1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: If you grew up in some parts of Europe or 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: travel there regularly, you may have seen that's breakfast biscuits 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: can be relatively common as a way to start the 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: day with a hot drink. Now, a few years ago 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: back in Australia, we started to see breakfast biscuits in 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: supermarkets as well, and they're marketed as a quick, easy 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: and healthy breakfast option. So is it actually possible that 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: a sweet biscuit could be part of a healthy start 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: to the day. Hi, I'm Susie Burrows and I'm Lean Wood, 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: and as two of Australia's leading dieticians who specialize in 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: evidence based nutrition, we bring you the Nutrition Couch Product Review, 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: a weekly chat on new products and old favors that 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: you can find in supermarkets. Now, Leanne, I've got an 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: interesting story about breakfast biscuits because I've mentioned before on 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: the potty that I lived with Italians when I was 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: at university Northern Italians, and it was absolutely normal for 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Nonna to start the day with a cup of tea 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: before even her coffee, and she would buy Italian biscuit 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: from the Italian delis. They're down in Wollongong and there's 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: quite a lot of Italians down there, and so she 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: will routinely go to the local sort of Italian grosser 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: and stock up on breakfast biscuits and down several to 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: start the day. And I certainly joined her when I 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: was eighteen nineteen at university. Now I am generally not 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: a fan of the ones in supermarket, and I'm going 26 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: to take a close look at a couple of them 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: a day. But I do know that Europeans routinely have 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: this as they start of the day, and they start 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: sort of with that, and then they'll go to a 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: hot meal in the day. What do you think have 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: you seen it much in your practice or with people before, 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: sort of having piscotti or biscuits as a breakfast. 33 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: Not so much piscotti, but I do I do haven't 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: had a couple of clients who are using these more so, 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: and particularly if I've ever had clients with young sort 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: of young teenagers, they send them to school with these 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: things because you know, the kids are like, oh, I'm 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: not hungry, but they're like, we should eat something or 39 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: take something with you. So I do find a lot 40 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: of parents use this for teenagers who don't want well 41 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: aren't hungry, or maybe it's not coolty breakfast, whatever the reason, 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: they do sort of use these, But I must be honest, 43 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: I have used these while traveling a few times, just 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: a something quick and easy to have in my handbag 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: if I'm overseas and I'm sort of traveling around, particularly 46 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: when I travel through parts of Asia, and I just 47 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: think it's very traditional in Asian cuisine to have more 48 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: like you know, the meat and the veggie in the 49 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: noodle for breakfast. And I'm very much like a I 50 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: like a light of sort of breakfast. If I'm not 51 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: going to have my eggs on toast or something, I 52 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: would rather prefer something like a poroje or a cereal 53 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: or something. So I just can't sort of stomach meat 54 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: and veggie at that sort of time in the morning, 55 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: so I do if I've traveled through parts of Asia, 56 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: I have sort of just stashed these in my handbag 57 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: that or like a protein bar, so I have doubled 58 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: with them occasionally, But I definitely wouldn't say that they're 59 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: as healthy as what they are marketed, and even particularly 60 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: the fiber. You know, they're marketed as these like wonderful 61 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: replacements to breakfast, but I think for the right person potentially, 62 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: you know, for our young athletes and people with higher requirements, 63 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: I think they could be a good option. But I 64 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: think for the large majority of ossies who are looking 65 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: to lose weight, I mean, let's see, right, let's review them. 66 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: Well, okay, I've chased two just to quick look. The 67 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: first one that I had to look at is the 68 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: very well known brand and it was probably the first 69 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: one to market here in Australia is the bel Vita 70 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: Breakfast biscuits. They're in the yellow packet. Now, I'm pretty 71 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: sure they're actually in the biscuit section. I don't think 72 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: they're in the cereal section. From memory and I've chosen 73 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of them lean, there's like sort 74 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: of Natella ones with chocolate in them. There's chocolate varieties, 75 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: there's minis in. 76 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: Mini packs, there's a cranberof lavor. 77 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've just chosen this sort of traditional, larger ones. 78 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: These ones are called milk and cereals. They're an overseas product. Actually, 79 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: they're made in France, and this is the exact one 80 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: you'll find overseas. They're not made here in Australia, so 81 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: they're imported. They retail for four dollars fifty for force packets, 82 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: six in for six biscuits, six in there, six mini 83 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: packs and then the sorry, the mini packs have each 84 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: got that's right, they're fifty grams in it. Yes, that's 85 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: three hundred grams, so they're fifty grams and they've got 86 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: four individual biscuits, and there's six packs per four dollars 87 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: fifty Now per serve. That gives us about two hundred 88 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: and twenty calories per serve, nine hundred kilodel four grams 89 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: of protein. So if I was comparing it, and eggs 90 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: got about eight to ten grams of protein per egg, 91 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: and a bowl of oats with milk would have about 92 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: ten twelve grams of protein, so that's less than a 93 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: third of those serves. Total fat seven grams, and there 94 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: is less than just on three percent saturated fat, so 95 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: eleven percent fat overa also not a low fat option. 96 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: Carbohydrate thirty three point seven grams, so that's two decent 97 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: slices of breadworth of carbohydrate, ten point one grams of sugar, 98 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: so eleven percent sugars in that, and they're not naturally 99 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: occurring sugars in a biscuit product. We'll take a closer 100 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: look at the ingredients in a second, but it's not 101 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: like lactose naturally occurring in dairy or fructose naturally occurring 102 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: in fruit. These are added sugars. Three point four grams 103 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: of dietary fiber. Now that is what we would define 104 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: as a server fiber, but certainly much lower than what 105 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: I would like people to get in a couple of 106 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: slices of whole grain bread, which should be closer to 107 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: eight at least, and in a good quality breakfast cereal 108 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: six to eight, so again about half the dietary fiber. 109 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 1: Keep in mind this is a fifty gram small serve 110 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: of a food for breakfast, and one hundred and ninety 111 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: seven milligrams of sodium, so you know, pretty low in general. 112 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: I guess it's not lovely loaf for biscuits low, but 113 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: it's not a huge amount of sodium. Made in France. 114 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: The product, so the cereal component that say lists of cereals, 115 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: which is something sort of referred to more overseas than 116 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: traditionally on labels here in Australia, but that basically refers 117 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: to the grain or the starch content. So this is 118 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: a wheat flour forty eight percent, which is not a 119 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: whole wheat flour, so that is a refined sauce. It's 120 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: twenty five percent of that is whole grain cereal, which 121 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: is a good thing, you know, that's adding to the fiber. 122 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: It's got a mix of wheat flour, whole grain oat flakes, 123 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 1: buckwheat grits, barley flour, whole grain rye flour, whole grain 124 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: spelt flour. The next ingredient is sugar, so as we said, 125 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: it's added sugar and vegetable oil and hasten to say 126 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: it's likely palm bulking agent, milk, solids raising agents, mineral 127 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: mineral salt, mulsifier, soy, lethus, and flavors. So it contains wheat, oats, barley, 128 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: ryece spelt, milk, and soy. Now we could talk. You know, 129 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: it's a biscuit. I don't know. I can't. I struggle 130 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: to find anything positive nutritionally in this product. And the 131 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: issue I have with it is that they're sort of 132 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: aggressively marketed as a breakfast item. There's a whole range 133 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: of them. There's chocolate, as I said, there's one field 134 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: sort of with chocolate spread you know, this is to 135 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: me lean there's nothing that mimics breakfast in this product 136 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: which is called a breakfast product, and I have fundamental 137 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: issues with that. Now, admittedly it's not an Australian made product. 138 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: This is a big brand overseas. It's very well recognized, 139 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: so it's sort of an imported product that's brought to 140 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: this market. I guess to test it out in a way, 141 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: and there's perhaps a demand for it, but I think 142 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: that it's really misleading to call it breakfast because to me, 143 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: there's nothing that mimics a well balanced breakfast, which would 144 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: include a decent source of protein, much better profile of carbohydrate, 145 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: much higher amount of fiber, much less added sugar. So 146 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: I think it's really quite misleading and I'm not a fan. 147 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: I don't recommend them and I don't use them. 148 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no healthy fat in there either. Yeah. Really, 149 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you'd have to be pretty specific 150 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: with the type of person, and right, I think sort 151 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: of young athletes who are I don't know, maybe going 152 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: to rowing at five am in the morning or something 153 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: like that, where you're just looking for something quick and 154 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: easy they can eat one Mum or Dad are driving 155 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: them in the car and they jumping off and they 156 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: go into the early early morning sport. Maybe because it's 157 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: got a really good amount of sort of accessible energy. 158 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: It's got a bit of sugar in there. Maybe for 159 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: someone like a growing team, but I just don't think 160 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: for any sort of adult, whether you're trying to lose 161 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: weight or not. This is, as you mentioned, Susie, any 162 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: sort of nourishment. Really we're missing a good serve of 163 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: healthy bad. It's the carbo hydrate load's not too bad, 164 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: but the addition of the carbohydrate it's not great. The 165 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: sugars are pretty high, the protein's pretty low. I mean, 166 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: it's pretty affordable if you're looking for some positives. Four 167 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: dollars fifty for six packets. It's that's on a dollar 168 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: per serving. But there's no sustenance to that. Like if 169 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: I had that, ide'd be hungry thirty minutes later. It's 170 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: just it's not something that you would actually call anything 171 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: that's sort of well rounded or nourish as a breakfast item. 172 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: It's very much a biscuit. It's very much something that 173 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: I would rather use as a snack. So four biscuits, 174 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: like you basically have four biscuits for breakfast. There's no 175 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: other way around it. It is a biscuit, even though 176 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: to be honest, I don't market it is that it's 177 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: called Belvita Breakfast milk and cereals, So as you said, 178 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: they're heavily marketed as breakfast. I don't call it a biscuit, 179 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: but let's be honest, it's a biscuit. There's no other 180 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: way around. 181 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: It, and it's in the biscuit aisle. I'm pretty sure 182 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: as well. I'm actually surprised they've survived this long. They've 183 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: been around a while. I'm surprised because I don't I'm 184 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: just thinking who buys them, Like, I'm actually just surprised. 185 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: It's so hard in supermarket to survive, let alone this long. 186 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: Someone's buying it. But I think even for athletes there's 187 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: better options, you know what I mean, Like there's musli 188 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: bars and breakfast bars that are much better nutritionally than 189 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: that product. So yeah, as I said, I really struggle 190 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: to find anything decent to say about it at all. 191 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: But you know, it's just interesting what survives overseas and 192 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: what's popular there, because certainly that whole model of cereals 193 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: in the morning is very common initially in Europe. 194 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: If I look at the front of packet marketing, like 195 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: if I hadn't turned it over, looked at the nutrition label, 196 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: looked at the ingredient list, I would probably think that 197 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: that is a better option than a museally by just 198 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: based on the front of pack marketing, I would think 199 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: that that's a plain product I could give my kids 200 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: and it would be healthy. I think it's low sugar, 201 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: says milk and cereal. I would probably assume that there's 202 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: some added sort of calcium or something in there. If 203 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: I just took it on front of pack marketing alone, 204 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: I honestly would probably say that that is a healthy 205 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: product that I think a lot of parents would give 206 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: to their children. I honestly believe that, and I think 207 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: that's who is supporting this and buying these products, and 208 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: that's probably why it's really lasted so long. 209 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: And that's why it's misleading. Yeah, it's misleading, and that's 210 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: and doing the mini packs is terrible because it encourages 211 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: parents to buy those for kids. As soon as you 212 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: see minis that's what people pack in lunchboxes and for 213 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: kids for snacks. And you're absolutely right if you're marketing 214 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: or positioning as a breakfast item, you would assume a 215 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: certain level of calcium in or dairy base. Now at 216 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: least if you're formulating a product like that, adds some 217 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: fortify it, puts some begrit vitamins in, put some extra 218 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: dietary fiber in, puts add some calcium to it, and 219 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: then from annutrition perspective, we could model with that and 220 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: potentially use it for fussy eaters to tick some nutrient boxes. 221 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: But it's not even fortified. So to me, it's like, 222 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, not only are you positioning in a breakfast space, 223 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: but you're not providing some of the key nutrients we 224 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: would expect with breakfast and then you're not even bothering 225 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: to fortify it a bit. So yeah, I really sort 226 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: of struggle with it how it survives here in general, 227 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: And certainly, you know, I often see little kids at 228 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: the park, you know, with plain milk type biscuits because 229 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: I think, I don't know where that comes from either, 230 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: but I guess if the biscuit's got milk in the title, 231 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, you could be forgiven for thinking it's a 232 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: source of dairy. So you know, you can see how 233 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: busy parents so trying to make good choices, and they 234 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: see that and they think, oh, well, that's going to 235 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: be better than you know, a sweet biscuit or a 236 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: chocolate nut thing, you know, so they grab it. But yeah, 237 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to cover them today because I 238 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: thought it's a really interesting product to discuss for those reasons. 239 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: Maybe they're meant to be drunk with a glass of milk, right, 240 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: because then at least you'd be getting a little bit 241 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: more calcium, a little bit more protein in there as well. 242 00:10:59,360 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: Maybe. 243 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, overall, I think it's definitely it's not 244 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 2: a total red light for me, but it's definitely not 245 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: a green light either. I'd call it sort of orange. 246 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: I'd think have with caution and for the right type 247 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: of person. Maybe, I think definitely having it with a 248 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: glass of milk would boost up the nutrition of that product, 249 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: particularly using it as breakfast. 250 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 1: If you did it, if you had it with a 251 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: glass of milk, you're closer to three hundred cow You're 252 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: getting fourteen grams of protein depending on that. If you're 253 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: having full creep milk, that you're getting twenty grams of fat, 254 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: but then you're adding you know, you're getting close to 255 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: fifty grams of carb there, which is an insignificant for 256 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: children or adults, you know, So I yeah, I really 257 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: struggle to place it. And as I said, I certainly 258 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: don't use it, but there's a lot of them. So 259 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: as I said, it's hard in supermarkets, so it's probably 260 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: we do this segment just to try and wade through 261 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: the rubbish that can be out there or just the 262 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: confusion that can be out there for busy people. So 263 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: the other one I've chosen is the Uncle Toby's Breakfast Bake. Now, 264 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: I actually did some work with this product when it 265 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: launched a few years ago, and I'll share wye at 266 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: a second, because it's probably not something I would do 267 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: as much now, but i'll share why I did it 268 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: at the time. So it's six dollars fifty for six 269 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: so straight away, and that to me suggests it's higher 270 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: quality because inevitably in supermarket, if it's relatively cheat you 271 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: put inexpensive, it's probably not as high quality. You do 272 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: pay more for high quality food. I just saw strawberries 273 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: at ten dollars a punt, which kind of sums it up. 274 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: So this is in the breakfast section, though these Uncle 275 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: Toby's under the oats ranges in the breakfast section at rate, 276 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: it's got four and a half health Star rating. Now 277 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: we've spoken about the pros and cons of that before, 278 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: but it is rated relatively high based on the overall 279 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: profile a service sixty five gram so it's a heavy bar. 280 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: It's quite substantial, and the calories reflect that. You know, 281 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: it's almost three hundred calories per bar, so it's got 282 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: some serious weight to it for busy, potentially active people 283 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: who need a good energy hit in the morning. Our 284 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: protein is not overly high, close to six grams per serve. 285 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: The fat is ten point two grams, again not insignificant, 286 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: but the saturated fat's very low, suggesting that the fats 287 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: are coming from better sources, and we'll take a closer 288 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: look at that in a second. Similar amount of hydrate 289 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: of the bel beta at thirty three point eight and 290 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: seven point five grams of sugar at eight percent, so 291 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: not insignificant. Again, seven point four grams dietary fiber though, 292 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: so just over twice what you're getting in the bel 293 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: beta range and much lower sodium coming in. It's just 294 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: fifty so it contains. When I'm looking whole grain oats 295 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: fifty three percent, so half of it's got an oat base. 296 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: Next ingredients glucose, so aget an, added sugar, chicker root fiber. 297 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: Now we'll talk about that the second because we've both 298 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: got thoughts on it. To get that fiber content up, 299 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: sunflowur oil, honey, five percent roasted almond, so there is 300 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: a nut proportion to it, which is where they're getting 301 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: some of those good fats from. Second source of sugar 302 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: and brown sugar almond meal, again improving the fat ratio. Actually, 303 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: that's the third source of added sugar. Let's go glucose, 304 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: honey and then brown sugar, glicerine. Just to bind it 305 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: a little bit, Tapioca starch another source of added sugar, 306 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: wheat protein minerals adding some calcium to that, even though 307 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: they haven't listed calcium on the label, which is interesting. 308 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: Flavor a mulsifier eyed ied sole mineral salt. It's very 309 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: low amounts given the overall sodium. So is this one 310 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: that much better? Now? At the time I did this, 311 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: it was because it was marketed to kids who didn't 312 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: eat breakfast as a better alternative based on the whole 313 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: greater content. Now, I did it at the time it 314 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: was two or three years ago. I probably wouldn't do 315 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: it now because as I've got a bit older and 316 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: doing a lot more of this stuff, I have to 317 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: be a lot stricter. But I did do it at 318 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: the time because for non breakfast eaters, I would argue 319 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: that this is slightly better, but is it gold standard? 320 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: No? 321 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: And as I said, I probably wouldn't do it again now. 322 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: But nutritionally it is better than the bell Beta biscuit, 323 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: I believe. But the only people that I would now 324 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: prescribe this too is probably my busy active teens and 325 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: young athletes who need a good amount of energy in 326 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: the morning and can get away with that kind of 327 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: added sugar in the diet. So yeah, I sort of 328 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: would give it. Say I'd give the Belveta four or 329 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: five out of ten, and i'd give this probably seven. 330 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what, do you think? 331 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: Maybe low, only because I know that a lot of 332 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: my breakfast eaters, like, if you're going to be someone 333 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: that eats breakfast, they're hungry, and this is not a 334 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: volume dense food. This is not something work. I mean, 335 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: I could probably eat this bake or this bar, whatever 336 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: you want to call it into its three mouthfuls, like 337 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: it's not a large amount of food. Yes, So for me, 338 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: just from a fat loss perspective, this isn't ideal because 339 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: I think people will just feel hungry or just that 340 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: mind you know how you need a good portion of 341 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: food in front of your eyes, need to see a 342 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: good portion of food to even feel full to begin with, 343 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: if that makes sense, Like you want to feel like 344 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: you're eating a decent amount of food, and when you're 345 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: just munching on something that's basically musually bar for breakfast, 346 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: I just wouldn't feel satisfied. I'd probably be looking for 347 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: something within an hour. That's me personally, and I know 348 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: a lot of my clients are the same. We really 349 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: work in building volume, dense meals for them. So I 350 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: think the right type of person, as you said, someone 351 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: who's super busy or maybe doesn't eat breakfast but probably should. 352 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: You know, the person that tends to skip breakfast because 353 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: they're so busy, but then over eats later on, perhaps 354 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: this is something for them. So definitely the ingredient list 355 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: is a bit better. The amount of fiber in there, 356 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: some of that coming from the rolled oach, a large 357 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: bulk that's also coming from the chickery root fiber. We 358 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: don't tolerate that very well, Susie and I together. It's 359 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: in a lot of breakfast products. It's what they used 360 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: to sort of not artificially, but to add in extra 361 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: fiber to a lot of breakfast based cereals, protein bars, cereals, 362 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: that sort of thing. So it makes me very very gassy, 363 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: and I just don't tolerate. I get terrible cramps with it. 364 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: But if you're wondering why you do struggle with a 365 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: lot of these bars and cereal based products, take a 366 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: look at the label, because I'm and a lot of 367 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: my clients actually struggle with chickory root fiber as well. 368 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: But the interesting thing I saw on the front of 369 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: pack label, Susie, is that the glacemic index. So this 370 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: is obviously something that they're marketing at diabetics. So it's got, 371 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: you know, the equivalent of two slices of better than there. 372 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: I think two slices bread with some eggs and a 373 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: good quality factor and some vegetables as well to slow 374 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: down the digestion all of that carbohydrate would be a 375 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: much better choice if I was a diabetic. This is 376 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,359 Speaker 2: definitely not something that I would recommend for my diabetics. 377 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: But of course it's going to be a better option 378 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: than if you were a diabetic and you had, you know, 379 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: three of four Scots fingers with your copper morning coffee. 380 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: This would yet probably be a better option. So it's 381 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 2: really it's maybe the better of a bad bunch. I 382 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: don't know. It's not definitely not my favorite type of 383 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 2: breakfast option, but I think young teens, busy athletes, people 384 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: with high requirements, people who are too busy to eat 385 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: anything and just want to munch something quickly to get 386 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 2: something in to prevent that over eating later on, perhaps 387 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: it could be a good option. But definitely, nutrition profile 388 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: Wiles is absolutely better than the bell be bars. I 389 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: would definitely say that. 390 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: And you know, when I'd use it, I wouldn't even 391 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: use it for breakfast. I'd use it like as an 392 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: afternoon snack on the go when you need something kind 393 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: of where kids are hungry and they're looking for something. 394 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: It's going to be a million times better than a 395 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: muffin or banana bread or a cake as that more 396 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: sweet addition to a lunchbox. But you know, it's not 397 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: in significant calories. It's pretty much carry hundred calories in 398 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: that bar. It's a meal. So, as I said, now, 399 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: prescribing it or using it, and to be honest, I 400 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't have recommended this ever. I don't think, you know, aggressively, 401 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: because I don't do athletes or young kids very often. 402 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: But if I had a tea age, you know, swimmer 403 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: or rugby player and they were looking for ways to 404 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: get calories in easily, I'd use it then. But because 405 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't see many of those people, I certainly don't 406 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: prescribe it to any of my women who have that 407 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: loss and weight losses a goal, and I certainly don't 408 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: prescribe it to any of my insul and resistant pre 409 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: diabetic women with that carbohydrate load. So yeah, I think 410 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: that there's a specific potential market for it, and it's 411 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: certainly better than Belvita, But I think that it's a 412 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: very specific product for that similar up and go group 413 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: who perhaps can process that amount of energy and need 414 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: the calories. But that's certainly not the clients that I'm 415 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: communicating or seeing in my day to day work. Agreed, 416 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: pretty harsh and good breakfast biscuits, But I think sometimes 417 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: it's better to have it said you know Leanne and 418 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: I are honest and that's why you listen. So any 419 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: thoughts anything we've mislet us know. But that does bring 420 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: us to the end of the Nutrition Couch product review 421 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: for another week. If you haven't done so already, please 422 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 1: subscribe to have this delivered tea in box every Sunday 423 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: and Wednesday morning. 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