1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: our respects to elders past, present and emerging and extend 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where we 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: ch have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: mix soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: scenes of my life running two businesses and being among 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Think of us as the perfect combo of brunch with 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: your besties mixed with self development. 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: No matter where you. 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: Are in your journey, We're here to help you be curious, 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness. 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: If you're ready to get into. 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: The driver's seat of your own life and stop letting 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: life pass you by, then you're in the right place. Hi, everybody, 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: welcome back to the potty today. We have such a 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: fun self development episode for you, and it is all 20 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: about triggers. You know how much we love unpacking triggers, 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: don't we a tear? 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: We love it. 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: We love it, and so we actually put a call 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: out on our socials and be. 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: Like, tell us your triggers, let's unpack them. 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: And A Tear was like, they're actually all pretty much 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: the same. And it really came from this root of 28 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: if someone copies you, you being annoyed of you know, 29 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: that triggering you. And there was a lot of different 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: things like if someone wears the same perfume or like 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: a lot of a wide range of copying. Yeah, and 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: so we thought, let's actually dive deep on this, and 33 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. We went a bit rogue quite. 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: I started talking about oneness and like nirvana. So it 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: was like an interesting space where my brain was going. 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: But I think that's what you do enjoy about these episodes, 37 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: So look, we go right into this. And also what 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: I love about these episodes is like me and A 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: Tear aren't really giving you any answers. We're just like 40 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: pondering on it with you, so you can step into curiosity. Yeah, 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: and that is the biggest thing I want you to 42 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: draw from this episode of like when you get a trigger, 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: is instead of going straight to the reactivity of upset 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: or disappointed or shame or guilt or all the things, 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: it's like, can you just step into curiosity of like. 46 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: Ooh, why is this annoying me? 47 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 3: Yeah? 48 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: Or like what's happening here? And think of it that 49 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: way rather than this is annoying me. See those two 50 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: different eleancies. So that's the biggest takeaway here than me 51 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: and a tier. Just give you a whole bunch of 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: fucking different ideas. 53 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: We're just throwing lots of theory down on it. Yeah, 54 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: we got right into it. 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: But before we get into the show recommendation sit here. 56 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 3: Yes, I have two. Number one is they're actually both 57 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: on Amazon Prime too. 58 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: Number one is Amazon Prime sponsors. 59 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: If you're listening, is there's a TV show on there 60 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: called Citadel and it's new and it's like a bit 61 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: of a spy one. I actually watched it because I 62 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: was curious because it's now I think, like the most 63 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: expensive TV show to have ever been made, and I 64 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: just really wanted to see what. 65 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: Happened in it that made itself. 66 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: I was so expensive they ended up having to do reshoots, 67 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: so I think the cost of the reshoots plus the 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: original budget. And it's like they're all over the Europe 69 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: in it. Some's in Spain, somes in Italy, London, everywhere. 70 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: Pretty high profile actors, so it would. 71 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: Have just been an expensive Why should they have to 72 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: do reshoots? Do we know? I haven't been able to 73 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: find out, come on it to you. I'll do something, 74 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: all right. So that's my first recommendation. And so it's good. 75 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: It's very good, very very good, very much so it 76 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: was it's been actually released weekly and there's this is 77 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: the last week, so we'll be finished by the time 78 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: people's need to this, I think. And then my second 79 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: recommendation is Air Movie, which is also on Prime Georgie 80 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: Trying It got bored, but I loved it. I love 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: like a little business sport kind of movie where you 82 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: learn about how something got put together and how it worked. Yeah, 83 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 3: your brain does work, like yeah, I frothed it. It was amazing. 84 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: What's your recommendation? 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: I ta actually recommended it this the other week, but 86 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: I want to re recommend it because I watched Queen 87 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: Charlotte on the weekend and it took me two weekends 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: to get through because I only do Netflix on the weekend. 89 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: But it was beautiful. It is amazing. It was such 90 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: an interesting. 91 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: Emotional movie that just really I was like, oh, that 92 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: was just a good one. 93 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: I agree, and just very I opening into I walk 94 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: to I'm like, gosh, you really never know what someone's 95 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: going through. 96 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's really funny because in Bridgeton, like the 97 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: Queen gets a very surface level kind of angle. 98 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then to understand her story like, oh that's interesting. Yeah, 99 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: I love that. 100 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: And then my second recommendation that is not a TV 101 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: show because the tea is just fucking slammed you with 102 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: those is something I have been doing. The reason why 103 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: I don't really have a great recommendation is I have 104 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: been really leaning back into just playing music. So I 105 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: know we spoke about this like when you go through 106 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: seasons of like self development, of course, and I have 107 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: really noticed the part of me that has had like 108 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: a lot of different ideas spiraling and felt really ungrounded. 109 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: And I think in those moments, the last thing you 110 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: want to do is add onto that with like noise, 111 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: ease of a podcast, noise of a training noise, noise noise. 112 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: It's like, in those moments, I truly believe it's like 113 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: get back to the basics. 114 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: And I. 115 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Actually have a bit of a obsession with John Mayer 116 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: right now, so random. 117 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you what you're listening to. 118 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: So Tim loves live music and he often plays like 119 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: people playing live shows and on YouTube. Something that keeps 120 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: popping up as John Mayor playing came which one like 121 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: gravity or like one of his famous songs, but he's 122 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: playing it live and it's like the encore. So he's like, 123 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: really jammin He's like, oh yeah, and I just vibe it. 124 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: And so what I actually press is like John Mayer instrumental, 125 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: so like no actual words. Oh I love that, And 126 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm just getting like a beautiful beat and I'll like, 127 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: I'll play that on my walk or when I'm in 128 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: the car, and it's just giving me some space. 129 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: In my brain. 130 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: And so I wanted to recommend to you guys. It's 131 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: like if you are feeling those moments where you're like, oh, 132 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: it's just like so much happening. There's so much happening 133 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: in my world. It's like you have to lead in 134 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: the way of okay, cool, I need to actually give 135 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: myself some space, not try and add more things in. 136 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: I love that. I'm with that. Let's get into the episode. 137 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: Just some context for this episode. We put the call 138 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: out on Stories a while ago now to the community 139 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: because I thought it would be fun to do a 140 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: podcast segment all on things that have triggered everyone. 141 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: But. 142 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: They were all the same, so I thought we'd just 143 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: make it an episode. Something we actually noticed was the 144 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: common theme is people get super triggered when someone copies them. 145 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: I'm just going to read a few examples out so 146 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: that everyone sort of gets it, but we get the vibe. Yeah, 147 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: my mum always asks when what perfume I'm wearing ring 148 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: and then buys it. 149 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: This is literally my mom copies everything I do. 150 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: It. 151 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: Debby is like just like a walking clone, and I 152 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: love it. 153 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: I love a smell related one in high school when 154 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: my friend bought the same body sprays me. I was pissed. 155 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: Then this isn't a copy you want, but it's really funny. 156 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: My ex is run. 157 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: It was like a seagull taking off. 158 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: Sorry that was so off copy. Get back on topic. 159 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 3: When you're a dinner and your date chooses the same 160 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: meal as you, when someone does the same thing after 161 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: you tell them but they beat you to it, or 162 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: go one up. My sister copying my interior design style, 163 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: literally buying the same furniture. It's a replica. When I 164 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: was going to do something but someone tells me not 165 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: to do. 166 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: It, but then they go, then they go and do it. 167 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: It's so let's just fucking go straight and unpack this 168 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: because we have had a lot of talks in the 169 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: office about this, because you have said that previously cop 170 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: some copying you had triggered you. 171 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: Also, it's like breck a. 172 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: Massive trigger for me when I would start doing something 173 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: and then I would slowly. 174 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: See people like trickle effect. 175 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 3: If everyone starting to do it, I'd get super irritated. 176 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: But it's something I worked through at a young age. 177 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: What was like, what are the feelings so irritation, Yeah. 178 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: Just real frustration and just like ugh, that's probably like 179 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: my description of it is just like a bit angry 180 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: and a bit like pissed and like because why though 181 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: for me, yeah, what I've what I realized was that 182 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: it obviously struggled to embrace myself wholly, and when I 183 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: started to express aspects of myself that I worked hard 184 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: to build up the confidence to express, and then I 185 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 3: saw people almost ripping it off. I was like, but 186 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: that's not you, Like, I did all this work to 187 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: be able to embrace that part of me and you're 188 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: just like copying it. But it doesn't mean to you 189 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 3: what it meant to me, and that was my trigger. Yeah, 190 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: but I feel like he can be so different with copying. 191 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: So and I know there's like there's super surface level 192 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: copying examples like the ones on DMS of like someone 193 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: buying the same smelly or or it can be like 194 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: really extreme where it's like they've copied your fucking business 195 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: idea or like yeah, you know those ones. 196 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 197 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: For me, I personally have never been too triggered with 198 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: the copying thing. I didn't have sisters though I only 199 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: have brothers, not a sister. Yeah, I don't know if 200 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: that's like because in the office, that's what the girls said, 201 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: like their sister's copying them. 202 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: So I didn't have a sister. 203 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: And see, even I'm gonna be really honest, probably in 204 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: high school I was probably the one copying because I 205 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: remember in high school just being so shit scared of 206 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: doing anything outside of the box because it always felt 207 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: like I was doing something wrong. 208 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: So if anything, I was probably the one. 209 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: Being like, fuck, how do I fit in? Yeah, So 210 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: like I don't know, I'm kind of on the other end. 211 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: And then even moving forward, like if we're talking here 212 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: and now it's really funny to hear because literally just 213 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: the team meeting I had before recording this, one of 214 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: the girls brought in like a company, you know, similar 215 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: to us copying such a direct idea, like word for word, 216 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: And it's so interesting because I just felt nothing and 217 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: we like we all kind of laughed and I literally 218 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: said the words of, well, let's take it as a compliment. 219 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: Clearly we're doing something right. And I truly like when 220 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: I see someone kind of copying, I'm like, oh, I'm 221 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: a trailblazer, yeah, and I get the vibes of like 222 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm going first. And also I know no one can 223 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: actually ever copy me because I'm such an embodiment of 224 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: myself that it's like, I don't know, it just feels 225 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: like noise, Like it doesn't feel like it matters to me. 226 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so for me in that moment. 227 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: Even like I know that's that's like a more extreme 228 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: example compared to like a more surface level example, But 229 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: I don't know when I'm thinking about it. Don't you 230 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: think the common thing here is like almost like a 231 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: sense of like lack. Yeah, like you because for instance, 232 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: if you were in a state of like full abundance 233 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: when they were like a full abundance of there's enough 234 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: for everyone, no one, Like I know, I'm so abundant 235 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: and all good. 236 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: It's like, why would you be worried? Yeah? Or am 237 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: I overarched? 238 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: No? No, I definitely understand what you mean, especially with 239 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: like your more deep examples, like people copying business ideas 240 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: for example, and like you, if you were in a 241 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: state of abundance, you'd probably go more towards lean, more 242 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: towards fact of like there could be five of my 243 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: same businesses and it could all be making millions and 244 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: millions and billions of dollars and there's still more in 245 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: the world. Ye, Like it's never there's never gonna be enough. 246 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: There's always more space. 247 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: And like even going back to like my favorite slogan ever, slogan, 248 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: my favorite quote ever of like no one is you and. 249 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: That is your power. Yeah, Like I just. 250 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: Think you can't ever actually copy someone, Like it's I 251 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: just think especially and this is hit. 252 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: This is I'm gonna fucking probably trigger you all here. 253 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: If you're worried about people copying you, I guarantee you 254 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: you're not actually in your full expression of yourself because 255 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: otherwise Why would you be worried when you're in full 256 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: expression of yourself. 257 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: You're just like cool, it's me, I'm here, this is it. 258 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no like lack, there's because it's always like cool. 259 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: I just get to lock into myself. I just get 260 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: to like be me and there's no problems. 261 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, whereas others, why would it tricky you? I think, 262 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 2: am I getting really dated? 263 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: What's happening right now? 264 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: That is a really good way to look at it. 265 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 3: And the other way is almost that if you've attached like, 266 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: for example, the surface level ones like smellies, or I 267 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: know someone who got really triggered when someone got the 268 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: same piercingism or the same tattoo and that sort of stuff. 269 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: Is if you've attached your identity to external things, and 270 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: then other people start to emulate those external things, you 271 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: will get triggered and rattled because you'll think they're trying 272 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 3: to be you and you don't have your identity and 273 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: that's your identity, and you haven't quite realized that your 274 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: identity isn't those things. 275 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: I get you. That's so true. 276 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: Like let's even give the example just for context of 277 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: like let's say in my bio, it says like Georgie 278 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: manifestation coach. 279 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I see like. 280 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: One of my best friends being like, I'm blah blah 281 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: blah manifestation coach, and I'm like, what the fuck, No, 282 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: You're not manifestation coach. 283 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, not that I would, Yeah, that would. 284 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah in saying that, that's yeah, but it's because I 285 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: have identified so solely with no, I'm the manifestation coach. 286 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: Interesting, and you've boxed yourself in and you haven't. You 287 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: don't know who you are aside from those things, So 288 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: you don't recognize your power as you You see you 289 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: as external items that sit around who you actually are. 290 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, yeah that makes sense. 291 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so if you're two last, but I am like, 292 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: I'm this perfume, I'm this this style, I dress like this, 293 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: I drive this car, and then if someone went and 294 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: did all those things, you would feel like you're being 295 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: replaced because you don't actually recognize your true power and a. 296 00:15:54,840 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: Lot of self worth on that identity. Yeah those things. 297 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: Han, I'm gonna take it one step deeper. This is 298 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: really fasty what done? Is it? 299 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: Also? 300 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't know when you get like triggered or that 301 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: sort of thing of someone being the same of you, 302 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: don't you think it's like so if you think about spiritualness, spiritualness, spirituality, 303 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: it's like the concept of spirituality and there's no end point. 304 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: But let's say there's an end point of like nirvana 305 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: or fucking that sort of thing, like if you're a monk. 306 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: It's kind of this concept that not like oneness, like 307 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: the concept of we are all energy, we're all the 308 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: same thing, and it's like you are me, I am you, 309 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: and no one is better, no one is worse. Like 310 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: this concept of oneness, that's what I would say, is 311 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: like the epitome of spiritualness. 312 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, would you agree? Yeah, let's let's disagree with this. 313 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: You wait to sign. 314 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: I guess that's my interpretation. I should say. It's like 315 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: even this concept of you projecting that someone is separate 316 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: to you, Yes, and I believe of like if you're 317 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: seeing people as separate to you, that's such like a 318 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: step in the wrong direction because in the realm of spiritualness, 319 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: it's like we're all actually one. 320 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: So why are you trying to run away from everyone? 321 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 2: Or like yeah, like you're why does that matter? Yeah? 322 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: Is that just really deep it is very deep. I 323 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: don't know, for a quiet let's go back to the step. 324 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, I don't know that's even like that 325 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: concept if you think about it. I also just think 326 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: of if we're talking triggers from an overall sense, I 327 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: think any trigger is just. 328 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: A sign post for you. 329 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, why am I triggered here? 330 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: And it's like, I don't believe that. 331 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: Someone copying you is always going to mean the same 332 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: thing of what you know, me and a Tira talking 333 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: about Yeah exactly. But I think it invites you to 334 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: have a look of like, what's it actually triggering here? 335 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: Triggering here? Is it because I have so much worth 336 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: on this identity that this other person is like coming 337 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: on my territory. Is it of the sense of you 338 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: not actually fully accepting yourself or is it just a 339 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: signpost of I guess what's important to you? Or like 340 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: maybe you just need to go deeper on this issue 341 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: of like why would this trigger me? 342 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 343 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: Another thing that comes to mind is almost that some 344 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 3: people might have in their head that they can't. 345 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: Copy other people. 346 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 3: Oh, and then when someone copies them, they get triggered 347 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: because if say one of their friends bought a pair 348 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 3: of shoes that they really liked, they wouldn't allow themselves 349 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: to buy that pair of shoes because they don't want 350 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: to copy their friend. But when someone does it to them, 351 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: it's like, well, why can you do that? But I 352 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: can't do that, Like I don't do that to people, 353 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 3: so why are you doing it to me? But it's 354 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: like you can do whatever you want if a. 355 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: Self permission thing or I love that. Yeah. See that's even. 356 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm so of the like of the view that 357 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: you just can't like there's if you think about all 358 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: the ideas and all the things in the world, like 359 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: it's already done, Like you really can't reinvent the wheel. 360 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: No, And so that's. 361 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: Even like like just ideas with you know, business or 362 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: whatever is I'm not necessarily always doing the most unique, 363 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: the most original innovative, No, because it's like that's not 364 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: always going to be the best thing for your business. No, 365 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: Because it's like also a lot of people have gone 366 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: through a lot of fucking challenges to tell you. 367 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: What's the best thing exactly. 368 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: And so that's even something to think about of like 369 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: how what's your relationship with quote unquote cope copying other 370 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: people and obviously, like if it's fucking word for word, 371 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: that's plagiarism. Yeah, something different. But even if I think 372 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: of some of the best ideas we've had in like 373 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: and h or rn C, they've usually come from And 374 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: I even remember Mel talking about this on her podcast 375 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: that we did Behind the Biz of Like she will 376 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: often look at other industries and what they're doing well 377 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: and like take that of just like you know, a 378 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: point or something, and put it in a completely other industry. Yeah, 379 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: And it's like you're sourcing ideas, you're getting inspiration, and 380 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: that's inspiration. It's like, can it just be inspiration? But 381 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: also I think a big thing with quote unquote copping 382 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: is like always locking into like is this me? 383 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 384 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: Does this actually come from me and my heart space? 385 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: And that is when you're like really locked into your intuition. 386 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: And that's even like if we're talking clothes and like 387 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: sense of style. Yeah, I recently have like noticed a 388 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: shift for me to dress a little bit differently. And 389 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: I have like a bit of a Pinterest board. Yeah, 390 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: and anytime I buy a piece of clothing, I look 391 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: on that Pinterest board and I'm like, oh, is this 392 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: my style? Is this what I'm feeling? Or am I 393 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: just excited about the marketing. 394 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: That's actually a really good idea? Yeah, And it's like just. 395 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: Coming back to that like some questions or whatever it 396 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: is for you, like coming back to like, oh is 397 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: this actually me? Or am I just getting excited? Because 398 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: that's even like with ideas and business or like just 399 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: fucking social media. Yeah, you're getting hit. You're consuming so 400 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: much that it can be like so overwhelming and like 401 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: you want to do all the things. 402 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 3: You don't even know what thoughts are yours anymore kind 403 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: of vibe. 404 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's when it's like it's time to like 405 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: go inwards. It's time to strengthen my intuition. And I 406 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: just feel like you can't get it wrong if you 407 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: do that. 408 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: M I love that. 409 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: So what are your tips for when someone is getting triggered? 410 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: Let's maybe go a little bit more to the surface 411 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: level copying, because that seems to be more often. Okay, Yeah, 412 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: well I think number one, go inwards on why you're 413 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: being triggered. It Is it because you're coming from a 414 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: lack mindset? Is it because you've attached your concept of 415 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: self to that external item? Is it because you don't 416 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 3: allow yourself to copy others or take inspiration from elsewhere. 417 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: I think it's about shifting your mindset of like is 418 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: this Can this actually just be a form of flattery 419 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: or a form of you gaining evidence of like oh cool, 420 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 1: I'm actually trailblazing here or I'm making waves. Like that's 421 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: actually what I thought in our meeting. I was like, Oh, 422 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: that's really cool that NH is like a trail baser 423 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: in the industry, Like we're we're a company that people 424 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: look to us for ideas and like really bringing. 425 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: Back to like hmm, that's really cool. 426 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like that gets to be it because also 427 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: it's really funny. I was even noticing myself wanted to 428 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: then go on social media to check out what the 429 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: girls had said, but I stopped myself because I think 430 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: that is truly a thing of you can get so 431 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: in your head about it. Yeah, you can get in 432 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: a place of like people copping me ah and yeah, 433 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: like almost like fear based thing. And it's even like 434 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, Fee was saying on My Human Design of 435 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: like fear mongering is such a huge thing for me, 436 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: And it's like not letting yourself getting a mindset of 437 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: fear of oh well, why bother even innovating? Yeah, when 438 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: people are just gonna fucking copy me, Like, I think 439 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: that's not a good mindset too. And I truly like 440 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: my core belief is like I'm so uniquely myself that 441 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: I just get to keep evolving and keep moving and 442 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: no one's ever going to catch me because I keep evolving. Yes, 443 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: I keep focusing on myself. My businesses are such a 444 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: reflection of that too, that we're not looking outside and 445 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: that's why we're tray a little blazing. 446 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I love that. 447 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 3: And even with things like that, if someone's copying you, 448 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 3: people are gonna know. 449 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just don't think you should. I 450 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: think that this. 451 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: Is like a thing where I'm like, I just don't 452 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 1: have space in my brain for this. 453 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: And I think if you have. 454 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: Space in your brain for this, it's like, what problems 455 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: are you normalizing? 456 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 2: And do you want to get better problems as to 457 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 2: every question? Now get a better problem to every question. 458 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This is like a new me of saying, 459 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 2: doing the work. 460 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 4: If you know, you know, yeah, Yeah, I feel like 461 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 4: that's I feel Yeah, I feel like we've hit the 462 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 4: nail on the head but also let's open up this 463 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 4: discussion to the RNC community in the Facebook group because 464 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 4: I generally would like to know because also I do 465 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 4: want to. 466 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: Say, if it just fucking pisces you off, also valid, 467 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, especially if you're like a creative and like 468 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: you put a lot of heart and soul and it's like, 469 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, someone copies you. We're obviously not talking about 470 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: plagiarism though, that's like, yeah, that's a big no, and 471 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: that's something that's not tolerated. 472 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: But you know, I feel like you get in the vibes. 473 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. 474 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of 475 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 1: the Rise and Conker podcast. 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