1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda jam Nation. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: Well, what are we going to do about vaping? Young 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: people are taking up vaping at alarming rates. Almost one 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: in ten eighteen to twenty four year olds reported vaping daily. 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: Young women are taking it up more than young men 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: are because it's odorless, it's more to screet, it doesn't 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: have the stigma around cigarettes. So what are we going. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: To do about this? 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: Well, the new Southwest government is stepping in with a 10 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: new initiative to tell us more about that is the 11 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: new Southwest Health Minister, Ryan Park Minister. 12 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, Amanda, Good morning Jonesy. 13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: Hello Ryan. 14 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: The hard thing I imagine before we get to even 15 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: how you start facing this, is that how do you 16 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: get people, young people to want to give up Because 17 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: they don't have any consequential thinking, this is seen as 18 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: an attractive thing to do. How do you even urge 19 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: them to want to. 20 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: It's a challenge. I've got a fourteen year old son 21 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: and I wish things were as easy as just telling 22 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: them to do something and they follow. That just doesn't happen. 23 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: One of the reasons why we've changed the way we 24 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: do our campaigns for young people, making them a part 25 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: of the design and part of the way and rolls 26 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: out is because it's got a talk and be relevant 27 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: to them amenda. If it's not irrelevant relevant to them, 28 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: they just won't engage with it. So my son at 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: fourteen year old, like a lot of cleenagers, spends a 30 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: lot of time navigating is information via his smartphone. And 31 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: we need to make sure that that information around vaping 32 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: is relevant and meaningful to them. And that's why we've 33 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: got young people helping us design these programs to try 34 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: and increase their impact. 35 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: So how does the app actually work? 36 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: Then? Yeah, pretty simple. They can just download the app 37 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: and then within the app itself there's a whole range 38 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: of features around distractions, around support information, what they can 39 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: do as an alternative during the times of day when 40 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: they're likely to get cravings, what can they do at 41 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: those times a day, all designed to try and present 42 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: them in real time some strategies to try and get 43 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: them to kick a habit that's obviously a severely addiction 44 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: towards nicotine. In some cases, it's. 45 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: So hard to even hear this, isn't it to say 46 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: that you know when they get the cravings because we 47 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: had phased out smoking by and large in our younger generation. 48 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: And yet here we are. We've made it easier for them, 49 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: We've made it more attractive for them. Do they want 50 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: to give up? Or is it just when you get 51 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: older you appreciate the health distractions of it. You know, 52 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: you only want to get healthy when you get older. 53 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: No, look a few things, Amanda. I'm devastated by this, 54 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: to be honest, not just because I'm a dad of 55 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: a teenager and a ten year old, but because governments 56 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: and society had worked so hard in the last century 57 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: to try and reduce the number of people hooked on 58 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: cigarette smoking, and now we've allowed this to come in 59 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: a product that was made out to be something that 60 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: people would get off cigarette smoking. For The reality is, 61 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: if my son's vaping, he's not doing it to stop smoking. 62 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: He's doing it because he's hooked. He's hooked to nicodine. 63 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: And that's why we've had some success with our promotional 64 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: campaign so far. Over the last twelve months. We estimate 65 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: around forty one thousand people have young people who have 66 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: decided to quit or consider in quitting. Now, we've still 67 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: got a long way to go, but we can't just 68 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: give up on this generation, because if we do, we'll 69 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: see what happened in the last generation as we were 70 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: growing up as kids and within the thigh society essentially 71 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: hooked on tobacco as our grandparents and some of our 72 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: parents were. 73 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: There's so many ironies with all of this. When vaping 74 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: came out of so that it was a healthy alternative 75 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: to smoking, and then the kids stopped smoking, and mobile 76 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: phones became the new smoking because they're on the mobile phone. 77 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: But now they'll be looking at the mobile phone for 78 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: the app to get off vaping. 79 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: Whatever it takes. 80 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy, look for whatever it takes. It is crazy. 81 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: But you know, the way in which teenagers in particularly 82 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: I think, navigate the world, whether we like it or not, 83 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: is via their smartphones. And we need to make sure 84 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: that the information and the way in which they want 85 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: to read it and absorb it is available to them. 86 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: And that's why, to be honest, we've used young people 87 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: to design it so that the information is relevant to 88 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: that age group that we're trying to get off this substance. 89 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: Well it works. 90 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a devastating thing. 91 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: Ryan. 92 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: Can I just ask you in the surname park, did 93 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: you ever think of going for Parks minister. That would 94 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: have dovetailed nice, that would. 95 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Have worked out. Well, well, well, Jones, you're like this. 96 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: There's actually an oval in my electorate called Ryan Parks. 97 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, so it's you know, you've got to 98 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: learn to take the mickey out of yourself. 99 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: With a name like mine, there would have been a 100 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 3: selfie taken there for sure. 101 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: One hundred percent, maybe even two or three, maybe even 102 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: so three, A few beers straight down, that's right, that's right. 103 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: I reckon I might have told the story a few 104 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: times and that it was named after me, but anyway, 105 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: maybe not. 106 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: Well, good luck with the app, mate. The new app 107 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: is called pave. It's launching today, Ryan Park, thank you for. 108 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: Joining us, Thanks for having Jonesy, thanks for having his Meena. 109 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: Thank you. 110 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: That's our health minister right there.