1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: The Jersey demanded show as we know it started in 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: the aftermath of the two thousand and four tsunami in Pouquet. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: An undersea earthquake sent enormous way. Since then, we've been 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: here as you're constant, while the world changed, social media 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: climate changed. Three for brock Oil wedding, I follows matter. 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: For respect like a sentinel. 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: We have watched over the world since two thousand and five, 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: and thanks. 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: To a detailed set of diaries that Jonesy has kept. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Well they're kind of detailed, but we do have a 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: time travelers podcast of a highly successful radio show. Highly 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: successful a podcast of a moderately successful radio show. 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: All right, well let's begin, shall we. 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 3: Well, here we are ways back in two thousand and six. 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: Oh, we're still in two thousand and six. 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: We're in two thousand and six. I'm just looking at 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: my diary from March of two thousand. 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: How are we going? In March? 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: We weren't doing so well. 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: In fact, I was reading a newspaper clipping it says 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: here Vagaer owners DMG has problems with Nova's American rosso 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Breakfast Show, continuing its slide down the ratings ladder. 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: So did we take their place. 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: No, the biggest fall of the survey belonged to last 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: year's flyer, Jonesy and Amanda. They dropped one point two. 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: We were down on a six point four in ratings terms. 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: Did we quit and go? I can't remember. I can't 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: remember what did we throw in a towel? 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: I think we were doing okay? 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: Then we were coming a mid midfield midfield that in 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: that point. But as an interesting time, we were on 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 1: the TV show Clever. 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: Do you remember the TV show Clever, hosted by. 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 4: Georgie Parker and Jeff Watson and Scott Lamb who I 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: knew from beyond two thousand, yeah, and Joe Stanley Shoe sternly. 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: And it was a show that was looking at to 37 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: sort of approve or dispunk some scientific theories, is that right, 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: and experiment with sciencey stuff. 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it didn't really have a raise on detra 40 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: What was the what was the risk? And you and 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: I were on opposing sides and Joe Stanley was your 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: captain on your side, Scott cam was my captain on 43 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: my side. And I remember the night it was me, 44 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: Scott cam and Steve Irwin of all people, and the 45 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: risk at the end of the show was they had 46 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: this globe of death. You know, motorcycles go in the 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: globe of death and right around and we were to 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: the losing side that one of their nominated members would 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: have to stand in the globe. 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: Of well, motorcycles rode around you. 51 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so it ended up that our side lost 52 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: against your side. And then this floor guy came up, 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: floor manager and said, look, we've just talked to Work 54 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: Health and Safety and you guys can't we can't put 55 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: someone from your team in the globe of death. And 56 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: I said, ah, and I wasn't really jazzed about. Steve 57 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Irwin was incensed. He said, well, what's the point of 58 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: the show, and like you really fired. 59 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: Up, and you know, well, it's his nature he'd get into. 60 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: That, Steve and sort of what And I said, mate, 61 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: I just don't think they want you to die on 62 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: Telly And he said I'd love that. 63 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: He actually said he'd love it. 64 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: He didn't mean that, no, no, of course no, but 65 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: he just said I understood the jeopardy that Steve was about, 66 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: and really that's how he lived his. 67 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: Life, that's how he was a risk taker. 68 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: But do you remember that that show they wanted us 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: to come back as regulars on the show. 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: And then we said, okay, that'd be great, and we 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: kept waiting and waiting and waiting. Well, welcome to television. 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: The show got acts. 73 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: What happened was I remember being in a Channel nine 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: and they had whiteboards up and they had your role, 75 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: my role money had been negotiated, and I thought, this 76 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: is happening. And I remember I talked to the producer. 77 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: I'd said, so we're filming next week? 78 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: Is yep? 79 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: Yep? 80 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: Yep? 81 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: Next week came I said, so we're still filming. Yep, 82 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: tomorrow we're filming. And then probably about the afternoon before 83 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: the next before the show was supposed to go to 84 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: air or to be recorded, the agents rang up and said, yeah, 85 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: bad news. 86 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: I'm afraid they're they're not going ahead with it. I said, well, 87 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: it's all canceled. 88 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to television. 89 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: And that is the start of my disappointing television career, 90 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: which has been beyond disappointing for me because that year 91 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: was also the year that around that time, Who Wants 92 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: to Be a Meanaire rang up and they wanted me 93 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: to screen test for the role as Eddie McGuire. 94 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: Well, so Eddie had been hosting it. Eddie was then 95 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: offered the job to be the big Kahuna of Channel nine, 96 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: so he would have had to step away from hosting 97 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: duties and this would have been the gig of your career. 98 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: Well, it was the running It was the running joke 99 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: around everyone. Have you been rung up about me and air? 100 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: And I didn't think I would be the remotest chance whatsoever. 101 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: So one day I get a call from Channel nine. 102 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: We would like you to come in and test for 103 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: who wants to be a Meiannaut? And I went and 104 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: I thought it was someone having a joke and I mean, yeah, 105 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: that's funny. And in the end they flew me down 106 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: to Melbourne, had the whole set there, everything was there, 107 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: it was all happening. 108 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: You get to play with the questions and the lights 109 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: and all of that, you. 110 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: Do all the stuff, and they had the studio audience 111 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: and I remember standing backstage about to come on and 112 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: I thought, this is this is great, this is going 113 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: to be such a and then a. 114 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: Great gig, I've got, you said, not realizing it was 115 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: an audition. 116 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to my first audition. I really thought that I 117 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: did a good job of it. And this is what 118 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: I've learned about TV. No one tells you anything. 119 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 3: No one rang me back, no one said anything. 120 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: Eddie decided to go on the show and hang on 121 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: my phone, it's here. 122 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: No still hasn't, so Eddie decided not to leave. 123 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 3: After all that, Eddie decided not to leave. 124 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: He wasn't going to be manager anymore, so he was 125 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: going to go back and host that show. The thing 126 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: about a game show like that, once you get it, 127 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: if you're good at it, you can do it for 128 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: the rest of your life, you know. And this has 129 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: been proved by the multitudiness other shows that I've gone 130 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: for that and have never got And I find it 131 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: very hard. It's actually soul destroying because you're I'm like you, 132 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm task driven. You go there, they say we want you, 133 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: we want you, and it's not me seeking this stuff out. 134 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: I don't say the agents get me on the show. 135 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: They ring me and then they say, well, we'd like 136 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: you to come in, and so I even say to them, now, look, 137 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm the guy that you want, and 138 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: that makes them even more. I guess what's the word, 139 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, adamant? And then you go there and then 140 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: they go with Uscha Ginsburg or Grant Danya or one 141 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: of those, Larry Imda or larryer Well the chase that 142 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: was the worst one. 143 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: That was twenty nineteen. 144 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: That was terrible to chase or that was my last 145 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: TV audition because I said no about five times because 146 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: I knew that it was terrible. 147 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 3: What was happening with Andrew o'keeith. 148 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: And they said, look, we really got a vibe on 149 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: you doing this show, and I thought, okay, So I 150 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: went to Melbourne and to do the chase. To host 151 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: it is very, very hard. There's a lot of questions. 152 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm exhausted watching it, and yeah, how articulate you have 153 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: to be? And how and this is real money and 154 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: real people. You can't stuff it out. 155 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: And you don't know how you go. You go there 156 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: and everyone says, oh, you did well, but you don't. 157 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: And I just if you don't get the job, you 158 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: haven't done well. You know, I haven't made a joke. 159 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: Said why don't you just give it to Larry MdeR 160 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: he works with a network already, which they did, and 161 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: it makes sense. Larry has hosted. 162 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: Don't be disheartened. There's still the Pepper Pig, Christmas PANDEMI, 163 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: I'm looking for a host, but. 164 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: It's curious about who wants to be a millionaire? Because 165 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: me going for who wants to be a millionaire? 166 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: Begat you going on Dancing with the Stars, And you 167 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: had said no to Dancing with the Stars. 168 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: So it started in two thousand ands. 169 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: I was asked to go in the first series and 170 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: I said, why would I dance on television? 171 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: And they had two series a year. 172 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so by you said no, they'd always say 173 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: we want you for the show. 174 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: We won't for the show. But because of my who 175 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: wants to be a mellionair thing? You thought? What was 176 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: your thoughts? 177 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: I tell you what I thought is that my history 178 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: is television. I started working in television as a producer, 179 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: as a segment producer. I was a traveling producer, reporter. 180 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: And then when I started doing radio, I still always 181 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: did TV on the side. And then i'd kind of 182 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: nothing had happened for little while, And when you said 183 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: you were all these TV things were happening, I thought, 184 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: I can't afford to just curl up in a ball 185 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: about this, So you know what, I'll put my hand 186 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: up for dancing with the Stars. And another reason I 187 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: did is that I just wanted to challenge myself physically. 188 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm not a physical person. When I look back at 189 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: it now, I had a five year old and a 190 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: three year old and I was doing breakfast radio, and 191 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: I look back now, I think, how the hell did 192 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: I cope? 193 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: It was? 194 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: I had a different Dancing with the Stars experience to you. 195 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: You enjoyed it. I found it really hard. I loved 196 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: the rehearsing. Charbor was a brilliant dance partner, and I 197 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: loved the rehearsals, just the two of you in a room. 198 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: You've got music. As you say, I am task driven, 199 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: so learning the steps. I took enormous pleasure in learning 200 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: the steps. 201 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: But you were good. 202 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 2: No, I wasn't, because then I hated that it became 203 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: a competition. I remember there was one day when we're 204 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: just training up the road from our radio station here, 205 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: and they said, Darryl Somers is in Sydney and he's 206 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: coming to watch you. And suddenly, you know, you think 207 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: you're pretty good, and suddenly you just move like a Clydesdale. 208 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: How I was so intimidated that suddenly it started to 209 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: feel real. I thought what have I done. 210 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: I remember that day in the studio because I was 211 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: there for some reason to record you and Darryl there 212 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: and there's Daryl. 213 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: It was like the queen who had rot Yeah, yeah, 214 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 2: and well you could just visit him. I had to dance, 215 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: that's rateful. 216 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: So you danced in front of Daryl. 217 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: Daryl threw money into a hat. No he didn't say anything. 218 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: But it was the worst version of any dancing I'd 219 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: ever done. And then when the competition started, I liked 220 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: it less. As I said. It was fun to learn it. 221 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: It was a great way to stay fit after having 222 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: two children. I had my first baby at thirty nine, 223 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: and I thought this is something I'll do for me, 224 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: and luckily my family at home supported me through that. 225 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: But gee, you know what it's like. You fly to Melbourne, 226 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: do the radio show here. You fly to Melbourne, you 227 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: rehearse the next day, you do the radio show, you 228 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: do a live television dancing at night, fly back to 229 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: Sydney the next after doing a radio show, and then 230 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: learn a new dance. I found it all very hard, 231 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: and I realize now I've had a hip replacement since then, 232 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: because I was born with hip displasia, and so on 233 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: one side that had developed into arthritis, but not on 234 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: the other side. But I still had hip dysplasia. So 235 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: I'd subtly been walking strangely my whole life, and here 236 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: I am in high heels, stomping around like a Clydesdale. 237 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: When I think back of it now, to it now, 238 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: it's almost like it happened to somebody else. And in 239 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: the early days of Dancing with the Stars with Pauline Hanson, 240 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: you just had to come out and switch your skirt 241 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: and people go, oh, bravo. Every season it got harder 242 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: and harder, so yours was harder than mine still, but 243 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: you had to I found it so hard. And this 244 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: is what people love about watching that show is that 245 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: they see someone who's worked hard at their career having 246 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: to do something they're not good at, and they hear 247 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 2: judges say no, I didn't like it, and they watch 248 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: you have to suck it up, and girls take it 249 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 2: harder guys, because guys get an easier run. I'm going 250 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: to come out and say it. On Dancing with the Stars, 251 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 2: guys get an easier run. Just you know, a footballer 252 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: takes his shirt off and you get a round of applause. 253 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how hopeless you are. People laugh at men 254 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: dancing badly, but they expect women to be good. And 255 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: that's what's really tough, I think, And it's really awful. 256 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: For one week you're told this dance starts with leaning 257 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: in on the heel. Next week it's on identical dance, 258 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: but you have to lead by moving your toe. You know, 259 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: it's just inexplicable, and if you've never done it before, 260 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: it gets highly technical. It's not just feeling the rhythm 261 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: and dancing. It's highly technical. And then to have someone 262 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: judge you on the technique is really really hard. I 263 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: feel like saying, I learned this yesterday, come and do 264 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: my job. But that's what they want to see. You 265 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: get angry. They want to see it. 266 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: But you were good for you were good. You were 267 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: better at learning it than I was. 268 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't because there's a maths there's a maths component 269 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: opponent with the dancing, which I found very very hard. 270 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: Do you on your particular alma mater? Who did you have? 271 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: You had? Chris Hemsworth. That's right, that's what I was doing. Now. 272 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: I know you're supposed to watch yourself back to get better. 273 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: I never watched a frame of it back I just 274 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: as I said, there's a lot going on in my 275 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: life with little kids. It was almost like post traumatic stress. 276 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: At the time, I didn't I couldn't watch last week's dance, 277 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: and I would have improved by doing so. I just 278 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: couldn't do it. So I have never seen it. And 279 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: then when I was asked to host it, I thought, 280 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: well that this will make me a sympathetic host because 281 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: IVE seen what they've all done. And I think it's 282 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: a shame though that the new incarnation of it now 283 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: on Channel seven, it's not live. And the whole point 284 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: of it is knowing that those celebrities are suffering this 285 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 2: very second. That's the pleasure of it is now I 286 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: remember that bit Brendan. You'd go out the back just 287 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: before you went on stage and there's a scrubbing brush, 288 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: a wire brush. You'd brush the bottom of your shoes 289 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: so you wouldn't sleep, and you put your feet in 290 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: the water so you wouldn't sleep over. And that's the 291 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: thrill of watching it live is at any minute, someone 292 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 2: could fall over, someone could wet their pants, someone could 293 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: forget an entire routine. 294 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: You did all that in one go. 295 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 2: If it's not live, what's the point You did a cartwheel? 296 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: Oh? 297 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 2: Remember that. I had to train to do a cartwheel. 298 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: And once again, if I'd watched it, I could have 299 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 2: seen what I was doing wrong. I just couldn't allow 300 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: my center of gravity to do it. I sounded like 301 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: a shrieking chimpanzee and my cartwheel was so all over 302 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: the place. And each week you're supposed to listen to 303 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: what the judges say. I just thought. I just thought, 304 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: I'm just going to turn up and survive. I didn't 305 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: really listen to what they said. And I realize now 306 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: they will only mark you higher if they think you've 307 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: listened to them. So we had the song Black Betty 308 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: from Spider Bait, and that was we made that into 309 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: a rumber or something. It was good, and we were told, oh, 310 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: the judges weren't like that, and I thought, who cares? 311 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: And then they would give you a two because they 312 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: didn't like the music. You think, oh, maybe I should 313 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: have cared. So it was such a mixed bag, and 314 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: when it was all over, I just this huge cigh 315 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: of relief. I'd enjoyed that I'd done it, but I 316 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,479 Speaker 2: didn't mind getting out. 317 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: It feels you feel a bit empty when you get 318 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: when it, when it finishes, they don't because all of 319 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: a sudden you've got all this time. 320 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. You think, Wow, all those hours, 321 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: what do I do with them? And suddenly, well, as 322 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: we know, you just fill the space with other stuff. 323 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, other stuff comes along. 324 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: But I remember my kids came and they were in 325 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: the audience, and that you know, three and five, those 326 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: little gem children sitting in the audience with their big eyes. 327 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: Oh it was. 328 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: Beautiful watching mum scream doing a cart. 329 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: With scream and squeal like a badch Yeah. 330 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: I think they came the week that I sang that. 331 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: I sang that I danced to what's that song by 332 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: the pussy Cat Dolls Buttons Undo my buttons or something. 333 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: So that's nice, sexually inappropriate. What was your highest score 334 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: do you remember? 335 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: I don't remember. Maybe I got an eight. I think 336 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: I ate that That was the best I ever did 337 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: was the night that they were there. How about you? 338 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: My best score? All I wanted to do was get 339 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: a seven, and I never got. Someone gave me. 340 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: A seven, mistake, didn't I give you a seven? 341 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: Seven? Game? 342 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: Todd gave me seven by mistake. Adam Gas gave me 343 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: a seven, and Kim Johnson gave me a seven, but 344 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: I think because they just felt sorry for me, and Todd. 345 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Todd never gave me one like Mickey Webster. He didn't 346 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Nicky Webster me. But I got a lot of twos 347 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: off Todd. But it's funny having a chat with Todd 348 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: because I'd like to think we're friends, and. 349 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: Well, i'd like to think I was too. But he 350 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: went hard. 351 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: Well I said to him, I said, mate, go as 352 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: hard as you want. 353 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: It's a difference. 354 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: But I'm not a dancer. And I used to say 355 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: this to you. 356 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: You're not a dancer. I'm not a dancer. It doesn't matter. 357 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: If I was getting judged on what I do now, 358 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: I would take that time. 359 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: See, that's what your brain says, is that I'm not 360 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: a dancer. So you know who cares. But maybe guys 361 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: have find it better when they say, mate, you're hopeless, 362 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: and guys go, I know, if they say that to 363 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: a woman, you're hopeless, somehow it feels different, and I 364 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: don't know why, but it does. 365 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: So I find it harder. 366 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: It's harder to you know, doing the TV auditions than 367 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: it was doing Dancing with the Starts. That's harder because 368 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: there's so much more investment. 369 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: Did you And I. 370 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: Don't know if these TV executives even know how much 371 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: it draws out of me. 372 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: When they asked me to do this stuff. 373 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: It actually you know, they probably said he a happy, 374 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: go lucky guy, but it actually destroys me. It Actually 375 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: it takes me ages to get back from it because 376 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: you don't and no one wrings your back. No one 377 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: says you did. 378 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: Great, but no one cares about this. You and I do. 379 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: But in this industry, and we've chosen this industry, our 380 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: homework gets marked publicly. Yeah, and we have to suck 381 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: it in. 382 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: And I got to take it. 383 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about I haven't even had the chance 384 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: to go public with it. 385 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: Is my point. 386 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: You're in your bedroom, finishing your home. 387 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: What I mean is I e haven't got past you know, 388 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: every audition I've done from me like okay, Millionaire the Bachelor. 389 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: The Bachelor was the. 390 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Reason I ended up on Dancing with the Stars because 391 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: I was that was a lock apparently. 392 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: And I remember the call I had the. 393 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: Bachelor call and then Dance with the Task call I 394 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: said to my agent, who we share the same agent. 395 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: I said, well, you know what should I do? And 396 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: she said, well, just tell seven that you'll do it. 397 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: But you know the Bachelor that's a lock. And I said, so. 398 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: I'm not dancing and she said, you won't be dancing. 399 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 2: She was right. 400 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: And then what else was there? Family feud and there's 401 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: there's like shows that never even made it to end. 402 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: You know, there's just but the industry is full of it. 403 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: There's probably people like me. But what I'm saying is 404 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: I just can't do that anymore. So when they asked me, 405 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: I just say I just can't do it. 406 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: And you will. 407 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: You said that, You've said that as long as I've 408 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: known you. And someone to find up this after and 409 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: and say we're filming a new documentary, a new show, 410 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: Beard of Bees. Will you be in it? And you will? 411 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 3: Beard of Bees? I heard they give you a dog. 412 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: It's my phone ringing now. 413 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: I like radio. I like this, this is good. I 414 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: like being with you. 415 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: Oh what a shame. I've got some news. 416 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: What are you to do? 417 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: I'm doing Beard of Bees? 418 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 3: Well you took my gig, I'm. 419 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: Sure, and I am doing it. 420 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: You're both doing Beard of bees. Damn it, there was mine. 421 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: Well it's been very has a sip of water. 422 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: Let's all have a sip of water and we'll catch 423 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: you next time on our podcast. Well our ratings go up, 424 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: I hope, So, I hope we end up doing the 425 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: show for a lot longer. 426 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: You know what I've gleaned from all of this, isn't 427 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: it funny? All of these experiences mean nothing apart from 428 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: when I've written down here five and three the ages 429 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: my children were. Just to go back to that for 430 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: a day, to when my children were five and three. 431 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd give anything. 432 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: Now I'm going to go and cry. 433 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: I was there again. Jack and nappies? Was he had 434 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: a nappies? Both three? 435 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: What do you be? Let's hope that would toilet. Yeah, 436 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: they would toilet. 437 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: Try say, we won't say which one. We don't want 438 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: to shame them. 439 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: Deep breath and we'll see you next time. 440 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: Catch you next time. 441 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: For more Jonesy and Amanda podcast, download the free iHeartRadio app.