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Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS.

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Speaker 1: Oh now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Daily OS. It's Thursday, the twenty third of January.

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Speaker 2: I'm Billy, I'm emma.

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Speaker 1: There have been several anti Semitic attacks in Sydney in

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Speaker 1: the past three months, which has led to governments and police,

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Speaker 1: as well as leaders of other faiths uniting to condemn,

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Speaker 1: investigate and press charges against those responsible. This week, Prime

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Speaker 1: Minister Anthony Albanesi announced a national database to track antismitic

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Speaker 1: crime following a meeting with the National Cabinet. At the

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Speaker 1: same time, the Australian Federal Police has announced it is

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Speaker 1: investigating if overseas actors or individuals have paid local criminals

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Speaker 1: in Australia to carry out some of these crimes in

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Speaker 1: our suburbs. Well tell you what you need to know

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Speaker 1: in today's podcast, Billy.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, there have been several anti Semitic attacks

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Speaker 2: in Sydney, even in Melbourne in recent months. We've seen

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Speaker 2: a real increase in these kinds of hate crimes. It's

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Speaker 2: moved into a national conversation now which we're going to

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Speaker 2: unpack today. But what's the latest on these attacks? There

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Speaker 2: was more this week. What can you tell us?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So on Tuesday, just before one am so overnight,

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Speaker 1: emergency services were called to a childcare center in Marubra. Now,

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Speaker 1: of these anti Semitic attacks have taken place, and the

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Speaker 1: Eastern suburbs is also where a lot of Sydney's Jewish

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Speaker 1: and it was lit on fire, and the center's walls

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Speaker 2: And that childcare center, I think it's important to add,

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Speaker 2: It just happened to be located next to a synagogue exactly.

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Speaker 1: And an investigation into who is responsible for that attack

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Speaker 1: to Prime Minister Anthony Alberzi during that press conference, who

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Speaker 1: also added, this is a place for children and families

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Speaker 1: and horrifying crime. And like we've mentioned, Emma, this was

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Speaker 2: You've mentioned there is this ongoing investigation by police into

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Speaker 2: to overall with these string of offenses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there are multiple different they call them operations

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Speaker 1: Force per last December to investigate these anti Smitic attacks.

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Speaker 1: Since then, nine people have been charged, and that includes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, police and government officials have both said multiple times

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Speaker 2: And so this kind of all culminated in this announcement

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Speaker 2: I can remember one of the more recent national Cabinet

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Speaker 2: And I think this is a really interesting part of

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Speaker 1: So we don't know too much detail. I would say

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Speaker 2: So groups or individuals overseas potentially coordinating with people here

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Speaker 1: Play exactly, And they said that one line of inquiry

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Speaker 1: encouraged to commit anti Semitic attacks. They're also looking into

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting because of course we're talking more and

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It kind of speaks to this new age of

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Speaker 1: weaponized to carry out crime. Prime Minister Anthony Alberizi also

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Speaker 2: So we've seen this spate of anti Semitic attacks arise

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Speaker 2: Sydney's also dealt with increased Islamophobia, is that right?

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Speaker 1: And that was also not an isolated incident. There has

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Speaker 1: For example, last December police investigated islamophobic graffiti in chester Hill. So,

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Speaker 2: With this concern around it increase in these hate crimes,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So last year the federal government announced two new

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Speaker 1: then in September after Malik was announced as a Special

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Speaker 1: said he doesn't intend to quote advocate that one form

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Speaker 2: Billy, thank you so much for breaking that down for

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Speaker 2: us today and explaining everything that's going on in Sydney

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