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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry.

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Speaker 2: Hello Lowels. Here. This next guest is the wonderful GEORGEA.

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Speaker 3: Love.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you know her from the Bachelorette. She was

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Speaker 1: the Bachelorette on season two in Australia. She is now

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Speaker 1: a really well known Aussie media personality. And we were

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Speaker 1: actually doing a pilates class together and I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: can I get you? We're in a reformer bead during

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Speaker 1: plati's and I was like, can I get you on

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Speaker 1: the old potty and she was like, yeah, of course.

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Speaker 1: And she had flown in I think from Bali. She

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Speaker 1: was flying straight out to Western Australia. The next day

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Speaker 1: she had one day in Melbourne and she goes, I've

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Speaker 1: got one hour and so this is the first time

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Speaker 1: I've done a podcast and had to put a timer

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Speaker 2: To you know, stick to time.

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Speaker 1: And as it was ticking along, I was like, oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, there's so many more questions I want to ask.

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Speaker 2: So I'm so.

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Speaker 1: Pumped to share this with you because the time flew

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Speaker 1: for me because we were having such a great chat.

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Speaker 1: And I really hope you enjoy the wonderful Georgia Love. Okay, hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Fearlessly Failing. I'm so pumped to have

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Speaker 1: this chicken here. Last time we saw each other I

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Speaker 1: think was in the Plarates room. Yes, it's the incredible

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Speaker 1: Georgia Love. And it's so funny when I told my

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Speaker 1: agent that I was doing this podcast and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'll ask George Love. And they were like, oh, she's

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Speaker 1: like high brow. Do you think you'd be able to

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Speaker 1: get her right?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm going to disappoint you so much

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Speaker 3: in the next hour.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. So my only thing is just have fun.

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Speaker 1: And also, this is actually the whole reason this exists

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Speaker 1: is because Instagram and I know you've got a massive

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Speaker 1: social media presence. It basically celebrates so much good stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I think the magic and correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: but the magic is almost like when she hits the fan. Yep,

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Speaker 1: oh absolutely, so I like, and you've got an incredible story,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm so excited, like I'm a bit of a

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to hear about that. So, first

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Speaker 2: of let's start before Batch. You were living in Tazzy.

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Speaker 2: I was, So, I'm.

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Speaker 3: From Melbourne originally, but I've been living in Tazzy for

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Speaker 3: nearly five years as a news reporter and presenter. So

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Speaker 3: I just got an opportunity down there. And when you

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Speaker 3: or a baby in news or any kind of media

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Speaker 3: or television, you go where the job is.

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Speaker 2: So I did.

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Speaker 3: I expected to do probably the twelve to eighteen month

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Speaker 3: But I just fell head over heels in love with

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Speaker 3: the place and the job and the company, and I

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Speaker 3: thought it was stuff and I'll work my way up here,

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Speaker 3: because what's the point rushing back to Melbourne when I

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Speaker 2: Is incredible, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Oh God, it's so such a massive piece of my heart.

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Speaker 3: So I lived literally a two minute walk from Salamanka.

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Speaker 1: Here's a weird thing I remember of Tasmania. There are

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Speaker 1: these massive bumblebees there.

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Speaker 2: Ye remember that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like proper bumblebees, not bees, but bumblebees.

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Speaker 2: When you said that something.

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Speaker 3: I remember about Tasmania. I thought you were going to

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Speaker 3: say like oysters or the scenery or the wine. No,

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Speaker 1: So, so you're loving life.

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Speaker 2: You're in Tasi, you're kind of building yourself up.

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Speaker 1: And might I say I may have done a bit

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Speaker 1: of Google stalking and youtubing. You are absolutely made for television.

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Speaker 1: You can just out you love it, Matt. My boyfriend

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Speaker 2: Oh? Thank you, and you're a real joy to watch.

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Speaker 1: Where was it a call?

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Speaker 3: I was sitting at work and I got a call

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Speaker 2: And obviously knew I was single, which is a bit sad.

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Speaker 3: So someone someone put my name forward and they called

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Speaker 3: And then at the same time as that, my mum

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Speaker 3: And I'm a big believer, you know this about me,

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Speaker 3: If something pops into your head all your life, it's

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Speaker 3: my past relationships had failed because I'd moved into state

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Speaker 1: So you brought up your mum, which I wasn't planning

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Speaker 1: it just I got this vibe, like you guys are besties.

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Speaker 3: I think it sounds like such a cliche, especially to

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Speaker 1: You can see it, and you could see, you could

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, my heart's about to explode.

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Speaker 1: I'm so lucky, and you know, on cloud nine in

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Speaker 1: like I can only imagine. And I think, I guess,

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Speaker 1: I guess what I want to know with you is

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Speaker 1: like fuck, Like you're very open and vulnerable, like that's

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I did, to be honest, that's

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Speaker 2: I don't think that I did do very well with that.

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Speaker 3: So full context for those who don't know, Mum eventually

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Speaker 3: passed away twenty four hours after the finale of Bachelorette

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Speaker 3: That's how it happened for me, But I'd had a

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Speaker 3: Had had a really shocking breakup that kind of ruined

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Speaker 2: That will probably get too later, but.

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Speaker 3: It was almost I felt like, oh, I've had too

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Speaker 3: wasn't you know a lot of people who suffer cancer

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Speaker 3: and then inevitably pass away from it have a long battle.

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Speaker 3: Mum only had six months.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because didn't you I've heard you say pancreatic cancer

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Speaker 1: like the like kind of success or it's like nine

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Speaker 1: percent or something. Survival rate is nine percent versus breast cancer,

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Speaker 2: Like ninety three.

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Speaker 3: you remain quite hopeful, of course, and growing up in

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Speaker 2: That would have been for you.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I really hope that you don't blame yourself

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it's so hard to not beat myself

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Speaker 2: I don't think she would have had it any other way,

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Speaker 3: Positive and encouraging of me doing that for many reasons,

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Speaker 3: So, and she had that as well. You know, she

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Speaker 2: Then she passed away that night. So yeah, I really.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, they're beautiful people, such difficult work and

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Speaker 1: So that's then completely understand and I think know that

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Speaker 2: We want to be loved.

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Speaker 1: And your mum got to see you find that that's

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Speaker 2: Like, do I like, is their tongue? Is it like

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Speaker 2: Can you redo that? No? No?

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Speaker 3: No, God no, because that would be so it would

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Speaker 2: As I even feel. I'm like balking at you saying that.

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Speaker 2: They are from a bit of a distance.

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Speaker 3: They're not right up there, but you know they're there

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Speaker 3: once it starts, it starts, You've got your red carpet night.

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Speaker 3: So you were one day of kind of their post sorry,

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Speaker 3: the cocktail party. Then the next day was first or

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Speaker 3: slip in a frock too. Did you have a little slip?

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Speaker 3: I really hoped that up the three as people would

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Speaker 2: I went down, Well.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't a little slip in a frog. It was

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Speaker 3: be the worst time to embarrass yourself. It was the

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Speaker 3: very first night all the boys had arrived, had met

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Speaker 3: Osha comes out and does his big spiel about how

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Speaker 2: And she's this, she's that, and she's.

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Speaker 3: Great, and welcome your new bachelor Rete Georgia. Everyone stands up,

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Speaker 3: they're all cheering, clapping, whooping. I walk out, do this

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Speaker 3: wanky little like curtsy and fucking fall down the stairs

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Speaker 2: It's so okay.

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Speaker 1: So I hope you don't mind me labeling you as this,

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Speaker 1: but it is so perfect because I feel like you're

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Speaker 2: And I try so hard not to be.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm I'm, I'm. I call myself a gooba.

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Speaker 1: Like I totally and I and I think I remember

441
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: you and I did a speaking gig together and we're

442
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: sitting next to each other and you're like the moment

443
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: I saw.

444
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 2: Lead with a donkey keeping a donkey.

445
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I feel like two dogs, kind of like

446
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: two dogs.

447
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: Who really try hard to pretend to be cool on

448
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: one night. So yeah, he For those who don't know,

449
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 3: I didn't watch it, he didn't arrive in a limo.

450
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: He walked up the red carpet with a donkey.

451
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 3: Now what wasn't shown on camera but actually happened is

452
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: he couldn't get the donkey to come.

453
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: Up the stairs to me.

454
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 3: So and now producers are kind of yelling at both

455
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: of us like you don't kind of talk yet, you

456
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 3: need to be on camera together, Like wait till he

457
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 3: gets up at the top of the stairs.

458
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 2: So I'm there.

459
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 3: So it wasn't an awkward silence for ages of him

460
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 3: standing at the bottom of the stairs trying to get

461
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 3: this donkey up. I start making ass jokes because he

462
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 3: had the donkeys. I was like, oh, this is a disaster.

463
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 3: You're making a bit of an ass of yourself and

464
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 3: like all these ass jokes and he's staring at me,

465
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, this guy hates me. Anyway,

466
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 3: he finally just like let the donkey go and walked

467
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 3: up the stairs.

468
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 2: And I said, okay.

469
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 3: So you know, he introduced himself and Leam from Melbourne, Malabah,

470
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: and I was like, can I ask about the donkey?

471
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: And he did this big spiel about how he wanted

472
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 3: to make first impression. You only get one chance, and

473
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: really there was only thing he wanted, one thing he

474
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: wanted to know does my ass look big in this?

475
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, did you come

476
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: here to make a pun?

477
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: And he's like yeah, and you just stole all my material.

478
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Okay, so's this moment. I was like,

479
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: I think I love you?

480
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: Did you would you say, like from like then and

481
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: early on? When you're like, yeah, pretty sure, it's Lee.

482
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: He was always my favorite.

483
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: And I think that probably sounds oh, look, I've spattle

484
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: over the table when I was laughing.

485
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: I also.

486
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: I it sounds like I'm kind of saying that in

487
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: hindsight he was always my favorite. But I know that

488
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 3: he was because one of the girls that worked on

489
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: the show, so she wasn't a producer, but she was

490
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 3: what they call my minder, which sounds horrible, but so

491
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: just the kind of someone who lived with me in

492
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: the house and you know, made sure I was okay

493
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: and drove me everywhere. She would, just as a little

494
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 3: test for myself, ask me every so often, if you

495
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 3: had to pick your top two right now, who would

496
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 3: it be? And she'd ask me at random times when

497
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have otherwise thought about it.

498
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: And Lee was the only one that was always in

499
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: that final two.

500
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 3: So that's why I know, looking back from night one, well, yeah,

501
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: he was actually my favorite the whole way along. But

502
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: that said, I didn't write I didn't write off the

503
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: whole show. I really really believed in it. I believe

504
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: so wholeheartedly in this show. Now when I did it,

505
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 3: Sam Frost and Blake Garvey were the only couple that

506
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 3: weren't together, So every other couple who had done the

507
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: show was still together at that point.

508
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: So I was like, well, this works. I just wholeheartedly

509
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: believed in it. It works.

510
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,239
Speaker 3: I will meet my soulmate this way. And so I

511
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: didn't want to write everyone else off. I thought, no,

512
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: I'm in this. I'm going to make this what it's

513
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: meant to be, give it my old do what it's

514
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 3: meant to do, go on dates with people, explore different opportunities,

515
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: because if this person is the person that I end

516
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: up with, I want to know that I've.

517
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: Kind of explored all my options.

518
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 3: Also, just quietly, if I end up with this guy,

519
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: these are going to be my last random first passions I'm.

520
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: Ever going to have. So I'm going to make the

521
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: most of that too good way of looking at And

522
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought of that. I have a really

523
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: weird health nerd question.

524
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: In every scene there is like a cheese platter or champagne.

525
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: How one do you have it all? And two like

526
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: how do you stay healthy?

527
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: Definitely don't have it all because you're always talking. Yeah,

528
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: so I think the guys on Bachelorette the guys and

529
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: then on the Bachelor, the girls often get really drunk

530
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: at the cocktail parties because they're sitting around waiting for

531
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 3: that fifteen minute chat with you, whereas as that main

532
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: person and you were always talking. I had a warm

533
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 3: glass of champagne in my hand the whole time. Oh really, Yeah,

534
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: because it's rude when you're always talking to someone one

535
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: on one. So while they're talking to you looking at you,

536
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: it's rude to take a swite. But then otherwise you're

537
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: talking to them, so you never really do you wouldn't

538
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: want to be filming like feeling really like rusty the

539
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: next day.

540
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: Either that's true.

541
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: I actually did get accidentally tipsy at one cocktail party,

542
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 3: but that was because so it was one that I

543
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 3: knew it was down to the final six, and it

544
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 3: was the six people who I had gone on single

545
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: dates with. So I'd formed some sort of connection with

546
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: all six of these guys, and I knew that I

547
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 3: had to send one of them home. So I was

548
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: a bit kind of stressed and sad and felt weird

549
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: about that. Up to that point, it had kind of

550
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: been people that I hadn't really made solid connection, correct, Okay,

551
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: so I knew it was going to be harder ones.

552
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: So when I was getting my hair and makeup done

553
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: before the cocktail party, my producer was like, stuff, let's

554
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: have a few drinks. Let's kind of take the edge off.

555
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 3: So I had probably more drinks than I should have.

556
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: And then I got to the cocktail party and Lee

557
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: had organized this little surprise thing and took me off

558
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 3: to the side, and he'd made this tray of cocktails

559
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: and drinks from all his favorite places he's been around

560
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: the world, and his whole thing. Well, I know, your

561
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: face while I was saying this is like more it

562
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 3: was really cool. And his whole thing was, you know,

563
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: I want to meet someone that I'm going to travel

564
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 3: the world with.

565
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: Travel is really important to me.

566
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: Now, I want you to pick three of these drinks

567
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you a story about when I had

568
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: them in the place that they're from. So we sat

569
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: there and I had three cocktails in a very short

570
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: space of time.

571
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: Next minute, I.

572
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: Wake up the next day feeling pretty steedy. But it

573
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: was quite funny because watching the episode back, I was like,

574
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 3: oh my god, I look really like I look, but

575
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: I just look emotional.

576
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a bad thing, not a bad thing. It

577
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: looked like I was just super into that chat.

578
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: That brings my next How much of the producers, like say,

579
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: likely had this cocktail idea.

580
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: How much of the producers go.

581
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that we want you to do that or no, no,

582
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: no no, can you do this instead? Like how much

583
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: or even with the do they will say to you like, actually,

584
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: I know you're.

585
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: Not attracted to that guy.

586
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: Can you just keep him a few more weeks because

587
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: he's a bit crazy or whatever?

588
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: It is his good content. YEP.

589
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: So a few different facets in there. The first one

590
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: you asked was will they say no, can you do

591
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 3: this instead? They'll never do that, Okay, they never suggest

592
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: anything to anyone. For I had a lot of like

593
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 3: surprises on my season, which if you haven't watched it,

594
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: go back and watch it. Not for me, for the guys.

595
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 3: They were freaking cool. They were so cool. They did

596
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: lots of little surprises. Like the best thing ever I

597
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: think still in my whole life is that they all

598
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: wrote a song and surprised me with this site, which

599
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 3: is the freaking coolest thing's ever happened in my life.

600
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: But they did things like that.

601
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: Lead it is cocktail thing to the boys made this

602
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: epic dessert and presented it to me like they did

603
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: cool little things. Now, all of that they came up

604
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: with themselves and had to source everything themselves. Had to

605
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: make all the cocktails. They had to you know, get

606
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: all the different glasses. He had to get the donkey,

607
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: like every even those little gimmicks and stuff that people

608
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: do on the red carpet.

609
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: They have to source every license.

610
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's all about I mean, if producers do that,

611
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: say the producers had said, she really loves dad jokes

612
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: can you think of some kind of pun or dad

613
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: joke fabricator and then I go, I love that. I

614
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: really like this guy and then he never produces that again.

615
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's got they do still. Of course they

616
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: want an interesting TV show. Of course they want drama,

617
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: they want heartbreak, but they want love as well.

618
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: They want they want to find someone.

619
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 3: Then the second part of that question is would they

620
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: ever ask you to keep someone around?

621
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: And yes, I mean I.

622
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: Don't think I'm breaking any big secrets in saying that.

623
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: You can see that, yeah, if you are sometimes, but

624
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: that said, it's very much only in the early days. Yes,

625
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: So I had eighteen guys, as I said in the end,

626
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: there are only six that I really made connections with,

627
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: but even probably from the first night, and you might

628
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: there might be eight or nine where you go, yeah,

629
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: I think I'm probably interested in getting to know you,

630
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: and they're just I mean, this is just human nature.

631
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: There are others that you go, I've got no interest

632
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: in you, and I'm never going to there's nothing here

633
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: pada dating.

634
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't kick them all out in one goal.

635
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 3: So you know there's going to be a few weeks

636
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: of people hanging around that you never want to take

637
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: on a date.

638
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: You're never going to take on a date.

639
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: So they might say things like there was this one

640
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: absolute douchebag in my season who I wanted to kick

641
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: out the first night to make a bit of a

642
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: point to be like, no, don't.

643
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: Be a dig you can go home.

644
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: And they said to me, look, we know we're never

645
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: going to make you take him on a single day

646
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: where you know that, but he's giving great stuff, he's

647
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: good with the other guys, he's got good banter. We

648
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: would like to have him around for another week or

649
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: two if that's okay with you. And I was like, yep,

650
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: that's cool because I know, I mean, I'll work into well.

651
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: I understand I wanted. I wanted them to have a

652
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 3: good show as well, totally as long as I was

653
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: getting what I wanted out of it, then.

654
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: I understand that too. And also as a viewer, like

655
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: I've got admit I love I call them a dingo like,

656
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: I love seeing the dickeads.

657
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: I love.

658
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, how how how any reality show like?

659
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: And the reason why I asked the questions about the

660
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: producer's role is because I got really sucked into this

661
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: TV show called Unreal, which is like a drama show

662
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Speaker 1: bass and like a bachelor or a bachelorette is kind

663
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Speaker 1: of like that's kind of the plot, but you're actually

664
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Speaker 1: living the lives and watching through the lives of the producers,

665
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: and it's all very scandalous and it's very heightened and

666
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: not real at all.

667
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Speaker 2: But that's why I was asking those I.

668
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Speaker 3: Think it actually is a bit more real of the

669
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Speaker 3: American seasons, okay, but not so much of the Istralia,

670
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: And I think the Australian one is probably getting a

671
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: bit more dramatic and scandalous as it goes on, but certainly,

672
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Speaker 3: like in my day.

673
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Speaker 2: It was, it was not so bad.

674
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Speaker 1: So I thank you so much.

675
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Speaker 2: You're sharing so much and I'm freaking excited.

676
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: So the next thing I want to know is like

677
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: as soon as I Google you, it comes up engagement,

678
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: like engagement rumors.

679
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: Like how do you go with like this weird kind.

680
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: Of like pressure from people you don't know that expect

681
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: something of you, like how do you go?

682
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: It's funny is a lot.

683
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: Of people ask me that, assuming I'm going to have

684
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: a negative view of it, But I actually think.

685
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: It's really nice. It's that they care.

686
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: People care, And how wonderful is that the people actually

687
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: are so invested in my relationship and wanting us to

688
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: be happy that they get a bit pissed off that

689
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: we're not engaged to Like, it's a weird response, but

690
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: it's actually for a really nice reason.

691
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Speaker 2: I like that.

692
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Speaker 1: I like because also people have got brought up in

693
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: different ways. So people that have grown up with you know,

694
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: parents were married at twenty one or something like that,

695
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: you can understand where they come from.

696
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: That's exactly it.

697
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: So at least thirty eight and I'm thirty, so we're like,

698
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: you know, both, especially him at the auge where it's like,

699
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: settle the fuck down, but we are. We're really happy

700
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: with where we're at. I don't mind if we're not

701
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: planning a wedding yet. We know that we're in a

702
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: long term relationship that we want to be together forever.

703
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: We're just you know, doing it in our own time.

704
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: Also, remembering back to what we were talking about about

705
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: how our relationship started with I mean our really our

706
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: relationships started on that day of the finale airing, because

707
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: it's the first time we're allowed to leave the house together.

708
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: And then my mum died twenty four hours later, and

709
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: now both of those things. Starting a relationship in a

710
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: really strange public way with everyone watching you and having

711
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: to do things like post on social media. If we didn't,

712
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: people would think we'd broken up if we weren't seen

713
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: together every two DAPs. And then this almighty grief on

714
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: top of us, which could and has and does break

715
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: relationships all the time. We had both of those things

716
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: happen at once, So I don't shy away from saying

717
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: the first year of our relationship was pretty fucked, of course, so.

718
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: We never got a honeymoon period at all.

719
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: We went straight from being able to be together to

720
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: the depths of great serious serious so it's almost like

721
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: we're having our honeymoon period now. We moved in together

722
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: a year ago, and it was like we were teenagers,

723
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: like allowed to be together.

724
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: And like, oh my god, there's nothing negative happening. This

725
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: is all wonderful and fun. So yeah, we're just we're

726
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: taking our time. If we'd rushed things anymore, it wouldn't

727
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: have worked.

728
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the way I see it, just from watching

729
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: on Insta, you like two little amigos together. You know,

730
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: you've just you share like it just feels like two

731
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: little goopers.

732
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it feels. That's exactly it. We're two

733
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: little groopers. Actually, yeah, that's good. That's just how it

734
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: comes across.

735
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Speaker 1: One more thing that came up, and I was like,

736
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: when I was researching, I was like, fuck you kidding me?

737
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: Fat shaming? And I read like you're you're in your

738
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: bikini on the beach.

739
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: And then there was a photo of you on the

740
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: front of a magazine and they'd found an old quote

741
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: and put that towards it, and like, this is I've

742
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: written a diet book about losing weight, and you can

743
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: literally google Lullaberry fat like that is one of the

744
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: things you get.

745
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: And like, so when I read this about you and.

746
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: Like, like I said, we did pilates together a few

747
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: weeks ago. You to me fit healthy, small girl, and

748
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: to be like fat shame, I'm just like for who,

749
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: Like who are you too fat for?

750
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: Because to me, you.

751
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: Are a below average so like you'd be a size

752
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: eight ten. I read the article you wrote and I'm like, fuck,

753
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: can you just like unpack a bit of that for me?

754
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I've always been a size eight ten. I've

755
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: never been smaller than an age. That's just my body

756
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: and my shape, and I am fish, I work out,

757
00:35:54,360 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 3: I eat well. I'm a fit, healthy person. But aparently

758
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 3: I'm not thin enough for TV. According to a lot

759
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: of people and tabloid magazines and websites. That photo that

760
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: you're referring to was, Yeah, I was photographed on a beach.

761
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: I didn't know I was being photographed.

762
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: It was after a big pasta lunch and my hair

763
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: was wet and curly, and I looked horrendous, Like I

764
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: looked terrible, And they put that photo on the front

765
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: page of a magazine. But it was like a batchy

766
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: batchy bikini bots, and every other photo was girls in

767
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 3: a photo shoot in their bikini so in a studio

768
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: looking how you know, looking phenomenal. Yeah, I was next

769
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: to freaking Sophie Monk, for Christ's sake, who's like the

770
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: hottest woman in the world, and all these girls who'd

771
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: been on the Bachelor, and they were all these posed,

772
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 3: beautiful shots and then I'm there with my white gut

773
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: hanging out.

774
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: Not no, I'm being photographed.

775
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: Now. The worst part of it was the little quote

776
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: that they put next to it. Was a quote that

777
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: I had given I'd done an interview with this magazine

778
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: during Bachelor rash and they'd asked about, you know, what

779
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: do you think about, you know, body shaming or rah,

780
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: and I said, look, I don't care. I know I'm

781
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: not a supermodel, but I'm happy with how I look

782
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: and I think I look great, so I don't care.

783
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

784
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: Now, they used this quote next to the photo of

785
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: me looking fat, and it said, you know, George's of

786
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: her body. Georgia says, I love how I look and

787
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: I don't care how anyone else thinks. End quote, and

788
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: then they've written go girl, ah oh, and that was

789
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: the word that was Honestly, that was the worst part

790
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: of it for me because I was like, how dare

791
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: you insinuate that I shouldn't be happy with how I look.

792
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: It made it sound like one of those you know,

793
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 3: an overweight person being like, fuck the haters, I don't care.

794
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm not overweight. Aly, shit, I'm a size age like

795
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: you are, so the average a twelve.

796
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you are aol human beings.

797
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: And I know I knew going into the Bachelorette that

798
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: this would be a thing. I know from watching the show.

799
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: Everyone's in their bikinis, the whole time. I know that

800
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 3: I don't look good in a bikini. That that's fine.

801
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to disagree with you on that one.

802
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: I see me in a bikini, though, don't and don't

803
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 3: look up the photo really bad. But that's like, it's fine.

804
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: I got parts of my body that I like. My

805
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: tummy is not one of them. That's fine, that's just

806
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 3: what I had. That's my thing.

807
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: I'm sad, so I'm the same. I don't love my

808
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: tummy either.

809
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: But then I think also there does become a sense

810
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: where like dysmorphia can come in when you've got the

811
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: pressure of the media, like so many millions, I'll say,

812
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: women would kill for your body.

813
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to completely reword what I said. I

814
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: don't look good in a bikini compared to everyone.

815
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: I says people would compare to exactly.

816
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: But that's the thing that's I love social media for

817
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 3: so many reasons, but I hate it for so many

818
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: reasons too. And I am a big believer in not

819
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 3: following people that aren't going to make you feel good.

820
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to wake up and scroll through my

821
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 3: account and feel bad about myself. So there are people

822
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: that I am personally friends with who I don't follow

823
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: on Instagram because I'm looking at their modeling photos in

824
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: bikinis or active where looking ridiculous the whole time Like that,

825
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: that makes me feel bad about myself. So I love you,

826
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: I will support you, and I will catch up with

827
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: you for a coffee. But I don't want to see

828
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: your beautiful photos.

829
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: But I think also, and you've hit the nail on

830
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: the head here or you've definitely brought something up. People

831
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: think they're real photos, and often they're edited.

832
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: I mean, well, how about that.

833
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: I even said they're modeling photos. Yeah, say they're photos

834
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: in their backyard.

835
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's it.

836
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: And I think that's why social media perceives like portrays

837
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: one thing that's often not real. And yeah, and I

838
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: think that that's like you can feel to something. You

839
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: can totally use face tune. We all know how to

840
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: use it, you know, like there are all these apps

841
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: to make ourselves look completely different. And I think, yeah,

842
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: I think social media is like this amazing but fucked

843
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: double edged sort it is.

844
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: And I think that.

845
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: It's probably why it's important for someone like me to

846
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: be talking about it, because, as you said, people will

847
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: look at my Instagram and probably think that about me

848
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: all stuff her.

849
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: She looks like she goes to all these events. I

850
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: hate her.

851
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: She's got the best life, and I am the one

852
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: sitting here saying.

853
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I hate looking at other people's like that. You know,

854
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: it's all so it's a reception. You're humanizing yourself, and

855
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 2: you're making.

856
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: Us realize that all those insecurities that we have as

857
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: your audience members, you also have of course, And then

858
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: you know a problem, isn't it that everyone else has it?

859
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: Exactly? That's what I mean.

860
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: It's important for someone like me to talk about it

861
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: because if I we're back at the body shaming thing.

862
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: If I'm getting body shamed at my size, how on

863
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: earth is the size sixteen person gonna feel? How is

864
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 3: the size four person gonna feel when they're shamed for

865
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: being too slim?

866
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: Like?

867
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: What?

868
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: No one is? No one's perfect.

869
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: One thing that I learned really early on after writing

870
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: a weight loss book, I was like, shit, I'm either

871
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: going to be too fat for someone and too skinny

872
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: for someone else.

873
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: So like, even the other day I.

874
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: Did juice cleans and I got a lot of like,

875
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: what the are you doing a juice cleans like if

876
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: you got an eating disorder and I'm like, oh my god,

877
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: like so and it's just like and this is the

878
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: whole I think point in this podcast, like March the

879
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: Beaver and drum stop giving a fuck about what other

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Speaker 1: people think.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm put.

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Speaker 1: When I rock up to an event and you're there

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Speaker 1: and I'm like sick, like it's gonna be raal, you know,

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Speaker 1: And and that's probably what I think people love about you.

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Speaker 2: You're the real deal.

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Speaker 1: Now we're almost at time, I guess, like because this

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Speaker 1: is about failure, Like what do you have like any

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Speaker 1: little like nugget that if the people are listening to

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Speaker 1: this and they're like, fuck, like I've just had a

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Speaker 1: shit week, or like I have just looked at instad

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Speaker 1: and there's like fifteen models there that look like they

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Speaker 1: should be on Victoria's Secret and I look nothing like that.

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Speaker 1: Or I've had a shitty bumble date whatever, you know,

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Speaker 1: like what you know? Because you've obviously been through the

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Speaker 1: shit and you're still on the other side and you're

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Speaker 1: always smiling, and like what would be You're like, what's

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Speaker 1: your how do you catch yourself when you're feeling shit?

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Speaker 3: I think and a lot of people are probably going

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Speaker 3: to disagree with me on this, but bear with me.

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Speaker 3: I think let yourself feel shit when you're feeling shit.

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Speaker 3: I think this whole. I adore the wellness world. I

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Speaker 3: love how much the entire world is moving to practice

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Speaker 3: gratitude and consider health before anything else. And you know,

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Speaker 3: consider the importance of being positive. I love that, but

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Speaker 3: I think with that there it can be bit toxic.

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Speaker 2: Two.

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Speaker 3: I think toxic positivity is a real thing of when

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Speaker 3: someone goes through something for people around them to go

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Speaker 3: there's always.

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Speaker 2: A silver lining.

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Speaker 3: Everything happens for a reason, you know, get up in

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Speaker 3: the morning, wake and slay. They're great slogans for when

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Speaker 3: you're feeling good, but when you're feeling shit, when something

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Speaker 3: really bad's happen, they don't actually help.

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Speaker 2: They will help somewhere down the line.

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Speaker 3: But if you, as you say, if you've been shamed,

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Speaker 3: if you've looked at someone you feel shit about yourself,

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Speaker 3: if you've had a death in the family, if you've

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Speaker 3: had a horrid breakup, if you've been fined from a job,

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Speaker 3: you're allowed to feel shit, but just do it for

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Speaker 3: a little while.

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Speaker 1: Totally, and I think you've hit the now on the

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Speaker 1: head like most people ignore the uncomfortable stuff, and it's

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Speaker 1: all about like sit in it, sit in the shit exactly,

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Speaker 1: learn from it, grow from it.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Whether it's sitting down for twenty minutes to meditate on

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Speaker 3: that and feel crap for that, whether it's half a day,

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Speaker 3: whether it's a week, as long as you're exactly that's

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Speaker 3: going to say, as long as you're not getting down

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Speaker 3: in it forever, because that's of course a huge negative.

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Speaker 3: That's not what I'm trying to say at all. But

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Speaker 3: let yourself feel the feelings because you're not actually going

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Speaker 3: to have the highs unless you have the lows as well.

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Speaker 2: Totally.

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Speaker 3: You can't coast and be that's exactly such a cliche,

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Speaker 3: but it's so right.

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Speaker 2: The highs are high because the lows are low.

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Speaker 3: If you've had a crap dave, any of those bad

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Speaker 3: things have happened, let yourself feel that, acknowledge those feelings,

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Speaker 3: feel them, and then push them away.

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Speaker 2: Then go and have you know, a.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful meal full of serotonin, and hold your crystals and

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Speaker 3: say that the sun.

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Speaker 2: Will come up tomorrow. Bust out in any.

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Speaker 3: Song if you want to, only after you've let yourself

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Speaker 3: have the hard knock loss.

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Speaker 2: We didn't even get to touch on your love of music.

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Speaker 2: I will always bring it up. Don't worry when you

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Speaker 2: least expect.

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Speaker 1: You are such a joy and I cannot thank you

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Speaker 1: enough for doing this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Total honor to have you on here, and I should

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Speaker 2: don't like to do pilates with you? Yes, Steven Studio

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Speaker 2: Stick