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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the.

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Speaker 2: Time poor parent who just wants answers. Now, I think

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Speaker 2: the most magical part of an apology with a child

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Speaker 2: here's the stars of our show, my mom and dad.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I need about twelve barocas to get

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Speaker 2: I don't know what your problem is. I've got my period.

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Speaker 2: For goodness sake, how can you blame baraka?

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's what I need, the twelve baroco because of

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Speaker 1: what's happening in our family, because of where you are

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Speaker 1: right now. Hello this doctor Justin Coulson, feeling a little

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Speaker 1: bit shabby, but doing the best that I can this

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Speaker 1: morning on the founder of Happy Families dot com, dot you,

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Speaker 1: and damn it. We will have a happy family today.

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Speaker 1: If it's the last thing that happens, we will be happy.

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Speaker 1: I'm here with Kylie My I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, I'm going to get in

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Speaker 1: trouble for it, my menstrual wife. Hey, look, it's a

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Speaker 1: part of living, isn't it. Mum to our six kids, perimenopause.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's what I'm suffering from? Yes, I

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Speaker 1: think that might be. We need to talk about some

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Speaker 1: important things. We need to talk about some important things.

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Speaker 1: Now that we're in our home and have been for

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Speaker 1: about a week and we're feeling a little bit more settled,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's why we're tired. It's been a lot the

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Speaker 2: Do you see end insight? No, because of it ever

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Speaker 2: being not a lot.

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Speaker 1: There is six children in our family. Today's podcast topic,

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Speaker 1: let's just get on with that. Instead of complaining about

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Speaker 1: how tired we are, how overwhelmed, how exhausted, how we are.

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Speaker 1: Today's podcast, we're going to share five phrases that will

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Speaker 1: help to trans form your relationship with your child. Five

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Speaker 1: phrases that will help to transform your relationship with your child.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I just thought of a sixth one, so

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Speaker 1: I'm going to make it six. That's the podcast as

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Speaker 1: of today, Kylie, because I've just come up with a

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Speaker 1: when things aren't quite right, when things are looking a

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Speaker 1: little bit rough, a little bit rugged, a little bit down,

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Speaker 1: a bit like they are today for Coley, for me.

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Speaker 1: So let's dive into it. Should we just do it

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Speaker 1: the things that we see in the Coilson household all

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Speaker 1: the time. You just wrote it down and showed it

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Speaker 1: to me, the one that I just thought of. So

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Speaker 1: why don't we start right there and you can have

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Speaker 1: the glory, you can have the you can have the

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Speaker 2: Apologizing I am sorry?

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Speaker 2: Because it helps our children to recognize that we get

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Speaker 2: it wrong. When they're young, they think that we have

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Speaker 2: And so I think it's so powerful as the adult

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Speaker 1: So I've written an article that we will link to

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Speaker 2: Well, once they work out that you don't know everything.

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Speaker 1: So here's the second phrase that I think can help

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Speaker 2: And it's just it's so wonderful to recognize that you

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Speaker 1: And that's the critical thing here. As parents, we often

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Speaker 1: Or what do you need? That shifts Do you know

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, how can I help? I love it. The

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Speaker 1: It's actually empowering if you say it the right way.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't just transform your relationship and empower your kids,

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Speaker 1: And can't means don't want to? After the break my

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Speaker 2: time or parent who just wants answers? Now, Am I

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Speaker 1: We are transforming our relationships with our children? And what

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Speaker 1: We'd love to know what you do to transform your

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Speaker 1: at happy families dot com dot au. The Happy Families

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Speaker 1: podcast is produced by Justin Ruland from Bridge Media. Craig

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Speaker 1: Bruce is our executive producer and if you'd like more

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