1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: My name's Snatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations woman 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: and I'm here to acknowledge country. Te Glenn Young Ganya Niana, 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Kaka yah Ya bin ah Waka Nian our gay In Nimbini, 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: yak um Jar, dominyamiga Umaga, Ihowaka, Nile, Waman damon Immalan, 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Bimba bang gadabomba in and now in Waka ghana on 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: yak rum Jar Watanadaa. Hello, beautiful friends, we gather on 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: the lands of the Aboriginal people. We thank acknowledge and 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: respect the Abiginal people's land that we're gathering on today. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Take pleasure in all the land and respect all that 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: you see. She's on the Money podcast acknowledges culture, country, 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: community and connections, bringing you the tools, knowledge and resources 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: for you to thrive. 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: She's on the Money. Hello, and welcome to She's on 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: the Money, the podcast that let you be permy about 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: other people's money stories for educational purposes, of course. Welcome 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: back to another one of our money diaries, brought to 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: you by our friends at sky Wealth, where we get 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: to talk with one of our incredible She's on the 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: Money community members all about their journey. Let's jump straight 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: into it, because this week I got a message and 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: it sounded exactly like this. Hi, she's on the money. 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: This time last year, I was in a not so 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: nice sharehouse situation, to put it politely. On top of that, 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: I felt like I was always going to be renting, 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: as home ownership had always seemed so far out of reach. 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: So I moved back home from my mental health thinking 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: I had failed as a freshly thirty year old, and 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: started to save. After eight months, saving twenty thousand dollars 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: and making their help to byascheme my entire personality, I 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: picked up the keys to my new apartment. The cherry 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: on top is that my monthly repayments are cheaper than 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: what my rent would have been. I would love to 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: share my story on this wild ride I've been on money. Doris, 35 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. 36 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: Hello, Thank you for having me. I'm very excited. 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: I am super excited because I just feel like the 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: narrative around millennials owning property at the moment is just 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: so negative and there's not a lot of positive stories. 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: But this is a very positive and very exciting one. 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely. I would say a controversial one for 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 2: some people because I think if you don't know much 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: about something, it's a little scary. But after a lot 44 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 2: of research, is the best solution for me. 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: And I feel like it's really hard as well at 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: the moment, because we all have these dreams of like, 47 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: and I'm assuming that you're growing up, You're like, by thirty, 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to have two point five kids, and I'm 49 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: probably going to own a whole house on a really 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: big property, and like, we have all of these I 51 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 3: guess stereotypical ideas of what we could achieve and what 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: is possible, but that's unfortunately not the reality. I don't 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 3: know if it's unfortunate or just not the reality. But 54 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: let's learn more about you before I start talking, even 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: more before we dive in. My friend, if I asked 56 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 3: you to give your money habits a grade from A 57 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: through to F, what grade would you give them? 58 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to give myself a C or a C plus. 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: I think I'm just above average. I think I'm doing 60 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: pretty well, but I could be better, just like above average. 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: I think I really want to have a little argument 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: with you later, not now, I'll learn more first, but like, 63 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: be for real, I need to quote you on this 64 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: after eight months and saving twenty thousand dollars. Yeah, sorry, 65 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: that's a C or C plus money behavior, like be 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 3: so for real? 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: Well, I was in the very fortunate position where I 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 2: could live at home rent free one hundred percent. 69 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: But do you know how many people in this community 70 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: leave home rent free have debt? 71 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: That's true. I've been canceled out some debt, which is great. 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: I got rid of my credit card. Look at you go. 73 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: I love this. 74 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: All right, let's dive in my favorite question ever, and 75 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: I think it's everybody else's as well. Let's go back. 76 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: Can you tell me a little bit more about your 77 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: money story. 78 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: I think I'd say I've been relatively good about money 79 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: in my adult life, Like when I moved out of 80 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: home for the first time, I always like prioritized rent 81 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: and bills, making sure that you know, I could survive 82 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: on my own pretty much and meet those kind of 83 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: deadlines without sort of any financial stress, And so I'd 84 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: always make money for that. 85 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: What prompted you to move out of home? 86 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: It just felt the right time, Like I had finished UNI, 87 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: I got my first big full time job. I was 88 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: like move out. 89 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: Yep, fair, very fair. I'm always pervy because like I 90 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: moved out of home when I was like eighteen, and 91 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: I had to basically because I needed to for study. 92 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 3: Like my parents would have kept me forever, I'm pretty sure. 93 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: Don't ask them. I don't want to know the actual 94 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: answer to that, but they would have kept me. But 95 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: I just had to, And that, you know, is a 96 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: very big part of my money story. But I'm like, 97 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 3: why do you leave then? Yeah, like if we didn't 98 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: have to pay rent when we moved back home. 99 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: I moved out of home when I was twenty six. 100 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: So I did UNI for quite a long time. I 101 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: did a diploma and then I went into a degree, 102 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: So I was studying for about six years, with like 103 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: a gap year in between as well. So definitely a 104 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 2: late bloomer. 105 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: And why late bloomer? What does that mean to you? 106 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: Oh? I think it's kind of like you finish a 107 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: degree within like a few years, and then like you 108 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: move out of home at like or like when you 109 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: said eighteen or twenty three or twenty two when you finish. 110 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: So I think I felt like I was kind of 111 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: a couple of years behind that. But no, I was 112 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: glad that I was in a position where I could 113 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: move out by myself, because there was definitely something I 114 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: wanted to do as I liked my own space. I 115 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: like to design things how I like them, without other 116 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: people's furniture. Oh totally, yeah, and yeah, minimize that kind 117 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: of people's expectations. 118 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: Oh totally. You don't have a curfew, but you feel 119 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: like you've got a curfew. 120 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. But like if I had dishes on my kitchen sink, 121 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: there were mine and mine alone to clean that. 122 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: It's just your space. You don't have to worry about 123 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: anybody else living in them exactly, all right, So tell 124 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: me a bit more. I want to know about this 125 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 3: housemate situation. And I know you said, oh, was there 126 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: not so nice housing situation? To put it politely, Can 127 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: we like get the not polite version, because that it's 128 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: way more fun. 129 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: I think it was about to backtrack like a little bit. 130 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: It was about mid twenty twenty four I decided I 131 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: want to save more and move into a sharehouse. I 132 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: knew a couple of people there. I wouldn't describe them 133 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: as friends. I knew one of them. We were kind 134 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: of like more acquaintances than friends, So I thought it 135 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: would kind of be an easy relationship there. I think 136 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: I'll still remain a little diplomatic about it and say that, Like, 137 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: I think I'll just like our personalities. 138 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: We're smart women. We can read between the lines, and 139 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: you tell me what you want and I'll hear what 140 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 3: I want. Yeah, yeah, I'll say there was a conflict 141 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: and personality trait. 142 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: I like that. 143 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: Is this like the time that I lived in a 144 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: sharehouse and my vegan housemate throughout all of my met 145 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 3: oh gosh, from the freezer that my mum had like 146 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 3: pre ziplocked for me because I was at Uni and 147 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: that stuff was expensive, so you like froze everything. And 148 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: I came home one day and she just said she 149 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: couldn't mentally deal with having dead animals in her freezer. 150 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: Is it like that? Okay, it wasn't that hectic. Definitely 151 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: not that hectic. 152 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: Did your housemate borrow your underwear? 153 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: Because minded we respected each other's stuff. Still, I just 154 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: kind of felt like I couldn't be within my own house. 155 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: Of course, No, that's worse. You can throw away my 156 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: meat and steal my underwear, but don't make me feel 157 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: not welcome in my own home. 158 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 2: Honestly exactly. So yeah, I pretty much just breached breaking 159 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: point and decided that it's not worth my mental health. 160 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. 161 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't really have any money still, Like I 162 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: sort of went in there with the idea of saving more, 163 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: but I didn't really end up doing that. So my 164 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: parents were like, their bedroom is there, you can come back, 165 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: which was so lovely of them. 166 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so good. That's such a privilege to have, 167 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: but also just so nice to know that you've got 168 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: somewhere to land. Tell me, I'm going to be pervy. 169 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: Tell you moved into a share house to save money, 170 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: but then you said I didn't really why it happened. 171 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: I think the intention was there, but once I moved in, 172 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, look how much more money I 173 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: have to Yeah, live, love last. 174 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: And yeah, I totally get it. 175 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I had the intention, but not really 176 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: the building blocks to do so at that time. And 177 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: we also we had quite a nice house as well, 178 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: even though like my rent was like four hundred dollars less, 179 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 2: Like we had a cleaner come in every fortnight to 180 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: do like the bathrooms and the floors, which I had 181 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: never experienced before. So that was lovely. 182 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty nice. 183 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: We had like a bit of like a kitty of 184 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: like a money pool of like any sort of things 185 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: that we needed that were shared. Then we'd just put 186 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: some money into it each month for a Fortnite. I've 187 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 2: forgot how much it was, so yeah, I think it was, 188 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: even though I was saving on rent that were kind 189 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: of like other creeping expenses in there that I wasn't 190 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: quite expecting. 191 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: But we're still nice at the time, and it's so 192 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 3: easy as well to just feel like, oh, yeah, I'll 193 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: do that, like a cleaner every two weeks, split between 194 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: my housemates. Like that's not hard, that's good. Yeah, and 195 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: then it's one thing after another. 196 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: Right. 197 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: This is why I'm always so i won't say strict, 198 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: but very positive about budgeting and going no, no, no, like, 199 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 3: let's just write it all out, let's make sure that 200 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: we document everything, because it's the plumber with a leaky tap, 201 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: Like the second you start to not care that much, 202 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: she just filters away, and then all of a sudden, 203 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 3: you've lived in the sharehouse that you were meant to 204 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: save money, and you're like, where's the money? 205 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: Though I'm not doing much saving, but I'm also. 206 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 3: I don't even like living in this sharehouse and I 207 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: don't have any money. This is a bad deal. 208 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: I seem to keep ordering Uber each as well. 209 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 3: Oh that's easy, isn't it my weakness? 210 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? Fair? 211 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 3: All right, so you've moved out or you've decided to 212 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: move back into your parents' bare bedroom. At that point, 213 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: were you like, look, and I know in your diary 214 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 3: you said I felt like I was failing as a 215 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: fresh thirty year old. 216 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 217 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 3: Did you then go, you know what, I need to 218 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: whip it into shape. I'm going to start budgeting. I'm 219 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: going to look at my cashlough or were you just like, Okay, 220 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: I've moved in with mum and dadd and now just 221 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: saving is easy? Like what was that process? 222 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: I really didn't have a clue at first. It was 223 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: really like figure out my next move, figure out where 224 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 2: I'm going to rent met next, I'll save up for 225 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: a moving truck. It really only became long term once 226 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 2: I decided what that money goal was going to be. 227 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: But it was really my sister. She kind of said 228 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: to me, don't make living with the parents not worthwhile. 229 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: I like it, let's do something with that money. Though 230 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: You're not like spending on rent. Let's not like with 231 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: it that away. So that was like a huge breakup 232 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: for me that I could actually, well, I had this 233 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: opportunity to save quite a lot of money whilst I 234 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: was living there. 235 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is that is very good advice. So what 236 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: were your first steps? Was it just put some cash away? 237 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: Was it make a plan? What did it look like? 238 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: Especially because you said you knew nothing, you were like, 239 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing, Like help, Yeah. 240 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: So I think the first thing I did I did 241 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: pretty much an audit of everything that I paid for. 242 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: So seeing as I was no longer paying like internet, electricity, 243 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: rent or anything like that, I kind of looked at 244 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: how much I was spending in subscriptions and lifestyle and 245 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: discretionary things. I think I was there for about a 246 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: month or so or something, and then my mum sent 247 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 2: me this article saying that you can soon afford to 248 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: purchase your first home with only a two percent deposit. 249 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: Which is a big money. 250 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: We be thought that it was kind of like, oh, 251 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: maybe I'll save for travel, like we'll see kind of 252 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: like where it goes. So the intention of saving was there, 253 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 2: but I didn't really have like a set goal in 254 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: mind yet until that article came up and I was like, 255 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 2: this is what I'm going to do. Just just where 256 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: my focus is going to be. 257 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: That's very cool. So tell me a bit more about 258 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: your thoughts. I guess just on property, because you said 259 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: that the article was the thing that made you feel 260 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: like you could even think about property. Was that something 261 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: that you were like, one day, I'll own a property 262 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: or were you just like Nope, it's completely out of reach, 263 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: that's not for me, or like, at what point did 264 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 3: you ever consider it or was it only a goal 265 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: because you read this article. 266 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: I always liked the idea of owning. My sister bought 267 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: her place, a couple of friends bought their place, my parents' 268 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: own had the family home, and then they sold it 269 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: for a downsize. But I think it just always seems 270 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: so out of reach financially, Like I think I'm very 271 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 2: privileged on the income that I am on and that 272 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: I can't afford to live alone as a single person. 273 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 2: But given the economy, I was like, it's going to 274 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: be near possible for me to even build up a 275 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: deposit within a certain amount of time, or even service 276 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 2: a mortgage. Really, so I really had my head in 277 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: the sand about it being like, that's just not a 278 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: thing that's going to happen, so I may as well 279 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: not think about it. 280 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it feels overwhelming until it became sort of 281 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: something that I could do, yeah, which I think is 282 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: really cool because there are so many options on the table. 283 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 3: And I guess that's why I'm asking because so many 284 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: times And this goes back to what I was saying 285 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: before about you know, we have these stereotypical ideas of 286 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: what a property is going to look like once we're thirty. 287 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: I feel like, in my head thirty year olds when 288 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: I was like twelve, those people were proper adults. They 289 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: had their stuff together. Yeah, they carried briefcases, you know, 290 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: like very official adults stuff. And now I'm in my 291 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: thirties and I could not feel more underqualified if I tried. 292 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: And I like them. 293 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 3: What do you mean people let me leave a hospital 294 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: with actual children meant to look up? There was no 295 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: like signature I needed, there's no vetting criteria. You mean 296 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: you trust me because I'm an adult, Okay, But when 297 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: it comes to property, I think that there is this 298 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 3: now outdated idea that the only way you can get 299 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: into property is that you have to have your twenty 300 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: percent deposit and also buying a property in Melbourne or 301 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: in Sydney, it's going to cost you at least a 302 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: million dollars and I think that that just makes you 303 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: go absolutely not, that's not on the table for me. 304 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: So we don't even look into what our options are. 305 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: But it's twenty twenty six and unfortunately the options on 306 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: the table do look different. You're not going to be 307 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: able to buy the family home, but you know what 308 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: you can do. You can buy apartments, you can buy 309 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 3: smaller rural properties, you can buy properties that are a 310 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: stepping stone towards that family home. And Florrie you're saying 311 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: it's not that hard because you did it. 312 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: I really feel like if I can do it, anyone 313 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: can do it. That's just it. 314 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 3: Like, I'm just a girl. How hard could it be? 315 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean as a single person as well, I 316 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: always thought like you needed like a partner or a 317 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: double income to be able to buy property. M hm. 318 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: So I'm really quite sort of proud of myself that 319 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: I was able to achieve it. 320 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: I'm proud of you, and I'm glad that you're proud 321 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: of yourself. Not just going oh yeah, like the amount 322 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: of people that I talked to that are in your situation, 323 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: they go, yeah, but I did use this scheme, or 324 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: they go yeah, but yeah it's only an apartment. Like no, 325 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: that's sick. You're on the property ladder, Like that is 326 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: so cool? And sorry, what a money when you're paying 327 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: less in mortgage repayments than you were in rent? Genius. 328 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was looking at rent. I bought in Hawthorne, 329 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: and I looked at rent recently and you really conquer 330 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: a decent or spacious one bedroom apartment for under five 331 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: hundred dollars a week. 332 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: Oh no, you can't. Not in Hawthorne. 333 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: No. 334 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: Hawthorne for those of us playing along at home is 335 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: a suburb that I would say is inner city in Melbourne, 336 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: and it is beautiful, really nice, quite a leafy suburb, 337 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: like lots of properties that I have clients buying. Actually 338 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: because my just for the record, guys, I like it 339 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: because my offices are in Hawthorney's But lots of those 340 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: older Art Deco style apartment complexes with like six to 341 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: eight apartments in the building. What kind of apartment did 342 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: you buy? 343 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: Sixty seventies red brick yes, about twenty of them. 344 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, good and good body corp fees, Great bodycrep fees. 345 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: Is there a lift in the building, no lyft Yeah, 346 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: money means. 347 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: Very kind of set on. No lift. I don't want 348 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: to be paying for those, right. 349 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: And once you start looking into the property space, you 350 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: often look at apartments You're like, wow, that's so shiny. 351 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: There's a pool, there's a lift, and all I can 352 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: see is dollar signs because I'm like, cool body corporate maintenance. 353 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: You technically own that lift and have to pay for it. No, 354 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: thank you. I don't want to own a lift. 355 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: That realization hit hard because like when you're looking out 356 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: like a new builds or something like that, they have 357 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: like the rooftop garden and yeah, like you were saying, 358 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: the pool and all of those other things that you 359 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: need to services like shared property, it's like two thousand dollars. 360 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: Thank you, but no thank you. And also the older buildings, 361 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: so you said you've got one of the red brick ones, 362 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 3: which are fantastic. The rooms in those properties are bigger, 363 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: like the walls are actually insulated because they are made 364 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: of brick, which is obviously great for sound but also 365 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: for heating and cooling, Like I could go on and 366 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: on about how much I love old apartments as opposed 367 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 3: to new build, like, you will not catch me purchasing 368 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: a new build. Not to say people shouldn't do it, 369 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 3: but I just have a very special place in my 370 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: heart for those like older style. You know, ideally six 371 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: to eight in the apartment block if I were looking, 372 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: But twenty I think is pretty good too. I'm assuming 373 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: it's just like a bigger complex. But no lift money win, 374 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 3: ground floor money win. Oh you've got a ground floor one. 375 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: Oh she's lucked. All right. 376 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask more about this in a hot second, 377 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 3: but I need to know. You mentioned you've got a 378 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 3: diploma and a degree. What do you do for work 379 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 3: and how much do you earn? 380 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: My diploma and degree is an interior architecture, and for 381 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 2: work I work as a retail designer. Very cool. My 382 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: title is officially interior designer. But then people get confused 383 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: thinking I'm doing residential and really I'm stuck into the 384 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 2: retail fit out space and it's a lot more construction focused. 385 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 3: I would say, what can you give me an example 386 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 3: of what that would look like? So you like kind 387 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: of fitting out shops and designing, like how shops are 388 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 3: laid out, but you're saying it's more industrial. What does 389 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: that look like? 390 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: One of my clients, they're predominantly in Westfields. Yeah, so 391 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: they'll leasing will come in and say, we have a site, 392 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: can you please design it and fit it out for us? 393 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: And so that's when I jump in and do a 394 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: concept for them of like a space layout with walls 395 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: and fixtures that they have and all of that. It 396 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: can be for news or refurbishments, expansions. 397 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: Hey, that's cool. 398 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so yeah, I design that for them and 399 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: then that gets approved and then I do the construction 400 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: drawings which are lighting and electrical and that is very 401 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: cool get into the full process of it. 402 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: I feel like you're the first like interior designer that 403 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 3: we've had on the show, which is very cool. There 404 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: aren't many careers I haven't had. Tell me, what do 405 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 3: you get paid for this role? 406 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: I recently got a pay rise which is very exciting 407 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: or it was just in time for money mortgage. 408 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 3: Ah, congrats. 409 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: So it is eighty six and a half k including 410 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: super very cool. 411 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: And is that something that you're like, this is the 412 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: career that I'm going to have for the rest of 413 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: my life, or like what does your career trajectory look like? 414 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: Like what do you want to do next? 415 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: I really like the retail space because it works really 416 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: quickly compare to like residential design and more of that 417 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: sort of complexity of other interior design like hospitality about 418 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: where you're designing restaurants or something. I really quite like this, 419 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: but honestly, like, I don't know where I'll be in 420 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: five years. Maybe I'll be more in like a design 421 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: studio doing hospitality like I just said, or maybe I'll 422 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: still be in the job that I'm doing now, which 423 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: I'm enjoying. I love that my managers are actually based 424 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: in Byron Bay, so I work it at home. 425 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: Fus very cool. So when you were purchasing the house 426 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: that you purchased, was a very good work from home 427 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: space like a priority or you one of my friends 428 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 3: who just goes, I'm very happy to work from the 429 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: dining table. 430 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: I definitely considered it, being like it has to be 431 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: a certain size where I feel comfortable being in it 432 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: the entire day and I'm not going to lose my mind. 433 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was definitely consideration. I'm still working at 434 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: my dining table, but it's big enough to feel like 435 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: there's separation within the home, so I can kind of 436 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: still switch up afterwards. 437 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like you're a designer, so you 438 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: would know how to lay it out very well. I 439 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: also have another question, which is not related to finance 440 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: at all. Were you really good at the sims growing up? 441 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: Because I just feel like that would be hand in hand. 442 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: I loved the sims growing Yeah, I couldn't tell you 443 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: if that's where that whole thing started, but I cared 444 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: more about making the houses than I did creating a 445 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: sim me too, and then I was kind of done 446 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: with it after I made that house. 447 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: Yep, no, me too, But I'm terrible at it. So 448 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 3: I used to like look up all the houses on 449 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: forums and then copy other people's stuff because I genuinely 450 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: had no creative bone in my body to be able 451 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: to do that. But I could do the maths and 452 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: work out like what roof pitch you needed, that's fine, 453 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: how big the rooms were, could count, but could not 454 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: design them. But it was so fun. And I used 455 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: to be so envious of the people that would be like, oh, 456 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: look at this house I made. I'd be like, how 457 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 3: did you come up with that in your brain of 458 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 3: the super creative. Yeah, so you were one of the 459 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: girlies that designed the houses on the Sims not removed 460 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: the poor stairs. I like it both, Oh both, you know? 461 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: I mean we can all identify as that person. 462 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: Bring the grim Reaper to see what happened. I's bunting 463 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: on fire. 464 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what that says about us, but I 465 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: don't want to find out. 466 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: We're just curious people. 467 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 3: So you've bought your first home, which is super super exciting. 468 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 3: What now, after you've moved in? Is your big money goal? 469 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 3: What are you currently working towards. 470 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: I've been seen as I've pretty much spent all of 471 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: my money on mister property. It's rebuilding that savings again 472 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: and emergency fund. I don't have any specific goals in 473 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: mind at the moment, but it's much kind of like 474 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: that safety net. 475 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: Now I have a mortgage, Yeah, so fair And have 476 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: you worked out what that looks like? Have you gone, oh, 477 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: that's three thousand dollars or is that you know, ten 478 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: thousand dollars? Or you just go, oh, I don't know, 479 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: I just need some savings. V Do you know what 480 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 3: that looks like? 481 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: Don't know? What it looks like at the moment. I 482 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: have some money in my offset account that was from 483 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: the buffer that my conveyances didn't use on settlement day 484 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: money win. That's pretty much my starting point, which I'm 485 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: happy with. Like that's not leaving that account anytime soon, 486 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 2: so yeah, very good starting point to have. 487 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 3: I think, all right, I'm going to set you up 488 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 3: with my money masterclass so you can work that out 489 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 3: and it will basically like take you through all of 490 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 3: your expenses and you'll be able to say what you're 491 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: spending each month to work out what kind of emergency 492 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: fund you want to set up. I'm going to do 493 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 3: that after because, like, girl, I can't have you living 494 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: in your new house not knowing what you want in 495 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: your emergency fund. 496 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: That is a no no. 497 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 3: But I also have a heap of questions for you. 498 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: So let's go to a really quick break and on 499 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 3: the flip side, I want to know more about this purchase. 500 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: I want to know about what you spent on the property, 501 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: what it's cost you, how long it took to find 502 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: I've just got a million questions, So guys, don't go anywhere, 503 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: all right, money dirist. We are back and I feel like, 504 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: you are honestly so inspiring. This is such a great 505 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: money diary. You are single, You've just purchased your first 506 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: apart department on your own. You're not some millionaire, like 507 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: your income is eighty six ish thousand dollars, which I 508 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: think a lot of people in our community are on. 509 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: And you were saying before money Dhrist you were like, well, 510 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: if I can do it, anyone can do it. Why 511 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: do you think that? Why do you think that if 512 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: you can do it, other people can do it? Because 513 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 3: you only need a two percent deposit, It's a scheme 514 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 3: that I'm you one hundred percent. I know that it's 515 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 3: very limited, but I think for the place that I got, 516 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: I only needed probably nine K for a deposit. Isn't 517 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 3: that crazy? 518 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. 519 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: So tell me about that process. So your mum sent 520 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: you an article and it was about the two percent 521 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: deposit scheme which is called the help to Buy scheme 522 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: here in Australia, and it is open to all first 523 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: home buyers up to certain financial caps. So you can't 524 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: go buy like a two million dollar property on this 525 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 3: help to buy scheme, which is absolutely fine because it's 526 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: helping the people that need it. So you found a 527 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: good mortgage broker and then. 528 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: What I actually found him on TikTok. 529 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: You found him on TikTok book. 530 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: A gamble because he was the only mortgage broker talking 531 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: about the help to Buy scheme, and it was the 532 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: best gamble I had ever made, because he knew the 533 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: ins and outs of every other scheme. He was very 534 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: sort of scheme specific. There wasn't much information at the time. 535 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 2: This would have been maybe May to June of last year, 536 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: so barely anybody knew about it. Even real estate agents 537 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: didn't even know what I was talking about when I 538 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: mentioned it. And he just helped me out from the 539 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: get go, saying this is what we know so far. 540 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 2: He was great with any kind of communication, very cool 541 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: and like he would phone me up being like, we 542 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: have new information, here's what you need to know. But yeah, 543 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: he sorted everything out for me. We were really unclear 544 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: on dates. The government weren't giving us any kind of 545 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: information on dates. I was bringing up pals in Australia 546 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: every week, being like, anu information of when this is 547 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: going to be released and their and every single time 548 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: was end of twenty twenty five, end of the year. 549 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: Then there was a little hiccup where they kind of 550 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: announced that it would be March of this year instead. 551 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 2: But then randomly I got a call from my broker 552 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: one day in December and he's like, it's opening next week. 553 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 3: How good's that? 554 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: And like we were all ready to go. I didn't 555 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: have pre approval yet because he couldn't get pre approval 556 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: without the approval of the scheme. He had to reply 557 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 2: for them at the same time. Yeah, absolutely, so, yeah, 558 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: it was crazy. But in preparation from about like I 559 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: was making spreadsheets of different scenarios of what I could 560 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: do with my borrowing capacity. He was looking up what 561 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: banks were most likely to be with the scheme. I 562 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: went to a first home buyer night held by Emily Wallace, 563 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: who's a buyer's advocate. I couldn't afford it buys because 564 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: they're fifteen to twenty grand or something like that. This 565 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: info night cost me probably fifty dollars and it was 566 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: one of the best resources I got from this whole journey. 567 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: That gave me my conveyancer, sort of like word of 568 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: mouth from her of who to go with, which is 569 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: really good. And yeah, just a lot of podcasts, so 570 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: many podcasts on property and money, how to save money 571 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 2: better faster? Yeah, very good, more efficiently. 572 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 4: I love that. 573 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: And what did you learn through that process? Have you 574 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: changed like your whole banking system or you just like 575 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: this is more about mindset or what are you getting 576 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: out of the content that you were consuming? 577 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 2: It was really a lot about mindset. I really wanted 578 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 2: to know as much as I could about the market 579 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: as well and what I was kind of getting into. 580 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: And I think for the money bit, Like I went 581 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: into a high interest savings account, which was great because 582 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: more money I put in it, the more interest I 583 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 2: got out of it. 584 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, money that your money makes makes money, and that 585 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: is a good deal exactly. 586 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: I'm a person who really loves organization and planning, and 587 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: if I really have my mind set on something, then 588 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: like I want to know every single little bit about it. Like, 589 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: my financial literacy was at an almost zero this time 590 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,239 Speaker 2: last year compared to what it is now. 591 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: I love that, but also I wish you had more sooner. 592 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: But we find financial literacy at the time that we 593 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 3: need it, I think, So talk to me. If you're 594 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: into financial literacy, do you have investments, If so, what 595 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: are they? If not, what's the plan? 596 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: I do have Stuper Actually that is one of my investments. 597 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: I downloaded Chersias last year. We're saving with the intention 598 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: to dabble in it, but I got a little overwhelmed, 599 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: so we didn't. 600 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: That was okay, That is okay, And I feel like, 601 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: let's just focus on one big money gold at a time. 602 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: Let's do property first. 603 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: Okay Exactly, I'm like, let's just focus on actually saving 604 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: for a place now, and then we can do shares. 605 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: Like ye, and so is the plan to get back 606 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: into shares or is it? I feel like right now 607 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: your priorities are probably emergency fund, some more savings, and 608 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 3: then we can probably talk about it. 609 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: Definitely, So it's definitely emergency fund at the moment, and 610 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: then you're building up some savings. So like if a 611 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: big bill comes from body corporate or something, then I'm 612 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: not scared of it. But then like I've also been 613 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: looking into like Vanguard and maybe going into like getting 614 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: some shares out of that or very Fair. 615 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: So now I want to ask about debt. So I'm 616 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: going to rewind and not ask about your house. First, 617 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: you said you had a credit card, and like when 618 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 3: you moved back in with your parents, who got out 619 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: of a little bit of debt. What did that look like? 620 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: I got a credit card, which, looking back, I'm not 621 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: sure was the right credit card. It was like one 622 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: of the Commonwealth ones where there wasn't interest. It was 623 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: just like a monthly fee that you paid instead of interest. 624 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: But that had a three thousand dollar cap on it, 625 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: which I was happy with. I think the three thousand 626 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: dollars was a good cap to have for me because 627 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: it meant that it was easy enough to get out 628 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: of it if I needed to. 629 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: Compare to a life Yeah, it's not astronomy twenty thousand dollars, 630 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 3: which is a little hard. Oh yeah, one hundred percent. 631 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: But did that still make you feel stressed? 632 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: Like? 633 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: Were you using that whole three thousand dollars and paying 634 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 3: it off monthly or were you, you know, carrying over 635 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: some debt. If so, what was it for. 636 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: I didn't max it out monthly, but I still kind 637 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: of did minimum repayments where I could, so it was 638 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: always kind of lingering. And then you're paying like the 639 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: twenty five dollars for not paying off the full amount 640 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: at the end of the month and that so it 641 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: was just kind of sitting there for quite a while. 642 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: And I wasn't really using it too much because it 643 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: already had that kind of almost maxed out debt on it. 644 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: But when I moved in with the parents, I was like, 645 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: it reduces my borrowing capacity if I have a credit card. 646 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm going to pay this off 647 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: first before. 648 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 3: Anything absolutely, and then started absolutely. Now tell me about 649 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: the property purchase. You paid off your credit card, you 650 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: started saving. You told me before that you probably only 651 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: needed a nine thousand dollars deposit for this property because 652 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 3: you used the two percent help to buy scheme. Tell 653 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: me what did the property end up costing you? 654 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: So the full property is four hundred and fifty thousand, 655 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: I only really needed a nine K deposit with the 656 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: two percent scheme, but I actually ended up giving a 657 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: fifteen K deposit to be more competitive and flexible with 658 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: the vendor. My mortgage broker as well, seeing as the 659 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: scheme was quite new, we also got a deposit bond 660 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: to make the vendor feel more comfortable with that kind 661 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: of size of a deposit. And so my boring capacity 662 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: was three p forty deposit fifteen grand and with the 663 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: full mortgage being four fifty the government gave me ninety 664 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: five thousand, so it was about twenty two to twenty 665 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: one percent instead. 666 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: Of the full thirty Yeah, which is insane. So tell 667 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 3: me more about this ninety five thousand. How does that 668 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: work for you? 669 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: It works for me, and that I have a mortgage 670 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: that's one hundred thousand dollars less than what I would 671 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: be paying in monthly repayment. 672 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like, what are the catches? I feel like 673 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: lots of people are going to go, hey, that's fantastic, 674 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: the government gave you ninety five k. Like, I'll do 675 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: a lot for the government to give me ninety five K. 676 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: I don't just give it a twe you forever. Yeah, 677 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: there's like a little something in something. Tell me about that. 678 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: With the ninety five k, you can buy out the 679 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: government eventually if you want to in five percent increments 680 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: I think, which is definitely my goal to do to 681 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: own the property fully one day. But it just means 682 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: that if you don't pay them, they're thirty percent back. 683 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: It means that when you sell, they also get a 684 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: thirty percent profit with it as well. 685 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: Yes, so they're kind of like a co owner of 686 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 3: your property exactly. And so people playing along at home 687 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: you can have the government co own up to forty 688 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: percent of your property. I don't believe you've got that though. 689 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 3: What's your percentage? 690 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: My percentage is thirty percent, But if it's a new bill, 691 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: you can get up to forty percent. Yeah. 692 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, So at the end of the day, there is 693 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 3: like a little bit of a catch, but you can 694 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 3: pay them off over time, and a lot of people 695 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 3: that we talk to are planning to pay them off 696 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: right before that they sell, because it's just pay off 697 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 3: the amount, then sell it and you keep your own profit. 698 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: But if your property has increased in value and then 699 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 3: you sell it and you haven't paid the government back, 700 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: you have to give them their profit as well. So 701 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: I feel like it's a kind of good deal because 702 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 3: if you can't afford to pay them back, well, no worries. 703 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 3: They can have some of the profit as a thank 704 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 3: you so much for joining and helping me get to here. Otherwise, 705 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 3: no worries. But also if you don't make a profit, 706 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 3: you don't have to pay them any of the profit. 707 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: Right Yeah. My perfect scenario is the market dropping and 708 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 2: that's when I pay them back. 709 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 3: That would be great. I feel like that's genius, like 710 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 3: bold move and like so many people are saying that 711 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: the market's going to drop fingers crushed. I mean, I 712 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 3: don't know many homeowners who can't wait for my property 713 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: to decrease in value because it's going to. 714 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 2: Be a lead to back the government. 715 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 3: Hey, we don't need to add that part. We can 716 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: just be a little bit a lulu about it. So 717 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: what is your property worth now? Because you bought this 718 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: last year for four hundred and fifty thousand dollars, is 719 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 3: it still worth that you haven't done evaluation or what 720 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 3: are we looking at? 721 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: I bought it just before Christmas, so it's still very fresh. 722 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: I put in a split system, so maybe it's like 723 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: a grand more than what originally love. 724 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 3: But now, tell me about the process of finding an 725 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: apartment because the area you purchased in, so we know 726 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 3: that you've purchased in inner city Melbourne. It's very competitive. 727 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: Finding not only an apartment in Hawthorne is hard, but 728 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: finding one that would fit the criteria of any scheme 729 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 3: is even more competitive because there are lots of people 730 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 3: who want that exact apartment. How did you do it 731 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 3: and how long did it take? 732 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: Pure luck? No, So I started looking in June when 733 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: just for research purposes because I knew that I still 734 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: had to build my savings, but I wanted to see 735 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 2: what I could get for any kind of amount of money. 736 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: I went to auctions as well to see how people 737 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 2: did that. But in doing that, it really kind of 738 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: developed a criteria of what I really wanted with in 739 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 2: a space. And then from that everything laid right into 740 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: place for me at the perfect time, because I think 741 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 2: it was. 742 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: You can say lucky, because I feel like, we know 743 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: what you mean. 744 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: The government announced that the scheme was going to open 745 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 2: up in a week, and then I found the perfect 746 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 2: off market property again on TikTok, and it was just 747 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: the perfect place. I was initially eyeing this like forty 748 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 2: square meter place in Hawthorne which was like a newer build, 749 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: so higher Body corporates in that as well, and then 750 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 2: I actually put in an offer on another place and 751 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: showed my cards too quickly, so I lost it. I 752 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: got really nervous when they were like, we have another bidder, 753 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 2: and I was like take all my money. 754 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 3: You're like, aha, I'm glad you lost out because it 755 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 3: came to this one. 756 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, and it really is the perfect place. So yeah, 757 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 2: I did like a couple of inspections. There was a 758 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: bit of back and forth with negotiating with the vendor. 759 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 2: There was somebody else who was also eyeing the property 760 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 2: as well, but I just ended up being the winner 761 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 2: of this time. 762 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 3: I love that. I also love that you used the 763 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 3: term luck after telling us how long it took you 764 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 3: to research the scheme, work out what that looks like, 765 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 3: working with your broker, saving really hard. You had been 766 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 3: looking for a property since June and then obviously brought 767 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 3: in December, and then you're like, oh, but it was 768 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 3: just luck, Like I didn't do all of this work. 769 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 3: It's crazy how lucky we get. 770 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: When we were it was a lot of planning and 771 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 2: then it just kind of fell into playing. Nope, I 772 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: do know what. 773 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 3: I totally get it, and I called myself really lucky 774 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 3: all the time. But I feel like that undermines the 775 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 3: fact that you put in a lot of time and 776 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: energy and effort, and you know what that means. You 777 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 3: were prepared to seize the opportunity. But if you hadn't 778 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 3: done any of that preparation, that opportunity would have just 779 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 3: gone straight by because you wouldn't have been able to 780 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 3: seize it. 781 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. 782 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's almost like it wasn't luck. 783 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 2: It was very strategic planning exactly. 784 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 3: She's got strategy or I want to know. 785 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 2: Next. 786 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 3: One of the things I talk about all the time 787 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 3: that is really important to me is insurance. How are 788 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 3: you protecting your wealth? How are you protecting your home? 789 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 3: Your income? Have you got personal insurances? If not? 790 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: Why not? So in my superfund, I have a little 791 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 2: bit of personal insurance which is actually in review at 792 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 2: the moment because I just adjusted my numbers to be 793 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 2: able to protect myself better and my income. Good girl, 794 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 2: And so that will be income protection and TBD and 795 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: I forgot what the other one is, but yeah, so 796 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 2: that's currently in review with the insurance company. So fingers 797 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: crushed that comes through. So look at you go. 798 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 3: The amount of people I talked to, they're like, oh no. 799 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 2: I'm too much of a paranoid person to let that fine. 800 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 2: I love that, all right, too anxious. 801 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 3: You did tell us earlier that you think you're only 802 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 3: a C or a C plus, And I've just heard 803 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 3: so many good money habits. What do you think your 804 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 3: best money habit is? 805 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 2: I touched on it a little bit with the offset account, 806 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 2: but I create kind of rules for myself. So like 807 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 2: when I was saving my high interest savings account was 808 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 2: labeled do not touch good girl in caps luck but 809 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 2: it worked. 810 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 3: Didn't actually work. Did you try and go in there 811 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 3: and then you saw and you went, damn it past me? 812 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 3: Really foiled that plan? 813 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: What you're like, can a lot of touch us? And 814 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 2: I changed the name of that before pre approval so 815 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 2: the bank wouldn't laugh at me. But yeah, I just 816 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: said sort of rules for myself of like I'm never 817 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: allowed under a certain amount, and like my bank account, 818 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: just so I don't feel like financial stress. Yeah, just 819 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 2: like mini rules like that. I think is my best 820 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: money habit. 821 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 3: So you make rules that only you follow, the only 822 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 3: you know and it works. Yes, I like it, BECASO 823 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 3: tell me what is your worst money habit? 824 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 2: So I think I haven't done this for a very 825 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 2: long time because I have been living at home and 826 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 2: have had the fortune of my mum's cooking. 827 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 3: That's the best type of cooking. 828 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 2: My worst money habit would be why uber eats? 829 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 3: What are we ordering? Why is it such a bad habit? 830 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 2: I'm a girl of convenience, yes, fair, I don't cook 831 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 2: a whole lot that's about to change because I can't 832 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 2: afford that lifestyle anymore. Yeah. Absolutely, But previously I would 833 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 2: definitely say tuber eats, and I wantn't be surprised if 834 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 2: that creeps back in a tiny bit. 835 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 3: I feel like you need to budget for it still though, because, 836 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 3: like as you said before, you're single, you live alone. 837 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie back when I was single, even 838 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 3: though I lived in a sharehouse situation, I wasn't cooking 839 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 3: for anybody else. The motivation required to cook a meal 840 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 3: and go to the supermarket and buy all of the 841 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 3: stuff required, and I just knew I wasn't walking out 842 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: of that supermarket having spent less than thirty dollars in 843 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 3: my brain just be like, oh, I probably should just 844 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 3: get takeaway, Like I can justify it for you, so 845 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 3: call me. 846 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: And then it's like, you also have a meal for 847 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 2: five people. Gee, you've got leftovers for the rest of 848 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 2: the week as well, so you have to eat it 849 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: every single day exactly. 850 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 3: You're like, that's not what I want. I can only 851 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 3: have so much curry, exactly. 852 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: I make a really good curry, but I only want 853 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 2: it at least twice a week. 854 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And there's only so much freezer space to 855 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 3: save all of the portions before I forget what's in 856 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 3: my freezer. 857 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes restaurants just do it better than home cooking. 858 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 2: They really do. I get it. 859 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: I do. 860 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 3: But at the same time, we need to be good 861 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: at this stuff if that's what we want to achieve. 862 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 3: All right, money Diarist, we have gone through you being 863 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 3: an absolute weapon at being able to save, and you've 864 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 3: gotten your financial literacy but kicked over the last twelve months, 865 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 3: you've gotten rid of your credit card, you've paid it off, 866 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 3: like you're rebuilding your savings. Like I really think that 867 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 3: you have a very positive money story, and I'm so 868 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 3: excited for our community to to learn from it. But 869 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 3: what I want to know is do you really think 870 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 3: that after learning all of this about yourself, or even 871 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 3: just having a chat about it, would you go, oh, yeah, 872 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 3: that person's a C or a C plus. 873 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe like a subtle bee. Still yeah, I still 874 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 2: feel like there's room for growth. 875 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 3: You're allowed to let there be growth. But I feel 876 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 3: like if you heard this money story back before you 877 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 3: had done it yourself, you would have been like that 878 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 3: girls so smart, Like look at all the stuff she's done, 879 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 3: she got it together, she's killing it. I think you 880 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 3: would have given yourself a bit more credit. 881 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe for the last year. I'll give myself 882 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 2: an A. I'll give that version of myself. 883 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 3: And A and we'll continue it. We'll average it out 884 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 3: over the next five years, and then it can absolutely 885 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 3: be super easy. 886 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 2: We'll buy out the full property. 887 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're going to have a decline in the 888 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,439 Speaker 3: property market. 889 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 2: I like it. Yeah, pulled it. I love it. 890 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 3: Money does. This has been an absolute pleasure getting to 891 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 3: know you and having a chat about the scheme that 892 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 3: you used and what you're getting up to, because I 893 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 3: just think we don't talk about what accessible home ownership 894 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 3: looks like enough, and stories like this absolutely make it 895 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 3: so much more motivating for people our age to go. Actually, sorry, 896 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 3: she's single and killed it. I can absolutely do that. 897 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 3: So I hope it inspires even just one person to go. 898 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 3: Maybe that's for me. So thank you so much for 899 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 3: joining us. 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