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Speaker 1: This is jem Nation with.

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Speaker 2: Ronchie Marshall when he had to head with his show

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Speaker 2: best friend Darren McMullin on the Celebrity point Is Grand

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Speaker 2: Final last night and he won. It looked like such

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Speaker 2: hard work. He hosted an amazing event raised nearly half

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Speaker 2: a million dollars. This is extraordinary for his charity, South's Cares.

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Speaker 2: He joins us. Now, Benji Halla.

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Speaker 3: What an introduction? Well, I haven't had an introduction like

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Speaker 3: that since I think I made my debut.

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Speaker 2: You deserve the best. This job, This show looks so

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Speaker 2: hard because not only do you have to come up

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Speaker 2: with creative ideas and put yourself against other people, but

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Speaker 2: you've got to hit people up for money. That's not

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Speaker 2: an easy thing to do.

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Speaker 3: Well, my worst trait that I could honestly say is

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Speaker 3: I find it hard to ask people for money, Like

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Speaker 3: it is so hard. And then as soon as you

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Speaker 3: flick the switch and you talk and say it's charity,

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Speaker 3: then it makes it a lot easier because I think

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Speaker 3: most people who have a heart, they understand, okay, what's

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Speaker 3: about charity, and they'll try and either don't something, or

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Speaker 3: if they are in a position to give money, they

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Speaker 3: usually do so. Harder than that, though, was dealing with

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Speaker 3: terrible people that was worse, people who had other agendas

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Speaker 3: on the show.

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Speaker 1: I've watched Celebrity Apprentice from day one, and I've noticed

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Speaker 1: the new dynamic with the reality TV stars that were

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Speaker 1: on the show. You had Ronnie and Beck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, They're started to have these.

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Speaker 1: Alliances, and I've never seen this on the show.

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Speaker 3: I think some people lost track of why we're actually there.

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Speaker 3: I think they were worried about just them winning or

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Speaker 3: about personally succeeding. But we're there for charity, you know,

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Speaker 3: and I think some of them probably lost track of that.

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Speaker 3: But I actually had a couple of really bad days

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Speaker 3: where I'll tell you what, if they were on a

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Speaker 3: footy team, I would have probably strangled them or something,

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Speaker 3: you know, like they were doing some funky things. But

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Speaker 3: once you or once I accepted, Okay, well they're famous

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Speaker 3: for being on reality TV. They're doing the stuff because

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Speaker 3: they're trying to play a role on the show that

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Speaker 3: they probably think is going to be great. Once I

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Speaker 3: accepted that, I could get past all there be that

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Speaker 3: they were doing. Sure, you know, and that just probably

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Speaker 3: helped me because they were doing some really crazy thing.

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Speaker 2: One of the hard skills that you'd have to have too,

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Speaker 2: is to be honest about people when you're in that

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Speaker 2: boardroom situation. Coming from a football background, did that help

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Speaker 2: because you all have to call each other out I'm

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Speaker 2: imagining on a team sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I thought I had a bit of an advantage.

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Speaker 3: Were going in there. I didn't think I knew much

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Speaker 3: about business. I didn't think that I was going to

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Speaker 3: go very well. But once it dawned on me that

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Speaker 3: were working in teams and in the team dynamic, a

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Speaker 3: lot of people had never been in a team before,

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Speaker 3: so they were very individual focused and not trying to

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Speaker 3: get themselves fired, which in turn made them get fired

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Speaker 3: because they weren't working for the team. So I thought

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Speaker 3: I had a little bit of an advantage there. And

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Speaker 3: my way has always been to be upfront and honest,

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Speaker 3: and if I think you're an idiot, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 3: Or if I think you've done the worst job and

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Speaker 3: you deserve to get fired, well I'll say that too,

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Speaker 3: you know. And then that way, I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: stab people in the back. And then when we do

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Speaker 3: those little interview things, I didn't stab anyone in the

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Speaker 3: back because what I said there, I said, to their face, you.

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Speaker 1: Had true love for Darren McMullen, and when he had

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Speaker 1: his heart issue, Darren's all right, by the way he was.

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Speaker 1: That didn't really clear up what was the.

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Speaker 3: Well, they didn't give a lot of context to that situation.

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Speaker 3: So we'd been working two weeks straight without a break,

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Speaker 3: no days off to the early hours of the morning,

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Speaker 3: and I spoke to Darren the night before and he

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Speaker 3: just told me about I don't know if you saw

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Speaker 3: the episode about his dog getting cancer, his dog was

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Speaker 3: really sick and his dad had been really sick, and

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Speaker 3: he was he was saying some things to me where

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Speaker 3: I was thinking, geez, I hope he's okay tonight. And

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Speaker 3: then and then I didn't text back that night before

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Speaker 3: because I went to bed with the kids. And then

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Speaker 3: in the morning he just wasn't there, and I was

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Speaker 3: just assuming something really bad had happened to him because

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Speaker 3: no one would tell me what was going on, and

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Speaker 3: the friendship that we built up, I just got really

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Speaker 3: emotional because I was just hoping, like maybe I missed

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to see if he was okay on the

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Speaker 3: phone the night before, and but that never got given context.

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Speaker 1: Now, well, you could see. It really wore on you there,

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Speaker 1: and for wow, that's this show puts you through the ringer.

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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people that have been.

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Speaker 1: I know Amanda really wants to go on it next year.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't handle it. And also, had we've had Lord

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Speaker 2: Sugar on this show, he did, he hated us and

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Speaker 2: he said, You've got the wrong person. What am I

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Speaker 2: doing here? Is him being so abrasive and unattractive with

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Speaker 2: his personality? Is that an actor?

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Speaker 1: Is that him?

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Speaker 3: I think he's pretty genuine to the way he is,

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Speaker 3: That's how he is. But he actually tried really hard

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Speaker 3: to make a lot of jokes and light of a

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Speaker 3: lot of things, you know, and for someone who's probably

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Speaker 3: as rich as what he is, he doesn't really act

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Speaker 3: that way at the show. He didn't anyway, And because

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Speaker 3: he was mate of Russell Crowe, I think he liked me.

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Speaker 3: I played itself, of course, so I think I had

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a different relationship with him. But

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Speaker 3: I always said the truth to him too, Like if

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Speaker 3: I didn't like things he'd say, I'd call about. It's

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Speaker 3: about people, and if you treat everyone the same, to me,

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Speaker 3: we are the same. And I think some people mix

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Speaker 3: that up on like during the show.

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Speaker 1: Well, you truly show on the show congratulate South's cares.

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Speaker 1: You made so how much money did you raise?

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Speaker 3: It? It was like, well, I raised I raced three hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty seven. They gave me one hundred for winning,

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Speaker 3: and I raised sixty during the show, and then about

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Speaker 3: another fifty came in after the show that wasn't paid

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Speaker 3: before the event, that didn't come That's.

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Speaker 2: An extraordinary legacy.

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Speaker 1: Benji.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Yes, what are you going to do now? Take a breather.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have it. I don't have time, mate, you're busy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: my only day or Sunday at the moment, I'm just

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Speaker 3: working on Fox Sports at the moment.

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Speaker 1: You like the Lord, you got Sunday off and that's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I need time for the kids. I think

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Speaker 3: I need a few more days off. I need to

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Speaker 3: play golf gun place. Yeah that's me.

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Speaker 2: We give you permission.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to my wife. Yeah, good luck, Benji.

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Speaker 1: It's always great to talk to you. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Thanks guys,