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Speaker 2: Morning Katie and your listeners. How are you doing? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Very well? A big congratulations to you. What was your

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Speaker 2: I'm both deeply honored and humbled to receive this a

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Speaker 2: moaning award, It's amazing. I proudly accepted all abit reluctantly

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Speaker 1: Bob, I know that you do a lot really to

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Speaker 2: Well. As a lifetime volunteer, I'm dedicated to helping others

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Speaker 2: congratulations and if I were up a bit here or

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Speaker 2: get emotional, many congratulations on your most deserved award. My

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're making me feel emotional hearing you read that

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Speaker 1: And so Bob, you reckon, we need a ten bed

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely shocking. But Bob, you know what I

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. And a massive congratulations to you

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Speaker 1: Bob. Good on you.

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Speaker 2: Contact us at Veterans Australia into Mate.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you again in the near future.

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Speaker 1: Please keep in contact with us like I say, I

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