WEBVTT - #91 Lara Pitt's Three Boys Won't Sleep In Their Own Beds 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.560 Matt good Day, probably wondering why we're here, and I 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:04.560 have a burning question for you, my guy, are you 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:06.400 still considering a third child? 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:07.520 No? 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:11.520 No, Maybe I don't know, Ash. Depends depends what time 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:12.600 of day you ask me. 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:16.200 Well, we're here today with a bonus episode, a boner 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.640 with a booner with a bonus episode with Lara Pitt, 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:21.040 who happens to have. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:23.239 Three children. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.080 Maybe this will convince you either way. But I think 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:28.400 one more child would kill. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:33.520 Us, kill us all. Lara Pitt good friend of yours. 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:37.320 Ash, good good friend of mine. I was actually at 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:41.320 the football not with Lara for the State of Origin, 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.880 with us with my brother in law, and Lara Pitt 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:45.960 walked into the isle in front of me with a 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.800 whole beautiful family. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:50.600 And she was at working notes. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:52.000 She was enjoying. 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.560 She was there with Lachlan Cooper Hamish. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.520 Yes, and her husband. And the guy next to me, 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.560 who I did not know, was pumped to see her. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.039 She was like, Oh my god, this's like told he's kid. 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:05.560 There's Lara Pitt. 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:06.840 She's a fan favorite. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.520 She is a Fox journal and commentator and that's where 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.840 people would mostly know her from. But she's a pioneer 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.840 in that space, I would say for the female journalist 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:20.560 amongst the big bonehead footballers. 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.800 She's also been fortunate enough to be interviewed by the 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.480 one and only Ashwicks before. This is her second time 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:28.080 being interviewed. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.760 That's the third time, fourth time being interviewed actually by me. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.160 Gosh, it's funny. She sat down and she's like, where 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:34.440 are you not? 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:39.960 I was like no, and she's like I expected nothing less. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:44.600 Also a family friend of ours, her kid plays football 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:46.440 with my sister's kid. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.680 Oh, she's a small world in my plays football with 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:51.919 my dog's sister's cousin's best friend. 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:56.560 Actually I knew Lara's husband in her previous life back in. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.520 The day and halfway through. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:02.120 This don't give it away as we do how that 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.200 came about and Matt's face. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:04.880 Is red again. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:06.040 Let's get into it. 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:20.359 Enjoy. 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.800 Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mum. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.400 I'm Mattie Jay, I'm Ash and. 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:31.280 I'm Fox Leagues Lara Pitch more famous as Mama or 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:32.400 Darles at Home. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.120 This is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good, 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.880 it is the bad, and the relatable And if you've 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.200 come for any advice, Ash and I will never ever 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:49.040 deliver it never, I guess seem to though good, no pressure, No, 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:51.920 you don't have to give advice. But at the same time, 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.480 if not for the listeners, for Ash and myself we 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:55.320 could use some help. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.160 I'm going to hopefully be able to deliver some nuggets 0:02:58.160 --> 0:02:58.560 of gold. 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.040 I agree nuggets. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:03.760 Specifically. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.840 Thank you normally whenever we see the last few times. 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:13.080 For me it was Vegas. Ye, we're dressed as Dad's normally, 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.480 with like a drink in hand. You last saw Ash 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.960 in Brisbane. I did so the magic round. I can 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.119 only imagine what kind of stake he was in. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.600 It was pretty good, Yes, you were pretty good, better 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:31.320 than Vegas, but it was only Yeah. 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:32.760 I think Vegas was a longer stint. 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.160 It was like seven nights y pretty gay by the 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.640 end of that, Like I was actually had to do 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:38.600 some work in Brisbane. 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.920 I feel like in Vegas we were just like. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.400 Splitting it there right, you're splitting it in Vegas you 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:44.600 want a magic crown. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.000 So he had to do all the It. 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.880 Must be strange to see us in the most professional 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:51.560 environment so far. 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.480 This professional not in the sheds for manly singing. The 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:58.120 team song, which how on earth did that happen? 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.160 We just had child and side note Charlie and Matt 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:06.160 Veach here on Wednesday the Cat the Fox guys doing 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.320 We did like an intro for that segment. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:09.680 Okay, I did. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.480 Hear mainly have had a few looks at their processes 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:13.680 internally for security. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:15.440 Off the back of they blocked me. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:19.279 Yeah, like hell. 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.800 To all places, so amazing. 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.000 I was in the tunnel actually to start off with. 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:28.280 As they were coming off. 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.159 I saw the vision a lot of it was it daily, 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:33.680 the bigs. 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.960 The cuddles, like big cuddles after that game, like, guys, 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.520 you beat them, You've opened the season with the wind, 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:39.719 I'm here for you. 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.240 Got to be the greatest day of my life. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.640 It started off with shakes that would take a handshake 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:48.599 on the back Croger. I was like like ashes trying 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.559 to French kiss the players and they're coming off the field. 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.480 I was like, someone's going to do it, Someone's got 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:54.120 to do it. 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.600 Almost almost make me want to like manly. 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:00.320 But everyone could be everyone. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.479 We love that everyone hates us, that's the that's the joke. 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:03.919 Do you know what? 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.239 I used to hate them, But then when you start 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.039 doing what I do, and you get to interview the 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.839 traboy bitches and even Daily Lovely. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.640 Yeah, Lara, when you were a young girl. 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.679 I'm still young, but yes, young young girl, young girl. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:23.000 Primary school. Let's say, yeah, what type of girl were you? 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.120 I can't decide if you were someone who liked Barbie 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.600 dolls and pink dresses or if you were someone who 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.679 was quitting other boys in a headlock and like killing 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:31.440 fish down the pawn. 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.799 I think I had a collection of Barbie Dolls. Definitely. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.600 I had two big brothers, so I was definitely capable 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.359 of getting in a scrap if need be. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:41.920 But I would say it was a tomboy. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:46.039 Going through my teenagers, I think as a little girl, 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.320 Barbie Dolls. For sure did ballet because that's what you 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:50.919 did when you were five or six, and that's what 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.440 Mum got me into. But then as I got through 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.839 to my teenagers, I felt awkward being too feminine, so 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:58.880 I used to borrow my brothers. Like I'd wear my 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.240 brother's clothes. I'd wear like Trackie acts and like be real, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:03.960 and my girlfriends. 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:04.120 Were just like what. 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:06.520 Friday Night. 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:09.919 I did go through a stage where we'd go to 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.599 the remember Kappa there was dance parties where you'd wear pants. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.200 My god, you're too young anyway, But yeah, I feel 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.279 like I were going to fashion sense. I wasn't prepared. 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.560 It's it's like the football brand. 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:27.039 Oh yes, k A p p A with your terrible 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:28.000 fashion sense as a. 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.920 Teenager, two girls back to back, the. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.680 Pants have the stud So I went through a stage. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.520 Oh this is awful. Why am I talking about this anyway? 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:40.320 It was this was actually the whole show. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.560 There was an awkward part in the teenage. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.800 Yes, we're going through those dance parties and having a 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.719 good time and wearing like crop tops with trackie acts 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.000 and dancing badly, but thinking it was really good. My 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.960 best friend and I would have a great time going 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:54.279 to those. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.200 I'm going to ask for some photos if you could 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:57.599 submit them. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:00.400 I just don't know if I have any. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:04.560 But yes, it's gonna sound really dumb. But on the weekends, 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.760 if you're say thirteen fourteen, and you guys, can you know, 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:09.440 have free time? 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:09.880 Yeap? 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.800 Would your brothers go off and leave you alone? Or 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:14.160 were you under their wing? 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.120 So I should probably say my brothers were nine and 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.000 ten years older than me, so right, it was not 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:18.640 a mistake. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.680 I promise. It has been told to me many a time. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:23.720 I was surprised. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.600 I was a best surprise ever. And I was a girl. 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.200 So after two boys, my mom and dad, you know, 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.320 they're happy to say that my brothers were hand for 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.000 compared to me. So nine and ten years old are 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.640 my memories of being thirteen and fourteen. 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.560 By then they'd left the nest, so I was almost 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:41.520 like an early child. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.960 But when I was five or six and they were 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.600 teenage boys, they you know, they looked after me. 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.040 You know, they've always looked after me. I'm like the 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:50.680 little sister. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.960 I remember them picking me up from school when they 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.360 got their license. One of my brother, one of my brothers, 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.480 both of them actually were quite cheeky of them had 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:01.120 a motorbike. 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:02.600 So I even got picked up in the motor. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:04.840 Your girlfriends like, oh my god. 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.680 I think my dad was like absolutely not that thing. 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.320 But yeah, they were older. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.800 There were perks to that because I don't know, they 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.280 taught me everything. I think I learned things probably before 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.720 my years that they were doing and they were getting 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.960 up to. It's pretty good at dabbing on them. Because 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:24.840 I was so little. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.720 My brother stole my parents' car once and the famous story. 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:28.000 Is that. 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.400 Was turned to me and go who did it? 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.760 And I went, Johnny did it? And my brother told 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.120 that in my wedding speech that you know, I was 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.600 the sweet one and you know never meant to get 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.600 him in trouble, but I was just being honest. Yeah, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.480 so we were very close, but age a big factor 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.360 and we're still very close, very close. 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:53.560 Family was family, like, were you I mean you work 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.240 in you know, in the sports industry. 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.120 Now, were you a big sports family? 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:57.560 Yes? 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:02.920 So my dad is European Hungarian, came here fresh off 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.520 the bolt, as we thought we'd grew up hearing the story. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.640 Came to Australia from Hungary with just a little satchel, 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.480 no speaking to English, and. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.040 Just a packed lunch and nothing. 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:12.800 Not even that. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.520 Came here with nothing. No, his mom stayed back in 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.280 Hungry for a bit. And anyway, so. 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:19.880 Why did he come over? 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.959 He wanted to escape because it was a communist country. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.960 He'd had a terror, like he would say, a hard 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.120 life growing up until eighteen, and his mum wanted him 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.559 to have a better life. And so yeah, he has 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.160 an amazing story. My dad his inspiration for all of us. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:39.720 He came here self made, but yeah, the journey was hard. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.000 He had to learn English and get a degree and 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:44.679 all of those things. But the reason I go back 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.360 to that is he brought the soccer round ball influence 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.959 into all of our lives. He met my mum, an 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.400 Ossie country girl. Don't know how that worked, Like could 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.840 not be any more different to each other, like just 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.840 an Aussie girl meets his Hungarian. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.720 And sometimes we find, like Laura's dad a similar scenario. 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.840 He come from Italy, but he tried to remove the 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.719 Italian heritage. With your dad, did he celebrate the Hungarian heritage? Yeah? 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.400 I think he also wanted like he had no family, 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.960 So I think for my dad, he's very proud of 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:18.680 his heritage for sure, but he. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.600 Was about making the proudest thing for dad. 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.040 Now we have we had a beautiful photo actually only 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.959 in March, and it's our whole family and we look 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.120 at it and he looks at it and he just goes, well, 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:34.360 that's just so amazing. There's like about fifteen sixteen seventeen goosebumps. Yeah, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.000 he's got great grandchildren now, he's you know, he came 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:41.040 here and my mum had family obviously being Australian, but 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:45.040 she was the youngest and had older siblings, so similar story. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:51.160 The age gaps, but yeah, I think for dad always 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.559 shared his story, super proud of his heritage. 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:58.000 Any like Hungarian traditions. 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.920 He not had Hungarian food? 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.119 No, maybe accidentally gulash? 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.320 Have you not had gulash paprika chicken ncoli? Oh my 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:12.640 gosh did my beautiful grandma who's no longer with us, 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.240 but she Yeah, it was an amazing Hungarian cook. My 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:20.679 mom learned tried to learn Hungarian when she met my father. Unfortunately, 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.440 it's a really hard language, apparently one of the hardest 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.680 to learn, so I think she would love to have 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.319 learned so she could teach it as the primary care. 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.240 Give it to me and my brothers. That didn't happen. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:34.760 I know swear words. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.400 Give us a couple of swear words. Why don't you 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.559 give us the swear word and we'll guess what it is. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:42.520 I know there's one that I really don't want to 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.199 say because it's it's so offensive. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:50.440 Like, yeah, I just I think from memory as. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.079 To put your fires, that's fuck you. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.680 I think it might be it could be like it 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.040 could be like it could be like, oh my god, 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.160 but like a worst version of that. But then is 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:01.959 another one that I know if I ever said it back, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:03.199 it would get me into big trouble. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.600 But I'm like, well, you're saying it. 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.240 He used to say when he would get frustrated, he 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:08.960 could swear in Hungarians. 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:09.400 But you couldn't you could. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.520 I'd be like, Okay, I know that's a bad one. 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.880 I feel like like any swear word in any language 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.559 is always like aggressive more than every other world quite. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:20.400 Like full on. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:23.400 Loud. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:30.360 Yeah, my dad sneezes loud, like guilty. No, no, he'll 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:30.959 sneeze and. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.440 Like people around the street will be like, holy moly's man. 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:34.600 Okay, he's a real man. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.480 Yeah, that's almost annoying. 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.320 Was it ever tough? Though? Because he came from nothing? 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.280 And so did he ever try and build resilience in you? 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.040 And one hundred that's where it comes from from me. 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:51.040 My work effic comes from Mum and dad And yeah, 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.400 we've we sat down for his eightieth and wrote a book. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.360 To his book, he wrote his biography, which I think 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.800 is really important for all of us to remember to 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.920 have forever about just the jobs that he had to 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:07.960 do when he got here because he didn't have the qualifications, 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.320 he didn't speak English. But he's the complete example of 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.360 someone who was never going to just sit on his hands. 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.240 Like he had multiple jobs. 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:21.559 He studied accounting at night, eventually was qualified and then 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.720 just in his I think it wasn't until his thirties 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.360 did he find his calling in real estate. And he 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.319 was a salesman, like he could talk to anyone and 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:33.160 this man, you know, again with an accent, and just 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.360 saw Australia as a land of opportunity like he. If 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.760 you want to hear someone talk about how amazing Australia is, 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.160 you just talk to Dad. Because he grew up in 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.560 communists hungry where life was hard, it was cold, it 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.760 was poor, he didn't have food like you know, grew 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.680 up during the war. 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:49.640 And was very good. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.959 Ask you to mow the lawn and you're like, I 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.199 can't be bothered. He's like, let me remind you. 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.400 True, but talk about how struggle. 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.440 But you know it's accurate because now when there are 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.560 struggles in anyone's life, he'll he'll often say it's not 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.319 real struggle, you know, And sometimes I have to remind him, Dad, 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:12.280 I understand not everyone went through the trauma and the 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.560 horrible stuff that you did, which we all need to appreciate, 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.880 was really awful, like he lost his dad in the 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.040 war and all of that, but you go, it makes 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.360 it's made us all more resilient understanding what real suffering 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.560 and what real hard times look like. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:27.800 Our version in Australia. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:34.280 Is such a drama. 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:35.280 Like COVID. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.640 He was like, oh, ridiculous, Like I can't see you, 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.080 Like this's so stupid, like no one's even got it, 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:45.200 you know, and you know, so everything is all right 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:46.280 and amazing here. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.040 Yeah, so yes, the round ball. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.640 So he uh he My memories of growing up his 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:54.600 dad in the middle of the night, I could hear 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.920 him listening to like you you're you know you wait 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.960 for Champions League in the middle of night, or cheering 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.280 on Liverpool or just watching soccer all my life, I 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:07.240 could hear him. So then he became involved with soccer 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.000 administration growing up. So back then it was called the NSL, 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.680 the National Soccer League, And I have memories, really early 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:15.480 memories as a five or six year old going to 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.320 es marks Field where that was played, and he would 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.600 take me with him. He'd be in his suit because 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.080 he was in the back office, but he was watching 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.320 and I remember going in the sheds with him as 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.120 a little girl, and that smell and that I was 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:30.200 there for the hot chips. 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.680 Right like I didn't know what I was going for. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.800 I didn't really watch, but it's just a funny story 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:41.480 because then ultimately that's where I'm hanging out around smelly footballers. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:45.560 So I think, you know, I always loved sport. I 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.360 grew up playing sport. I didn't go to a sporty school. 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.080 I wasn't particularly. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:53.400 Gifted at sport, but loved the thrill, the drama. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:58.040 Everything about real time drama is unmatched amazing. 0:15:58.160 --> 0:15:59.920 So your dad do you think planted the seed? 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:01.600 Dad planned it, Yeah, for sure. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.360 And brothers as well, Like I was dragged around to 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:07.160 watch them play so rugby, league, rugby. I watched football 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:08.840 with them on the weekends on the TV. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:10.920 When did journalism come in to play that? 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:16.000 I honestly don't think it was really legitimately an idea 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.880 until I finished my first degree. So I went to 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.880 UNI at eighteen did commerce marketing. Thought I'll go into 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.320 event management, like I don't know, and then it was 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.280 only until I sort of sat back when I'm not 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:30.200 really happy doing this? 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.040 What do I want to do? I loved writing. 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:36.440 I always did well at school in writing, and I 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:37.760 was going to the footy all the time. 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:38.640 I you know. 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.920 Anyway, I just basically made a huge decision to change 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:46.040 careers at about twenty two, twenty three, I just finished 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.240 a four year degree. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.720 It's also, like you always hear that story. Its like 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.120 I started accounting and now I'm a car salesman, Like 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.480 like I studied something for so long to realize that 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:58.120 I don't want. 0:16:58.040 --> 0:16:58.560 To do that. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:16:59.400 Of course, how good? 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.520 And then I thought, great, my beautiful Hungarian dad and 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:03.960 mum are going to really. 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.879 Love that conversation, like I'm going back to study again. 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.680 And it was fine. I think because I had a plan. 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.160 I had to have it all laid out. I said, 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:13.960 I'm going to work in the day. I'm going to 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.879 do this fire correspondence. I'm going to get jobs everywhere 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.240 I can. I'm going to get my foot in the door. Like, 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.320 no worries as long as you've you know, you've got 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.960 a path and you know what your endgame is. And 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.679 I think they saw in me that I was very determined, 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.159 and yeah, I did. I think when you know what 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.280 your dream is, and you can set your sights on it. 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:36.520 I think if I was airy fairy about it, I 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.720 just want to go back and study and have a 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.080 plan and live off you, they'd be like, absolutely. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.600 Notmin It was always going to be journalism within sports. 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.480 Yes, I always wanted to do sports, So I went 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.480 and worked in every actually spent a year working at 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.800 the Footy Show back in two thousand six. 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.920 So that tells you how old I am now twelve 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:06.280 me too, Yeah, let's not go there. 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:11.040 But I was a production assistant back then with Maddie 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:15.919 was on the show Stlow, Maddie and the Chief. So 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.560 it was the original group because not the original but. 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.480 The back back then the show was enormous. Yeah, like 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:22.960 it was. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:25.680 Massive and it was just men. 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:26.160 Yeah. 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.040 So I did a year on that and the only 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.680 female on the show was Lady Luck. 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:33.480 I don't even remember Lady Luck. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.720 Because again would Yeah, and this week the beautiful Alik 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.000