WEBVTT - TNC Review: Breakfast Substitute Biscuits 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.000 If you grew up in some parts of Europe or 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:06.119 travel there regularly, you may have seen that's breakfast biscuits 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:09.400 can be relatively common as a way to start the 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:12.200 day with a hot drink. Now, a few years ago 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:15.280 back in Australia, we started to see breakfast biscuits in 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.480 supermarkets as well, and they're marketed as a quick, easy 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:24.279 and healthy breakfast option. So is it actually possible that 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:27.720 a sweet biscuit could be part of a healthy start 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.560 to the day. Hi, I'm Susie Burrows and I'm Lean Wood, 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.239 and as two of Australia's leading dieticians who specialize in 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.880 evidence based nutrition, we bring you the Nutrition Couch Product Review, 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.879 a weekly chat on new products and old favors that 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:43.080 you can find in supermarkets. Now, Leanne, I've got an 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.440 interesting story about breakfast biscuits because I've mentioned before on 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:48.400 the potty that I lived with Italians when I was 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:52.400 at university Northern Italians, and it was absolutely normal for 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:56.360 Nonna to start the day with a cup of tea 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.800 before even her coffee, and she would buy Italian biscuit 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.760 from the Italian delis. They're down in Wollongong and there's 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.759 quite a lot of Italians down there, and so she 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.520 will routinely go to the local sort of Italian grosser 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.120 and stock up on breakfast biscuits and down several to 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.759 start the day. And I certainly joined her when I 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:21.240 was eighteen nineteen at university. Now I am generally not 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.080 a fan of the ones in supermarket, and I'm going 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:24.360 to take a close look at a couple of them 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.319 a day. But I do know that Europeans routinely have 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.679 this as they start of the day, and they start 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.080 sort of with that, and then they'll go to a 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.480 hot meal in the day. What do you think have 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.440 you seen it much in your practice or with people before, 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.840 sort of having piscotti or biscuits as a breakfast. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.920 Not so much piscotti, but I do I do haven't 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:45.720 had a couple of clients who are using these more so, 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.200 and particularly if I've ever had clients with young sort 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.360 of young teenagers, they send them to school with these 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.120 things because you know, the kids are like, oh, I'm 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.120 not hungry, but they're like, we should eat something or 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.000 take something with you. So I do find a lot 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.680 of parents use this for teenagers who don't want well 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.680 aren't hungry, or maybe it's not coolty breakfast, whatever the reason, 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:03.800 they do sort of use these, But I must be honest, 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.160 I have used these while traveling a few times, just 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.040 a something quick and easy to have in my handbag 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.560 if I'm overseas and I'm sort of traveling around, particularly 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.880 when I travel through parts of Asia, and I just 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.040 think it's very traditional in Asian cuisine to have more 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.400 like you know, the meat and the veggie in the 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.000 noodle for breakfast. And I'm very much like a I 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:21.720 like a light of sort of breakfast. If I'm not 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.280 going to have my eggs on toast or something, I 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.800 would rather prefer something like a poroje or a cereal 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.959 or something. So I just can't sort of stomach meat 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:29.760 and veggie at that sort of time in the morning, 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.000 so I do if I've traveled through parts of Asia, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.000 I have sort of just stashed these in my handbag 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.800 that or like a protein bar, so I have doubled 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.560 with them occasionally, But I definitely wouldn't say that they're 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.440 as healthy as what they are marketed, and even particularly 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.800 the fiber. You know, they're marketed as these like wonderful 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:49.239 replacements to breakfast, but I think for the right person potentially, 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.000 you know, for our young athletes and people with higher requirements, 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.080 I think they could be a good option. But I 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.520 think for the large majority of ossies who are looking 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.919 to lose weight, I mean, let's see, right, let's review them. 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.360 Well, okay, I've chased two just to quick look. The 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.080 first one that I had to look at is the 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:04.960 very well known brand and it was probably the first 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.880 one to market here in Australia is the bel Vita 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.200 Breakfast biscuits. They're in the yellow packet. Now, I'm pretty 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.000 sure they're actually in the biscuit section. I don't think 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.120 they're in the cereal section. From memory and I've chosen 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:17.960 there's a whole lot of them lean, there's like sort 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.640 of Natella ones with chocolate in them. There's chocolate varieties, 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:21.520 there's minis in. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.160 Mini packs, there's a cranberof lavor. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.040 Yeah, I've just chosen this sort of traditional, larger ones. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.080 These ones are called milk and cereals. They're an overseas product. Actually, 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:30.720 they're made in France, and this is the exact one 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.400 you'll find overseas. They're not made here in Australia, so 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:39.280 they're imported. They retail for four dollars fifty for force packets, 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.920 six in for six biscuits, six in there, six mini 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.920 packs and then the sorry, the mini packs have each 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.440 got that's right, they're fifty grams in it. Yes, that's 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.440 three hundred grams, so they're fifty grams and they've got 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.560 four individual biscuits, and there's six packs per four dollars 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:57.240 fifty Now per serve. That gives us about two hundred 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:01.480 and twenty calories per serve, nine hundred kilodel four grams 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.800 of protein. So if I was comparing it, and eggs 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.840 got about eight to ten grams of protein per egg, 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.520 and a bowl of oats with milk would have about 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.520 ten twelve grams of protein, so that's less than a 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.080 third of those serves. Total fat seven grams, and there 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:18.120 is less than just on three percent saturated fat, so 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.239 eleven percent fat overa also not a low fat option. 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:25.200 Carbohydrate thirty three point seven grams, so that's two decent 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.800 slices of breadworth of carbohydrate, ten point one grams of sugar, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.279 so eleven percent sugars in that, and they're not naturally 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.760 occurring sugars in a biscuit product. We'll take a closer 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.840 look at the ingredients in a second, but it's not 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.320 like lactose naturally occurring in dairy or fructose naturally occurring 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.640 in fruit. These are added sugars. Three point four grams 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.000 of dietary fiber. Now that is what we would define 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.240 as a server fiber, but certainly much lower than what 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:48.719 I would like people to get in a couple of 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.680 slices of whole grain bread, which should be closer to 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.160 eight at least, and in a good quality breakfast cereal 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.600 six to eight, so again about half the dietary fiber. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.799 Keep in mind this is a fifty gram small serve 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.880 of a food for breakfast, and one hundred and ninety 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.760 seven milligrams of sodium, so you know, pretty low in general. 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.719 I guess it's not lovely loaf for biscuits low, but 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.360 it's not a huge amount of sodium. Made in France. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.480 The product, so the cereal component that say lists of cereals, 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.680 which is something sort of referred to more overseas than 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.080 traditionally on labels here in Australia, but that basically refers 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.159 to the grain or the starch content. So this is 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.200 a wheat flour forty eight percent, which is not a 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.159 whole wheat flour, so that is a refined sauce. It's 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.360 twenty five percent of that is whole grain cereal, which 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.400 is a good thing, you know, that's adding to the fiber. 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.719 It's got a mix of wheat flour, whole grain oat flakes, 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:38.799 buckwheat grits, barley flour, whole grain rye flour, whole grain 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.920 spelt flour. The next ingredient is sugar, so as we said, 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.080 it's added sugar and vegetable oil and hasten to say 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:48.080 it's likely palm bulking agent, milk, solids raising agents, mineral 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:53.520 mineral salt, mulsifier, soy, lethus, and flavors. So it contains wheat, oats, barley, 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:58.120 ryece spelt, milk, and soy. Now we could talk. You know, 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.240 it's a biscuit. I don't know. I can't. I struggle 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.800 to find anything positive nutritionally in this product. And the 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:06.600 issue I have with it is that they're sort of 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.520 aggressively marketed as a breakfast item. There's a whole range 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.479 of them. There's chocolate, as I said, there's one field 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.000 sort of with chocolate spread you know, this is to 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:19.160 me lean there's nothing that mimics breakfast in this product 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.120 which is called a breakfast product, and I have fundamental 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.560 issues with that. Now, admittedly it's not an Australian made product. 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.120 This is a big brand overseas. It's very well recognized, 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:30.840 so it's sort of an imported product that's brought to 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:32.840 this market. I guess to test it out in a way, 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.159 and there's perhaps a demand for it, but I think 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.680 that it's really misleading to call it breakfast because to me, 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.560 there's nothing that mimics a well balanced breakfast, which would 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:45.039 include a decent source of protein, much better profile of carbohydrate, 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.240 much higher amount of fiber, much less added sugar. So 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.120 I think it's really quite misleading and I'm not a fan. 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:52.719 I don't recommend them and I don't use them. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:57.119 Yeah, there's no healthy fat in there either. Yeah. Really, 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.120 I mean, I think you'd have to be pretty specific 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.400 with the type of person, and right, I think sort 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.760 of young athletes who are I don't know, maybe going 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.000 to rowing at five am in the morning or something 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:07.520 like that, where you're just looking for something quick and 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.479 easy they can eat one Mum or Dad are driving 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.200 them in the car and they jumping off and they 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.840 go into the early early morning sport. Maybe because it's 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.000 got a really good amount of sort of accessible energy. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.240 It's got a bit of sugar in there. Maybe for 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.520 someone like a growing team, but I just don't think 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.000 for any sort of adult, whether you're trying to lose 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.480 weight or not. This is, as you mentioned, Susie, any 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.040 sort of nourishment. Really we're missing a good serve of 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.760 healthy bad. It's the carbo hydrate load's not too bad, 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.400 but the addition of the carbohydrate it's not great. The 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.280 sugars are pretty high, the protein's pretty low. I mean, 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.000 it's pretty affordable if you're looking for some positives. Four 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.960 dollars fifty for six packets. It's that's on a dollar 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.680 per serving. But there's no sustenance to that. Like if 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:49.040 I had that, ide'd be hungry thirty minutes later. It's 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.560 just it's not something that you would actually call anything 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.040 that's sort of well rounded or nourish as a breakfast item. 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.320 It's very much a biscuit. It's very much something that 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.200 I would rather use as a snack. So four biscuits, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.520 like you basically have four biscuits for breakfast. There's no 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.800 other way around it. It is a biscuit, even though 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.320 to be honest, I don't market it is that it's 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.760 called Belvita Breakfast milk and cereals, So as you said, 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.160 they're heavily marketed as breakfast. I don't call it a biscuit, 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.160 but let's be honest, it's a biscuit. There's no other 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:14.120 way around. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.720 It, and it's in the biscuit aisle. I'm pretty sure 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.680 as well. I'm actually surprised they've survived this long. They've 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.960 been around a while. I'm surprised because I don't I'm 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.680 just thinking who buys them, Like, I'm actually just surprised. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:27.760 It's so hard in supermarket to survive, let alone this long. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.320 Someone's buying it. But I think even for athletes there's 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.800 better options, you know what I mean, Like there's musli 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:37.439 bars and breakfast bars that are much better nutritionally than 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.080 that product. So yeah, as I said, I really struggle 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.240 to find anything decent to say about it at all. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.800 But you know, it's just interesting what survives overseas and 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.719 what's popular there, because certainly that whole model of cereals 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.559 in the morning is very common initially in Europe. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.600 If I look at the front of packet marketing, like 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.400 if I hadn't turned it over, looked at the nutrition label, 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.160 looked at the ingredient list, I would probably think that 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.320 that is a better option than a museally by just 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.600 based on the front of pack marketing, I would think 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.000 that that's a plain product I could give my kids 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:09.920 and it would be healthy. I think it's low sugar, 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.040 says milk and cereal. I would probably assume that there's 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.600 some added sort of calcium or something in there. If 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.160 I just took it on front of pack marketing alone, 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.360 I honestly would probably say that that is a healthy 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.120 product that I think a lot of parents would give 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.280 to their children. I honestly believe that, and I think 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.760 that's who is supporting this and buying these products, and 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.080 that's probably why it's really lasted so long. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.800 And that's why it's misleading. Yeah, it's misleading, and that's 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.920 and doing the mini packs is terrible because it encourages 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.160 parents to buy those for kids. As soon as you 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.760 see minis that's what people pack in lunchboxes and for 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:44.040 kids for snacks. And you're absolutely right if you're marketing 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.680 or positioning as a breakfast item, you would assume a 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:50.120 certain level of calcium in or dairy base. Now at 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.440 least if you're formulating a product like that, adds some 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.840 fortify it, puts some begrit vitamins in, put some extra 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:59.320 dietary fiber in, puts add some calcium to it, and 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.800 then from annutrition perspective, we could model with that and 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.040 potentially use it for fussy eaters to tick some nutrient boxes. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.000 But it's not even fortified. So to me, it's like, 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.320 you know, not only are you positioning in a breakfast space, 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.679 but you're not providing some of the key nutrients we 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.840 would expect with breakfast and then you're not even bothering 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.080 to fortify it a bit. So yeah, I really sort 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.720 of struggle with it how it survives here in general, 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.720 And certainly, you know, I often see little kids at 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.320 the park, you know, with plain milk type biscuits because 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.000 I think, I don't know where that comes from either, 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.640 but I guess if the biscuit's got milk in the title, 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.400 you know, you could be forgiven for thinking it's a 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.280 source of dairy. So you know, you can see how 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.840 busy parents so trying to make good choices, and they 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.200 see that and they think, oh, well, that's going to 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.800 be better than you know, a sweet biscuit or a 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.960 chocolate nut thing, you know, so they grab it. But yeah, 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.400 that's why I wanted to cover them today because I 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.640 thought it's a really interesting product to discuss for those reasons. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.720 Maybe they're meant to be drunk with a glass of milk, right, 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.280 because then at least you'd be getting a little bit 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.200 more calcium, a little bit more protein in there as well. 0:10:59.360 --> 0:10:59.600 Maybe. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.960 Yeah, I mean, overall, I think it's definitely it's not 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:04.599 a total red light for me, but it's definitely not 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.520 a green light either. I'd call it sort of orange. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.360 I'd think have with caution and for the right type 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.280 of person. Maybe, I think definitely having it with a 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.920 glass of milk would boost up the nutrition of that product, 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:15.480 particularly using it as breakfast. 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:16.599 If you did it, if you had it with a 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.240 glass of milk, you're closer to three hundred cow You're 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.880 getting fourteen grams of protein depending on that. If you're 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.280 having full creep milk, that you're getting twenty grams of fat, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.439 but then you're adding you know, you're getting close to 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.080 fifty grams of carb there, which is an insignificant for 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.240 children or adults, you know, So I yeah, I really 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.480 struggle to place it. And as I said, I certainly 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.440 don't use it, but there's a lot of them. So 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.079 as I said, it's hard in supermarkets, so it's probably 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:42.960 we do this segment just to try and wade through 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.319 the rubbish that can be out there or just the 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.959 confusion that can be out there for busy people. So 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.840 the other one I've chosen is the Uncle Toby's Breakfast Bake. Now, 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:54.800 I actually did some work with this product when it 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.840 launched a few years ago, and I'll share wye at 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.640 a second, because it's probably not something I would do 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:01.400 as much now, but i'll share why I did it 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.840 at the time. So it's six dollars fifty for six 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.560 so straight away, and that to me suggests it's higher 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.319 quality because inevitably in supermarket, if it's relatively cheat you 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.120 put inexpensive, it's probably not as high quality. You do 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.160 pay more for high quality food. I just saw strawberries 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:17.960 at ten dollars a punt, which kind of sums it up. 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.600 So this is in the breakfast section, though these Uncle 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.439 Toby's under the oats ranges in the breakfast section at rate, 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.440 it's got four and a half health Star rating. Now 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.480 we've spoken about the pros and cons of that before, 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.600 but it is rated relatively high based on the overall 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.160 profile a service sixty five gram so it's a heavy bar. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.719 It's quite substantial, and the calories reflect that. You know, 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.600 it's almost three hundred calories per bar, so it's got 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:43.439 some serious weight to it for busy, potentially active people 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.160 who need a good energy hit in the morning. Our 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.720 protein is not overly high, close to six grams per serve. 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.280 The fat is ten point two grams, again not insignificant, 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.439 but the saturated fat's very low, suggesting that the fats 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.480 are coming from better sources, and we'll take a closer 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.439 look at that in a second. Similar amount of hydrate 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.520 of the bel beta at thirty three point eight and 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.600 seven point five grams of sugar at eight percent, so 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.560 not insignificant. Again, seven point four grams dietary fiber though, 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.959 so just over twice what you're getting in the bel 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.240 beta range and much lower sodium coming in. It's just 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:18.040 fifty so it contains. When I'm looking whole grain oats 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.640 fifty three percent, so half of it's got an oat base. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.920 Next ingredients glucose, so aget an, added sugar, chicker root fiber. 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:26.800 Now we'll talk about that the second because we've both 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.360 got thoughts on it. To get that fiber content up, 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.839 sunflowur oil, honey, five percent roasted almond, so there is 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.000 a nut proportion to it, which is where they're getting 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.040 some of those good fats from. Second source of sugar 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.200 and brown sugar almond meal, again improving the fat ratio. Actually, 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.520 that's the third source of added sugar. Let's go glucose, 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.400 honey and then brown sugar, glicerine. Just to bind it 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.200 a little bit, Tapioca starch another source of added sugar, 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.679 wheat protein minerals adding some calcium to that, even though 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.760 they haven't listed calcium on the label, which is interesting. 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.960 Flavor a mulsifier eyed ied sole mineral salt. It's very 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.280 low amounts given the overall sodium. So is this one 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.720 that much better? Now? At the time I did this, 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:08.800 it was because it was marketed to kids who didn't 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.079 eat breakfast as a better alternative based on the whole 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.800 greater content. Now, I did it at the time it 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.600 was two or three years ago. I probably wouldn't do 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.960 it now because as I've got a bit older and 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:21.920 doing a lot more of this stuff, I have to 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.000 be a lot stricter. But I did do it at 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.400 the time because for non breakfast eaters, I would argue 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.520 that this is slightly better, but is it gold standard? 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:29.680 No? 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.400 And as I said, I probably wouldn't do it again now. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.680 But nutritionally it is better than the bell Beta biscuit, 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.800 I believe. But the only people that I would now 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.480 prescribe this too is probably my busy active teens and 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.280 young athletes who need a good amount of energy in 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.600 the morning and can get away with that kind of 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.160 added sugar in the diet. So yeah, I sort of 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.760 would give it. Say I'd give the Belveta four or 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.080 five out of ten, and i'd give this probably seven. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:58.640 I don't know what, do you think? 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.960 Maybe low, only because I know that a lot of 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:03.560 my breakfast eaters, like, if you're going to be someone 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.240 that eats breakfast, they're hungry, and this is not a 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.440 volume dense food. This is not something work. I mean, 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.760 I could probably eat this bake or this bar, whatever 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.840 you want to call it into its three mouthfuls, like 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:16.400 it's not a large amount of food. Yes, So for me, 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.080 just from a fat loss perspective, this isn't ideal because 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.280 I think people will just feel hungry or just that 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.040 mind you know how you need a good portion of 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:24.920 food in front of your eyes, need to see a 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.560 good portion of food to even feel full to begin with, 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.240 if that makes sense, Like you want to feel like 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.040 you're eating a decent amount of food, and when you're 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.200 just munching on something that's basically musually bar for breakfast, 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.760 I just wouldn't feel satisfied. I'd probably be looking for 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.160 something within an hour. That's me personally, and I know 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:40.680 a lot of my clients are the same. We really 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.560 work in building volume, dense meals for them. So I 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.520 think the right type of person, as you said, someone 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.000 who's super busy or maybe doesn't eat breakfast but probably should. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.000 You know, the person that tends to skip breakfast because 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.000 they're so busy, but then over eats later on, perhaps 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.120 this is something for them. So definitely the ingredient list 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.560 is a bit better. The amount of fiber in there, 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.320 some of that coming from the rolled oach, a large 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.280 bulk that's also coming from the chickery root fiber. We 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.440 don't tolerate that very well, Susie and I together. It's 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.360 in a lot of breakfast products. It's what they used 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.680 to sort of not artificially, but to add in extra 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.160 fiber to a lot of breakfast based cereals, protein bars, cereals, 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.080 that sort of thing. So it makes me very very gassy, 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.440 and I just don't tolerate. I get terrible cramps with it. 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:23.720 But if you're wondering why you do struggle with a 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.800 lot of these bars and cereal based products, take a 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.640 look at the label, because I'm and a lot of 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.320 my clients actually struggle with chickory root fiber as well. 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.440 But the interesting thing I saw on the front of 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.480 pack label, Susie, is that the glacemic index. So this 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.840 is obviously something that they're marketing at diabetics. So it's got, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.720 you know, the equivalent of two slices of better than there. 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.880 I think two slices bread with some eggs and a 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.880 good quality factor and some vegetables as well to slow 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.080 down the digestion all of that carbohydrate would be a 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.400 much better choice if I was a diabetic. This is 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.359 definitely not something that I would recommend for my diabetics. 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:56.800 But of course it's going to be a better option 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.120 than if you were a diabetic and you had, you know, 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.960 three of four Scots fingers with your copper morning coffee. 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.200 This would yet probably be a better option. So it's 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.119 really it's maybe the better of a bad bunch. I 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.600 don't know. It's not definitely not my favorite type of 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.640 breakfast option, but I think young teens, busy athletes, people 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.800 with high requirements, people who are too busy to eat 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.960 anything and just want to munch something quickly to get 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.959 something in to prevent that over eating later on, perhaps 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.800 it could be a good option. But definitely, nutrition profile 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.639 Wiles is absolutely better than the bell be bars. I 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:27.600 would definitely say that. 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.159 And you know, when I'd use it, I wouldn't even 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:30.840 use it for breakfast. I'd use it like as an 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.440 afternoon snack on the go when you need something kind 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.440 of where kids are hungry and they're looking for something. 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.240 It's going to be a million times better than a 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.680 muffin or banana bread or a cake as that more 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.320 sweet addition to a lunchbox. But you know, it's not 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.399 in significant calories. It's pretty much carry hundred calories in 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.960 that bar. It's a meal. So, as I said, now, 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.600 prescribing it or using it, and to be honest, I 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.080 wouldn't have recommended this ever. I don't think, you know, aggressively, 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.440