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Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud or

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Speaker 1: the Order KERNI Whoaltbury and a waddery woman. And before

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Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I

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Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land

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Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country,

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Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming

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Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing

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Speaker 1: and the storytelling of you to make a difference for

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Speaker 1: today and lasting impact for tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money.

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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the moneydcast. The belief's

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Speaker 4: financial freedom doesn't always wear a blazer and have a

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Speaker 4: corner office. Today we're diving into money power and the

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Speaker 4: kind of jobs that make people uncomfortable and what it

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Speaker 4: actually looks like to run a seriously profitable business that

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Speaker 4: challenges everything we've been taught about what success should look like.

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Speaker 4: I'm Victoria Devine and today we are talking about how

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Speaker 4: women are building wealth in ways that the world doesn't

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Speaker 4: always respect but should. And to have that discussion, I

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Speaker 4: have a very special guest with me. She's one of

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Speaker 4: the most financially strategic women I've spoken to, and she's

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Speaker 4: done it in an industry most people don't even know

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Speaker 4: how to talk about. You might know her as blue

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Speaker 4: Eyed Kayla Jade. She's a full service worker OnlyFans creator

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Speaker 4: and viral TikTok star who's built a business that's part content,

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Speaker 4: part client work, part investment strategy, and one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Percent on her own terms.

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Speaker 4: She has racked up millions of us, made tens of

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Speaker 4: thousands in a single day, and built more wealth and

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Speaker 4: stronger boundaries than most people twice her age. And today

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Speaker 4: she's joining me on the show.

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Speaker 2: And she's told us she's not going to hold back. Hey,

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Speaker 2: welcome to this show.

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Speaker 5: That was an introduction.

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Speaker 4: We do try a lot, like I don't want to

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Speaker 4: like read the bio that Google gives me, like thank you,

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Speaker 4: I could never but welcome to the show. I'm so

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Speaker 4: excited And I just feel like this is one Like

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Speaker 4: I love your content too, Like talking about money is

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Speaker 4: so important, especially around like women and wealth creation. Like

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five, I feel like women have the

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Speaker 4: opportunity to take the power back absolutely and I love

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Speaker 4: making men feel uncomfortable about that. We always get on

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Speaker 4: our show, our money diarists to rate their money habits

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Speaker 4: to our audience. Okay, and I was keen to know

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Speaker 4: if you would one rate yourself. So before we get

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Speaker 4: into it, if I asked you to give your money

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Speaker 4: habits a grade from A through to F, what grade

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Speaker 4: A being good, F being you.

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Speaker 2: Feel like you dropout?

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Speaker 5: I would probably give myself a C.

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Speaker 4: I want to know more about that, because, I mean,

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Speaker 4: you've been very open about how you earn money and

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Speaker 2: You are at it. So I'm like, hold on, how

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess when I first started in the industry,

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Speaker 2: I mean, make hay while the sun's shining.

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Speaker 5: It was like, I mean, I came from a very

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Speaker 5: like humble beginning. Like where I grew up, there wasn't

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Speaker 5: And so when I started on only fans the money

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was in like West Hollywood, and like,

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Speaker 5: It was also like I'm pretty sure it was like

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Speaker 5: And I feel like that was the turning point where

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Speaker 5: Like yes, I knew that, Like I was going over

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Speaker 2: Grand on that wasn't worth it.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't worth it. It didn't look anything like the photos.

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Speaker 5: That is, I could like see the layer of grime

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Speaker 5: But yeah, so yeah, the starter was like I was

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Speaker 5: there online. Let's try and make as much as I

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Speaker 4: I love this, and we'll get into that because obviously

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Speaker 5: Man and Manet.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like a lot of people probably know

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Speaker 2: But I'm super curious, who were you before all of

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Speaker 4: What was life like before you started only fans and

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Speaker 4: became Loui Kayla Ja.

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Speaker 5: Well, so I grew up in New Zealand, a small

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Speaker 5: I was about nineteen. I started personal training. I was

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so I just like I put it up.

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Speaker 2: You'll see how good I I am at it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think it just it was something that

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Speaker 4: I love seeing that, Like I love that women have

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Speaker 4: taken back. Yeah power in porn literally to go. Actually,

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Speaker 4: if you guys want this, pay totally, and you know what,

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Speaker 4: pay me well, because otherwise I'm not going to do it.

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Speaker 5: You're like you need me, Like I'm sorry, but like.

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Speaker 4: And if you don't want to pay me, that's fine,

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Speaker 4: go away. But like I think that it's changing the

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Speaker 4: It's not for everybody, and I don't course community going

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Speaker 4: we can earn heaps of money.

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Speaker 4: But I also like that we're having open, honest conversations,

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Speaker 4: I've said before, that's just not for me, and that

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Speaker 5: Like I literally tell everyone that I meet, don't get

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Speaker 2: Like, Nope, don't do it. That's my story.

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Speaker 5: Like there's too many downsides. Yeah, And I feel like

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Speaker 5: they see like there's glamorous industry. They see all this money,

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: So when you got into only fans, you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it a crap. How did that go?

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Speaker 4: Like the first few weeks of you doing it, were

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Speaker 4: you just posting content online because you could post stuff

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Speaker 4: to OnlyFans, but they don't push it for you.

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Speaker 2: You've got to do all of your own marketing. You've

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Speaker 2: got to do all your in promotion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all of our digital media. I randomly started on Reddit,

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Speaker 5: Like I was just posting on Reddit forums being like I.

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Speaker 2: Like they started on Reddit. So you're like a little

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I was in these like kink groups, and

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Speaker 5: I feel like I got a lot of like interesting

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Speaker 5: customers through Reddit yeah good yeah, which like some have

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Speaker 4: But also like, okay, that's a very good business strategy.

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Speaker 5: Well, like I wasn't, Like I was sort of like

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Speaker 5: Completely exact same, like oversaturated. And then everyone in the

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Speaker 4: And what's pushing and what's trending and how many people

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Speaker 2: That's often where most of the money comes from.

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Speaker 5: The platform and you just have to get the eyes

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Speaker 5: were you. I haven't recorded those because I don't want

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Speaker 2: But that's okay, we've all got to be cringey.

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Speaker 5: Oh hey, it was getting them in, Like it was

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Speaker 5: just you know what, I didn't even judge yourself. I

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Speaker 4: So when you started only fans, obviously there was a

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Speaker 4: lot of draw cards. You said, I was interested in

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Speaker 4: I wanted to make money and I did. Were you

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Speaker 5: I got a really good accountant, a financial advisor, and

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Speaker 5: to be like, Okay, I can't spend this amount of

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed.

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Speaker 4: So you had a financial advisor and accountant.

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Speaker 5: Accountant first, and then once you get some cash, you

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Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: And I think that it's so funny because people aren't

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Speaker 4: talking like, oh, they've got like two or three hundred

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Speaker 4: for life, Like she was set for life. And I

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Speaker 5: Doesn't work or because not like I'm making minim wage,

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Speaker 5: Like as long as you're like, this is what I

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Speaker 5: stress to girls, like please save your money, yeah, because

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Speaker 5: and if you can't make money, then like what are

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Speaker 5: when you go into the sex industry, it's harder to

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Speaker 5: get other job prespects like you've got, like it stays

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Speaker 4: I mean you could, I would hire you, like if

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Speaker 5: Queen, very like, Yeah. I remember a friends who like

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Speaker 5: are just so like so mediate, the.

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Speaker 2: Middle aged white men making decisions.

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Speaker 5: We've come so far in the last like one hundred

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Speaker 2: Which is really disappointing.

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Speaker 4: And why these conversations are so important to have around

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Speaker 4: I just always find it so funny that those industries

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Speaker 4: the content. It's always under present sir, like you're the

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Speaker 4: reason why she did it, Like she took advantage of

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Speaker 5: I've seen everyone in the sex space. I've seen politicians.

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Speaker 5: I've seen celebrities literally.

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Speaker 2: Every Oh you've seen politicians. That's true. One, that's an

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Speaker 4: We won't continue that conversation, no, but like you know what,

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Speaker 4: keep perpetuating that. I am trying to also get them

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know there's been a lot of stuff going

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Speaker 5: on with that lately, like with politicians going on podcasts

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Speaker 5: and yeah, using a bit of drama.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm here for it.

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Speaker 4: Though, I think, like obviously complete tangent, but like I

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Speaker 2: It's so dramatic. Me too, Like it's like watching the

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Speaker 2: Real Housewives.

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Speaker 5: I love watching American like Australian politics. I'm like not

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Speaker 4: But like American politics, honestly, train wreck love watching that.

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Speaker 2: Make it a reality TV show.

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Speaker 5: Well pretty much is. It's just like some of the stuff.

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Speaker 5: Ly exactly please stop.

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Speaker 2: But also can I watch anyway, I want to know.

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Speaker 4: More about you and more about your finance life. Right,

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Speaker 4: So it sounds like you were pretty set up, which

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Speaker 4: we love to see. Yeah, what's your personal cash flow system?

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Speaker 4: Like are you budgeting? Are you organizing your cash into buckets?

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Speaker 2: Like how are you managing that? And do you have

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Speaker 2: an emergency fund? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely do. Like I just try and save

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Speaker 5: make it out like I'm frugal in a way, but

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Speaker 5: is going into like emergency fund savings. Everything you're investing, Yes,

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Speaker 5: well I've invested in property, so I love that. I

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Speaker 2: But I can help.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, like maybe I can learn.

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Speaker 2: I can help you.

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Speaker 4: It's so easy, like you and I can set you up,

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Speaker 4: like obviously you've got a financial advisor, but we can

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Speaker 4: can you scale it a bit more because I'm finally

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Speaker 4: comfy with it, Like yes, because it's so imp Like,

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Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, I'm going to go off on

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Speaker 4: a tangent. Oh, property is fantastic, and I mean I

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Speaker 5: Like incredible love, that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 4: But on the flip side, having a diverse investment portfolio,

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Speaker 4: and I mean you've already probably are, let's be honest,

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Speaker 4: only fans ticks along. But like when that's not there,

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Speaker 4: your share portfolio can literally take over from that. And

441
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Speaker 4: my favorite thing is there's no oh the hot water

442
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Speaker 4: system's broken, there's no chasing up tenants like they're perfect

443
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 4: little tenants making you work in the share market.

444
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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed. Anyway, it's incredible.

445
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Speaker 4: Let's take a really quick break because when we come

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Speaker 4: back I want to talk about your big money goals,

447
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Speaker 4: cash counting, cultural double standards, and the reality of building

448
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Speaker 4: a business that people.

449
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Speaker 5: Love to judge.

450
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Speaker 2: You don't want to miss it.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, we are back and before the break

452
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Speaker 4: we were talking about Kayla's day to day money habits.

453
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Speaker 4: But I'm going to zoom out a little bit, because

454
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Speaker 4: when you're building something that is this bold, it's not

455
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Speaker 4: just about the weekly budget. It's actually about the big picture,

456
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Speaker 4: the long game, and what financial freedom really looks like

457
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Speaker 4: when you are calling the shots. So, Kayler, what are

458
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Speaker 4: your big money goals right now? Like, what are you

459
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Speaker 4: currently working towards.

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Speaker 2: Is there a big dream?

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Speaker 5: Yes, well, investing in enough property that it just makes

462
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Speaker 5: passive income for when like I retire, so that can

463
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Speaker 5: keep ticking along and I don't have to make content

464
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Speaker 5: anymore because I definitely don't want to be like fifty

465
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Speaker 5: years old, still making OnlyFans content and being a sex worker.

466
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Speaker 3: Yep.

467
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Speaker 2: Love.

468
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Speaker 4: And then as a part of that, is there like

469
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Speaker 4: a dream life You're like, okay, cool, Like one day

470
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Speaker 4: I want to retire and have a property in the mountains.

471
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Speaker 5: I definitely want to have a lot of lands and

472
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Speaker 5: have animals, have enough space for my cats because right

473
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Speaker 5: now my house is like it's nice, like it's like

474
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Speaker 5: on the water and you know, got to pull and stuff,

475
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Speaker 5: but like it's very like like small, and like I

476
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 5: just want to expand and like get a big property.

477
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Speaker 4: And just like what type of pets are we talking?

478
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Speaker 4: Because I'm an animal person. My dog is in the studio,

479
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Speaker 4: as you know every single time I record. She's not

480
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Speaker 4: a little sidekick. I have two cats. So if I

481
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Speaker 4: was allowed and my husband let me, my entire house

482
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Speaker 4: would become a zoo.

483
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Speaker 2: But that is apparently not allowed. What would you do?

484
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Speaker 5: Well, I've got three cats, and I'm constantly looking for cats,

485
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 5: Like it's a problem. It's becoming like.

486
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Speaker 2: Not a problem. If you're looking after them, you're giving them.

487
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 5: Are absolutely my little babies, Like they've got so much personality,

488
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Speaker 5: Like I love them so much. But if I was

489
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Speaker 5: on a property, I'd definitely get like chickens. I would

490
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Speaker 5: love to have some chickens.

491
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Speaker 4: You did not see the internet more cats.

492
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Speaker 5: I love dogs as well.

493
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Speaker 2: But you need a dog that acts like a cat.

494
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Speaker 2: I reckon, Yeah, like this is right, yeah, yeah, Like she.

495
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 4: Doesn't have a dog bed because she just sleeps on

496
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Speaker 4: the couch. Back to money, what made you choose property

497
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Speaker 4: as the asset class that you ended up going all

498
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Speaker 4: in on. Like you said before, I am not only

499
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Speaker 4: in the share market. I want a property portfolio. That

500
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 4: is going to mean that I don't have to work

501
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Speaker 4: another day in my life.

502
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Speaker 2: But where did you get that comfort in property?

503
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Speaker 5: Yeah? I guess for me, I always thought like that

504
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 5: was the safe option. Like it was always like drilled

505
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Speaker 5: into me to like get a house, to get a property.

506
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Speaker 5: So for me, I was like, yes, this is safe

507
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 5: in a way, Like I'm scared of this dog market,

508
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Speaker 5: Like I'm like, I'm worried that I'm going to make

509
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Speaker 5: some stupid mistake and like.

510
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Speaker 2: That for you, I'm going to fix that. I'm going

511
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Speaker 2: to make you say no, I'm going to fix that,

512
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: Like I'm so sorry.

513
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Speaker 5: But like, yeah, I've always felt like that's like the shining.

514
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Speaker 2: I've got you.

515
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, So it's just like my goals right now

516
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Speaker 5: is just like saving to buy more property.

517
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Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, I love that so much.

518
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: And being really pervy obviously do not give out addresses

519
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 4: or even locations, But do you have a type of

520
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 4: property that you like? Are we buying like apartments, are

521
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 4: we buying like standalones?

522
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 5: Like yes, townhouses like something like I don't want to

523
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 5: you know, apart from the one that I'm living in.

524
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Speaker 5: They're not like crazy expensive like you know, I feel

525
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Speaker 5: like if you buy a mansion life straight up, like

526
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 5: you're not going to be able to buy any more

527
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 5: houses after that. Yeah. So I didn't go silly like

528
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 5: right up front, like I started small and hopefully eventually

529
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Speaker 5: I'll get bigger and bigger and then eventually get my

530
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Speaker 5: mansion in the country.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

532
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Speaker 4: So are you getting And this is just me being

533
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: so pervy? So you just tell me Victoria advice stop that.

534
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Speaker 2: Are you getting advice when you're purchasing property like or

535
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: are you just researching it yourself?

536
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Speaker 5: Or if you're getting advice, yeah, Like I have a

537
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 5: team which pretty much like do everything for me, like

538
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 5: I could not do it by myself.

539
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're tessed.

540
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Speaker 4: I was like, how are you doing this because no, no, no,

541
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Speaker 4: like are we doing it the way that I would

542
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 4: do it?

543
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: Which is that way?

544
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 4: Or It's an interesting conundrum because when you are making

545
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 4: as much money as you make, it is a different

546
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: world when it comes to purchasing property because you know,

547
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 4: it's very different than getting your first home buyer into

548
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 4: their first property.

549
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Speaker 5: Yes, well, it's like any small business. It's much harder

550
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 5: to buy a house as a small business owner, like

551
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 5: you need to obviously have their savings and have that

552
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 5: like you know, two years of being in a business,

553
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 5: like showing that you're able to you know, expand.

554
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and talk to me about being someone who works

555
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: in the sex industry and getting loans. There is this

556
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: massive stigma there is about getting loans as a sex worker.

557
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 4: There is how was your process of getting your loans?

558
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 5: I like didn't have any issues actually, And I was

559
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 5: so scared to like buy my face because of this,

560
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 5: because of the stigma behind it. But it's yeah, it's

561
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 5: basically like any other business. Like as long as you

562
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 5: you pay your taxes and you're getting that regular incoming

563
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 5: or showing you're getting that income and you're not wasting

564
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 5: your money, like, you'll.

565
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Speaker 2: Get a loan one hundred percent.

566
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Speaker 5: I feel like girls are so scared to like go in,

567
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 5: but it's like, no, if you're being smart about it.

568
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 4: Like I've done a lot of loans for a lot

569
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 4: of people working in the sex industry. I think it's

570
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 4: because I have a full female team and like, yeah,

571
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 4: you're just girls girls Like I love that, but I

572
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 4: think it is so interesting the stigma that comes. They

573
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 4: go like, I really want to talk to you about this,

574
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 4: but I just don't know if I'll ever be able

575
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 4: to get into property because I do this, and I

576
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 4: just go hold on, Like, you've got a thriving small business,

577
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 4: A bank is gonna love.

578
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 5: Honestly, they don't. They don't care what you do. They

579
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 5: just want money. They're not going to exactly, they're not

580
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 5: gonna not give up getting money.

581
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 2: Like they do not care.

582
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Speaker 4: And in fact, I think because of this stigma, you've

583
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 4: probably gone a lot more serious than a lot of

584
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 4: small business owners. And like on the podcast, I use

585
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 4: the example of a candle shop a lot, right if

586
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 4: you started your first candleshop, Like you're, you know, doing

587
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 4: the books, You're doing this and doing that, but often

588
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: you're not keeping the books as clean as someone in

589
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 4: the sex industry because they're often so worried about audits.

590
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: Like you're probably like, oh my god, going into this,

591
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 4: I need to be so squeaky clean because I'm all

592
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: over social media. I'm this I'm that like your books

593
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: are probably if I looked through them so clean. A

594
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 4: bank froths that. A bank is like step this way, Kayla.

595
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: How much did you want to borrow?

596
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

597
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 5: Honestly, if I didn't have that team at the start,

598
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 5: it would be a shit show. Yeah no.

599
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: But but if someone's listening to this and they are

600
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 4: doing sex work and it is a shit show, you

601
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 4: can clean it up.

602
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely. Don't ever feel like it's too late. Like

603
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 5: it took me like a good few months before I

604
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 5: was like, actually, like, let's do it. And I know

605
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 5: for some girls like it's taken them longer. And it's

606
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 5: like you can go back and you can go through

607
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 5: everything and it's not as daunting as it seems.

608
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: Totally.

609
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: Now, you went pretty viral pretty quickly with your cash

610
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 4: counting videos, and I found them so into not gonna lie.

611
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: One of them had what eleven million views or something ridiculous,

612
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 4: which is very cool. But then you stepped back from it.

613
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: Talk to me about why.

614
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 5: I guess like at the start, I was kind of

615
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 5: just like, you know, I didn't think it would blow

616
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 5: up to where it was today. So now being such

617
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 5: a bigger creator, I had to be more mindful about

618
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 5: the stuff that I was posting, because I feel like,

619
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 5: like I talk a lot about the downsides on my page,

620
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 5: but a lot of the time we're scrolling on TikTok,

621
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 5: like you'd just see one video and like not really,

622
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 5: you know, go into all the other videos. So I

623
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 5: was just thinking, like if like a young person is

624
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 5: scrolling there and they would see that video and be like,

625
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, she makes so much money and she

626
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: does this, like I want to do it too, and

627
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 5: then they don't really see like what I had to

628
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 5: do to get that money, do you know what I mean?

629
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Speaker 5: So it just kind of like it got to a

630
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 5: point where I was doing them and I was like, actually,

631
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 5: I don't feel comfortable doing this anymore. So that's when

632
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 5: I sort of stopped that, Like I stopped just cold turkey.

633
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: I was like, sorry, guys, I'm not doing this anymore,

634
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 5: because like there's just so many downsides of this industry,

635
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 5: and it's a very unsafe industry, Like you're meeting up

636
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 5: with literal strangers if you're in full service, so anything

637
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 5: could happen. And because I had that prior experience, I

638
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 5: felt like I was well equipped to get into full

639
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 5: service sex work. But if someone was like fresh eighteen

640
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 5: and they started, like if I was fresh eighteen, and

641
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 5: so I would have got myself into some literally really

642
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 5: shit situation, literally you know.

643
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: And you do see it happen, because I think happens

644
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: just the time.

645
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 4: We want the best for ourselves, right like, and that's

646
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: often why we're getting into industries like this, because we're like, okay, cool,

647
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 4: my current situation is not that, and I want to

648
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 4: change my life. I want wealth, I want to be successful,

649
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 4: and I can see that I might resonate with that.

650
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: I might be really good at that.

651
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 4: And like you said before, you know, I thought that

652
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: sex work was always really interesting, like cool, you might

653
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: fall into it without taking into consideration the negative sides.

654
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: So did you go from being an only fans creator

655
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: to then full service sex work or was it the

656
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 4: other way round?

657
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 5: It was only fans to full service sex work, like

658
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 5: I had little sprinkles in like throughout my only fans

659
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 5: like career. But I started full service sex work like

660
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Speaker 5: full time, probably like a year and a half ago,

661
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 5: like ye're actually not that long.

662
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Speaker 4: Acast, my gosh, I genuinely would have thought it would

663
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 4: have been the other way around that you were like, okay, cool,

664
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 4: because you do see a lot of sex workers go

665
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: I can't do this because it's so physically demanding. I

666
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 4: want to go and do only fans as kind of

667
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 4: like a way to still make money while alleviating the

668
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: physicality of it.

669
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Speaker 5: Well, the reason why I started it because like I

670
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 5: had made so much money through only fans and it

671
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 5: was like at a point where I was like, I

672
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 5: feel like I've exhausted every avenue. Well, like not so much,

673
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 5: but like I kind of got over like collabing with

674
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 5: people and things like that. I wanted to sort of

675
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 5: like slow down on that, and I was like, but

676
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 5: I still.

677
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: Want to make for this.

678
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 5: I shared a ton of money, and like I had

679
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 5: a lot of friends who were full service sex workers

680
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 5: and they make so much bank So I was like,

681
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 5: I feel like I can do it. And because like

682
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 5: I sort of had that online presence before, I felt

683
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 5: like like it was really easy for me to like

684
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 5: start getting clients and I would.

685
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: Have been able to demand a fee that you were

686
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: very comfortable with because you weren't just entering the market

687
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: and trying to prove yourself. You were like, well, actually

688
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: I am blue Eye Kayla Jade from here. If you

689
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: want to come and have this service, you can eat X.

690
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 5: Yeah. My fees were very high from the get go,

691
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 5: and a lot of people were like like how are

692
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 5: you charging that?

693
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: Like but I think people didn't believe it either. Yeah,

694
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 4: they were like, no, you don't. It's like I think I.

695
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 5: Really do and I think it was a good way

696
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 5: for Like I've had sex works come up to me

697
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 5: being like thank you for like because a lot of

698
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 5: the time, like people in the sex industry will cheapen themselves,

699
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 5: like you know, you're like you're worth so much, You're stunning,

700
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 5: Like you should be charging like top dollar, like people.

701
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: Will pay for it, yeah, one hundred.

702
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 5: Like if they want to see you, they'll pay for it.

703
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 5: So yeah, I never back down on that, like charging high.

704
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 5: I was like, look, if you.

705
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: Want to see me, like, this is how much it's

706
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: going to cost.

707
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 4: Otherwise I hate do cats at home and I'm very

708
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 4: happy to stay with them. I love that for you

709
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: talk to me a little bit more about where we

710
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 4: think we're at culturally, because a lot of women are

711
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 4: dominating the online space right now. They have huge followings,

712
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: viral content, and some serious income coming in from only fans.

713
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 4: But what do you think that says about society at

714
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 4: the moment. What do you think that says about where

715
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 4: the world is at culturally when it comes to sex work.

716
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's a great thing that women

717
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 5: are taking power and the a lot of them are

718
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 5: earning more money than men these days.

719
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 2: We love to see it.

720
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's incredible. It's definitely changed so much, even from

721
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 5: when I first started only fans to now, like, so

722
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 5: much has changed.

723
00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: No, I love it.

724
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: You mentioned before that you went into full service sex

725
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 4: work and it is very dangerous, and I think it

726
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: is important that we do like reiterate that point. We're

727
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: not saying, oh, this is really easy money, we're just privileged.

728
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: Actually's on the money for you to have said, I'll

729
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 4: come on the show, I'll talk to you about this stuff.

730
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: It's not because we want to like push people down

731
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 4: the route of becoming sex workers unless they're interested, in

732
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: which case, hopefully this has been a productive conversation for you.

733
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: But I want to know more about the safety aspect

734
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: of it, because obviously that is something that you would

735
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: have had to take incredibly seriously. Yes, what steps have

736
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 4: you been taking to protect yourself when it comes to

737
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: separating yourself and then your online personality and your business

738
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: from your loved ones, Like I feel like sex work

739
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 4: becomes very crossed over right because of the stigma. It

740
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 4: becomes your personality in a way, or people assume it

741
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: is your personality. How are you separating that out? How

742
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 4: are you staying safe?

743
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of ways to keep yourself safe,

744
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 5: and I think the biggest one would be obviously getting

745
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 5: like a work phone and having that separate to your

746
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 5: personal phone. Just trying to basically make a character, you know,

747
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 5: change your name, change your number, like keep that separate

748
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 5: because I think, like, especially when I first started, like OnlyFans, like,

749
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 5: I wasn't as aware of that stuff. So like when

750
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 5: I'm originally like made my social media accounts, like I

751
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 5: put my personal number and so my like so my

752
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 5: Instagram was just getting shown too, like all my family,

753
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 5: which was amazing.

754
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 4: You were I'm not sure how to tell my family

755
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 4: I'm doing sex work.

756
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 5: And then finding out like like what like.

757
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 4: Because to them as a push notification on there pretty much.

758
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 5: So yeah, there were things like that. When I first

759
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 5: started that I was just like I wish I did

760
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 5: that differently, And I cannot stress enough like, if you

761
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 5: are wanting to get into this industry, please like talk

762
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 5: to someone that, oh the industry, think of all the

763
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 5: cons of it because it could potentially affect the rest

764
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 5: of your life. And yeah, finding someone who knows those

765
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 5: safety protocols, and I guess just like being very clear

766
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 5: of your boundaries from the get go. You know, there's

767
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 5: certain things that sex workers do to keep themselves safe,

768
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 5: especially like when they're meeting up with a client, you

769
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 5: have to tell me, I can't it's code. It's code,

770
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 5: you know, like just to keep people safe. We don't

771
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 5: want like creep like finding out our little like things

772
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 5: that we do.

773
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: But there's also if you're going to get into sex work,

774
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 4: that's why you're saying, talk to someone in the industry

775
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 4: because they can let you in on what we should do. Right,

776
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 4: It shouldn't be on a podcast if it's.

777
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, there's certain things to like check, like, you know,

778
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 5: things like getting their idea as well and scanning that

779
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 5: scanning their numbers. There's lots of things that you can do.

780
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 5: And also I've never like I don't go to I

781
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 5: know a lot of else do this, but I've been

782
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 5: fortunate enough not to like go to outcolls. Yes, because

783
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 5: if you're going to people's houses and things like that,

784
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 5: I feel like something bad is more likely gonna happen

785
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 5: in those situations. Whereas I always make sure like I'm

786
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 5: at a hotel. I never do it at my house

787
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 5: at like don't ever give anyone your address, Like make

788
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 5: sure you're at a hotel, so that like when I

789
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 5: go down and I meet the client, like there's people around,

790
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 5: they see us together, they cameras see us, they see

791
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 5: us go up together. So there's just certain things like

792
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 5: that that will like protect you.

793
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. We won't get too much into that,

794
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: but it's so important to cross check all of that.

795
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, and just research as much as you can

796
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 5: before starting.

797
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. All right, We're coming close.

798
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: To the end of the episode, and I wish we

799
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: had so much longer to chat, but I need to

800
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: know a few hard and fast ones.

801
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: What's the wildest thing someone has offered to pay for?

802
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 4: And did you take it?

803
00:36:59,320 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: Oh?

804
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 5: I think that, like I charge most for his backdoor,

805
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 5: and that's like fifteen thousand dollars for half an hour,

806
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: So it's probably like the most that I've made.

807
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: For half an hour. Yes, oh good, So.

808
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 5: That's probably the most I've made in like a short session.

809
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 5: And I get some crazy requests.

810
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: What about the most amount of money you've made in

811
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: a day?

812
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 5: Probably about thirty thousand dollars thirty.

813
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: Grand in a day? Yeah, oh my gosh.

814
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 4: Was that from like one person engaging you? Or was

815
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 4: that like you've liked mine too?

816
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: That was two?

817
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 4: How good and wildest request not financial that you've been Like,

818
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: what the hell are you asking for?

819
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 5: Is this sex? We go on? OnlyFans or bar?

820
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 2: You can pick, you can share whatever you're most comfortable.

821
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 5: We had some crazy requests, like obviously, like me, pegging

822
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 5: men is very interesting.

823
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: I mean, if they're into it. But also that's not

824
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: that uncommon.

825
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 5: I mean it's kind of nice seeing a man on

826
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 5: all fours not gonna lie.

827
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 4: And I mean it makes really great Peggy Souit content.

828
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 4: So like I mean they're helping you in a way, Yes,

829
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: thanks so much.

830
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 5: Like honestly, I could talk all.

831
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: Day about you do want your socials and people can

832
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 4: follow you there. I want to know just before we go,

833
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 4: what's a really common misconception about sex work or about

834
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 4: only Fans creators that makes you really angry or makes

835
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: you really mad.

836
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 5: I think actually money related one would be I feel

837
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 5: like a lot of people like they see these creators

838
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 5: online and they're like, oh my god, like I can

839
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 5: make so much money doing this, when in reality, I

840
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 5: think I read somewhere they're like, majority of only Fans

841
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 5: creators make less the minimum wage they do and what

842
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 5: she makes sane there.

843
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: So the stats are that only Fans creators most of

844
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 4: them are making like less than one thousand dollars in total,

845
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 4: not per month, not per week, just in total. Because

846
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: they often join try really hard, it doesn't work because

847
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 4: I think a lot of them don't realize the strategy.

848
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: The business need to be organization.

849
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, you need to be help resume, market yourself off,

850
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 5: and treat it like your business, like you've got to

851
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 5: put in the work to get there. Like literally, only

852
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 5: the top like one percent like make money Like it's insane.

853
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 2: And it's nice that you're sitting up there.

854
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 5: I like the good part of you.

855
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 2: Now.

856
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 4: One of the cool things about this story is people

857
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 4: are going to go, oh my gosh, she's so fun.

858
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: I love her. Conversations.

859
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 4: I love her stories and that is a really good

860
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 4: thing because you're about to launch a podcasts. Yeah right,

861
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 4: so tell me about that. Tell me about like what

862
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 4: we're going to learn from that, what you're going to share,

863
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 4: and what it's called, all of it, because I know

864
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: now that people have gotten to have this conversation with you,

865
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 4: they're like, why is it ending?

866
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, doesn't have to. So my podcast is called story

867
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 5: Time with Kayla Jaide, and it's going to be like

868
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 5: a very uncensored version of my TikTok. So I'm going

869
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 5: to tell a lot of stories that I've never told

870
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: on TikTok before. There's only so much you can say

871
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 5: on TikTok, and I have to be very careful with

872
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 5: what your language or your words, So I'll say things like, oh,

873
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 5: you know, this is client and this is like sort

874
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 5: of what our interaction was like, but this would be

875
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 5: like deep into the law of it all.

876
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: I'm obsessed, Like people are gonna love this, but Kayla,

877
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 4: I'm a mum, Like I have a one year old.

878
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Speaker 4: I can't listen to that in the.

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Speaker 2: Car like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, keep it, like be careful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like he's already started to pick up words that

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Speaker 4: I use and I've already started grow. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 4: Like I probably shouldn't swear at home anymore, Like that's

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Speaker 4: not going.

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Speaker 2: To be car appropriate.

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Speaker 4: But maybe once I've done the daycare drop off, I

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Speaker 4: could listen to that on my way into work. Where

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Speaker 4: else can we find you? We obviously mentioned TikTok and Instagram,

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Speaker 4: Like if we want to follow along, what are the

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Speaker 4: best handles to find you on?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, TikTok and Instagram are my main one, Like blue

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Speaker 5: Eye Kayla Jade on my TikTok and then Storytime with

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Speaker 5: Kayla Jade on Spotify and YouTube. I'm got to be

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Speaker 5: my new plug.

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Speaker 4: Kayla Jade, thank you so much for joining me and

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Speaker 4: for being honestly so open about your story, your business

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Speaker 4: and all of the strategy that in behind the scenes,

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Speaker 4: because I think people just assume, oh, it's just only

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Speaker 4: fans you just chuck up a few photos, and that

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Speaker 4: is not the case at all. There's so much nuance

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Speaker 4: to it.

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Speaker 2: This conversation is exactly the kind of thing we need

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Speaker 2: to have more of.

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Speaker 5: Oh definitely, I love that we're like talking more and

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Speaker 5: being more open about you know, money and stuff, because

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Speaker 5: I feel like at school, like it just it's not

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Speaker 5: something that you really learn or like, you know, I

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Speaker 5: sort of had to find a way of learning how

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Speaker 5: to manage my money.

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Speaker 2: So and you do love that there's done it with us.

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Speaker 5: Out there now, like that you guys talk about it,

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Speaker 5: which is incredible.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed.

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Speaker 4: I feel like this conversation has been really honest and

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Speaker 4: really nuanced. But also it's a reminder that wealth it

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Speaker 4: doesn't just come from having a salary or going and

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Speaker 4: getting a job. It actually comes from you thinking about

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Speaker 4: your priorities and what you're interested in and then backing

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Speaker 4: yourself to do that. And it doesn't matter what industry

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Speaker 4: you're in, whether you want to start a candle business

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Speaker 4: or you want to go into full service sex work. Like,

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Speaker 4: the important thing here is that you're backing yourself and

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Speaker 4: believing that you are capable of.

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Speaker 5: That absolutely and believing yourself go with your gut. No,

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Speaker 5: don't let people pressure you to do anything you know exactly.

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