1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Well, we understand that there has been quite quite a 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: bit happening when it comes to tourism. We know that 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: there is right around the Northern territory and we were 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: talking just a little while ago about the Darwin Festival 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: statistics and how many people we've seen here in Darwen 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: with the festival. But in Central Australia, we've obviously spoken 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: at different times about some of the issues being experienced 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: in Central Australia, but I understand that there's been some 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: positive news when it comes to the level of visitation 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: that is being experienced. Now joining me on the line 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: right now is Daniel Rochford, Tourism Central Australia CEO. 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Daniel. 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, and good morning to you. 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: Listen it now, Daniel. 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: How are things going according to Well, I understand that 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: there's some national stats that come out each and every month. 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Katie, it's showing the ultimate trifecta. Of course, these 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: stats are for right across the territory, so it's also 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: the case up in the top end, but we're seeing 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: a massive increase in visitor numbers. They're staying longer, but 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: most importantly they're spending more and that statistic is amazing. 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: We've seen one hundred and forty four percent increase compared 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: to May twenty nineteen, which is a massive increase and 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: a huge injection into our regional economy. 25 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: Just repeat that for US, So one hundred and forty 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: four percent increase. 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: So what was that for? 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: So that was May this year compared to May twenty nineteen, 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: and I'll use the actual real figure. We've gone from 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty five million in May twenty nineteen 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: to three hundred and seventy eight million in May twenty 32 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: two So that is a staggering rebound out of the 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: pandemic and it's being felt not just up in the 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: top end, but also here in Central Australia. Wow, that's 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: the culmination of a huge amount of work from our 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: colleagues Tourism Northern Territory and the work that we've been 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: doing with the marketing fund that we've received from the 38 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: federal government, but also our amazing events right across the territory. 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: That's fantastic to hear, and I think that it's fantastic 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: to hear because we know that the tourism sector is 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: hit so incredibly hard over the COVID period. So to 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: hear that we are bouncing back well better than what 43 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: we were pre COVID is pretty bloody amazing. Yeah. 44 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: Look, I'm astonished by how significant this rebound is. And 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: you know, you compare this to other states, you know, 46 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: we're blowing it out of the ballpark here and it 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: just shows that we've got a lot of interest from 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: domestic and of course statistics don't include international visitation, which 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: haven't really been felt yet here in the Northern Territory. 50 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: So you know, we're hopefully going to see this rebound continue. 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: And certainly, just on Saturday, we almost we were only 52 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: a handful shy of breaking our all time record of 53 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: a number of people coming into the Alice Springs Information Center, 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: So that certainly shows that there's still a strong out 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: of a visitation happening. And we're just about to launch 56 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: into our event season, similar to you guys up in Darwin, 57 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: and you know, we've got the Henley on Todd Brigatta 58 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: this weekend and the Red Center that's in only a 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: few weeks time. So you know, I expect this visitation 60 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 3: statistics to continue and may it last a long time. 61 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: Well, I think we all hope. 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: So hey, we all want to make sure that it 63 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: does last as long as possible. Daniel, what do you 64 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: think is contributed to these strong results? 65 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a confluence of things. One is 66 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: a lot of people with credit and they were wanting 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: to use it on going somewhere special our weather. Of course, 68 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: with the weather being so bad on the Eastern Seaboard. 69 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: I think certainly the marketing efforts from Tourism Northern Territory 70 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: and Tourism Central Australia have certainly contributed. Plus also the 71 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: great events and the work at Northern Territory major events 72 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: and all our event managers putting on our amazing and 73 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: diversity right across the territory. So I think the confluence 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: of us being the go to place in Australia at 75 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: the moment. 76 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: Now just talk us through because you and I have 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: spoken on numerous occasions about the workforce shortage. How tough 78 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: is it going right now? When you talk about these 79 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: numbers and how great things are going, you know with visitation, 80 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: I would imagine that the only potential tough side of 81 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: that is having enough workers. 82 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're still of course struggling and that's being felt 83 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 3: not only right across the territory, but around Australia. You know, 84 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: we're certainly calling upon the federal government to increase the 85 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: cap of migration. We also need to be looking at 86 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: innovative strategies. A big area for us here and in 87 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: Central Australia is working with our indigenous community to encourage 88 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: training and support to enter in the tourism and hospitality industry. 89 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: So all those things. There's no one solvable or to 90 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: fix this, and governments are doing their best at both 91 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: levels to try and ortis and industry also doing their best. 92 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: But you know, I see job add after job add 93 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: job at trying to recruit people at the moment, and 94 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 3: it's still a big, real issue. 95 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still tough going. 96 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: Hey. 97 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: Also, we have you and I have spoken quite a 98 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: few times. 99 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: As well about flights into our springs being cash. It's 100 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: been you know, it's been a concern for you in 101 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: recent weeks. How are things going in that space? 102 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And you know we do have a great 103 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: concern not just in terms of capacity decreases but also 104 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: the cost of airfares. This really goes to the heart 105 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: of the liveability of our community. Look at the fair 106 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: Common to say that we've had some engagement with Quanas 107 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: and other airlines and that's great to see. And look, 108 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: you know we've sort of put forward our views and look, 109 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: we look forward to having those continued conversations and hopefully 110 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: we'll start to see some of that capacity increase and 111 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: some of those airfares go down, because at the moment 112 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: it's a big disenabler. When we talk about statistics, a 113 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: lot of that's been driven by drive tourism. So you know, 114 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: we need to make sure that airfares are affordable. And 115 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: what we see is that our airfairs into our springs 116 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: are way above the averages around the country, and you know, 117 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: we need a bit of fairness come through to help 118 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: us drive more tourism. So yeah, we really do. Also 119 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: could I also just say this is just breaking in 120 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: Alice Springs at the moment, but we've just got win 121 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: that the government has now formally acquired anzach Oble for 122 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: the National Aboriginal Art Gallery. This has only just come 123 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: to hand in the last few last hour, so that's 124 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: also good news for tourism in Central Australia. TCA has 125 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: been advocating for that for a long time and it's 126 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: now good to go, and I guess now it's back 127 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: to the Northern Territory government. Let's get it built. 128 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: So mate, just to repeat that it has like, that's 129 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: very much breaking news that the government has now formally 130 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: acquired Zach Oval for the National Aboriginal Art Gallery. How 131 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: quickly are things going to get underway now, do you think? 132 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 133 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: I think what I understand is that there is a 134 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: design process in hand that's been going through and obviously 135 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: such an iconic facility is going to that process is 136 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: going to bear and needing to go through the process. 137 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: So hopefully that won't be too far away. And I 138 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: guess from what I understand, the federal the new Federal 139 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: abor government has committed significant moneys as well as the 140 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: Northern Territory government. So the money is the design process 141 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: is there. Now we need shovels to come out and 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: let's get on with it. 143 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: It has been a long time in the making that 144 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: art gallery has nurse. 145 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look this has only just broke a mayor 146 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: has only just made that public this morning. So I 147 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: think this is good news for our town. I know 148 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: it's a very vexing issue in our community, but DCA 149 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: has been a very strong supporter of acquiring the anzac 150 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: Oval and let's just get it on and where this 151 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: is going to be an amazing facility and a great 152 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: opportunity for us. 153 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: Well, we might even see whether we're able to get 154 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: the Mayor of Alice Springs on the show at some 155 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: point this morning to get some further detail, because that 156 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: is certainly some good news fought the whole of the 157 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: Northern Territory, but particularly for Central Australia. Daniel seems like 158 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: a good day for territorians, particularly in Central Australia today, Mate, 159 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: is it time to cant we all down the mall? 160 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: I'm just about to say that I think it's time 161 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 4: to get the leopards in left in leotards out and 162 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 4: time to do a few flips. So I'm sure my 163 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 4: good friend Alex Bruce is very keen to see that. 164 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: Get someone to film it for us, would you? 165 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: Indeed? 166 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: Good? Indeed, Daniel, great to speak to you as always, 167 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: and I'm really like, it's really good to hear some 168 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: good news in this space because you know, I know 169 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: it's been a bloody tough time for you guys, so 170 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: it is really good to hear some good news. 171 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and really appreciate your support over this what 172 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: has been a difficulty. 173 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Years now Alex Bruce SE's pretty chafter I think he 174 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: can't wait to see this video of you can't wheeling. 175 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 4: You should join me. 176 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: Good on you, Daniel. Thanks mate. As always, we'll talk 177 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: to you soon