WEBVTT - FULL SHOW: Imaginary Ducks & Google Glasses

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<v Speaker 1>A good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.

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<v Speaker 2>Bady what our windows down?

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<v Speaker 3>My world?

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<v Speaker 1>Reason the dust only good bad dog all down. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't much, but yeah I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll big get and what I want.

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<v Speaker 4>It don't matter where. This is the.

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<v Speaker 5>Pickup, Hi, guys, it's the pickup with Britt Hockey and

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<v Speaker 5>Laura Burn.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's Tuesday, and I feel like I have been

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<v Speaker 4>hit by a bus my body. Let me just get

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<v Speaker 4>you up to speed here. I for some reason said

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<v Speaker 4>yes to Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 2>You said you were enjoying it last week.

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<v Speaker 4>I am enjoying it like most days mentally. But I

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<v Speaker 4>thought I was relatively fit and healthy, like you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, you know, I've got a base level of fitness.

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<v Speaker 2>I love sports.

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<v Speaker 1>I can kick a ball. I went in there, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, because you're a baller. Now you love basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a baller.

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<v Speaker 4>In my spare time, I shoot some hoops. So I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm going in there with this really solid foundation.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my sull god, my whole body is bruised and batter.

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<v Speaker 1>They supply you with a phisio. They're like, if anyone

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<v Speaker 1>needs physio, I'm booked.

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<v Speaker 2>In every day. I need everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, He's like, what's the problem today? I was like

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<v Speaker 1>my own childer knee rib hip.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that that's the most of your worries, though.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw one of your dancing videos and your foot

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<v Speaker 5>keeps getting caught in your skirt. I think the wardrobe

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<v Speaker 5>malthfunction is a bigger worry for you at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>So we did somebody we did.

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<v Speaker 5>I did because I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>A baller, I'm a hooper.

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<v Speaker 4>We did some like a dress rehearsal, and my heel

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<v Speaker 4>keeps getting stuck in my skirt and literally like basically

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<v Speaker 4>pulling it off my body.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, at least we know that's gonna make great TV

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<v Speaker 5>when it does eventually happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Raon't give me more points? No, I mean you're on it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, when you make a mistake, they say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>if you make a mistake, you have to play on.

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<v Speaker 4>If my skirt is off and I'm in a G string.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that play on? Or do you stop down?

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<v Speaker 2>Play on?

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<v Speaker 1>In a g stream?

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<v Speaker 2>Just go for gold drop it.

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<v Speaker 5>Your legs are looking so good that actually you might

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<v Speaker 5>get extra points if you.

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<v Speaker 4>Think I am sashing around a dance floor on national

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<v Speaker 4>television and a g banger.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you have to wear like skims underneath. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>we can unpack.

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<v Speaker 2>That another day. Look, we've got a very big show

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<v Speaker 2>coming up for you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>There is a man in Australia who's currently being investigated

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<v Speaker 5>by her police because he's been wearing these sunglasses which

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<v Speaker 5>are now available, which actually record whatever it is that

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<v Speaker 5>he's seeing. I hate this and women have been caught

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<v Speaker 5>out by his secret filming of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's so shitty.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's something I want to talk to you about, Laura.

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<v Speaker 4>There is an American TikToker here in Australia at the

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<v Speaker 4>moment that basically a lot of women are saying leave,

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<v Speaker 4>go back home, like you should not be allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>be in Australia and doing what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So his name is It's Polo Kid. That's his like

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok Instagram name. He's this huge TikToker. He's got like

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<v Speaker 1>one point two million followers.

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<v Speaker 4>He's famous for filming videos where he hits on women,

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<v Speaker 4>like he'll go up to them wherever he is, he

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<v Speaker 4>hits on them. He has some banter, he posts it

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<v Speaker 4>and it goes viral. The problem is he's in Australia now,

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<v Speaker 4>he's actually in Sydney at the moment, and he has

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<v Speaker 4>got these new glasses that Raise have produced. So Rayband

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<v Speaker 4>have produced these glasses that look identical to a normal

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<v Speaker 4>pair of ray Bands, but they film, They literally film

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<v Speaker 4>whatever he's looking at. So he has been walking up

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<v Speaker 4>to people like women on the beach in their bikinis

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<v Speaker 4>whatever else. These women do not know they're being filmed.

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<v Speaker 4>He's hitting on them, having these conversations with them, filming

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<v Speaker 4>them while they're in their wimen where, posting it without

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<v Speaker 4>their consent.

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<v Speaker 1>And these videos are going viral.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, surely if someone like Rayband's making glasses, there's

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<v Speaker 5>something on them. Like, I don't understand how you can

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<v Speaker 5>make a pair of glasses look identical to a normal

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<v Speaker 5>pair and then still be able to film.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have look at this. They're exactly the same as

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<v Speaker 1>ray Bands.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, They're like, there's nothing no.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is where it gets worse, right, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is what's really grinding my gears. Women have found out

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<v Speaker 4>through other people that they've been filmed.

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<v Speaker 1>They have messaged him.

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<v Speaker 4>To say, hey, I did not consent to this, I

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<v Speaker 4>did not know take my video down and he's blocking them,

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<v Speaker 4>like block delete.

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<v Speaker 2>Can just keep in contact for clout.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'm just getting my head around the idea of

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<v Speaker 5>these glasses. It's wild that in itself is like exploiting

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<v Speaker 5>these women, but it's so dangerous for so many other reasons,

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<v Speaker 5>Like you could walk into a public change room and

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<v Speaker 5>be wearing those sunglasses. Like I think about going to

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<v Speaker 5>the beach and walking into like a beach change room

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<v Speaker 5>where women might be naked or people might be naked.

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<v Speaker 5>It seems like something that should be illegal. Like it

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<v Speaker 5>seems like something that if someone's wearing that, at least

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<v Speaker 5>if someone's got a phone in their hand, you can

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<v Speaker 5>kind of tell if someone's filming because of the way

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<v Speaker 5>they've got to hold their phone. So totally wearing glasses,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like they can get away with it without being detected.

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<v Speaker 2>And what are they using that for?

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<v Speaker 5>Like what about kids in parks or there's so many

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<v Speaker 5>environments that make the people that are being filmed very vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so problematic even just like this is top level,

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<v Speaker 4>what you just said is so much worse, But just

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<v Speaker 4>think about like walking around your office or something, or

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<v Speaker 4>your boss or whoever it is wearing these glasses and

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<v Speaker 4>filming everything that happens, things that you think of private

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<v Speaker 4>conversations to use against someoney.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where it's going to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, I think this is going to be used for

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<v Speaker 4>some really negative, malicious things.

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<v Speaker 1>More so than it's going to be used for good

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<v Speaker 1>in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're going to do this, RAYBN needs to make

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<v Speaker 4>something where if it's in cord mode, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how it works, maybe are lights on it, maybe it

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<v Speaker 4>changes color.

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<v Speaker 1>Like people need to be aware that they're being filmed.

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<v Speaker 4>I know in Japan you cannot take a photo on

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<v Speaker 4>a phone in Japan without it making the shut a

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<v Speaker 4>sound like it goes so that everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Is aware if there are secret photos and videos being taken.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's really brilliant.

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<v Speaker 5>In Australia, especially in useft Wales, because I'm sure the

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<v Speaker 5>laws are different in every state, but it's illegal to

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<v Speaker 5>record someone without their consent in usef Wales and can

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<v Speaker 5>carry up to five years imprisonment.

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<v Speaker 2>We even know this from radio, Like we've got to.

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<v Speaker 5>Make people aware that they're being audio recorded for radio.

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<v Speaker 5>We can't just secretly record them. And if something secretly recorded,

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<v Speaker 5>you have to get their consent in order to play

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<v Speaker 5>it out.

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<v Speaker 1>But then how did paparazzi get away with that? Then

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<v Speaker 1>are they in media? So it's like a different law

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<v Speaker 1>because they film people all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it is because if you are deemed as

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<v Speaker 5>a public figure, or you're deemed as a celebrity personality,

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<v Speaker 5>then you kind of off limits from those sort of exemptions.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's interesting because having like a random dude

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<v Speaker 5>hiding in a bush taking videos of you and your

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<v Speaker 5>kid is very very intrusive.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've talked about this before.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I remember that years ago, they got you breastfeeding,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was like one thing, take my photos I'm

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<v Speaker 4>walking on the street. Another thing to impose on such

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<v Speaker 4>a moment and then like display that all over the news.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, I remember turn I was sitting on the grass,

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<v Speaker 5>like in a park with a girlfriend of mine, having

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<v Speaker 5>a chat, and I was breastfeeding my oldest daughter now

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<v Speaker 5>and I remember looking across and he literally was hiding

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<v Speaker 5>behind like the side of a wall and a bush,

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<v Speaker 5>and I just saw the black lens of the camera

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<v Speaker 5>And it wasn't until later that I saw who it

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<v Speaker 5>was that walked past. I recognized the paparazzi and I

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<v Speaker 5>was so enraged because I was like, you just hid

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<v Speaker 5>to take photos of me feeding my kid? How is

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<v Speaker 5>this news? And how is this something? It felt, and

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<v Speaker 5>how is it okay? Yeah, it felt so invasive. I

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<v Speaker 5>can only imagine how these women felt, especially probably humiliated.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest, I think kick him out. I can

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<v Speaker 1>go back to America.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean he should be in a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>trouble for doing these types of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>I had possibly the most wildest and quick turnaround to

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<v Speaker 5>Africa in the last couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could say the weekend from hell almost.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel really.

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<v Speaker 5>Bad saying that, because we had this really beautiful reunion.

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<v Speaker 5>My husband was on im, get me out of here.

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<v Speaker 5>I took the kids over to South Africa for us

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<v Speaker 5>to have this like very genuinely beautiful moment on TV

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<v Speaker 5>where we got to see him again, and it was stunning, stunning,

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<v Speaker 5>so emotional, so beautiful, so many tears.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like there was not a dry ironshit. The

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<v Speaker 4>video was so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gone viral, but well, I mean there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of comments.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what constitutes viral these days, whatever, just

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<v Speaker 5>it's viral.

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<v Speaker 2>Go follow my Instagram Lady in Cat and Brittany Huk.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm joking, no.

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<v Speaker 5>But the thing is that I haven't really been able

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about and for any parent who has done

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<v Speaker 5>solo international travel with two young children, it's really really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have trouble on my own, and that's hard too.

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<v Speaker 5>But the thing is when you're traveling with two little kids,

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<v Speaker 5>like my kids are four and five and doing three

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<v Speaker 5>separate flights, which was what our trip over to South

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<v Speaker 5>Africa was. It was like twenty four or twenty five

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<v Speaker 5>hours of you as travel to get to see mat

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<v Speaker 5>and we had the tantrum to trump all tantrums. So

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<v Speaker 5>we got to Singapore and we had a one hour

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<v Speaker 5>layover and I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Not think it was the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 5>I get them off the plane and like they are

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<v Speaker 5>so tired, absolutely wrecked, and on the plane they've both

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<v Speaker 5>been playing with this sticker book, like they both got

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<v Speaker 5>their own individual sticker books.

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<v Speaker 2>Such a good travel hack.

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<v Speaker 5>If you've got little kids on planes three hundred stickers each, Wow,

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<v Speaker 5>Like there's no way you're going to get through three

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<v Speaker 5>hundred stickers, Like we've got stickers for days. So we

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<v Speaker 5>get off the plane, and it's at that point that

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<v Speaker 5>Lola takes a single sticker from Marley's sticker book, just one.

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<v Speaker 5>The tantrum that followed that went for forty five minutes

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<v Speaker 5>until we boarded the next plane. Marley was so distressed

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<v Speaker 5>by losing one single sticker that she tried to get

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<v Speaker 5>naked because she couldn't handle the rage that she fell

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<v Speaker 5>in her body.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so angry, I must be naked.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what it is with my children that

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<v Speaker 5>when they're angry, they get naked.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Lola's been known to take your pants off.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't get nude when I get mad. I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna say, kids.

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<v Speaker 4>Usually learn from their parents. So do you and Matt

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<v Speaker 4>just have an argument of a dinner and something start

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<v Speaker 4>taking clothes off for different You cooked tonight, BRA's off?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you cook pants off?

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<v Speaker 2>No, we surprisingly don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's because they've got so much rage in

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<v Speaker 5>their little bodies and they need to get it out

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<v Speaker 5>in some way, and they know they can't hit their sister,

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<v Speaker 5>so instead they just strip. But this is the thing, right,

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes your kids will have arguments like the ground zero

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<v Speaker 5>of the argument itself is so dumb. It's so dumb

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<v Speaker 5>that it's almost impossible to have any like understanding or

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<v Speaker 5>reasoning or anything with the most outrageously stupid argument. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's where we were at in the middle of the night. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to make you feel a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 4>Bree just wrote in and said my son had a

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<v Speaker 4>tantrum because his ears were stuck to his head.

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<v Speaker 2>Bless him.

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<v Speaker 5>He's gonna be happy for that when he's older. My

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<v Speaker 5>husband had to have her what's it called ears pinned back,

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<v Speaker 5>and he paid a lot of money for that.

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<v Speaker 4>He wants to get them taken off, so I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think he's gonna okay. Hannah has written in and said

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<v Speaker 4>my toddler had a tantrum because she decided that she

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<v Speaker 4>hated her shadow and.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have weaver. She couldn't get away from her shadow.

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<v Speaker 1>Just turn the lights off. No, put it in a

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<v Speaker 1>dark room. Turn the lights off.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got Tory on the line. Tory, what did your

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<v Speaker 5>toddler have a tantrum about?

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<v Speaker 3>She was upset that the dog could not carry her

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<v Speaker 3>up the stairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Now dog, how big is the dog?

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<v Speaker 3>He's a French bull dog, very little.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she wanted to like ride him up the stairs.

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<v Speaker 3>No, she fully wanted him to use his paws and

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<v Speaker 3>carry her up the stairs. Oh bless, she threw herself

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground and she refused to come up.

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<v Speaker 5>So understandable. Understandable, Tory. Thanks for the call, Jess. We've

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<v Speaker 5>got Jess on the line. What did your told to

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<v Speaker 5>have a tantrum about?

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<v Speaker 6>She had a tantrum because we have two kitchen sinks

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<v Speaker 6>and she only wanted one.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids are so cooked?

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<v Speaker 1>Did she know that people would die for two kitchen sinks?

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, we're very lucky, Like that's last, that's expensive.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, it's not a fixable problem. They can't

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<v Speaker 6>remove one.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it about the two things that she was

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<v Speaker 2>particularly upset about.

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<v Speaker 6>I think she only had just realized we had two

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<v Speaker 6>because there's always been a cover on one of them

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<v Speaker 6>and I was cleaning it and so, yeah, not a

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<v Speaker 6>good morning. Absolutely melt down over the realization that we

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<v Speaker 6>had too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, her whole reality just changed. She freaked her out.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for the cor Jazz, Sasha, what did your toddler

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<v Speaker 5>have a tantrum about?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so was actually me that had the tantrum, But

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<v Speaker 7>essentially what my sister stole my imaginary Doug, and I

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<v Speaker 7>was in hysteric.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you meant as a kid you had a tan? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>No, But like, how did you know that she's stolen it?

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<v Speaker 2>If it was an imaginary I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I would have been like four. And I came out

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<v Speaker 7>and my sister then followed me, and she was patting

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<v Speaker 7>the air and said, nice jucky, nice ducky.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what, though, is if it's your imaginations

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<v Speaker 4>made believe and someone's gaslighting you into thinking that has

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<v Speaker 4>been stolen, I can understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you would have believed that.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, while your imagination sort of switched into your sister's narrative, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you're trying to breize in this bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>I am, I can understand this robotiz. Yeah, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>feel for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Sasha, how old are you now?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad that you've held onto this for all

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<v Speaker 2>these years.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope you got your imaginary duck back and your

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<v Speaker 5>parents intervene.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>I really did think though his question, like how old

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<v Speaker 4>are you when you stop having these tantrums? Because I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>like five, Marley's age five ish six, I thought that

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<v Speaker 4>was on the other end of tantrums like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Tired plays a massive, massive like a part

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<v Speaker 5>in this. Also, you know you're never too old to

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<v Speaker 5>miss your imaginary duck.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>We get asked a lot on our podcast, Life un

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<v Speaker 4>Cut podcast about wedding questions and Hen's parties questions.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a thread that's going off in the Mama

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<v Speaker 1>mea like community.

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<v Speaker 4>Facebook group that has sparked a really big debate surrounding

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<v Speaker 4>Hen's parties. So I'm just going to read it for you.

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<v Speaker 4>A pretty good friend of mine is having a Hen's party.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a two hundred and fifty dollars per person lunch.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to be a struggle to afford that in

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<v Speaker 4>our budget, especially when I have the wedding in a

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<v Speaker 4>few weeks, because I have to factor in expensive gifts, accommodation,

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<v Speaker 4>and baby. She's the type of person who is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be upset and angry if I don't go, and

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<v Speaker 4>it will likely damage our friendship. So she goes on

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<v Speaker 4>to say, like, knowing I can't afford it, do I

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<v Speaker 4>put myself and my family first and not go? Knowing

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<v Speaker 4>that she's got all these other expenses coming up, or

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<v Speaker 4>does she have to like make some really personal cuts

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<v Speaker 4>and cuts in her lifestyle and her family and home

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<v Speaker 4>life so that she can afford this really expensive lunch

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<v Speaker 4>so that she doesn't quote unquote lose her friend.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Ken's parties in general are getting too expensive,

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely really, And I get it, like, if you want

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<v Speaker 5>to do something nice for your pre wedding celebrations, often

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<v Speaker 5>that comes with a price tag. I mean, everything's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of expensive at the moment. But I don't think that

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<v Speaker 5>you can be angry at someone if they have said

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<v Speaker 5>that they're not able to afford it. Like I think

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<v Speaker 5>if it was free and they turned around and said, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I can't come, then you can have a reason to

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<v Speaker 5>be like, well, you're not prioritize so it's important.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they hate you, Yeah, But if you're expecting.

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<v Speaker 5>Someone to pay a lot of money to come to

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<v Speaker 5>the wedding, They've got to pay for babysitters, they've got

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<v Speaker 5>to buy a present, it's you know, they've got to

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<v Speaker 5>travel to the wedding. I don't I think that you

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<v Speaker 5>can be personally offended if someone tells you that they

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<v Speaker 5>can't afford to go to your hens party.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it makes you think like for you to make

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<v Speaker 4>the statement I might lose her as a friend if

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<v Speaker 4>I don't go, Like spoiler, that's not a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If a friend is going to drop.

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<v Speaker 4>You because you say you can't afford to go to

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<v Speaker 4>her HENS party, know when you're going to her wedding,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's a very good friend. But get this,

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<v Speaker 4>According to Wedded Wonderland, Ozzie's are spending on average six

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and fourteen dollars just on the HENS.

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<v Speaker 2>I that's crazy. I actually can't believe that. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that's too high.

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<v Speaker 5>And when I think about it, I'm like I would

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<v Speaker 5>normally I guess the kind of going rate amongst my friends.

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<v Speaker 5>In the past few HENS parties I've been to has

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<v Speaker 5>been over two hundred dollars, But six hundred seems absolutely crazy,

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<v Speaker 5>Like where are these people going. They're going away on holidays,

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<v Speaker 5>They're going away on mini vacations. Like it's one thing

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<v Speaker 5>to have a lunch for a Hen's party, it's another

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<v Speaker 5>thing to have like a full weekend away or something,

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<v Speaker 5>and expect everyone to pay that sort of money.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, even for the two hundred and fifty dollars for

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<v Speaker 4>this lunch, Like this question, it was just a lunch

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<v Speaker 4>and like true drinks or something. It's not like they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to a buffet. It's not like they're going on

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<v Speaker 4>a boat or it's nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like elaborate or luxurious. That's just like a standard eat lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>And what if you don't drink, Actually, that's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>other thing.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of people who don't drink these days,

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<v Speaker 5>and then they get footed with the same bill that

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<v Speaker 5>everyone else is, like out of coke zero. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know my thing is, and like, I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 5>I've already said it. But whatever hen's party you want

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<v Speaker 5>to have, it's absolutely fine. You can organize and do

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<v Speaker 5>whatever it is that you want to do, and it

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<v Speaker 5>can be whatever price you want it to be. But

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<v Speaker 5>you cannot be angry at people who don't want to go.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that at the end of the day, if

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<v Speaker 5>people opt in to spend that money because they want

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<v Speaker 5>to be there and because they have very happily voluntarily

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<v Speaker 5>paid that money. But you don't want people going and

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<v Speaker 5>putting themselves into a financial situation that is like too

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<v Speaker 5>hard for them simply because they're scared of disappointing you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's a terrible place to be as a friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally and my so my wedding later in the year

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<v Speaker 4>is international because my fiance is international Hyman's overseas, so

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<v Speaker 4>it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to cost a bomb.

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<v Speaker 4>But I had no expectations on anyone coming, and like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's on me and I put on the invitation. I

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<v Speaker 4>totally understand if there are people in a situation that

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<v Speaker 4>this is unfathomable for them. Unfortunately, as like an international couple,

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<v Speaker 4>this is how it is. But I don't want anyone

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<v Speaker 4>to feel bad or guilty or if this is not

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<v Speaker 4>on your agenda for twenty twenty five. And like, I

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<v Speaker 4>genuinely mean that I would not hold one thing against anyone.

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<v Speaker 5>That can't come, Britt, How would you feel if I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't come? Though, Mate, it's too expected.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to be diplomatic, Like, I know how much

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<v Speaker 2>you get paid, you're coming, We get paid the same amount.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, no, I if you actually said.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, I can't afford it, but oh yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>seeing what you spend your money on.

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<v Speaker 1>You're coming, you're covering.

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<v Speaker 2>You're there. But you know what even that got to

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<v Speaker 2>take the kids got to pay for nannies, like.

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<v Speaker 4>Tax deductible we'll do a podcast over there to a

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<v Speaker 4>radio show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a tax deduct Yeah, I'll make my wedding tax

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<v Speaker 1>to doc.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we need to stop talking about how it's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be your tax deduction.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that that ye not when joke. Yeah, taxing,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get out of you.