You know,

448
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,920
Speaker 3: it's like it's it's a doggie dog world in jail, Bro,

449
00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,880
Speaker 3: it's the lines. Then you know Devil's Playgrounds like it's

450
00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,359
Speaker 3: not but it's not for people who are half hearted. Yeah,

451
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,560
Speaker 3: And think that was the biggest indication for me when

452
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,639
Speaker 3: I went When I went in there, like I like,

453
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 3: I'm really as fun now, but I don't care because

454
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 3: I've got so many l's but I throwed on my

455
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 3: back now I'm transparent with it, but I've got more

456
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,280
Speaker 3: ls than winds and I love it.

457
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't care, Bro.

458
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,880
Speaker 3: And when I went in there, like the first even

459
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,919
Speaker 3: the first week, Bro, I realized this is not for me.

460
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,440
Speaker 3: I've got to stop with whatever the fun I'm doing

461
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,680
Speaker 3: about whatever mask I got on whatever person I think

462
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,199
Speaker 3: I am, because I'm not. Because there's there's people in

463
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,399
Speaker 3: there that take it seriously. There's people in there that

464
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 3: take violence seriously. Bro, I really have a hunger for

465
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 3: hurting people. And like everyone's a gangster. Everyone's the best

466
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 3: fighter until they put until they're put in front of

467
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,360
Speaker 3: someone that really came for gangster on you know, that's

468
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 3: why I look at it.

469
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 1: But ye, respect.

470
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 2: But I spoke a little bit on that as well

471
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 2: on TikTok as well. I replied on a comment someone

472
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know. Someone was talking about we're

473
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 2: doing the most making fun of the brothers because they're

474
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 2: trying to give out advice because they've only done two years.

475
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 2: And like, brother, I don't think someone that has done

476
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 2: one week, like like he was saying, it only took

477
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 2: him how many days to know that it wasn't for him.

478
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 2: Someone that's only done a couple of days will know

479
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 2: enough to tell you this is rubbish.

480
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 3: One day, one day, at the end of the day,

481
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 3: you in jail. You're done. Why why is it the flex? Yeah,

482
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 3: this is like we're gonna We're gonna change the fuck

483
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 3: change the perspective on jail. Yeah, it's a badge of

484
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 3: honor to go to jail.

485
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 1: And I was that stupid kiddy.

486
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 3: For now, I'm going to give respect off people.

487
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 2: No, I hate I hate bringing up to people that

488
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 2: I've been to jail. As much as I hate to

489
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 2: bring it up, but I actually hate saying that. You know,

490
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,919
Speaker 2: I've been to jail before. But if someone asked me,

491
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 2: then I'll give him my straight answer. But I'm not

492
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 2: going to go out there and say I've been to jail.

493
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

494
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 3: Ugly birds, Ugly birds have it's embarrassing. As you can

495
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 3: already understand that, you know, but as you can already

496
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: understand that, but like it's hard to explain to young.

497
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: Kids that are still going through the rough of it.

498
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: Has We've been there.

499
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,719
Speaker 3: You remember when we were kids, you know, the preacher

500
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 3: would come past. Come boys, Yeah, come to church. Stop

501
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 3: doing what you're doing.

502
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true.

503
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 3: The same as us, bro like anytime, and older like

504
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 3: an older boy used to try to give us to talk.

505
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: I used to look at as a clown. Yeah, yeah,

506
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 1: that's true. Now we're in that position.

507
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: It's like but like, yeah, it's everyone's going to walk

508
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 3: the walk. Unfortunately it's just the way.

509
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, that's the way it is.

510
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: What I'm like, I'm really glad that you were talking

511
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 2: about this because obviously for some people it comes to late. Yeah,

512
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: And I feel like, even though like like we are

513
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 2: coming with a better mindset, that will seem it will

514
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: be perceived as an older mindset, but we're still young.

515
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: But I guess the narrative I'm trying to change is

516
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: want people to be able to find that change faster,

517
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: because I know everyone's going to have to find their

518
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: way eventually on their own. I just want them to

519
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 2: find it quicker, because the quicker you guys find it,

520
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: that's one less person in the system.

521
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: Exactly. Wow, Yeah, exactly.

522
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: I'd say one of the first steps to take in

523
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: that would be probably try and change your surroundings. I

524
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: always tell like my mates this as well, even if

525
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: it has to do with like health and fitness. You know,

526
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 2: I was telling the same thing. If you're struggling to

527
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 2: lose weight, some of the main reasons because of the people.

528
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: You're eating pizza.

529
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 4: Everyone's eating pizza, everyone's eating brownies. What option do you

530
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 4: have if you if five people there are eating brownies

531
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 4: every night, you're going to be the.

532
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 1: Next person to eat brownie. Doesn't matter if you're doing.

533
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 3: You're a product of your environment that you are here,

534
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 3: you hanging around, And that was the biggest indication for

535
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: me too, what made me leave because I've lived in

536
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: Money for what well, I used to live in Mani

537
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: for twenty plus years. So my my family first moved

538
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 3: to my jew in the late nineties. So like we're

539
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: residents are Yeah, my white family is still there, Yeah,

540
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 3: but I've moved. I haven't lived in Mani for the

541
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 3: last six years or so. And when I was living

542
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 3: in Mini, compared to the person on now, I was

543
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: doing all sorts of shot. When I was in hanging

544
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 3: around the wrong people, heavy heavy duty dramas too, you know,

545
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: and the person I am now away from that area

546
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 3: and or hanging around.

547
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: With people like that no more, ten times different. Bro.

548
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: You know, I don't drink and smoke and do drugs. Yeah,

549
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 3: I don't do none of that no more. And I'm

550
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: not That's not like I'm not putting anyone down that

551
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 3: does that. But sometimes bro, like you need to go, Yeah,

552
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 3: you need to go a lot of a lot of

553
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 3: the boys in the area, and I'm sure it's the

554
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: same for you too. They make the area the whole

555
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 3: identity you know it's all about areas, but I want

556
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 3: to I want to defend my area far from Mary.

557
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 3: I want to be a gangstar, bro. If you want

558
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: to go and do that, but at least study at

559
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: the same time.

560
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: At least you know I wish I did.

561
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: The whole time I was trying to be a wrapper, bro,

562
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: and fucking they're wasting time fighting the area, years of

563
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: fighting boys or joining gangs, when the whole time I

564
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: could have been an apprentice. I can learn my business fine,

565
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: now I can only spine. Now these are things I

566
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: learned along the way. Bro, trying to tell these boys

567
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: it's okay to be a gangster. I do what you

568
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: gotta do, handle your bills, but learn something on the side.

569
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: Don't wait until it's too late. You got to set

570
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: up a background.

571
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: Because but the world's cruel to broke men, broke men.

572
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 3: The world doesn't like broke men. You can you can

573
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 3: be good looking woman and be broken. Some of some

574
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: rich men is going to pick you up. But you

575
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 3: can't be an ugly broke man because no one's gonna

576
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 3: want you.

577
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: That's the sad truth.

578
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: That's the sad truth, bro. But like I'm even sitting

579
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 3: myself crazy crazy fact.

580
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real.

581
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: You know what, there's a there's a mad quote on

582
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: that that I heard, and this is probably one of

583
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 2: my favorite quotes I've ever heard. Don't spend your life

584
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: tasting butterflies. Build a beautiful garden and it will attract

585
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: the butterflies. And if it doesn't, it doesn't matter because

586
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: you have a beautiful So that that just a test

587
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: to like background foundation, and I think as a man,

588
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: like women and children rely on us to have that mindset.

589
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: Already that we are. We have to provide regardless.

590
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, you want to be a gang signed fight,

591
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: but you've got to have your home set up.

592
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: You you have to only your flog wouldn't. Yeah yeah, yeah.

593
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: A lot of people fucking got their priorities back to front,

594
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 3: but I was that person to same time.

595
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 4: Hey man, there's this video I seen of you on

596
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: one of your Instagram rules that popped off really well,

597
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 4: and I thought you had a pretty good statement there.

598
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 4: It was something about ausies that didn't have other ossies back.

599
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: You know, it came if it came up to a fight,

600
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: you know, just elaborate for us on that, like what

601
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: what what was it?

602
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: What?

603
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: Were you thinking when you were saying that, like, what's it?

604
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: What's it like?

605
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: Or even even your experience in prison, What was it

606
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: like seeing the Aussies, the Aussies in their race in

607
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 2: prison where they like backing each other, were there hanging

608
00:25:59,400 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: around each other?

609
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's it's known withinside and outside that Ossie's

610
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: going back each other as he's going back each other.

611
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: Not not the way Islanders back each other, not the

612
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: way the Lebos back each other. You know, it's so forth.

613
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, but ten to fifteen

614
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: years ago, Ozzie's were strongholds. Assies backed each other. Anyone

615
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 3: who's done time fifteen twenty years ago when we were

616
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 3: babies basically will tell you Aussies back to each other.

617
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what's happened along the way, but they

618
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 3: don't anymore. And that's another reason why I hung out

619
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 3: with the Islanders growing up, because anytime I ever had

620
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: an altercation or drama with someone, it was a black

621
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: colored still yeah, yeah, it was an Islander back and

622
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 3: me up. It was never my own kind. Myne kind

623
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: always used to leave me with it, you know what

624
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 3: I mean. And that's why I've always had this perspective

625
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: on Ossie's and I didn't just grow this perspective.

626
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: I didn't just have this.

627
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: I've had this for ten years of my life. I've

628
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 3: done this information. Yeah about high school, it's just I

629
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 3: don't know, bro the just And I always said, like

630
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 3: if Ozzie was walking down the street and seeing four

631
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 3: island Is jumping and Aussie, he wouldn't cross the road.

632
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even Onland was getting.

633
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: Jumped across the street by four white blokes Inland walk past. Yeah,

634
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: because that's your culture, that's your color.

635
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: He don't have that. They don't have that culture. They

636
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: don't have that. People hate on it. But I'm a

637
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: man of fact, guys. How it is not a spade

638
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: of spade.

639
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right.

640
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, you're.

641
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: Definitely right because I remember saying that most of the

642
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 4: ass is getting really hang around a lot, you know,

643
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 4: from all the yards that I was going through. But

644
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 4: in my experience as well, to elaborate on that, I

645
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 4: think that's why I find I found in my experience

646
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 4: in jail, like some of the Ossies I met there

647
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: were really hard solid yeah, like load wolves.

648
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, very very They're not very individual yeah,

649
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 7: Like I remember growing up, I had this I had

650
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 7: this blungey friend that I used to always go.

651
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: I remember him. Yeah, one drop is name.

652
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: Just for the safety of it, I used to always

653
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: go over his house after school because man, his family

654
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: used to cook dinners.

655
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: On dinners, Bro, I don't want to go home to noodles.

656
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I used to always ask my mom, let me go

657
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: over my mate's house.

658
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: But when I went over, I realized in the community, bro,

659
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: divorce is so common, like it's it's oh yeah, no,

660
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: that's that's the stepdad.

661
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the step mother. It's such a big.

662
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: Thing, you know, all in the community if someone divorced,

663
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense to us. It does happen, It

664
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: does happen, but it's it's just very rare and I

665
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: and I feel like what I experienced and seeing for myself,

666
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: like divorces happened almost like like on.

667
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: A daily right in the Lung community. Ye, it's normal.

668
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: And I feel like that's why a lot of boys

669
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: join gangs.

670
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: That's a lot of ones and like and liked.

671
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: And that's just to elaborate on the Pacific Island the

672
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: gangs and then the island the boys joining gangs.

673
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: And drill groups.

674
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: And you know why because I feel like I could

675
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: speak on it a bit because I grew up with them.

676
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

677
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: I used to see my best mate pump guys. My

678
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: dad pumped hidings, bro, and he could you can never

679
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: hit your parents because of course.

680
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: So it's like all his anger and pain.

681
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: Inside because it's because he was late the church for

682
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: two minutes or because he didn't do the dishes is

683
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: very common, and he gets fucking pumped with it with

684
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: a vacuum card or something, you know.

685
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: What I mean, he definitely because it was two minutes,

686
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: two minutes late the church and his anger.

687
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: Building inside these people, and then they go on the

688
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: streets and they form groups together because they get the love.

689
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: They don't get a home.

690
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: They get pumped at home, so they hang out boys

691
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: on the streets and they go fucking pump other boys.

692
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they go the masculinity outside. Wow, that's so true.

693
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: That's the that's bro. That's wow. That's so true. I

694
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: never thought of.

695
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: It like that because so much pain is built inside

696
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: these boys.

697
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: But they get hiding.

698
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: And when you're when you're raising young men, I guess

699
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: that kind of takes away their confidence, because if you're

700
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: if you want your son to grow up confident, but

701
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: then you're also you won't let him like reason like

702
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: note of it. I'm not saying talking back, but you

703
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: won't even let him reason because sometimes island, the parents

704
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: can be like they don't even want you to know,

705
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: like nothing, They don't want you to even fix your face.

706
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: That face like they don't want to hear nothing from you.

707
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: You want to go go. You want to raise a

708
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: sun that you know is confident.

709
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: You need him to be able to reason with himself

710
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: and like you know what I mean, because then if

711
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: he's if he can't say anything, then he's he's going

712
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: out to society knowing that, oh you know what, I've

713
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: been taught that I just got to stay humble and

714
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: I just got to stay in my lane.

715
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: I just gotta And.

716
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: I guess it kind of shuns us down to this

717
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: little thing where we can't we can't grow out of

718
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: this potential that we're you know, And that's that's why

719
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm glad we started this podcast. Man, We're just trying

720
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: to outreach these people because there's a lot of these.

721
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: Going for it.

722
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: I would say that would you say that the statistics

723
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 4: show that around the Mountjoy and Penrith areas that the

724
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: divorce and the violence is so high. To these youngins

725
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: are trying to look for a sense of belonging in

726
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: these groups, in these games, to feel love, to feel

727
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 4: that protection, feel that safety.

728
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: I agree, Bro, there's no there's no love at home

729
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: for these boys. They're on the street looking for love.

730
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: They're looking for what they lack at home and sometimes, Bro,

731
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: the biggest, the biggest issue is that's not been in

732
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: the picture. Yeah, but I've got gone for days about it.

733
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: But it's it's the way the government has aligned it.

734
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: The government wants it to be that way. They want

735
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: they want the house. They are sorry, don't want the house.

736
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: They locked the door because.

737
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: They want the dad out of the house. They wanted

738
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: that out of the home. They want the mom to

739
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: be going the world. So the kids are raised by

740
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: the education system. They're raised by the school. They're raised

741
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: by the teachers, so they're not raised by the parent values.

742
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: That values.

743
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they do.

744
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: You've actually got a strong point because in my experience

745
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: in the past, what I've seen for the the New

746
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 4: South Wales system, you know, to do with jail and

747
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 4: a they actually favoritized the wife or the you know,

748
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 4: the girls, the females in whatever case. It is females

749
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 4: that are held on a on a pedestal, so they

750
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: mostly always get away with everything. And this is this

751
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: is what causes men's mental health.

752
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, really, you know, just like but I've seen

753
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: so many guys and I've even heard of guys like

754
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: passing away in jail licking themselves. But I was actually

755
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: in Liftgo when an incident happened. This guy actually ends

756
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: up nicking himself because I heard it was from some girl.

757
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: A lot of boys are facing it.

758
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: It's just so upsetting how no one really looks into,

759
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 4: you know, what, what the men's mental health is going through.

760
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: But I think that that's one thing.

761
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: We needed to try to outline, you know, especially in

762
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: this podcast, he really talks about it.

763
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: It's good that you started this podcast. You like, at

764
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: the end of the day, people listen to music and

765
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: they listen to a message, But people listen to podcasts

766
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: and listen to a message too.

767
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

768
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: So if we can, if you can do your best

769
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: moving forward, as well as myself and as long as

770
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: we all can move forward and.

771
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: Spread a positive message.

772
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: If it hurts, it hurts, yeah, but sometimes you know,

773
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: it needs to grow, and it's good that what he's doing.

774
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: Bro.

775
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: And I guess having these having these like hard yarns,

776
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: it's important.

777
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know how important it was. I was.

778
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: I was just telling the brother before we started that

779
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: I was tripping out on like how much traction.

780
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: My podcast went over a normal yarn.

781
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: And what I was speaking to the brother was about,

782
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: like we agreed that people like us that have been

783
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: through the rough and we've learned our lessons, these are

784
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: normal yarns to us. But then obviously we didn't even

785
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: we didn't. We didn't understand how it is for you young

786
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: fellas out there, or basically even anyone that just they

787
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: need to just hear these type of conversations that never

788
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: don't talk about this stuff at the drink ups, you know,

789
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: they don't talk about this real talk, you know, And

790
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: I think it's important. We like, we have laughs, we

791
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: have laughs, we have stories, but then we also round

792
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: up and we remind each other.

793
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: What's real, you know.

794
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what I gain traction too, is

795
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: because people relate to it, and people people know what

796
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: you're saying. You know, they know what you're saying. That's

797
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: why a lot of people watch it and like and boat.

798
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now, a lot of boys are

799
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: covered with pride and ego blanket and bro, straight up

800
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: boys from my area probably watch that and agree with you,

801
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: but they're not gonna like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're

802
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: not gonna like it. Same with some of the stuff

803
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: I post. Like boys that don't like me agree with

804
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: my message, but because it's me, they're not liking it.

805
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: That's the way it works.

806
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: But they know what you're saying, you know what I mean,

807
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 3: They're all relate like that. Bro, it's the fucking word something.

808
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about that? The business. So I

809
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 1: dropped the little bit.

810
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: Of a business game on my on my life as

811
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur in my last and man, I saw a

812
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: lot of my own people were just making jokes in

813
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: the comments. But you know why you're making jokes and

814
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: I'm making money because you're in a comment section.

815
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: Like like, you know what, you guys will laugh at you.

816
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: You guys will laugh at me, and then you guys

817
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: will go and Mike and share some someone that doesn't

818
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: even know you like Bill Gates or some gazillion there,

819
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: and he's probably saying the same thing that I said.

820
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: And I'm here telling you that I am you.

821
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: You know I was you. I'm exactly. I know how

822
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: everything works. I know how it feels.

823
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: When your car regio is coming up and you're stressing

824
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: out about bills. I was there.

825
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: So that's why the only reason why I'm dropping game

826
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: is not to flex on anyone.

827
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: I'm trying to help. I'm trying to help wherever I can.

828
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: You know what it is.

829
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: It's easy to point the finger because it just it

830
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: justifies the risk they won't take. Do you know it's

831
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: easy to laugh at him looking at him.

832
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's filming himself and talking to himself, try trying

833
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: to make away for himself.

834
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: I don't need to do that. It saves them the

835
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: embarrassment at the end of the day. At the end

836
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 3: of the day, you have to you have to embarrass

837
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 3: yourself a million times before you become successful at you.

838
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Know, I believe that.

839
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 3: I believe that one like you've got to look like

840
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: a foolish beginner, you know what I mean? With all

841
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: that you're do in life. No one starts technic, no

842
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: one starts day, but yeah, the ones that are on

843
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: the sidelines. But everyone's got a position to play, and

844
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: that's their position. Yeah, they don't want to be in

845
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: the field. They don't want to be there. You know

846
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: that's crazy, it is. Yeah, I got fixed skin after

847
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 3: with a.

848
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: Lot of it.

849
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you would know exactly what I'm talking. It

850
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: would be only people, yeah, yeah, the young people, the people,

851
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: and you know, for me, it's usually with people I

852
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: grew up with. Yeah, that I'll start with that you

853
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: live with at times the most with the most evil

854
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: intentions come from one hundred percent. Speaking of that, I

855
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: remember you.

856
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 4: You made it also in Instagram on fake friends, you know,

857
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 4: Spinks elaborate on that.

858
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well what made you like? But I was actually

859
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: shocked that.

860
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: You came up with something like obviously some experience behind that. Yeah,

861
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: obviously you have to have some kind of experience back there.

862
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so friends, friends are awkward, bro having friends like

863
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't like to say you have friends

864
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: anymore like I like to say like associates.

865
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you have to.

866
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: You have to prove yourself. Yeah, a friend, like Yeah,

867
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: it's there's snakes everywhere in all levels of the field.

868
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: You just don't know who black, black, white, or blue

869
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: by exactly right.

870
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: And it's like you don't really know where you're staying

871
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: with someone until you have a fallout. Yeah, you have

872
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: an argument with someone, you really don't know their intentions.

873
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Yeah.

874
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: And when you stop bringing product to the table and

875
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: you stop bringing it out and you bring it back,

876
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: that's when they go, we'll funk, You're not needed no more.

877
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

878
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: That was the case with me many times when I

879
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 3: stopped bringing to the table, I said, no, I don't

880
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: want to do that no more. We know my mate, nom,

881
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: we'll get it out of me, you know what I mean.

882
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 3: That's what I've been along the way. So I look

883
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: at mates weed now. Yeah, at the end of the day, bro,

884
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 3: all you need is your family and your missus.

885
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: Bro.

886
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you get older, as you get older, you

887
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: realize that, you realize that by having a fucking solemn missus,

888
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 3: b having everything, having a cooked.

889
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: Meal every night, everything.

890
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: Bro, close, washed, the little basic things is so much

891
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: more better than that than hang around with a bunch

892
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 3: of fucking idiots. But like stayed out brother of mates,

893
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: some of the boys watched some of the boys. But

894
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: it's a certain certain you know what I'm saying. You

895
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

896
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: You know what to add on to that. But I'll

897
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: tell you now, I agree one hundred percent.

898
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 8: Your missus is the truest homie you have on your

899
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 8: trust me, your missus will be there one hundredfold more

900
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 8: than the boys will. And I've I've seen this with

901
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 8: my own eyes. I've seen this with my own eyes

902
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 8: that my missus.

903
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: Lucky for me, I've got a I've got a very

904
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: good girl and she picked me up a lot of

905
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 2: times when I was at my lowest, you know. And yeah,

906
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: just having a good girl behind you, it can it

907
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: can change breaking, make or break you.

908
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: It can make or break you. Bro.

909
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: Like behind every successful man is a better woman.

910
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: Bro. That's what they say.

911
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: Every every millionaire in the world's going to missus.

912
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. If you want to

913
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: be games and not have a missus, there you go.

914
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: Look at the millionaires, look at everyone. And I think

915
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: that it's so I guess what, it's hard now because

916
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: would you say girls in this generation are kind of

917
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: different now, it's.

918
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: Kind of hard to find a property now, you reckon

919
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it.

920
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 4: Why it's hard because society is changing like really fast.

921
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 4: Crazy would you say it's because of social media. Maybe

922
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 4: there's a lot of pressure out there, you know, with expectations.

923
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: Well, it goes back to the conversation we just had

924
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: earlier about taking the man out of the home. Women

925
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: and women are currently playing men roles, raising kids by themselves.

926
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: Bringing the bread home by themselves.

927
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: So now they're playing father in mine. You know, they're

928
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: becoming men like women are becoming men now when women

929
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: are raising kids by themselves now, because the means out

930
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: at home, the men's got a v oh. The men's

931
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: got a v O because he told the missus a

932
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: shut up and the coppers come there and the rest

933
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: of him took him the jail. So he's not allowed

934
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: to see the kids for two years now because he

935
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: said shut up to his missus.

936
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Very common, it's very very common.

937
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 3: It happens because the police give a v O s

938
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: now just for shouting, just for shouting. Ye let someone

939
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: you get a v oh. Trust me, bro, I've been

940
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 3: in the mix with it all.

941
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

942
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 3: I know how it works. It's future the way it works.

943
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: Some shit, you don't even do the milk, milk, milk,

944
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, one hundred percent. When women are now becoming men,

945
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 3: they act like men, they talk like men, even dressing

946
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: like men.

947
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, crazy, yeah yeah.

948
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: What's your advice to these women that want to act

949
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: like men?

950
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: If you're gonna make a lot of women in the comments,

951
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: now you can just say no comment.

952
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: Like at the end of the day, I've got a missus,

953
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: Like one day, like you know, maybe I'll have a daughter.

954
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 3: So you've got to respect women to a certain degree.

955
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: You know, there wasn't when I was young. I didn't

956
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 3: respect women. I didn't I didn't care. I didn't look

957
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: at them like equals at the end of the day.

958
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: But they play a major role in the world. You know,

959
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: we wouldn't be here without them.

960
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 5: No, no, there's just just wester. I don't know, bro,

961
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 5: I'm the same.

962
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: I think if you've got a good girl, girls, they

963
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: they rely on they rely on now loyalty, so that's

964
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 2: all all they're like. They rely no loyalty. We rely

965
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: on their patients for them to wait for us to

966
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: become who we want to be like, because we want

967
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: to become that that Prince Charming that they've always dreamt

968
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: of as a little girl.

969
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: But we just want them to be patient.

970
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: Now when you're when you're on the pisce every day

971
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: bringing your mate, it's hard to be patient.

972
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: Boys. It's very hard for them to be patient when

973
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're you're going out to the pub

974
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: every weekend. So try and make it as easy as possible,

975
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, just you know what.

976
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: I mean to elaborate on that, to extend on that.

977
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: I actually believe that women want to receive love from

978
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 2: men and men want to receive respect from women.

979
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: That's what I very true, very true.

980
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: I feel like if those two work hand in hand,

981
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: then that's a healthy relationship.

982
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: Hundred percent, undred percent.

983
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

984
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: The only way a relationship is ever going to work

985
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: as if the man are the woman is calm, and

986
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: then the man the woman.

987
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: Get in trouble. Don't scream. Don't scream at us.

988
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: Previous relationships I've had, right if the woman was the aggressor,

989
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: like I used to be the aggressor. But if the

990
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: women was the aggressor, she would clash, crash anytime I

991
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: would be angry, she would become angry anytime I swear,

992
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: should swear, you know, but if the woman is calm,

993
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: and if you swear, she she actually instead of arguing

994
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: back with you, she gives you time what's wrong? You know,

995
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: she works you.

996
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: You need you need someone who's calm.

997
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also being the alpha male of the relationship.

998
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: Obviously you're going to like your daily job. You're doing

999
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 2: ten twelve hours a day.

1000
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: The last thing you want to do is come back

1001
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 4: home and listen to someone screaming at you.

1002
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1003
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so important.

1004
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: There's a lot of those out there, see them all everywhere,

1005
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: you know, like shows like Married at First Sight and

1006
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: these dating shows pop the balloon, and.

1007
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: It doesn't help the help, but it doesn't help the

1008
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: case of relationships.

1009
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: Now.

1010
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 3: Now, young girls are watching these reality TV shows and

1011
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: pop the balloon and fucking treat the men like vice versa.

1012
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: Men are treating women like she because the stupid shows

1013
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: they're put in front of our faces. And that's why

1014
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,479
Speaker 3: they call it entertainment. Yeah, give him entertainment some breads

1015
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: and some crumbs, well, you know, and they'll be fooled.

1016
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: For the rest of their life. Yeah.

1017
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think these guys just been getting consumer with

1018
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: too much entertainment and just need a check of reality

1019
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: every now and then.

1020
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: But it's like, I don't want to say it, but

1021
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: n for us, yeah, that's brainwashing.

1022
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: Anyone says gambling to be honest, I'll be honest.

1023
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: I think watching footy was a massive part of my reality.

1024
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: Like you just felt like, as someone from Western Sydney,

1025
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: you have to be a part of some team for

1026
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: some reason, you just had to be a part of

1027
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: the team. But then that kind of like fair enough

1028
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: to all the boys that can handle it and just

1029
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: have a couple of beers and just that they don't

1030
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: carry on about it.

1031
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough.

1032
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: But for for me, I think, like for any boy

1033
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: from Western Sydney, we're very passionate about anything you do,

1034
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: very passionate.

1035
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: We can't half hard anything. We're all in everything.

1036
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: So and then but then he drags and other negative

1037
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: things like drinking ndors and then power gambling.

1038
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: So for me this year, I actually haven't watched one game.

1039
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: I don't watch one game and like, and I'm glad

1040
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: because my team's not doing too well. But what I've

1041
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: heard this guy is watching the game.

1042
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: Bro.

1043
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: It's true what you said. It goes hand in hand

1044
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: it's entertainment. It's to keep us at bay. Yeah, keep

1045
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: everyone at bay as long as we've got football, gambling

1046
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: and that. But if they gave it, But honestly, let's

1047
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: be if they gave a fuck about people games and

1048
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: why advertising it everywhere?

1049
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1050
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: Also, why are they advertising case and McDonald's on the

1051
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 3: NRL football field when it's positive health and it doesn't

1052
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 3: make it's because it's money. The money is rid of

1053
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: all evil. It's at the top of it. Bro, It's

1054
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: fucking go for these guys.

1055
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: It's too It's true. Speaking of.

1056
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: Content creation, hood Dories.

1057
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: Came out that she was popping off. How did you

1058
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: come to that? Like, what what inspired spending?

1059
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 3: Spending in the spot? And so I've done it and

1060
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: I always say that always real spending inspired to me. Definitely, definitely.

1061
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people were like they will

1062
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: get at the end of the day, we're all getting

1063
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 3: inspiration of someone. No one's fault is an original fall. No,

1064
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: everything has already been. So you know, like I was,

1065
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: you know, I've seen spending a few times. I went

1066
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: and done the mount drew into with him and he

1067
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: just gave the inspiration from the jump and I just knew,

1068
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: like he stopped doing it and started going over season

1069
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: and and I'm like, fucking I'm going to start doing

1070
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 3: all the places he missed out on. And then they

1071
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: kind of decided to take a bit of a turn

1072
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: and do extremely well. But then I don't know, I

1073
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: just agree with different perspective overnight, and I stopped doing

1074
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: it because, like I just I didn't really like the

1075
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: fact that I was going into like housing commission neighborhoods

1076
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: and just putting the camera in front of people's.

1077
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah well yeah, I never never even saw it. From

1078
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: that perspective, I can.

1079
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: Tell that a lot of money for that bro, A

1080
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 3: lot of money for that bro, like just because the

1081
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: didn't want to do that. Because but when I was

1082
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 3: doing those logs and I was doing fifty k within

1083
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: twenty four hours, anyone in those YouTube numbers I know

1084
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: that knows that's big. Big, That is that consistently though,

1085
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: that that consiste and I can't tell it and my misses,

1086
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: my witness I don't want to do it, not more

1087
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: because because that's simple factor. Because I was going with

1088
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 3: like houses, houses, and then like seeing these kids no

1089
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: clothes on and just the parents drunk and It's just

1090
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: reminded Maze looking at kids.

1091
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: But money you could make that.

1092
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 2: Type of this because yeah, you grew up on those principles. Yeah,

1093
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: you're like bad.

1094
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: Well I'm making a show. Yeah yeah, like little kids.

1095
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: And like you know, like running around the glass and

1096
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: sharps and graffiti and like in the living room and

1097
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: like rest of the head and night.

1098
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: Pa holes in the walls.

1099
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: You know, I'm looking at this, I'm like, well, man,

1100
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: and what minimum if I do that for a bit?

1101
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: I'm selling myself for that. I'm selling myself to do that.

1102
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: Respect for that, man, So I can tell your heart

1103
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: is fully solilfied with Moses.

1104
00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: You know.

1105
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: It's just not a lot of content creators Bonustralia. They

1106
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 3: are fucking bad for it. Yeah, bad for the line

1107
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: and skim schemers, bro. Like I could go on to death,

1108
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: I don't need to. Yeah, yeah, say for what it is.

1109
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: But a lot of boys are pulling the wall over

1110
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: a lot of people's eyes, the way who they are

1111
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: as a person and what they do.

1112
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Is there any regrets about it?

1113
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: Can even be hood dies? Was there any regrets stopping it?

1114
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: Or even prison? Any regrets in prison?

1115
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: Bro?

1116
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: Fucking any regrets in prison, going to prison.

1117
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: Or even or even like in life in general, what's

1118
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 2: like the biggest regret you reckon?

1119
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 3: I wish I didn't give a fuck sooner. I wish

1120
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: I didn't care about I wish I didn't care what

1121
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: people thought about me back then, because I'd be so

1122
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: much further because in the grand scheme of things, which

1123
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 3: your specs the dust. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in one hundred

1124
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: and let's say, one hundred and fifteen, one hundred and

1125
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: twenty years from now, none of us are going.

1126
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: To be here. Yeah, not even the producers right now.

1127
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: No one's going to be just microphones and.

1128
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 3: You know, like some of the biggest names on this

1129
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: earth right now, but I'm talking like the Michael Jordan names,

1130
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: and that in five hundred years that would be a

1131
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: race from history.

1132
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: None even know who they are, you know, or maybe maybe

1133
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: someone less than what you're saying, like we don't matter,

1134
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: we don't matter, you know what.

1135
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: I think I was going to say something else when

1136
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: because asking that question, I thought of the most things

1137
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: I regret, and I thought I locked in my answer

1138
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: that when you said that, like, Na, that's that's my

1139
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: number one. The second will be the reply, my verse,

1140
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: my verse, I'll look.

1141
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: Back at my music, but oh, do.

1142
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: Be honest someone, that's like, when you're around your boys,

1143
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: like when you were doing music, do they play your music.

1144
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: When you when you're going to drink up with them? Yeah?

1145
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: Turn that ship. Yeah, I leave the room.

1146
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: I'll leave the room like it's fucking cringe. Show someone

1147
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: this is him and you just in your life.

1148
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: Jay. I remember one time, one time missus were like

1149
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 2: lining out to get a sigh or something and this shop,

1150
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: I think the owner was a massive fan.

1151
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: He started playing Still Here by Twump in his shop

1152
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: and I'm just standing there. I'm like, I'm just sweating.

1153
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: It's like you're in your voice on the phone.

1154
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: And then I look around to look at him and

1155
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: it's like this, Yeah, I.

1156
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: Know what you're saying, Bro, I know what you're saying. Yeah,

1157
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: it's just yeah. I wish I didn't give a fox

1158
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 3: sooner people's opinions, because at the end of the day,

1159
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: anyone who's ever had an opinion that I've given a

1160
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 3: funk about, at some point it doesn't even matter anymore,

1161
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 3: not even life.

1162
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: And I think we're gonna You're gonna get judged regardless

1163
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: of what. It doesn't matter to make your money, bro,

1164
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: make your dosh.

1165
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 2: And I think one of the biggest things that changed

1166
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: that gave me that same mindset that you have was

1167
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 2: the probably well arguably well in my case, I think

1168
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: he is the most famous and important person that ever

1169
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: walked the earth was judged all the way up until

1170
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: his death.

1171
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. If you guys don't know what I'm talking about.

1172
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: And so if you ever feel like you're getting judged

1173
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: and you're like, you're scared to do this, you're scared

1174
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: to do that. Brother, the most important person that ever

1175
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: walked the face of the earth was judged all the

1176
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 2: way up to his death.

1177
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeahdred percent, one hundred percent what you just said that

1178
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: I agree with every.

1179
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: More than it was.

1180
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 2: You can't you can't face any more embarrassment and shame

1181
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: and than what they did to him, you know what

1182
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: I mean. So for you to see, it's it's an

1183
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: ego thing exactly before. Sometimes we try to put on

1184
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: big shoes that we don't fit in, and we try

1185
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: to put on this persona. And I know that because

1186
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: I was there as well. I had a very big

1187
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: ego when I was When I was younger, and then

1188
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: the faster you become, you come to your reality and

1189
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: you just you do your job as a father or

1190
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: as a as a husband, and you learn to help

1191
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: those around you. The better your life will be and

1192
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: you'll prosper much more positive.

1193
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just I don't know, man, the Australian community

1194
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: are weird, like you just hate, Like it's full of

1195
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: haters in a sense. You know, what's the term tall

1196
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 3: poppies in Germany?

1197
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, and they get hard with it too.

1198
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what it.

1199
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 3: Is, like it's people in Australia just don't like seeing

1200
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 3: people do well. Yeah, Like I don't know if it's

1201
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: the social media, I don't know.

1202
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would say it's a mix of everything,

1203
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 4: especially like living in Sydney.

1204
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: Do you get hate from your area?

1205
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1206
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know what, you know what I'm saying,

1207
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 3: that's the same as me. But it's always been weird

1208
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 3: with me. And this is another reason why I've never

1209
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 3: really engaged in the political political post cod drama. Yeah,

1210
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 3: because I've always I've always got in love from boys

1211
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 3: from different codes, from different areas, yo, yo, over my

1212
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 3: over my own area, you know, and it's like it's odd, bro,

1213
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 3: exactly because you come from the same place as certain

1214
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: people and they can't stand that you're doing something else

1215
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 3: with your time. Maybe it's like I went to school

1216
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: with him, Like I had a blood common on one

1217
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 3: of my posts yesterday goes on he said something that

1218
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 3: he goes on my mate went to school with your

1219
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: ha ha ha what fucking fifteen twenty years ago?

1220
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: Went to school.

1221
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 3: Like what you think I'm the same person from when

1222
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: I was in year sixty man can Yeah.

1223
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 2: They just want to put they want to like pin

1224
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: something on you so they feel better about them.

1225
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 3: So I don't buy back no more, no, like, I

1226
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: just let them go because because that's what they want.

1227
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: Because some of these people on live very very very

1228
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 3: ordinary lives. They do zero to funk all with their lives.

1229
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 3: So getting a reply from one of you's or me

1230
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 3: or whoever else is watching that doing is all they want.

1231
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: It's like a million dollars Yeah for the screenshot.

1232
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: Put it on my story.

1233
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: Look got his attention? Yeah, true, very very true.

1234
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: A lot of like someone and like because we the

1235
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: reason why we so we used to never look through comments.

1236
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: But as people who are trying to we're trying to

1237
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: bring a real podcast show to everyone, and like we

1238
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: really want to engage with our supporters, so we have

1239
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: agreed to kind of like kind of go through some

1240
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: comments and like try to reply interact with our fans.

1241
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: But man, sometimes, brother, I'm telling you, some fucking times,

1242
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: I just.

1243
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: Want to like, why were you doing this ship for

1244
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: these donkeys?

1245
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: It drives me mad.

1246
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of like and behind the fake

1247
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: accounts as well. I realized that they do love it

1248
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 2: when you're by back.

1249
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love it, bro.

1250
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah have you been saying more more than likely? Bro,

1251
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 3: it's it's someone you know. Oh yeah, that's the case

1252
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 3: of me. It's like some stuff I've seen throughout the years,

1253
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: or comments or some fake a counters.

1254
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: How do you know that? Yeah? What are you saying

1255
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: that it's a bit.

1256
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 2: Too detail something there was a fake Like you'll be

1257
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: a fake comment and they will be like stick to

1258
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: the scaffold.

1259
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: He's one of the boys.

1260
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 3: Used to.

1261
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: No nothing.

1262
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 3: That's why it's better to be an open book. That's

1263
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: why I'm an overbooking now.

1264
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: Bro.

1265
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 3: Like if something, if I've done something or someone says

1266
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: up to me and I didn't Yeah, that's the person

1267
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: I don't I don't hide, I don't fake sheet, I

1268
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 3: don't own nothing because.

1269
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 2: You know what, though, in contrast to this, I think

1270
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: there's another important thing to talk about.

1271
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: I've learned to deal with the fact that your friends

1272
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: aren't your fans, and your fans aren't your friends. So

1273
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: don't expect, like, and I'm guilty of this, like every

1274
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: time you see your mates, don't expect them to be

1275
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: all over your like you're doing this and that, like,

1276
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: be the same person that you always work before the

1277
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: music started, this and that, and then your fans aren't

1278
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: your friends. And I think you already know this. Like it.

1279
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: Like some people that that like it, they they adore my.

1280
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: Music, they're not necessarily sometimes people that like, especially when

1281
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: they're running up to you.

1282
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: And have you ever had someone run up in oxbort photo,

1283
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: like in the mall or somewhere.

1284
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: You feel like it's rude to saying no, But sometimes

1285
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 2: it's the way that it happens. Yeah. Yeah, And we're western,

1286
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: we're Western Sydney boys, you know, we're not used to

1287
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 2: that kind of that those type of interactions.

1288
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, just running up to your life.

1289
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying one hundred percent. Yeah,

1290
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: it's like you you don't want to tell them now either.

1291
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: You don't want to tell them because then it ruins

1292
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: your your image, Yeah, who you're trying to be.

1293
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: But like I try to be open about it.

1294
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 3: Like anytime someone comes up to me or you know,

1295
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 3: ask for a photo, I try to give him the

1296
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: benefit of they don't give him a photo even if

1297
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: I'm out because sometimes to be my misses, you know,

1298
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 3: and like people come up as for photos and that.

1299
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: It's like sometimes the even shopping center, these guys like

1300
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: the middle of the miles b like in woollies. Like

1301
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: last week I was in the worst bro. I was

1302
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 3: just kicking and getting chocolates and that. But yeah, that

1303
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: sounds come out and got a photo of me.

1304
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: Bro.

1305
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: Like it's like in front of people trying to shop,

1306
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 3: you do, well what do you do? But man, like,

1307
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: I'm grateful for it regardless, you know what. I'm grateful

1308
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: for it because who knows that we could be just ghost.

1309
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a platform that we can spread positivity. That's

1310
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: a good way to see it.

1311
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, every day, like every time someone comes up and

1312
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 3: says they like what I'm doing, but it reminds me that, Okay,

1313
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 3: I am actually on a good track. Imagine no one

1314
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 3: come up to you guys.

1315
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine no one.

1316
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 3: Said, then you've be doing something wrong there.

1317
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: Hey man, big ups to you. Man.

1318
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: Like, after coming this whole way and just seeing your transformation,

1319
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: is there anything that you would ever change about your

1320
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: past life? Nah?

1321
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 1: Zero? Yeah zero?

1322
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you could probably stay away from the gangs

1323
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: a bit and then hanging out. Yeah, like the real talk,

1324
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: Like if I could stay away from start again, but

1325
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: just start my journey quicker and better, you know, But

1326
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 3: like just you know, just stay away from certain activities

1327
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: certain especially if you're half Like if you just you know,

1328
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 3: you're on the fence of your life, bro, Like you

1329
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: kind of want to be a cream You kind of

1330
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: want to make money. But at the same time too,

1331
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: you don't want to go to jail and you want

1332
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: to stay home and see your mates and that, like,

1333
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: and that's what it's not like I try to tell

1334
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 3: you young boys too, Like it's it's okay to wrap

1335
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 3: your code and be a gang style or whatever you

1336
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: want to do, but just be prepared for the repercussions. Yeah,

1337
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 3: to be prepared because like a lot of a lot

1338
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: of these boys forget that part.

1339
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you always here boys saying oh we got him,

1340
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: we got here, but when they got.

1341
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: When they got you know, Like that's what I say

1342
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: to these boys, like be prepared because like you might

1343
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: have thirty boys by your side on the outside when

1344
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 3: you when you're in cars the inside and you go

1345
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 3: into a wing and you go into the lines then

1346
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 3: and then there's six boys up on the rail that

1347
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 3: you've been talking about because you can't do you can't

1348
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: fucking backdoor. Bro, You're going in there and if you're lucky,

1349
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 3: six of them might jump down and might get a

1350
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 3: few scratches on you, or you might get worse.

1351
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go, bro, giving you the ropes,

1352
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: giving you the ones, giving the ropes. Man shout out

1353
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: to the brother coming all the way all the way

1354
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: down from his area and uh yeah, like even off

1355
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: set where I'm sure we're going to have a really

1356
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: good friendship moving forward. I love people with this type

1357
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: of mindset spreading positivity, but also people that go against

1358
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: the grain, people that go against what we've been taught,

1359
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: and people that just want to challenge our way of thinking,

1360
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: changing the narrative. I think we've got to it's important

1361
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: to have these type of conversations. Anything like any advice

1362
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: you would give out to any young ins. There's a

1363
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: hundred youngins out there and maybe one of them is

1364
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: ready to listen and take this on.

1365
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: What do you say to this blood.

1366
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah with advice like yeah, brains, My biggest advice is

1367
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: someone just do what you want to do, you know,

1368
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: don't worry about anyone else, focus.

1369
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: On what you want to do.

1370
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,439
Speaker 3: Like Brian, like, there's so many boys that are older

1371
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 3: than us right now that wish they could go back,

1372
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 3: that wish take a sad high, go back to high

1373
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 3: school and actually like to put their head down. But like, realistically, Bro,

1374
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 3: your mates don't give a fucking Bro. No, your mates

1375
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 3: don't care. Like I know, I know they sit there

1376
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 3: and as I love you, bro, I love your Yeah,

1377
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 3: I love your mission, but they really don't cut now.

1378
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: And what I take away from it is that, like,

1379
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: what about all the famous people like Hollywood actors that

1380
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 3: have died recently, m h, can you remember any names?

1381
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: No one gives a fuck and they were the biggest

1382
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: names in the world. You will probably come up as

1383
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: real but that's it. You'll forget it.

1384
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 3: Aussie creators that have you know, passed away in the

1385
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: last five years, you know, and you look at it

1386
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 3: like no one speaks about them, bro anymore.

1387
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: No, I'm not being rude, but it's the true true.

1388
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 3: Two weeks, two weeks if we were to passed now,

1389
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 3: two weeks from now, but the only people that care

1390
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 3: about you is your mum, your family, your brother and sisters.

1391
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 3: You think give you be lucky to visit visit your graves.

1392
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: Bro.

1393
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll talk, but it sucks to hear. But sometimes

1394
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 3: pain is the biggest lesson.

1395
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: That's work, that's the work. And being obviously us being

1396
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: from the inn Wes, you being from men Joy.

1397
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: We are like I feel like as yes I'm from

1398
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: this area and as a form of representation, yes this

1399
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 2: is where I'm from. People look at my face. I've

1400
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: already had this persona. I can't run away from it.

1401
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: I am twenty one district, I am from the in

1402
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: the west. But as far as area codes, you're not

1403
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: paying the area codes bills and the area codes definitely

1404
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: ain't gonna pay your bills by yeah, yeah, yeah, So

1405
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: start building your own foundation, look after your family, lad, what.

1406
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: It is to bro.

1407
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 3: A lot of these young boys who wrep these area

1408
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 3: codes right now don't even know why they're beefing. They

1409
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: think it's an area code, you know. But if you

1410
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 3: would ask, if you would interview, like just speak to

1411
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: one of these youngins that are beefing, ask him why

1412
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 3: are you fighting him because he lives five kilometers in

1413
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 3: a different direction. Yeah, it makes no sense, bro, if

1414
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 3: they knew the truth about the area code stuff and

1415
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: the older boys of the older rappers and that who

1416
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 3: area code be if no one is a fuck, no

1417
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 3: straight out bro. All these older boys that you think

1418
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 3: you're involved in these area codes don't care. Yeah, they

1419
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 3: don't care. It's not that they they want to make money.

1420
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, if anyone who

1421
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: likes money and business knows that fights ruined business, ruins money,

1422
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 3: drama beef, it's not on.

1423
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: The same page. Yeah, money and beef, Like, no one cares.

1424
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 3: But what's taken over is the music beef. Yes, it's

1425
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 3: not post codef anymore, social media beef, and it's become

1426
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 3: personal and like, how can you consider it post code

1427
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 3: beef anymore when it's personal? Because people lives have been taken. Yeah,

1428
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 3: moms and dad's houses have been ran through cars.

1429
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does get a bit sticky than when. Yeah,

1430
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: he's so personal.

1431
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: Now it's going from postcode too. You would accept it

1432
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 3: now personal because if someone attacks my family, that's not

1433
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 3: a post code beef.

1434
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: Nah. No, that's that's personal. Nah.

1435
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: I guess that that falls into the umbrella. I was

1436
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: talking about to the other one of the other boys

1437
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 2: about this, He asks me, or do you do you

1438
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 2: steal beef? Let me let me just make this clear.

1439
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: Beef and haters are two separate things. To have beef,

1440
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: you need to or more parties to be involved, because

1441
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: that's how a beef works. It's a rivalry. It's two

1442
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: sides that are constantly back and forth. That's what a

1443
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: beef is. As far as today, I don't have beef

1444
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: if anyone because I don't have time for it.

1445
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: I don't have time for it. I might have people

1446
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: that hate me, I don't care. I might have people

1447
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: that hate me.

1448
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,959
Speaker 2: But like as the brother said, when when it comes

1449
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: to personal, oh yeah, bro, people, I'm standing my ground

1450
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: all day, all day of the week, every day of

1451
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: the week, I am. But as far as a beef

1452
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: and money. They do not collide on the same page

1453
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: at all.

1454
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: They don't. It's personal for a lot of boys. Now

1455
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: it's not.

1456
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 3: It's not about post codes now, it's long past that.

1457
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 3: When it fifteen twenty years ago, it was about post code.

1458
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 3: But I always always looked at postcode drama as a

1459
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 3: Pacific islander wall. It started off as islanders because I'm

1460
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: pretty sure it was when I could be wrong, correct

1461
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong, but Islanders were coming over from

1462
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 3: New Zealand and Tonga and sam come in early to

1463
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 3: the oh yeah yeah, and following each other. Yeah maybe wrong,

1464
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 3: maybe maybe the tongue and some more.

1465
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: Was there a big drama between.

1466
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm That's what I'm talking about, is

1467
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: a huge drama, you know. And I always viewed it

1468
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 3: as specific island and then like these days, there's Asians involved.

1469
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: Inside.

1470
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: It's the cocktail now, it's cocktail now, it's cocktail now.

1471
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: And me formally being from Granville, A lot of people say,

1472
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: look at this idiot. It doesn't even know Gramble on

1473
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 2: the map isn't part of the interest.

1474
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 3: I know that.

1475
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 2: I know that Grandle isn't part of the inwest On

1476
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: on the map Paramatter all the way to Penrith is

1477
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: actually part of the Greater West because it's from the

1478
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: Paramatter Road all the way to the great Greater West Highway.

1479
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: I'll give you guys a bit of a lesson on

1480
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: how the interest came to be what it is Maryland's

1481
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: Gramble giff it from what I know. I could be wrong,

1482
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: someone correct me. But like so back in the days

1483
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 2: what's known as ut B have you ever heard of

1484
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: talking about this? So there were boys from I think

1485
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: it was Griffith, or it was I think from Griffith.

1486
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: They they migrated down to home Bush Bellward area, which

1487
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: is the inner West suburbs, that's the inwardt suburbs bood.

1488
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: Like I said, that's where everything kind of began. Then

1489
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 2: over the years the boys from Burlwood that will start

1490
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: think that that kind of the tongue and boys there

1491
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: they kind of migrated out towards Granville, Maryland. But then

1492
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 2: they bring that same mentality. So that's why there in

1493
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: the West went from world homes, then he started spreading

1494
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 2: out towards Granville, Paramatta, Maryland's Auban.

1495
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: That's what I've been told anyway, from my older cousins

1496
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: and that. So Grenville's not in the west. Grandles not

1497
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: actually not in the west on the map.

1498
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: So when you look at the map, it's the inner

1499
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 2: West suburbs is actually Stratfield, Home Wash these areas.

1500
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it's called in the west because it's

1501
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: on the inside, whereas Paramatta and all the areas that

1502
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: are closer to Grandville are more closer to the west

1503
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: side of Sydney. So this is the west side of Sydney.

1504
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: But that's so that's how they in the west began.

1505
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: There you go, I don't even know that. Just look

1506
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: at something. I'm ready to get fired. Look, but that's

1507
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: what I know that. I'm just you gotta you gotta,

1508
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: you gotta accept. Bro.

1509
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 3: People people are always gonna say this stuff, bro, Like

1510
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 3: people say about what I'm saying.

1511
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: It's just part of the game. Bro. People People talk,

1512
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: people talk.

1513
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 4: Is there is there any plans set for your goals

1514
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 4: for the future? Are you making music? You're gonna be

1515
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 4: creating more content.

1516
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't make music anymore. I don't agree with my

1517
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 3: message anymore. The person I used to be, it just

1518
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 3: doesn't match what I am there. So I can't make

1519
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 3: lyrics up anymore. I can't wrap because like, yeah, that

1520
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't feel I am anymore. So music is

1521
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 3: definitely not ever coming back. And it's sad too because

1522
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 3: I built most of it off music. But a lot

1523
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 3: of people follow me there. I don't even know I'm

1524
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 3: a rapper and they just see my content and that.

1525
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 3: But the goal for now is just content creating, but

1526
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: just talking to the camera and like mark my words,

1527
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be one of the biggest in the country.

1528
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: As well.

1529
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 3: Bro, I'm just gonna keep kid knocking on the door.

1530
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 3: And if you have that, if you have that vision, Bro,

1531
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 3: I've been saying that cause I say straight, yeah, it

1532
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 3: will be on your way. Yeah, you've got to You've

1533
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 3: got to speak into existence, bro, even even when people

1534
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 3: but when I first started music and then I was

1535
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 3: saying it then, Bro, I'm gonna be people one day

1536
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 3: and everyone just laughing whatever, the same ones we laugh

1537
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:17,479
Speaker 3: I've overlapped them now.

1538
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: To see it.

1539
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 3: I could name five names of the bat right now.

1540
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: After the.

1541
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, good on your brother, your man A. Well,

1542
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 4: there you go, guys, that's not giving you the ropes.

1543
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 4: Hopefully you learn a thing or two from this.

1544
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: I think that's it.

1545
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 3: We've got to wrap it up and big love and

1546
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 3: appreciation for having me on.

1547
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're glad to have you.

1548
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: Man, this is such a big thing. But we're glad

1549
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: to have you on. Bros and cons.

1550
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: Show your authentic self before you blow up and you

1551
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: come big.

1552
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 3: But you heard the person just lastly, Yeah, bro, I

1553
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 3: feel like you on this time right now chapter you

1554
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 3: boys are in. I feel like you can really turn

1555
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 3: the area coaching. I feel like I feel like I

1556
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 3: feel slowly but surely one day, I feel like the

1557
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 3: area code drama can be put to bed.

1558
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: But it starts.

1559
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 3: It starts with the specific island the boys. Yeah, don't

1560
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 3: worry about, don't wory about the Asians, don't better than

1561
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 3: them because it doesn't matter. It starts to use yeah

1562
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 3: straight out as a white participant in the back as.

1563
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 2: No. But you know what, it's I'm glad that we're

1564
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: having these type of conversations because as boys that are

1565
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: looking more towards the positivity of our community. Obviously, that's

1566
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 2: that's the end goal, brother, that's the end goal. We

1567
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: want to raise the next generation to know what they're doing.

1568
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 4: So man, we're trying to unite the community once again.

1569
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 4: But if it takes twenty or thirty podcast sessions to

1570
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 4: get there, so be it.

1571
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: So be your brother.

1572
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 3: Start just start running the start hitting people up, extending

1573
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: yourself to people. But don't worry about the ego to pride.

1574
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 3: If that's reply, I don't reply.

1575
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 1: You guys, make sure you'd like to subscribe for the course.

1576
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: He's gone, you still want to understand it with the

1577
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 1: bang in the corner thing about