Speaker 1: A good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 2: Bady what our windows down?
Speaker 3: My world?
Speaker 1: Reason the dust only good bad dog all down. I
Speaker 1: don't much, but yeah I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'll big get and what I want.
Speaker 4: It don't matter where. This is the.
Speaker 5: Pickup, Hi, guys, it's the pickup with Britt Hockey and
Speaker 5: Laura Burn.
Speaker 4: And it's Tuesday, and I feel like I have been
Speaker 4: hit by a bus my body. Let me just get
Speaker 4: you up to speed here. I for some reason said
Speaker 4: yes to Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: You said you were enjoying it last week.
Speaker 4: I am enjoying it like most days mentally. But I
Speaker 4: thought I was relatively fit and healthy, like you know.
Speaker 4: I thought, you know, I've got a base level of fitness.
Speaker 2: I love sports.
Speaker 1: I can kick a ball. I went in there, and.
Speaker 2: That's right, because you're a baller. Now you love basketball.
Speaker 1: I'm a baller.
Speaker 4: In my spare time, I shoot some hoops. So I thought,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm going in there with this really solid foundation.
Speaker 4: Oh my sull god, my whole body is bruised and batter.
Speaker 1: They supply you with a phisio. They're like, if anyone
Speaker 1: needs physio, I'm booked.
Speaker 2: In every day. I need everything.
Speaker 1: Yep, He's like, what's the problem today? I was like
Speaker 1: my own childer knee rib hip.
Speaker 5: I don't think that that's the most of your worries, though.
Speaker 5: I saw one of your dancing videos and your foot
Speaker 5: keeps getting caught in your skirt. I think the wardrobe
Speaker 5: malthfunction is a bigger worry for you at this point.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: So we did somebody we did.
Speaker 5: I did because I'm.
Speaker 1: A baller, I'm a hooper.
Speaker 4: We did some like a dress rehearsal, and my heel
Speaker 4: keeps getting stuck in my skirt and literally like basically
Speaker 4: pulling it off my body.
Speaker 5: Well, at least we know that's gonna make great TV
Speaker 5: when it does eventually happen.
Speaker 1: Raon't give me more points? No, I mean you're on it.
Speaker 4: You know, when you make a mistake, they say, hey,
Speaker 4: if you make a mistake, you have to play on.
Speaker 4: If my skirt is off and I'm in a G string.
Speaker 1: Is that play on? Or do you stop down?
Speaker 2: Play on?
Speaker 1: In a g stream?
Speaker 2: Just go for gold drop it.
Speaker 5: Your legs are looking so good that actually you might
Speaker 5: get extra points if you.
Speaker 4: Think I am sashing around a dance floor on national
Speaker 4: television and a g banger.
Speaker 5: I think you have to wear like skims underneath. Anyway,
Speaker 5: we can unpack.
Speaker 2: That another day. Look, we've got a very big show
Speaker 2: coming up for you guys.
Speaker 5: There is a man in Australia who's currently being investigated
Speaker 5: by her police because he's been wearing these sunglasses which
Speaker 5: are now available, which actually record whatever it is that
Speaker 5: he's seeing. I hate this and women have been caught
Speaker 5: out by his secret filming of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so shitty.
Speaker 4: So there's something I want to talk to you about, Laura.
Speaker 4: There is an American TikToker here in Australia at the
Speaker 4: moment that basically a lot of women are saying leave,
Speaker 4: go back home, like you should not be allowed to
Speaker 4: be in Australia and doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: So his name is It's Polo Kid. That's his like
Speaker 1: TikTok Instagram name. He's this huge TikToker. He's got like
Speaker 1: one point two million followers.
Speaker 4: He's famous for filming videos where he hits on women,
Speaker 4: like he'll go up to them wherever he is, he
Speaker 4: hits on them. He has some banter, he posts it
Speaker 4: and it goes viral. The problem is he's in Australia now,
Speaker 4: he's actually in Sydney at the moment, and he has
Speaker 4: got these new glasses that Raise have produced. So Rayband
Speaker 4: have produced these glasses that look identical to a normal
Speaker 4: pair of ray Bands, but they film, They literally film
Speaker 4: whatever he's looking at. So he has been walking up
Speaker 4: to people like women on the beach in their bikinis
Speaker 4: whatever else. These women do not know they're being filmed.
Speaker 4: He's hitting on them, having these conversations with them, filming
Speaker 4: them while they're in their wimen where, posting it without
Speaker 4: their consent.
Speaker 1: And these videos are going viral.
Speaker 5: I mean, surely if someone like Rayband's making glasses, there's
Speaker 5: something on them. Like, I don't understand how you can
Speaker 5: make a pair of glasses look identical to a normal
Speaker 5: pair and then still be able to film.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have look at this. They're exactly the same as
Speaker 1: ray Bands.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, They're like, there's nothing no.
Speaker 4: So this is where it gets worse, right, and this
Speaker 4: is what's really grinding my gears. Women have found out
Speaker 4: through other people that they've been filmed.
Speaker 1: They have messaged him.
Speaker 4: To say, hey, I did not consent to this, I
Speaker 4: did not know take my video down and he's blocking them,
Speaker 4: like block delete.
Speaker 2: Can just keep in contact for clout.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just getting my head around the idea of
Speaker 5: these glasses. It's wild that in itself is like exploiting
Speaker 5: these women, but it's so dangerous for so many other reasons,
Speaker 5: Like you could walk into a public change room and
Speaker 5: be wearing those sunglasses. Like I think about going to
Speaker 5: the beach and walking into like a beach change room
Speaker 5: where women might be naked or people might be naked.
Speaker 5: It seems like something that should be illegal. Like it
Speaker 5: seems like something that if someone's wearing that, at least
Speaker 5: if someone's got a phone in their hand, you can
Speaker 5: kind of tell if someone's filming because of the way
Speaker 5: they've got to hold their phone. So totally wearing glasses,
Speaker 5: it's like they can get away with it without being detected.
Speaker 2: And what are they using that for?
Speaker 5: Like what about kids in parks or there's so many
Speaker 5: environments that make the people that are being filmed very vulnerable.
Speaker 4: It's so problematic even just like this is top level,
Speaker 4: what you just said is so much worse, But just
Speaker 4: think about like walking around your office or something, or
Speaker 4: your boss or whoever it is wearing these glasses and
Speaker 4: filming everything that happens, things that you think of private
Speaker 4: conversations to use against someoney.
Speaker 1: I think that's where it's going to go.
Speaker 4: Like, I think this is going to be used for
Speaker 4: some really negative, malicious things.
Speaker 1: More so than it's going to be used for good
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 4: If you're going to do this, RAYBN needs to make
Speaker 4: something where if it's in cord mode, I don't know
Speaker 4: how it works, maybe are lights on it, maybe it
Speaker 4: changes color.
Speaker 1: Like people need to be aware that they're being filmed.
Speaker 4: I know in Japan you cannot take a photo on
Speaker 4: a phone in Japan without it making the shut a
Speaker 4: sound like it goes so that everyone.
Speaker 1: Is aware if there are secret photos and videos being taken.
Speaker 1: And I think that's really brilliant.
Speaker 5: In Australia, especially in useft Wales, because I'm sure the
Speaker 5: laws are different in every state, but it's illegal to
Speaker 5: record someone without their consent in usef Wales and can
Speaker 5: carry up to five years imprisonment.
Speaker 2: We even know this from radio, Like we've got to.
Speaker 5: Make people aware that they're being audio recorded for radio.
Speaker 5: We can't just secretly record them. And if something secretly recorded,
Speaker 5: you have to get their consent in order to play
Speaker 5: it out.
Speaker 1: But then how did paparazzi get away with that? Then
Speaker 1: are they in media? So it's like a different law
Speaker 1: because they film people all the time.
Speaker 5: I think it is because if you are deemed as
Speaker 5: a public figure, or you're deemed as a celebrity personality,
Speaker 5: then you kind of off limits from those sort of exemptions.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's interesting because having like a random dude
Speaker 5: hiding in a bush taking videos of you and your
Speaker 5: kid is very very intrusive.
Speaker 2: And we've talked about this before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember that years ago, they got you breastfeeding,
Speaker 4: and that was like one thing, take my photos I'm
Speaker 4: walking on the street. Another thing to impose on such
Speaker 4: a moment and then like display that all over the news.
Speaker 5: Also, I remember turn I was sitting on the grass,
Speaker 5: like in a park with a girlfriend of mine, having
Speaker 5: a chat, and I was breastfeeding my oldest daughter now
Speaker 5: and I remember looking across and he literally was hiding
Speaker 5: behind like the side of a wall and a bush,
Speaker 5: and I just saw the black lens of the camera
Speaker 5: And it wasn't until later that I saw who it
Speaker 5: was that walked past. I recognized the paparazzi and I
Speaker 5: was so enraged because I was like, you just hid
Speaker 5: to take photos of me feeding my kid? How is
Speaker 5: this news? And how is this something? It felt, and
Speaker 5: how is it okay? Yeah, it felt so invasive. I
Speaker 5: can only imagine how these women felt, especially probably humiliated.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I think kick him out. I can
Speaker 1: go back to America.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he should be in a lot of
Speaker 5: trouble for doing these types of things.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: I had possibly the most wildest and quick turnaround to
Speaker 5: Africa in the last couple of days.
Speaker 1: I think you could say the weekend from hell almost.
Speaker 2: I feel really.
Speaker 5: Bad saying that, because we had this really beautiful reunion.
Speaker 5: My husband was on im, get me out of here.
Speaker 5: I took the kids over to South Africa for us
Speaker 5: to have this like very genuinely beautiful moment on TV
Speaker 5: where we got to see him again, and it was stunning, stunning,
Speaker 5: so emotional, so beautiful, so many tears.
Speaker 4: It was like there was not a dry ironshit. The
Speaker 4: video was so beautiful.
Speaker 2: It's gone viral, but well, I mean there's been a
Speaker 2: lot of comments.
Speaker 5: I don't know what constitutes viral these days, whatever, just
Speaker 5: it's viral.
Speaker 2: Go follow my Instagram Lady in Cat and Brittany Huk.
Speaker 2: I'm joking, no.
Speaker 5: But the thing is that I haven't really been able
Speaker 5: to talk about and for any parent who has done
Speaker 5: solo international travel with two young children, it's really really hard.
Speaker 1: Like I have trouble on my own, and that's hard too.
Speaker 5: But the thing is when you're traveling with two little kids,
Speaker 5: like my kids are four and five and doing three
Speaker 5: separate flights, which was what our trip over to South
Speaker 5: Africa was. It was like twenty four or twenty five
Speaker 5: hours of you as travel to get to see mat
Speaker 5: and we had the tantrum to trump all tantrums. So
Speaker 5: we got to Singapore and we had a one hour
Speaker 5: layover and I did.
Speaker 2: Not think it was the middle of the night.
Speaker 5: I get them off the plane and like they are
Speaker 5: so tired, absolutely wrecked, and on the plane they've both
Speaker 5: been playing with this sticker book, like they both got
Speaker 5: their own individual sticker books.
Speaker 2: Such a good travel hack.
Speaker 5: If you've got little kids on planes three hundred stickers each, Wow,
Speaker 5: Like there's no way you're going to get through three
Speaker 5: hundred stickers, Like we've got stickers for days. So we
Speaker 5: get off the plane, and it's at that point that
Speaker 5: Lola takes a single sticker from Marley's sticker book, just one.
Speaker 5: The tantrum that followed that went for forty five minutes
Speaker 5: until we boarded the next plane. Marley was so distressed
Speaker 5: by losing one single sticker that she tried to get
Speaker 5: naked because she couldn't handle the rage that she fell
Speaker 5: in her body.
Speaker 2: I'm so angry, I must be naked.
Speaker 5: I don't know what it is with my children that
Speaker 5: when they're angry, they get naked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lola's been known to take your pants off.
Speaker 2: Like I don't get nude when I get mad. I
Speaker 2: was gonna say, kids.
Speaker 4: Usually learn from their parents. So do you and Matt
Speaker 4: just have an argument of a dinner and something start
Speaker 4: taking clothes off for different You cooked tonight, BRA's off?
Speaker 1: No, you cook pants off?
Speaker 2: No, we surprisingly don't.
Speaker 5: I think it's because they've got so much rage in
Speaker 5: their little bodies and they need to get it out
Speaker 5: in some way, and they know they can't hit their sister,
Speaker 5: so instead they just strip. But this is the thing, right,
Speaker 5: Sometimes your kids will have arguments like the ground zero
Speaker 5: of the argument itself is so dumb. It's so dumb
Speaker 5: that it's almost impossible to have any like understanding or
Speaker 5: reasoning or anything with the most outrageously stupid argument. And
Speaker 5: that's where we were at in the middle of the night. Well,
Speaker 5: I want to make you feel a little bit better.
Speaker 4: Bree just wrote in and said my son had a
Speaker 4: tantrum because his ears were stuck to his head.
Speaker 2: Bless him.
Speaker 5: He's gonna be happy for that when he's older. My
Speaker 5: husband had to have her what's it called ears pinned back,
Speaker 5: and he paid a lot of money for that.
Speaker 4: He wants to get them taken off, so I don't
Speaker 4: think he's gonna okay. Hannah has written in and said
Speaker 4: my toddler had a tantrum because she decided that she
Speaker 4: hated her shadow and.
Speaker 1: It would have weaver. She couldn't get away from her shadow.
Speaker 1: Just turn the lights off. No, put it in a
Speaker 1: dark room. Turn the lights off.
Speaker 5: We've got Tory on the line. Tory, what did your
Speaker 5: toddler have a tantrum about?
Speaker 3: She was upset that the dog could not carry her
Speaker 3: up the stairs.
Speaker 2: Now dog, how big is the dog?
Speaker 3: He's a French bull dog, very little.
Speaker 1: Well, she wanted to like ride him up the stairs.
Speaker 3: No, she fully wanted him to use his paws and
Speaker 3: carry her up the stairs. Oh bless, she threw herself
Speaker 3: on the ground and she refused to come up.
Speaker 5: So understandable. Understandable, Tory. Thanks for the call, Jess. We've
Speaker 5: got Jess on the line. What did your told to
Speaker 5: have a tantrum about?
Speaker 6: She had a tantrum because we have two kitchen sinks
Speaker 6: and she only wanted one.
Speaker 2: Kids are so cooked?
Speaker 1: Did she know that people would die for two kitchen sinks?
Speaker 1: You're like, we're very lucky, Like that's last, that's expensive.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was like, it's not a fixable problem. They can't
Speaker 6: remove one.
Speaker 2: What was it about the two things that she was
Speaker 2: particularly upset about.
Speaker 6: I think she only had just realized we had two
Speaker 6: because there's always been a cover on one of them
Speaker 6: and I was cleaning it and so, yeah, not a
Speaker 6: good morning. Absolutely melt down over the realization that we
Speaker 6: had too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her whole reality just changed. She freaked her out.
Speaker 5: Thanks for the cor Jazz, Sasha, what did your toddler
Speaker 5: have a tantrum about?
Speaker 7: Okay, so was actually me that had the tantrum, But
Speaker 7: essentially what my sister stole my imaginary Doug, and I
Speaker 7: was in hysteric.
Speaker 1: Oh you meant as a kid you had a tan? Yes?
Speaker 2: No, But like, how did you know that she's stolen it?
Speaker 2: If it was an imaginary I don't know.
Speaker 7: I would have been like four. And I came out
Speaker 7: and my sister then followed me, and she was patting
Speaker 7: the air and said, nice jucky, nice ducky.
Speaker 4: Do you know what, though, is if it's your imaginations
Speaker 4: made believe and someone's gaslighting you into thinking that has
Speaker 4: been stolen, I can understand.
Speaker 1: Why you would have believed that.
Speaker 4: Like, while your imagination sort of switched into your sister's narrative, I.
Speaker 2: Like, you're trying to breize in this bridge.
Speaker 1: I am, I can understand this robotiz. Yeah, I actually
Speaker 1: feel for you.
Speaker 2: Hey, Sasha, how old are you now?
Speaker 7: I'm twenty five.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you've held onto this for all
Speaker 2: these years.
Speaker 5: I hope you got your imaginary duck back and your
Speaker 5: parents intervene.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: I really did think though his question, like how old
Speaker 4: are you when you stop having these tantrums? Because I thought,
Speaker 4: like five, Marley's age five ish six, I thought that
Speaker 4: was on the other end of tantrums like that.
Speaker 5: I think Tired plays a massive, massive like a part
Speaker 5: in this. Also, you know you're never too old to
Speaker 5: miss your imaginary duck.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: We get asked a lot on our podcast, Life un
Speaker 4: Cut podcast about wedding questions and Hen's parties questions.
Speaker 1: And there's a thread that's going off in the Mama
Speaker 1: mea like community.
Speaker 4: Facebook group that has sparked a really big debate surrounding
Speaker 4: Hen's parties. So I'm just going to read it for you.
Speaker 4: A pretty good friend of mine is having a Hen's party.
Speaker 4: It's a two hundred and fifty dollars per person lunch.
Speaker 4: It's going to be a struggle to afford that in
Speaker 4: our budget, especially when I have the wedding in a
Speaker 4: few weeks, because I have to factor in expensive gifts, accommodation,
Speaker 4: and baby. She's the type of person who is going
Speaker 4: to be upset and angry if I don't go, and
Speaker 4: it will likely damage our friendship. So she goes on
Speaker 4: to say, like, knowing I can't afford it, do I
Speaker 4: put myself and my family first and not go? Knowing
Speaker 4: that she's got all these other expenses coming up, or
Speaker 4: does she have to like make some really personal cuts
Speaker 4: and cuts in her lifestyle and her family and home
Speaker 4: life so that she can afford this really expensive lunch
Speaker 4: so that she doesn't quote unquote lose her friend.
Speaker 5: I think Ken's parties in general are getting too expensive,
Speaker 5: absolutely really, And I get it, like, if you want
Speaker 5: to do something nice for your pre wedding celebrations, often
Speaker 5: that comes with a price tag. I mean, everything's kind
Speaker 5: of expensive at the moment. But I don't think that
Speaker 5: you can be angry at someone if they have said
Speaker 5: that they're not able to afford it. Like I think
Speaker 5: if it was free and they turned around and said, oh,
Speaker 5: I can't come, then you can have a reason to
Speaker 5: be like, well, you're not prioritize so it's important.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they hate you, Yeah, But if you're expecting.
Speaker 5: Someone to pay a lot of money to come to
Speaker 5: the wedding, They've got to pay for babysitters, they've got
Speaker 5: to buy a present, it's you know, they've got to
Speaker 5: travel to the wedding. I don't I think that you
Speaker 5: can be personally offended if someone tells you that they
Speaker 5: can't afford to go to your hens party.
Speaker 4: Well, it makes you think like for you to make
Speaker 4: the statement I might lose her as a friend if
Speaker 4: I don't go, Like spoiler, that's not a friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If a friend is going to drop.
Speaker 4: You because you say you can't afford to go to
Speaker 4: her HENS party, know when you're going to her wedding,
Speaker 4: I don't think that's a very good friend. But get this,
Speaker 4: According to Wedded Wonderland, Ozzie's are spending on average six
Speaker 4: hundred and fourteen dollars just on the HENS.
Speaker 2: I that's crazy. I actually can't believe that. I feel
Speaker 2: like that's too high.
Speaker 5: And when I think about it, I'm like I would
Speaker 5: normally I guess the kind of going rate amongst my friends.
Speaker 5: In the past few HENS parties I've been to has
Speaker 5: been over two hundred dollars, But six hundred seems absolutely crazy,
Speaker 5: Like where are these people going. They're going away on holidays,
Speaker 5: They're going away on mini vacations. Like it's one thing
Speaker 5: to have a lunch for a Hen's party, it's another
Speaker 5: thing to have like a full weekend away or something,
Speaker 5: and expect everyone to pay that sort of money.
Speaker 4: Well, even for the two hundred and fifty dollars for
Speaker 4: this lunch, Like this question, it was just a lunch
Speaker 4: and like true drinks or something. It's not like they're
Speaker 4: going to a buffet. It's not like they're going on
Speaker 4: a boat or it's nothing.
Speaker 1: Like elaborate or luxurious. That's just like a standard eat lunch.
Speaker 1: And what if you don't drink, Actually, that's a whole
Speaker 1: other thing.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of people who don't drink these days,
Speaker 5: and then they get footed with the same bill that
Speaker 5: everyone else is, like out of coke zero. I don't
Speaker 5: know my thing is, and like, I mean, I know
Speaker 5: I've already said it. But whatever hen's party you want
Speaker 5: to have, it's absolutely fine. You can organize and do
Speaker 5: whatever it is that you want to do, and it
Speaker 5: can be whatever price you want it to be. But
Speaker 5: you cannot be angry at people who don't want to go.
Speaker 5: I think that at the end of the day, if
Speaker 5: people opt in to spend that money because they want
Speaker 5: to be there and because they have very happily voluntarily
Speaker 5: paid that money. But you don't want people going and
Speaker 5: putting themselves into a financial situation that is like too
Speaker 5: hard for them simply because they're scared of disappointing you.
Speaker 2: Like that's a terrible place to be as a friend.
Speaker 4: Totally and my so my wedding later in the year
Speaker 4: is international because my fiance is international Hyman's overseas, so
Speaker 4: it's just.
Speaker 2: It's going to cost a bomb.
Speaker 4: But I had no expectations on anyone coming, and like,
Speaker 4: that's on me and I put on the invitation. I
Speaker 4: totally understand if there are people in a situation that
Speaker 4: this is unfathomable for them. Unfortunately, as like an international couple,
Speaker 4: this is how it is. But I don't want anyone
Speaker 4: to feel bad or guilty or if this is not
Speaker 4: on your agenda for twenty twenty five. And like, I
Speaker 4: genuinely mean that I would not hold one thing against anyone.
Speaker 5: That can't come, Britt, How would you feel if I
Speaker 5: didn't come? Though, Mate, it's too expected.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be diplomatic, Like, I know how much
Speaker 2: you get paid, you're coming, We get paid the same amount.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I if you actually said.
Speaker 4: To me, I can't afford it, but oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: seeing what you spend your money on.
Speaker 1: You're coming, you're covering.
Speaker 2: You're there. But you know what even that got to
Speaker 2: take the kids got to pay for nannies, like.
Speaker 4: Tax deductible we'll do a podcast over there to a
Speaker 4: radio show.
Speaker 1: It's a tax deduct Yeah, I'll make my wedding tax
Speaker 1: to doc.
Speaker 5: I think we need to stop talking about how it's
Speaker 5: going to be your tax deduction.
Speaker 2: So I think that that ye not when joke. Yeah, taxing,
Speaker 2: let's get out of you.