1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: It's been an incredibly busy night. I think you'd have 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: to say possibly busy early morning as well in Parliament 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: and the Northern Territory Treasurer Bill Yan joins me on 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: the line, good morning to your bill. 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: Good morning, Kay, and good morning the people in the 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: top end. 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Now bill the government earlier this morning passing the Territory 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Coordinator Bill in Parliament. The Chief Minister leofanocchi Aro welcoming 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: the passage of that bill, highlighting its significance and redefining 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: the way business is done. In the Northern Territory Treasurer, 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: the discussion went well into the night. What time did 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: you finish up and what do you think the passing 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: of this legislation means. 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I think we finished in the chamber about 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: one thirty kyerd about quarters, so I think by the 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: time we got out of probably got out of Parliament House. 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: It was a pretty epic session. Hats offs and Chief mints. 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: I think nearly six and a half hours in the 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: chair during consideration in detail. But Kay, this is a 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: turning portant at the end of the day for the 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: territory and for our economic development. It provides that certainly, 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: I think the proponents who are looking to come and 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: invest here in the territory. We've seen that the blockages 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: and the difficulties of doing business and the shuffling between 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: departments of proponents who are looking to develop significant projects. 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: And this will be now one stop shop through the 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: Territory Coordinator. They'll be able to course go out and 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: find and start to drive those projects and then work 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: with those proponents and government to deliver those projects. And 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: we need that investment here in the territory. Cade we 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: know what our budget's like, it's in a bit of 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: a whole major oles. We need those proponents. We need 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: that outside investment in the territory to start to drive 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: our economoon, start to produce those royalsies and that other 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: income for territory and so we can do the things 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: that we want to do. 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Treasure. There were a number of amendments which the Crossbench 38 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: attempted to make. Why did the government choose to knock 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: back many of those changes which were proposed by the 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: Scrutiny Committee as well? 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, well look Okatie, there was a lot of amendments 42 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: come through, But what the Territory Coordinator Bill was always 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: about is cutting through that rotape and making processes easier 44 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: to actually get projects off the ground and get the moving. 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: And a lot of the amendments were brought forward actually 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: wound back what the bill was actually about. So it 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: was about putting more bureaucratic processes into the bill to actually, 48 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: funny enough, slow things down, and that's the opposite to 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,559 Speaker 2: what we're trying to achieve. We're trying to remove bureaucratic 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: processes and speed of those timelines up because we've lost 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: so many projects in the territory because of the timeiness 52 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: on delivering the timeliness of making decisions. So the bill 53 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: is about changing that. So anything that was going to 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: actually create more bureaucratic process for the sake of bureaucratic 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: process defeats what the purpose of the bill was. But 56 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: there are a number of things that were raised by 57 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: the Scrutiny Committee, Katie, that were changed in the bill, 58 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: some of the reporting, some stuff coming back to Parliament 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: for reviews. So there was some stuff that actually made 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: good sense for that transparency that was brought through. But 61 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: anything that was actually changing what the makeup of the 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 2: bill was about and actually slowing things down and adding 63 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: bureaucratic processes certainly wasn't supported by us. 64 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: Well, look it's forged ahead. It is happening and you know, 65 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: time will tell what kind of difference it does make 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: in terms of getting projects moving in the Northern Territory Treasurer. 67 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: A large focus for the opposition yesterday in Parliament was 68 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: indeed the Ikach Report operation of POLO. We now know 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: that the Chief Minister obviously announced late yesterday that the 70 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: termination of the former Police Commissioner Michael Murphy on the 71 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: recommendation of the Executive Council contract was indeed terminated. In 72 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: terms of the discussion yesterday in question Time, the Opposition 73 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: was saying that the Chief Minister could have come out 74 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: publicly with the report sooner. Do you think that the 75 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: Chief Minister has acted quickly enough? Oh? 76 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Okay, It's interesting the opposition's tactics yesterday in relation 77 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: to this. Now we know that in the Ikak Report 78 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: it said that the report could be the Chief Minister 79 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: could table that report in parliament. So yesterday it was 80 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: the first day of parliament since the report was given 81 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: to the Chief Minister, and the first action of government. 82 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 2: The first piece of business today yesterday was to actually 83 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: table that report. So I don't understand how the opposition 84 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: can say that she could have come out and discussed 85 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: it earlier, because there's very strict rules. As we're all 86 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: around I CAAC. If I'm involved in an I CAAC mat, 87 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: I can't discuss it with my cabinet colleagues, I can't 88 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: discuss it with anyone. So the Chief Minister got the 89 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: report and said yes it can be table in parliament. 90 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that you can actually go out and 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: discussed the contents of that report publicly before parliament. It's 92 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: just I always wondered where that I were going with this. 93 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: It just didn't make a lot of sense. 94 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, do you support the way that she has 95 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: handled this whole situation. 96 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Katie, I said, I think we spoke about this 97 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: last week. I was in dunment for eighteen years, so 98 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: I understand how the process has worked and sometimes as 99 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: a methodical approach that you have to go through when 100 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: dealing with these matters. And of course there's natural disasters 101 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: are afforded to both sides, so getting the report and 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: working methodically through that decision process has to be done 103 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: otherwise we end up with what the previous government done. 104 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: With Murphy. They missed the process up and we all 105 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: know what happened there. It become an absolute debarkle. So 106 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: oh you mean to work through the process. 107 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: Sorry do you mean with Jamie Chalker? I think you 108 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: said Murphy there? 109 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, mom, mind mistake. The yeah Jamie Chalker is yeah, ye. 110 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: The previous government jumped the gun on that and didn't 111 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: do the process correctly as it and it left us 112 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: with a bit of a dog's breakfast and of course 113 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: a huge payout. 114 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: Well, look, we're going to catch up with the Deputy 115 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: Opposition Leader, Duran Young in a couple of minutes, so 116 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: i'll hear what he's got to say about the situation. Treasurer, 117 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: I know that yesterday the government launched its Rebuilding the 118 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: Economy Strategy for twenty twenty five to twenty eight. It's 119 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: been described as an action plan to drive economic growth, 120 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: create jobs and restore confidence in the territory's future. I'm 121 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: sure that they're certainly your main objectives as the Treasurer. 122 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: You know some of the key priorities will five of 123 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: them making the Northern Territory the best place to do business, 124 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: building a bigger, better workforce, delivering for Australia unlocking regional growth, 125 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: connecting the Northern Territory Treasurer. We often hear slogans to 126 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: try and get things moving in the Northern Territory. I 127 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: mean boundless possible springs to mind. What exactly what exactly, 128 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: what exactly is this strategy going to do to get 129 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: things moving? Rather than just words? 130 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, we put the strategy outkay, and it's 131 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: not just words. This is a signal to business. And 132 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: I said, a signal to investors that we're open to business. 133 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: And I suppose the first key part of that was 134 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: yesterday ka well actually early as this morning and passing 135 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: the Territory Coordinator Bill. So that is one part of 136 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: the best place to do business. And the second part 137 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: of that, of course is the Fast Track Approvals Task 138 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: Force and the work that they're doing. So we need 139 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: the territory to be the best place to do want 140 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: business to come to the territory because it's easy and 141 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: simple to do business here, and it hasn't been. So 142 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: that's one of the key things that we need to unlock. 143 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: We need to attract the business to the territory because 144 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: it is the best place to do business. It is 145 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: the best regulatory environment to do business. And I think 146 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: I said yesterday numerous times, is that we've got all 147 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: the resources natural resources that Western Australia has in some respects, 148 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: but we're too hard to do business. So we need 149 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: to unlock that and we can become the powerhouse of 150 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: the country. The good announcement today are supposed from the 151 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: federal government because we've been putting pressure on them ever 152 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: since we got into government about the dharma and attracting 153 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: overseas workers into the territory. So we're glad to see 154 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: that announcement. I said, we pressure on Robin Carl has 155 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: been doing a heap of work in that space to 156 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: increase that workforce. So there's another piece of that. And said, 157 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: through the resources that we have, we can deliver for 158 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: the country. We know we've got enough gas in the beadle, 159 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 2: I think the power the entire country for four hundred years. 160 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: We just need to unlock that potential and those benefits 161 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: then flow to territorians. But of course, strategically, if you 162 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: look at that, delivering for Australia is our of course 163 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: a strategic place within defense. We're seeing increased investment from 164 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: the defense in Australia. We're also seeing the US working 165 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: with us and now of course we have the Japanese 166 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: Self Defense Force coming to do work with us here 167 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: in a territory. So that is another piece of course 168 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: of delivering for Australia and our regional growth without communities 169 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: that's of course always going to be key because they've 170 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: got so much potential in the community is to be 171 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: part of part of this process and I think part 172 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: of the bigger picture moving forward. So it's pretty exciting, kay, 173 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: what we announced yesterday, and I said, we're working hard 174 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: now to make sure we deliver on those five key pillars. 175 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: Well, look, I think that I, like many Territorians, hope 176 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: that we do start to see the economy turn around 177 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: here in the Northern Territory. And I will take our 178 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: listeners through that new five year agreement when it comes 179 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: to DARMA a little bit later. Bill, before I let 180 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: you go this morning, what's on the agenda for the 181 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: government today in Parliament. 182 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: We're introducing a couple of bills this morning, Kay, that 183 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: will be debated next parliament. Of course, it's General Business Day, 184 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: so this is the opportunity for the opposition and Independence 185 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: to bring forward their business today. So we've got a 186 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,479 Speaker 2: few things this morning or since weis are a procedural, 187 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: I said, introduce some bills, but this afternoon will be 188 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: I said, the opposition's day along with the independence. I 189 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: believe Yini Goala's got a motion that he's bringing on 190 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: this afternoon, and then I think if that if we 191 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: work through that one, I think there's a water security 192 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: from the opposition after that. 193 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: So I'll catch up with you today. I'll catch up 194 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: with the opposition in just a couple of moments. Hey, 195 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: a very quick one before I let you go, Can 196 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: you clarify for me? Yesterday during question time Dorothy Dixon, 197 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: a question was asked of the government to Steve Edgington, 198 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: the Housing Minister, about rental areas and just how badly 199 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: those in public housing are in rental areas. Did I 200 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: hear correctly that we have got thirty nine million dollars 201 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: in rental areas when it comes to public housing. 202 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunate, Katie. You heard correctly. Previous government wrote off 203 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: nearly seventy million dollars in rental debt with the stroke 204 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: of a pen, and then, of course haven't done anything 205 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: since then to deal with those rental areas and already 206 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: since that debt we've written off, we're back up over 207 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: thirty million dollars. So there's a whole piece of work 208 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: to deal with recouping that money. But at the end 209 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: of the day, making sure that the people in public 210 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: house are actually paying rent. 211 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: Well, look, we're going to try and catch up with 212 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: the Housing Minister. Hopefully we're able to get Steve Edgington 213 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow. Bill yea Treasurer for the Northern Territory, 214 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: Infrastructure Minister, Mister for Transport, various portfolios. Great to speak 215 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: with you this morning. 216 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you Katie, and I'll see you soon. 217 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: Sounds good. Thank you,