1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day ignites debate about 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: what I eat in a day trend Ruby Tuesday, Matthew's 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: house is targeted by a gang of thieves and Saffron 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Barker catches up with her ex. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: Pop culture news twice a week. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm Sophie Torba and over the weekend, Sophie Guidland has 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: ignited rumors of a secret wedding to fitness coach Nicholas White. Now, 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: the couple only hard launched their relationship a few weeks ago, 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: and she has hinted in a YouTube video. 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: That the pair are now married. 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: So in this video, while she was showing off her 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: body building trophies, she casually referred to Nicholas as her husband. 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: Let's throw to the clip. Do you mind I can 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: put your name on it? You could have Best Husband 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: of the Year twenty twenty four. 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: I could put your name on it and an add 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: engrave it like a little bikini girl. 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: The bread crumbing around this apparent marriage is next level 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: because it appears like Sophie is wearing a wedding band 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: in this vision and in other vision on an Instagram story, 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: she is showing off her left hand with what appears 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: to be a ring on it as well. She is 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: making no secret about this marriage. Nicholas was also wearing 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: a matching wedding band in another Instagram story, so it's 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: almost like they are trying to get everyone's attention. It's 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: funny how whenever there's an influencer relationship that's in the spotlight, 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: you actually see the influencer's hand so much. Yes, just 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: thinking about Tammy Henbury in every real and every Instagram story. 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes she's got the ring on, sometimes she's 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: got the ring off. Do you think they do it 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: for engagement? Oh, definitely, because it's their comment section gets 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: filled up with people speculating about their lives, and it's 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: a way that they stay relevant. As someone who is married, 35 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm always taking my rings on and off, like particularly 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: if I'm cooking or doing the dishes. However, you would 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: think that if your relationship was in the spotlight, you 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: would make a conceited effort to keep those rings on 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: when you're filming. 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: I just love how ballsy it is that she's just 41 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: such roped. 42 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: Oh, husband of the Year Award as well, because surely 43 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: she knows everyone is going to be talking about this, 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: and her followers have gone crazy over this tidbit of 45 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: information because Sophie and Nicholas have only been together since Descend, 46 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: but that's the first time we saw them appear publicly 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: on a holiday in New South Wayes. I mean, there 48 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: are still question marks about what their relationship was actually like. 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: Some people said that maybe they're just friends, but it 50 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: has been kept very low profile. That was until Nicholas 51 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: actually appeared in Sophie's YouTube video and that was when 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: she spoke about her breast explant surgery. However, he was 53 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: seen like his hand was seen passing her over flowers. 54 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: It wasn't like it was a big hard launch of 55 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: his face. However, of course all her followers have gone 56 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: and found out who he is on Instagram well, because 57 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: anytime these influences they try and soft launch with the 58 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, the boyfriend's hand just appearing in the video. 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: They always have these really distinctive tattoos and it's so 60 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: easy for the followers to go and find out. 61 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: Who the guy is. 62 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: Now, if this is true, it is rather interesting timing 63 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: because it comes thirteen months after Sophie ended her marriage 64 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: to Gold Coast dentist doctor Andrew Now. The couple separated 65 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: after just four months of marriage on a very difficult 66 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: and sad term. So this was after their daughter Pixie 67 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: was sadly delivered stillborn, and Sophie and Andrew had a 68 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: really well winned relationship, just like Sophie appears to have 69 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: with Nicholas, because they dated for less than a year 70 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: before getting married in Byron Bay in November twenty twenty two, 71 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: and shortly after they announced they were expecting a baby. 72 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: The difference is though she was friends with doctor Andrew 73 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: for over ten years, so we're not sure if it's 74 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: a similar situation where she has known Nicholas for a 75 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: long time. These relationships have been very different though, although 76 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: they've both been very quick. Sophie was very public about 77 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: her relationship with Andrew. We saw this epic proposal that 78 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: was filmed by a videographer. She also monetized the wedding photos, 79 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: so it was a big controversy at the time because 80 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: she put them behind a paywall in order to get 81 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: subscribers on Instagram. But with Nicholas, it seems like she's 82 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: sort of dancing around the idea of one to be 83 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: ultra private but then enjoying breadcrumbing everyone in order to 84 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: get engagement on her YouTube channel. But maybe that's why 85 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: she has just subtly dropped it because of all the 86 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: backlash she copped last time for monetizing it. I mean, 87 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: if you look at them, but if you look at 88 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: her strategy, it's been to be a bit more real 89 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: and honest on her YouTube channel. She's chosen this real 90 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: doco style way now of presenting some of her But 91 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it is real and honest amy because 92 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: it's more like standing back from it. Like I think 93 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: it's more so she's probably got married, didn't want to 94 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: share it with anybody, and now she's thought, fuck, I 95 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of need to mention it to my followers. I'm 96 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: just going to suddenly drop it, and I don't want 97 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: to make this huge deal. I think she is making 98 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: a big effort for it to seem different to the 99 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: other relationship, and I think she has learned a lesson 100 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: about monetizing her relationship and she wants to be open 101 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: with her audience and share Nicholas in her YouTube videos. However, 102 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: she's got to do that in a way that it 103 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: doesn't look like she's just trying to monetize a new 104 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: life event. And I think we've seen, as we touched 105 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: on before, women get very heavily judged online if they 106 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: get into relationships quickly when they get engaged. I mean, 107 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro is a complete case study for that. So 108 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: I think that she's like, Oh, I'm just gonna casually 109 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: drop it and then I can just move on. The 110 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: thing I don't understand is why do you have to 111 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: rush into getting married though, Like, if there's so much 112 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: speculation about it, why do you to see how things go? 113 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean, again, it hasn't been confirmed that they are 114 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: actually married, but the rumor mill really went into overdrive 115 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: when Amber from Influencer Updates shared on Friday night that 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: an acquaintance of Nicholas reached out to her saying that 117 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: the couple got married overseas. And if this news is legit, 118 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: this is Sophie's fourth marriage. So she actually grew up 119 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: as a Jehovah's witness and she got. 120 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: Married really young. 121 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: And she also married Nathan Wallace in twenty fifteen and 122 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: of course Andrew in twenty twenty two. 123 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: So I just don't understand what the rush is. 124 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just at a point where that's just the 125 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: natural progression feach of her relationships. I mean, maybe once 126 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: you've been married three or four times, it's kind of like, well, 127 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: this is just what we do when I feel serious, 128 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: I'm in love. I wonder if it has anything to 129 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: do with the personality type that become influencers, because you 130 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: look at Tammy Hembro and she's had so many engagements, 131 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: and there's lots of other influencers who've. 132 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: Been married multiple times. Maybe it's something to. 133 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: Do with Wizard of Content arc really, because we have 134 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: spoken a lot about how influencers personal milestones like engagements, weddings, 135 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: having babies is just a great boost for their engagement. 136 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: So maybe it's just like they look at their lives 137 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: like with story arcs, and think, Okay, so I've just 138 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: got out of that marriage thirteen months ago, so if 139 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: I get into this other one, people are going to 140 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: be really excited and want to hear what I've got 141 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: to say and be engaged to what I'm talking about. 142 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: I think it's also because they have a disposable income. 143 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: To them, it's not a big deal to save up 144 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: for a wedding. I mean, I don't even this divorce 145 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: seems to have just gone through. It takes, you know, 146 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: quite a while for a divorce to come through. I 147 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: can't even imagine the logistics of planning a divorce and 148 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: then another wedd I don't think I have to plan 149 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: much for a defense, But you've still got the mental 150 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: load of having to lodge it and go through all 151 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: of that upset, and then you've already got over that 152 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: marriage and you're already into another one. 153 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: But even in quotations normal. 154 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: Life, I've never really heard of someone getting married so 155 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: often and so quickly like it does seem to be 156 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: either your celebrity like celebrities seem to do this a lot, 157 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: or influence. People are calling her the Elizabeth Taylor of 158 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: the influencer world. At the moment, I do wonder now 159 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: there is so much speculation whether Sophie's next YouTube video 160 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: is going to confirm this marriage. What I don't get 161 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: is the guys that end up marrying these people that 162 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: have publicly been engaged or married so many different times, 163 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: Because wouldn't you have alarm bells ringing and think, oh, 164 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't propose or maybe I shouldn't get into this. 165 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: I think they just get in such a love bubble. 166 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: This concept and this idea again is exciting me. 167 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has announced she's going back to her roots 168 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: and will again be sharing what she eats in a day. 169 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: The controversial influencers stopped creating this style of content after 170 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: receiving backlash, but is one of many influencers jumping back 171 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: on the trend. I literally thought we had left this 172 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: trend back in twenty ten. So did I, and as 173 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: you touched on, this trend originated on YouTube more than 174 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: ten years ago, and if you cast your mind back, 175 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: influencers would share in great detail exactly what they ate 176 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: during the day. Normally it would be ultra healthy, so 177 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: it would include a smoothie, a piece of dark chocolate 178 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, not a lot of snacking, 179 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: I have to say now, the content did form the 180 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: basis of many OG Australian influencers YouTube channels, including Sarah's Day. 181 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: Now, there was a point where everyone started. 182 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Waking up to the fact that this was very toxic 183 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: dieting messaging and it did become taboo to actually share 184 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: what you ate during the day. 185 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: However, recently it has. 186 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: Been supercharged by TikTok's algorithm and this trend has made 187 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: a massive resurgence on TikTok, clocking up billions of view 188 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day is one of those people that is back 189 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: on this trend. 190 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 2: And what really. 191 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: Annoyed me and didn't sit well with me is she 192 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: started filming this video sharing what she was eating on 193 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: her Instagram story and she said, I'm actually filming the 194 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: full video for YouTube, and she showed off this very 195 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: healthy looking salad. However, she then opened up and said 196 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: when she originally filmed this content back in twenty thirteen, 197 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: that she was in a very bad place with her eating. 198 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: Let's row to what she said. 199 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: First off, this concept and this idea again is exciting 200 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: me because I'm not like back in the day in 201 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: twenty thirteen when I would film these videos, I was 202 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: so fixated on like looking a certain way and like 203 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: being shredded and being at like low body fat, or 204 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: I was like trying to get my period back or 205 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: healing my acne. There was always a specific goal in 206 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: mind in terms of like what I was putting into 207 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: my body, Whereas now I'm thirty one, I have two children. 208 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: I'm just a stay at home mom, like trying to 209 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: work at the same time, and I'm like, I just 210 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: want to fill my body with nutrient vicious foods that 211 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: are going to give like my skin a glow, give 212 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: me energy, allow me to be regular and poop. 213 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I just you know, it really annoys me. 214 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: Because Sarah still has a lot of these toxic videos 215 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: still up on her YouTube channel, and if she's reflected 216 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: back and thought, oh, I wasn't in a good space 217 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: when I shared these, why don't you delete them? Yeah, 218 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: they're still monetized on her channel, and reading between the lines, 219 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: what she's essentially said is that her YouTube channel was 220 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: based on sharing content that promoted disordered eating. Well, it 221 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: gets worse because she then went on to say that 222 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: the main reason she stopped filming this type of content 223 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: is because of the backlash she received, and also because 224 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: these videos were having a negative impact on the way 225 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: that she was eating and the way that she was 226 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: perceiving what she was eating. 227 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 2: Let's throw to what she said. 228 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: I didn't like watching them because I would sit back 229 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: and be like WHOA, like I eat so much? Or like, 230 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I'm like consuming double what that person consumes. 231 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: Or if there's like a really beautiful model and they 232 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: in a certain way, you subconsciously think. 233 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 2: Like can I be eating like that? 234 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: Like and never want people to watch my videos and 235 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: then feel bad about themselves or like have any kind 236 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: of negative reaction. So I fully pulled back because I 237 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: was like, I just don't want people continuing my content 238 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: and like comparing themselves. Why so yeah, I stopped doing them. 239 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: It's quite ironic because in this video she literally points 240 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: out all the issues with this style of content, but 241 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: there says, nah, I'm back on it again, like it 242 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me. And she also spoke 243 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: a lot about how it's not really authentic because she 244 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: said back in the day, she'd be so focused on 245 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: what she's actually filming that she wouldn't actually show any 246 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: of us knacks. So she said, normally as a mum, 247 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: she would grab a hand, you know, eat some of 248 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: Fox's apple, her son's apple, or you know, finish off 249 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:48,599 Speaker 1: the leftovers. 250 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: But that's obviously not very aesthetically pleasing for TikTok or 251 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: for you think that annoys me. 252 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: Is she clearly has the awareness to know that these 253 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: videos can have detrimental impacts for what peopleeople are eating 254 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: and the way that they look at food. I mean 255 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: it even had a detrimental impact on the way. 256 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: That she viewed what she was eating. Yet she is. 257 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: Happy to come back and jump back on this trend 258 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: because it's popular at the moment. 259 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: It's clearly in a bid to stay relevant. 260 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: We have spoken a lot about how Sarah's Day's YouTube 261 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: views are dropping off, how she is losing followers, She's 262 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: no longer actually on that momentum of gaining a lot 263 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: of followers, and maybe she's like, well, I've got to 264 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: convert back to what I used to do. And particularly 265 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: TikTok is playing a big role in this, because the 266 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: algorithm is favoring this type of content and it has 267 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: been proven to be serving it up directly to vulnerable 268 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: people who will consume it, and those people are people 269 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: that suffer with disordered eating or an eating disorder, and 270 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: that is so scary. It's important that we don't just 271 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: single out Sarah's Day because there are so many other 272 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: influencers who are jumping back on this trend. PR Queen 273 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: roxy Jusenko is one of these high profile Australians who 274 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,239 Speaker 1: doesn't mind giving her followers an insight into. 275 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: What she's eating. 276 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: Last week, she put up a Q and A asking 277 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: her followers to send in questions, and the majority of 278 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: questions were centered around her diet and how she stays 279 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: so thin, and she did not hold back. She was 280 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: happy to share specific details about how she curbs her cravings, 281 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: her exercise regimes, her hacks were staying. 282 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: Thin, and also even how much she weighs. 283 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: I have seen her sharing her scales so many times 284 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: on her Instagram. I was really shocked when she actually 285 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: outlined like this is my height, this is my weight. 286 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how that's helpful information for anyone. It 287 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: just makes people compare themselves to her. And when she 288 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: was asked what she eats during the day, she wrote, okay, 289 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: so this was controversial. I was doing two boiled eggs 290 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: a day and a Greek salad for dinner and the 291 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: world lost its minds on my behalf. So I have 292 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: been working with sm Nutrition and she has done a 293 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: meal plan specifically for me now. 294 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: She did share a very sad. 295 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: Looking photo of her Greek salad with this information, and 296 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: it's not like it was some massive bowl. It was 297 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: like a little plastic container. I'm glad to hear that 298 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: she's no longer eating this, but she's literally just. 299 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: Spelt out how. 300 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: You can look like her if you want to. I mean, 301 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: how many people have probably now started replication. Is looking 302 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: very fit and thin at the moment, and someone who 303 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: I assume people would find aspirational. And it is quite 304 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: disturbing because last year she opened up about how she 305 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: illegally obtained a zenpic and that is because her doctor 306 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: would not prescribe it to her, so she actually got 307 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: someone to go and get it from another state. She 308 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: paid them to drive and get it, and she ended 309 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: up overdosing on a zen pick and almost died in hospital. 310 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: So she wanted to speak out about how dangerous it is. 311 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: But it's crazy about of people who are actually on ozempick, 312 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: like people you would never actually think would be on 313 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: the drug. Well, it is really concerning because there's been 314 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: this huge cultural shift away from the slim, thick era 315 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: that we knew in the twenty tens to this ultra 316 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: slim cut ashy an esque era where they're getting the 317 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: implants removed. Everyone appears to be on ozenpick, but some 318 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: of these what eight in a day? I have seen 319 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: diet teaations or even health gurus doing them, and some 320 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: of the meals actually look very nutritious. Is there some 321 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: aspect of it that is positive or are all of 322 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: these videos just negative? Look? I actually wrote an article 323 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: on this topic for Mum and Mia this week, and 324 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: I did speak to a dietitian and nutritionist called Tanya Ferreto, 325 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: and she said, it's this whole comparison thing that is 326 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: just not helpful. So it's fine for nutritionists to share recipes, 327 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: but when you put it down into this is what 328 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: I eat in a day, people take that on board 329 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: as verbatim that they should be following it. And thanks 330 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: to TikTok, this trend is even more dangerous. I did 331 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: touch on because of the algorithm, and Tanya actually cited 332 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: this groundbreaking research from the University of Melbourne Scott Griffiths, 333 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: and she said that TikTok has been proven to actually 334 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: target users with eating disorders and the study actually found 335 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: that participants with an eating disorder were disproportionately served appearance 336 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: orientated content, with the delivery intensifying over time. And she 337 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: said that this can be extremely triggering for those people 338 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: that have had a history of disordered eating and eating disorders. 339 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: So it's very scary because this app is literally targeting 340 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: vulnerable people, and then there are influencers jumping on this 341 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: trend in a bid to stay relevant. Now, I did 342 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: have a look and TikTok they haven't banned the content. However, 343 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: they do have a disclaimer when you search the hashtag. However, 344 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: that's only on TikTok's desktop version, so it does say 345 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: you're more than your weight. If you or someone you 346 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: know has questions about body image, food or exercise, it 347 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: is important to know that help is out there and 348 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: you are not alone. If you feel uncomfortable, you can 349 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: confide in someone you trust or check out the resources below. 350 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Please remember to take care of yourselves and each other. Now, 351 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: this is a trend that we're seeing for Tanning as well. 352 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Like their solution is, oh, rather than banning this content, 353 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: we're just gonna put a bit of exclaim it. 354 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: But everyone takes. 355 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: Cover ourselves legally. Have you guys seen the videos where 356 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: it's people who eat a large amount of unhealthy food 357 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: and they love them. I do have a guilty pleasure 358 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: of watching them. There is one UK creator who does this, 359 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: and she lives off takeaway and she will probably have 360 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: four or five takeaway meals a day, and a lot 361 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: of people are asking, how can you afford this in 362 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: this economic crisis. There's a girl who just eats butter. 363 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: She eats like tubs of butter, and I do think 364 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: that is probably just as unhealthy these influencers who are 365 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: promoting it. But the only thing is it isn't packaged 366 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: up to be aspiration, although. 367 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: That's where it's actually dangerous. 368 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of more of a free people and people 369 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: aren't following it to replicate it. That they're following more 370 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: as Wow, it's shot of value and it makes them 371 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: feel better about what they're eating. But I don't necessarily 372 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: think it's that helpful. They're on a positive front. Influencer 373 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: Jade two and she actually shared about this trend and 374 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: it popped up on my feet and I was like, 375 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: oh god, as she jumped on the bandwagon. But this 376 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: is actually what she said, what I eat in a 377 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: day as a pregnant person in week thirty two, whatever 378 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: I feel like eating that day. The same goes for 379 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: when I'm not pregnant, whatever I eat it doesn't determine 380 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: what you should or shouldn't eat, and is not a 381 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: benchmark for your body and the way that it functions. 382 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: This was so refreshing because originally when I saw it, 383 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, God, like, how bad is this 384 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: that it's a pregnant video diary of what you're eating? 385 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: Because God, if I was tracking what I'm eating, no 386 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: one would want to be following it at the moment. Yeah, 387 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: that is really good of jar Day because some people 388 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: do just sit back and watch the trend and don't 389 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: actually call it out, and that can sometimes be worth worse. 390 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: At least she's using her platform to actually say this 391 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: is a bit fucked. 392 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: They were just so guns ablazing did not care. 393 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Ruby Tuesday, Matthews is becoming the queen of Neighborhood Watch. 394 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: This week, she shared CCTV vision of a gang of 395 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: youths targeting her street. 396 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: That's important to note not. 397 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: The band, but an actual legitimate group of young people. Yeah. Now, 398 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: in the vision it does show mass teenagers breaking into 399 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: her garage where her Mercedes was parked, and she wrote 400 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: in the Instagram STORYYI at Bangalore four thirty am this morning, 401 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: while sleeping our house and cars were broken into. Group 402 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: of teens are targeting Bangalore as most of our street 403 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: and surrounding streets were affected. Any information, please DM me. 404 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: She then later revealed on Instagram that every house on 405 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: the street had experienced break ins, whether it was their 406 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: car or house being broken into, so. 407 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: Pretty terrifying stuff. 408 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: This is taking me back to a couple of months 409 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: ago when Ruby shared CCTV vision from her mum's house 410 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: and it was thieves stealing this big pot and she 411 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: nicknamed it Popgate and she was calling herself constable Oystergate. 412 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: I absolutely love this side of Ruby, and I love 413 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: that she's utilizing her CCTV vision to help the neighborhood out. 414 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: I think a sponsor needs to get on board, some 415 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: sort of security company you need to partner with Ruby, 416 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: because this is absolutely gold content. It's pretty scary because 417 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: Ruby and her family were asleep when this robbery took 418 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: place and the thieves got into her garage. But she 419 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: actually didn't realize until a neighbor told her. 420 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: Let's throw to what Ruby said about the thieves. They 421 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: took like random medications, all the scripts in my car 422 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: that I had and I just don't get filled because 423 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: I'll just give you scripts into call the scripts just 424 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: the most weird am I firing my other workfone, which 425 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: am like an idiot? 426 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: Anyway, they just took the most random random stuff, like. 427 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: Left the handbag, left the wallets. 428 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: It just took. 429 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: Random cash, medicines and a few other things, but left 430 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 3: a lot of work computers. 431 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm so shocked that they didn't steal the car and 432 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: that they were just after medication. Well, Ruby thinks it's 433 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: because she has a tracking system on her car, so 434 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: maybe they realized it was on there and they wouldn't 435 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: be able to get away with it. Something similar happened 436 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: to some friends of mine recently. They had some teenagers 437 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: break into their house and they actually took their mobile phones, 438 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: their purse, and also their car, their. 439 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: Purse, sorry, how old are you fifty years old? Their wallet, 440 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: their wallet, then purse whatever, pay and. 441 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: Anyway, my friend was thinking, oh, how foolish of me 442 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: to leave my keys to the car on the whole stand, 443 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: And the police actually said sometimes it's better that way 444 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: because you don't want the robbers to go. 445 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: Trying to find in the house. 446 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: That's when they start disrupting people to start, So it 447 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: just in case I've got to leave all my valuables 448 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: in an easy to grab spot. Personally, wouldn't be that 449 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: upset if someone took my car. I feel like it 450 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: is on its last legs at the moment. There has 451 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: been a huge spike in these sorts of crimes, particularly 452 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: in Byron, with these crimes centering around car theft and 453 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: also break in, and interestingly, there has been an increase 454 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: in what they're calling post and boast, so that's when 455 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: robbers are actually filming and photographing their crime spreeze, so 456 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: they're uploading all of this to Instagram and TikTok. 457 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: Is this like the Bling Ring? 458 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's more that teenagers know that they 459 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: probably just get a slap on the wrists for doing Yeah, 460 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: that's the thing. There's nothing really that the police can 461 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: do because they're too young to throw them in prison 462 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: and they know that they know they're going to get away. 463 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: But also half the time, I mean I had my 464 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: car broken into last year, even when at l Steward 465 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: as well, I think that it's really difficult to actually 466 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: catch people in the act. 467 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: They don't have a lot of police time to look 468 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 2: into all of this. 469 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: But you also need to literally have the person on 470 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: camera taking the car. That's what yeah, Ruby's provided. And 471 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: the interesting thing is that Byne Bay is a celebrity 472 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: hot spot, so people are obviously thinking, hmm, there's a 473 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: lot of wealthy people around here that I can steal from. However, 474 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: those wealthy people actually have CCTV footage. 475 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 4: I mean I hear rumors about myself every single day, 476 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 4: like genuinely, I open TikTok. There's a new rumor. 477 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 2: UK influencers. 478 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: Saffron Barker has stunned her followers by revealing she caught 479 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: up with her ex Tyler Dixon whilst holidaying in the US. Now, 480 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: so if this isn't the ex we're expecting her to 481 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: be seeing, No, this is. 482 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 2: Very left of field. 483 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: So Saffron has just gone through a very public breakup 484 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: with new Cheese recruit Lewis Reesezamt. We have spoken about 485 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: this in detail on this podcast and when Lewis and 486 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: Saffron were together, as listeners will know, he did jet 487 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: off on an tense ten week training camp to the 488 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: US in the hopes of getting signed by an NFL team, 489 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: and Saffron was supposed to be meeting up with Lewis 490 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: in the US to celebrate, but when she found out 491 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: that he allegedly cheated on her, of course she had 492 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: to change up her trip. So she still went to 493 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: the US, but instead she visited la and Coachella with 494 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: some friends. And followers were convinced that Saffron was going 495 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: to try and catch up with Lewis while she was 496 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: over there, either to rekindle the relationship or get some closure. 497 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: But she has surprised all of us by catching up 498 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: with her previous ex, Tyler Dixon. Yeah, this was not 499 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: on my bingo card for twenty twenty four, but it 500 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: is a bit of a power move for her, particularly 501 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: because she has been so public about it. She's spoken 502 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: about it on her podcast, she spoke about it on 503 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: her YouTube channel. It's not like she's trying to keep 504 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: this a secret. They actually met during Lockdown and were 505 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: together for about a year, and he was a permanent 506 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: fixture on her YouTube channel and followers, we were very 507 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: surprised when out of the blue they seemed to call 508 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: it quits. 509 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: But following the. 510 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: Split, there were all these persistent rumors that Saffron cheated 511 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: on Tyler during a girl's trip to Dubai with none 512 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: other than Love Island's Luca Bish, and it's all very 513 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: convoluted and ancestral because Luca Bish ended up dating fellow 514 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: Love Islander Gemma Olwen, who was also rumored to have 515 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: dated Saffron's most recent ex, Lewis recent Zama, that is 516 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: such a mouthful, but it's all very weird. Yeah, And 517 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people started talking about Tyler because it 518 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: was in Dubai that Saffron found out that Lewis was 519 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: allegedly cheating on her, and people were like, oh, well, 520 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: suck shit, because you cheated on Tyler in Dubai, which 521 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: she has come out and said that is not the 522 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: case at all. It was obvious to me that Saffron 523 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: had just dropped her catching up with Tyler as a 524 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: bit of a fuck you to everyone, being like, see, 525 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: we are on good terms and I think. 526 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: And I didn't shet. Yeah. 527 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: And because she has obviously been the topic of conversation 528 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: on TikTok recently because of her split from Lewis, Riesi's 529 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: emmet and a lot of people have been saying, well, 530 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: Sefron did the same thing to her ex, so I 531 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: don't feel sorry for her. Here. It's clear that she 532 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: wants to put these rumors to bed, because she dropped 533 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: it not only on her YouTube channel, but also on 534 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: her dating podcast. Let's throw it to Safron addressing the 535 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: rumor's head on. 536 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: He just happened to be in La at the same 537 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 4: time that I was in La, so he messaged me, like, 538 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 4: I'm literally around the corner, and we went to the 539 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 4: grocery store and got erawan together. Anyways, everyone suddenly thinks 540 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 4: I'm secretly on this trip Tyler the entire time and 541 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 4: we're back together, So I just like to confirm not true. 542 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 4: But like, I literally love him. He is one of 543 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 4: the nicest people I've ever ever met, like genuinely has 544 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: the biggest heart. Like every single person that's met him 545 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 4: says how amazing he is. For some reason, there was 546 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 4: always this rumor that I had cheated on Tyler, which 547 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 4: I don't know where it's come from because I've never 548 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 4: cheated on anyone in my life, nor would I Like, 549 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 4: that's just not part of my morals at all. Basic 550 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 4: you're on social it's I never fell out with him, 551 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 4: Like nothing bad happened at all, Like literally we just 552 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 4: split for like no really reason. Like there was just 553 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I just felt like I was 554 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 4: at a different stage in my life and so did he, 555 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 4: and like that was genuinely the reason as to why 556 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 4: we split. There was nothing deeper than that. 557 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: Before Saffron had even revealed that she caught up with Tyler, 558 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: super Sluss had already connected the dots because Saffron and 559 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: Tyler shared nearly identical photos of their luck. But that's 560 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 1: not incidental either. Like the thing is that people might 561 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, maybe she had to come out 562 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: and say it, but when you're on YouTube and social 563 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: media for years like Saffron is, you know that people 564 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: are going to. 565 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: Connect those ties. 566 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: But she claimed that she wasn't following him, so she 567 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: didn't know that he'd shared it. But then it's like, 568 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: if you're not following him, then how are you on 569 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: such good We're not out to lunch with someone, even 570 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: if they're trying to do it sneakily, you know that 571 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: they're taking a photo of their food. And they were 572 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: at Saffron's favorite place, air One, which is that real 573 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: expensive soup marko. Can you imagine going there? Literally every 574 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: YouTuber is there filming, Oh what I got from Air one. 575 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you know what that stands for? 576 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: No? So backwards, it's nowhere. I just know they charge 577 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: like wounded balls for smoothies named after Haley, but it's 578 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: like forty five US dollars for fucking smoothie. 579 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: Do you know what? 580 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: I am loving though? The fact that she is dropping 581 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: these subtle fuck you's, like I am here for it. 582 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: And on her podcast she even said that Tyler is 583 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: the nicest boyfriend she's ever had, and she gushed it 584 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: that he's doing so well in life and that everyone 585 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: stand their relationship and wants them back together, which I 586 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: wonder if they potentially could get back together. Nah, she's 587 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: just using him. I think that she's played it very well. 588 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: She has put to bed rumors that she cheated. She 589 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: now looks like the good person. Lewis looks like the 590 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: bad person. 591 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: Like that. 592 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: She is touching on all of the TikTok rumors on 593 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: her podcast, because that's something that I think more influencers 594 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: need to do on their podcast because these are the 595 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: things that we want to hear about. So just pretend 596 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: rather than pretending happening, particularly because she's she's got a 597 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: dating podcast, so we actually want. 598 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: To hear about your data. 599 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: But you think that's because Spotify are involved, so they're like, 600 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: you have to talk about this. It's kind of like 601 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: the Kick Pod when they've got producers involved and like, 602 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: hang on, people just want to hear about your linse. 603 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean that being said, I do want to find 604 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: out more about what actually happened, because she's trying to 605 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: be the bigger person and not go into all of 606 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: the mercury, but we want to keep some clues, like 607 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: it's quite clear that he cheated on her allegedly. I 608 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: did a little stalk into Tyler because I haven't even 609 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: looked at his Instagram since he and Saffron broke up. 610 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: I refollowed him as soon as I heard they caught up. Well, 611 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: he's got one. 612 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: Hundred and seventeen thousand followers, so and it says on 613 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: his Instagram that he lives half in London and then 614 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: in Dubai. And he also looks like I'm not trying 615 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: to be superficial, but he's beefed up a bit. He 616 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: looks a lot better because he kind of looked a 617 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: bit little boy when they. 618 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: Were going out. 619 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: Really came from a very wealthy family to begin with. 620 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: And I think that the reason that they broke up 621 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: is because he didn't want to just be Saffron's handbag 622 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: and sit around her house with her family. 623 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: He wanted to go and do something with this. I 624 00:28:59,520 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 2: got the vie. 625 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: The Saffron's mum, Wendy wasn't a fan of his. There 626 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: seems to be some boyfriend that she didn't like. 627 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: No, it was an implication that he was too short 628 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: for her. Yeah, she always. 629 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: Kept referencing how she wanted some real six foot four 630 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: guy because they met through Instagram, and I think he 631 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: claimed he was a lot taller than he actually is. 632 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: I reckon Wendy. 633 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: Her mum is a big fan of him because they 634 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: reiterated that he's the nicest boyfriend she's ever had. I 635 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: think her terrible relationship with Lewis has confirmed to her 636 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: that he was actually a nice guy. It's funny in 637 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: hindsight when a dickhead seems like less of a dickhead. Anyway, 638 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: that is where we're going to leave things today. If 639 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: you do want to hear more content from us, though, 640 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: we do drop a subs episode every Thursday that is 641 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: exclusive to subscribers. If you aren't an Outspoken Plus subscriber. 642 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: All the details to sign up are in our show notes. 643 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the 644 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to 645 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: elders past and present.