WEBVTT - Why do we hate being copied? *Unpacking Triggers* 🌶 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:03.640 I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:08.160 episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:12.360 our respects to elders past, present and emerging and extend 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:16.520 that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:24.319 Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:31.960 Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where we 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.800 ch have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.040 mix soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.280 scenes of my life running two businesses and being among 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.440 Think of us as the perfect combo of brunch with 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.639 your besties mixed with self development. 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:49.120 No matter where you. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.080 Are in your journey, We're here to help you be curious, 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.680 pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness. 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.000 If you're ready to get into. 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.560 The driver's seat of your own life and stop letting 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:12.000 life pass you by, then you're in the right place. Hi, everybody, 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.319 welcome back to the potty today. We have such a 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.959 fun self development episode for you, and it is all 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.720 about triggers. You know how much we love unpacking triggers, 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:23.520 don't we a tear? 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:24.400 We love it. 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.360 We love it, and so we actually put a call 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:28.880 out on our socials and be. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.000 Like, tell us your triggers, let's unpack them. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.640 And A Tear was like, they're actually all pretty much 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.280 the same. And it really came from this root of 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.360 if someone copies you, you being annoyed of you know, 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.199 that triggering you. And there was a lot of different 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.200 things like if someone wears the same perfume or like 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.800 a lot of a wide range of copying. Yeah, and 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.320 so we thought, let's actually dive deep on this, and 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.760 I'm not gonna lie. We went a bit rogue quite. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.520 I started talking about oneness and like nirvana. So it 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.559 was like an interesting space where my brain was going. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.720 But I think that's what you do enjoy about these episodes, 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:11.160 So look, we go right into this. And also what 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.760 I love about these episodes is like me and A 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.440 Tear aren't really giving you any answers. We're just like 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:22.120 pondering on it with you, so you can step into curiosity. Yeah, 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.480 and that is the biggest thing I want you to 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.520 draw from this episode of like when you get a trigger, 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:31.920 is instead of going straight to the reactivity of upset 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.200 or disappointed or shame or guilt or all the things, 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.640 it's like, can you just step into curiosity of like. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.120 Ooh, why is this annoying me? 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:41.799 Yeah? 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.840 Or like what's happening here? And think of it that 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:48.040 way rather than this is annoying me. See those two 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.840 different eleancies. So that's the biggest takeaway here than me 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.400 and a tier. Just give you a whole bunch of 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:54.359 fucking different ideas. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.400 We're just throwing lots of theory down on it. Yeah, 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:57.760 we got right into it. 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.400 But before we get into the show recommendation sit here. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:06.239 Yes, I have two. Number one is they're actually both 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:07.239 on Amazon Prime too. 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.480 Number one is Amazon Prime sponsors. 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:17.880 If you're listening, is there's a TV show on there 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.720 called Citadel and it's new and it's like a bit 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.600 of a spy one. I actually watched it because I 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.960 was curious because it's now I think, like the most 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.200 expensive TV show to have ever been made, and I 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:30.520 just really wanted to see what. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:32.880 Happened in it that made itself. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.320 I was so expensive they ended up having to do reshoots, 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.560 so I think the cost of the reshoots plus the 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.680 original budget. And it's like they're all over the Europe 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.520 in it. Some's in Spain, somes in Italy, London, everywhere. 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.720 Pretty high profile actors, so it would. 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.720 Have just been an expensive Why should they have to 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:52.960 do reshoots? Do we know? I haven't been able to 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.320 find out, come on it to you. I'll do something, 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:59.360 all right. So that's my first recommendation. And so it's good. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:04.640 It's very good, very very good, very much so it 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:09.800 was it's been actually released weekly and there's this is 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.520 the last week, so we'll be finished by the time 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:18.320 people's need to this, I think. And then my second 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.560 recommendation is Air Movie, which is also on Prime Georgie 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.640 Trying It got bored, but I loved it. I love 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.320 like a little business sport kind of movie where you 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.960 learn about how something got put together and how it worked. Yeah, 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.359 your brain does work, like yeah, I frothed it. It was amazing. 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:36.680 What's your recommendation? 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.719 I ta actually recommended it this the other week, but 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:43.120 I want to re recommend it because I watched Queen 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.720 Charlotte on the weekend and it took me two weekends 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.400 to get through because I only do Netflix on the weekend. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.640 But it was beautiful. It is amazing. It was such 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.400 an interesting. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:59.200 Emotional movie that just really I was like, oh, that 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:00.000 was just a good one. 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:06.000 I agree, and just very I opening into I walk 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.280 to I'm like, gosh, you really never know what someone's 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:08.880 going through. 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:13.160 Yeah, because it's really funny because in Bridgeton, like the 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.760 Queen gets a very surface level kind of angle. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.120 Yeah, and then to understand her story like, oh that's interesting. Yeah, 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:20.680 I love that. 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.760 And then my second recommendation that is not a TV 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.800 show because the tea is just fucking slammed you with 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.680 those is something I have been doing. The reason why 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.359 I don't really have a great recommendation is I have 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:36.839 been really leaning back into just playing music. So I 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.599 know we spoke about this like when you go through 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.800 seasons of like self development, of course, and I have 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.440 really noticed the part of me that has had like 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.000 a lot of different ideas spiraling and felt really ungrounded. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.400 And I think in those moments, the last thing you 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:55.440 want to do is add onto that with like noise, 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.440 ease of a podcast, noise of a training noise, noise noise. 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.360 It's like, in those moments, I truly believe it's like 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.120 get back to the basics. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:04.719 And I. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.080 Actually have a bit of a obsession with John Mayer 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.680 right now, so random. 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:11.919 I was gonna ask you what you're listening to. 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:17.960 So Tim loves live music and he often plays like 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.279 people playing live shows and on YouTube. Something that keeps 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.200 popping up as John Mayor playing came which one like 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.360 gravity or like one of his famous songs, but he's 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.440 playing it live and it's like the encore. So he's like, 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:37.640 really jammin He's like, oh yeah, and I just vibe it. 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:42.279 And so what I actually press is like John Mayer instrumental, 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.400 so like no actual words. Oh I love that, And 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.400 I'm just getting like a beautiful beat and I'll like, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.120 I'll play that on my walk or when I'm in 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.880 the car, and it's just giving me some space. 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:54.080 In my brain. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.000 And so I wanted to recommend to you guys. It's 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.240 like if you are feeling those moments where you're like, oh, 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.599 it's just like so much happening. There's so much happening 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:07.400 in my world. It's like you have to lead in 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:09.360 the way of okay, cool, I need to actually give 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.280 myself some space, not try and add more things in. 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:22.160 I love that. I'm with that. Let's get into the episode. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.600 Just some context for this episode. We put the call 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.880 out on Stories a while ago now to the community 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.080 because I thought it would be fun to do a 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.320 podcast segment all on things that have triggered everyone. 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:35.800 But. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.880 They were all the same, so I thought we'd just 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.680 make it an episode. Something we actually noticed was the 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:49.480 common theme is people get super triggered when someone copies them. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.360 I'm just going to read a few examples out so 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:57.160 that everyone sort of gets it, but we get the vibe. Yeah, 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.200 my mum always asks when what perfume I'm wearing ring 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.960 and then buys it. 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.640 This is literally my mom copies everything I do. 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.440 It. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.960 Debby is like just like a walking clone, and I 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:12.360 love it. 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.280 I love a smell related one in high school when 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.400 my friend bought the same body sprays me. I was pissed. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:26.000 Then this isn't a copy you want, but it's really funny. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:27.640 My ex is run. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.880 It was like a seagull taking off. 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:36.480 Sorry that was so off copy. Get back on topic. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.559 When you're a dinner and your date chooses the same 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.000 meal as you, when someone does the same thing after 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:43.920 you tell them but they beat you to it, or 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:48.760 go one up. My sister copying my interior design style, 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.040 literally buying the same furniture. It's a replica. When I 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.520 was going to do something but someone tells me not 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:56.040 to do. 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.280 It, but then they go, then they go and do it. 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:04.000 It's so let's just fucking go straight and unpack this 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.240 because we have had a lot of talks in the 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.560 office about this, because you have said that previously cop 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:10.960 some copying you had triggered you. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.080 Also, it's like breck a. 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.520 Massive trigger for me when I would start doing something 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.240 and then I would slowly. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.000 See people like trickle effect. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.319 If everyone starting to do it, I'd get super irritated. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.520 But it's something I worked through at a young age. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.840 What was like, what are the feelings so irritation, Yeah. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.440 Just real frustration and just like ugh, that's probably like 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.680 my description of it is just like a bit angry 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:40.400 and a bit like pissed and like because why though 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.360 for me, yeah, what I've what I realized was that 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:50.679 it obviously struggled to embrace myself wholly, and when I 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.560 started to express aspects of myself that I worked hard 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.840 to build up the confidence to express, and then I 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.600 saw people almost ripping it off. I was like, but 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.240 that's not you, Like, I did all this work to 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.720 be able to embrace that part of me and you're 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.240 just like copying it. But it doesn't mean to you 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:13.599 what it meant to me, and that was my trigger. Yeah, 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.160 but I feel like he can be so different with copying. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:20.280 So and I know there's like there's super surface level 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.199 copying examples like the ones on DMS of like someone 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.320 buying the same smelly or or it can be like 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.160 really extreme where it's like they've copied your fucking business 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.400 idea or like yeah, you know those ones. 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.960 And I don't know. 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.720 For me, I personally have never been too triggered with 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.560 the copying thing. I didn't have sisters though I only 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.959 have brothers, not a sister. Yeah, I don't know if 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.240 that's like because in the office, that's what the girls said, 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:48.320 like their sister's copying them. 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:49.280 So I didn't have a sister. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.520 And see, even I'm gonna be really honest, probably in 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:58.360 high school I was probably the one copying because I 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.360 remember in high school just being so shit scared of 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.600 doing anything outside of the box because it always felt 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:05.720 like I was doing something wrong. 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.560 So if anything, I was probably the one. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.760 Being like, fuck, how do I fit in? Yeah, So 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.920 like I don't know, I'm kind of on the other end. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:17.160 And then even moving forward, like if we're talking here 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.000 and now it's really funny to hear because literally just 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.920 the team meeting I had before recording this, one of 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:27.720 the girls brought in like a company, you know, similar 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.959 to us copying such a direct idea, like word for word, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.679 And it's so interesting because I just felt nothing and 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.280 we like we all kind of laughed and I literally 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.720 said the words of, well, let's take it as a compliment. 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:47.040 Clearly we're doing something right. And I truly like when 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.800 I see someone kind of copying, I'm like, oh, I'm 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.800 a trailblazer, yeah, and I get the vibes of like 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:57.400 I'm going first. And also I know no one can 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.679 actually ever copy me because I'm such an embodiment of 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:05.160 myself that it's like, I don't know, it just feels 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:09.080 like noise, Like it doesn't feel like it matters to me. 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.960 Yeah, And so for me in that moment. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.480 Even like I know that's that's like a more extreme 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.880 example compared to like a more surface level example, But 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.079 I don't know when I'm thinking about it. Don't you 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.720 think the common thing here is like almost like a 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:28.400 sense of like lack. Yeah, like you because for instance, 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.080 if you were in a state of like full abundance 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.040 when they were like a full abundance of there's enough 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:40.760 for everyone, no one, Like I know, I'm so abundant 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.040 and all good. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:46.040 It's like, why would you be worried? Yeah? Or am 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:46.720 I overarched? 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.400 No? No, I definitely understand what you mean, especially with 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.640 like your more deep examples, like people copying business ideas 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.360 for example, and like you, if you were in a 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.520 state of abundance, you'd probably go more towards lean, more 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.800 towards fact of like there could be five of my 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.160 same businesses and it could all be making millions and 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.440 millions and billions of dollars and there's still more in 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:11.280 the world. Ye, Like it's never there's never gonna be enough. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:13.280 There's always more space. 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:17.280 And like even going back to like my favorite slogan ever, slogan, 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.959 my favorite quote ever of like no one is you and. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.120 That is your power. Yeah, Like I just. 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:27.000 Think you can't ever actually copy someone, Like it's I 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.760 just think especially and this is hit. 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.120 This is I'm gonna fucking probably trigger you all here. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:37.040 If you're worried about people copying you, I guarantee you 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:42.400 you're not actually in your full expression of yourself because 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.240 otherwise Why would you be worried when you're in full 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.080 expression of yourself. 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:51.640 You're just like cool, it's me, I'm here, this is it. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:56.160 Yeah, there's no like lack, there's because it's always like cool. 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.080 I just get to lock into myself. I just get 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.839 to like be me and there's no problems. 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.439 Yeah, whereas others, why would it tricky you? I think, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:06.319 am I getting really dated? 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:07.240 What's happening right now? 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.480 That is a really good way to look at it. 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:15.200 And the other way is almost that if you've attached like, 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.920 for example, the surface level ones like smellies, or I 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.880 know someone who got really triggered when someone got the 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:25.960 same piercingism or the same tattoo and that sort of stuff. 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:31.200 Is if you've attached your identity to external things, and 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:35.480 then other people start to emulate those external things, you 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.480 will get triggered and rattled because you'll think they're trying 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.840 to be you and you don't have your identity and 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:45.040 that's your identity, and you haven't quite realized that your 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:46.600 identity isn't those things. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.600 I get you. That's so true. 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.480 Like let's even give the example just for context of 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.320 like let's say in my bio, it says like Georgie 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:58.560 manifestation coach. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:14:59.720 Yeah, and then I see like. 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:01.960 One of my best friends being like, I'm blah blah 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.840 blah manifestation coach, and I'm like, what the fuck, No, 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.000 You're not manifestation coach. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.040 Yes, yeah, not that I would, Yeah, that would. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.680 Yeah in saying that, that's yeah, but it's because I 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.840 have identified so solely with no, I'm the manifestation coach. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:22.000 Interesting, and you've boxed yourself in and you haven't. You 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.480 don't know who you are aside from those things, So 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:29.760 you don't recognize your power as you You see you 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.960 as external items that sit around who you actually are. 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.640 I don't know. Yeah, yeah that makes sense. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.840 Yeah, and so if you're two last, but I am like, 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.040 I'm this perfume, I'm this this style, I dress like this, 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.560 I drive this car, and then if someone went and 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.960 did all those things, you would feel like you're being 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.880 replaced because you don't actually recognize your true power and a. 0:15:54.840 --> 0:16:00.600 Lot of self worth on that identity. Yeah those things. 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.400 Han, I'm gonna take it one step deeper. This is 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.200 really fasty what done? Is it? 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:09.600 Also? 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:14.560 I don't know when you get like triggered or that 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.880 sort of thing of someone being the same of you, 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:24.600 don't you think it's like so if you think about spiritualness, spiritualness, spirituality, 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:29.240 it's like the concept of spirituality and there's no end point. 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.600 But let's say there's an end point of like nirvana 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.080 or fucking that sort of thing, like if you're a monk. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:40.400 It's kind of this concept that not like oneness, like 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:44.880 the concept of we are all energy, we're all the 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.600 same thing, and it's like you are me, I am you, 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.400 and no one is better, no one is worse. Like 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.200 this concept of oneness, that's what I would say, is 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.120 like the epitome of spiritualness. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.840 Yeah, would you agree? Yeah, let's let's disagree with this. 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:02.400 You wait to sign. 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.840 I guess that's my interpretation. I should say. It's like 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:12.280 even this concept of you projecting that someone is separate 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.680 to you, Yes, and I believe of like if you're 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.760 seeing people as separate to you, that's such like a 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:25.200 step in the wrong direction because in the realm of spiritualness, 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.240 it's like we're all actually one. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.480 So why are you trying to run away from everyone? 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.199 Or like yeah, like you're why does that matter? Yeah? 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:39.000 Is that just really deep it is very deep. I 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:44.280 don't know, for a quiet let's go back to the step. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.159 Yeah, well, yeah, I don't know that's even like that 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.879 concept if you think about it. I also just think 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.679 of if we're talking triggers from an overall sense, I 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.640 think any trigger is just. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:58.960 A sign post for you. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.840 So it's like, oh, why am I triggered here? 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.120 And it's like, I don't believe that. 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.720 Someone copying you is always going to mean the same 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.040 thing of what you know, me and a Tira talking 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:14.119 about Yeah exactly. But I think it invites you to 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:18.480 have a look of like, what's it actually triggering here? 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:22.560 Triggering here? Is it because I have so much worth 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.399 on this identity that this other person is like coming 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:30.000 on my territory. Is it of the sense of you 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:34.440 not actually fully accepting yourself or is it just a 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:39.000 signpost of I guess what's important to you? Or like 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.680 maybe you just need to go deeper on this issue 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:43.800 of like why would this trigger me? 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:45.000 Yeah. 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.320 Another thing that comes to mind is almost that some 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.640 people might have in their head that they can't. 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:53.240 Copy other people. 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:58.400 Oh, and then when someone copies them, they get triggered 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.920 because if say one of their friends bought a pair 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.680 of shoes that they really liked, they wouldn't allow themselves 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:05.280 to buy that pair of shoes because they don't want 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.520 to copy their friend. But when someone does it to them, 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.119 it's like, well, why can you do that? But I 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.040 can't do that, Like I don't do that to people, 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.240 so why are you doing it to me? But it's 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:17.000 like you can do whatever you want if a. 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:22.200 Self permission thing or I love that. Yeah. See that's even. 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.080 Like I'm so of the like of the view that 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:30.000 you just can't like there's if you think about all 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.639 the ideas and all the things in the world, like 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:38.600 it's already done, Like you really can't reinvent the wheel. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:40.240 No, And so that's. 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:44.560 Even like like just ideas with you know, business or 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:50.359 whatever is I'm not necessarily always doing the most unique, 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:55.480 the most original innovative, No, because it's like that's not 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:57.760 always going to be the best thing for your business. No, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.360 Because it's like also a lot of people have gone 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.440 through a lot of fucking challenges to tell you. 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:03.800 What's the best thing exactly. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.399 And so that's even something to think about of like 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:13.680 how what's your relationship with quote unquote cope copying other 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.640 people and obviously, like if it's fucking word for word, 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:22.200 that's plagiarism. Yeah, something different. But even if I think 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.720 of some of the best ideas we've had in like 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:30.439 and h or rn C, they've usually come from And 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.960 I even remember Mel talking about this on her podcast 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.720 that we did Behind the Biz of Like she will 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:40.800 often look at other industries and what they're doing well 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.240 and like take that of just like you know, a 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.840 point or something, and put it in a completely other industry. Yeah, 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.320 And it's like you're sourcing ideas, you're getting inspiration, and 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:56.119 that's inspiration. It's like, can it just be inspiration? But 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.560 also I think a big thing with quote unquote copping 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:04.159 is like always locking into like is this me? 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:05.400 Yeah? 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.000 Does this actually come from me and my heart space? 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.280 And that is when you're like really locked into your intuition. 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.639 And that's even like if we're talking clothes and like 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:18.480 sense of style. Yeah, I recently have like noticed a 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.159 shift for me to dress a little bit differently. And 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.520 I have like a bit of a Pinterest board. Yeah, 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.840 and anytime I buy a piece of clothing, I look 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:28.840 on that Pinterest board and I'm like, oh, is this 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.359 my style? Is this what I'm feeling? Or am I 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:33.200 just excited about the marketing. 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:37.160 That's actually a really good idea? Yeah, And it's like just. 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.159 Coming back to that like some questions or whatever it 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:41.879 is for you, like coming back to like, oh is 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.560 this actually me? Or am I just getting excited? Because 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.359 that's even like with ideas and business or like just 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:51.199 fucking social media. Yeah, you're getting hit. You're consuming so 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:54.040 much that it can be like so overwhelming and like 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:55.960