WEBVTT - Fashion Week & Why Flex Only Went To Take Cute Pics 👗📸🤫 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:04.440 Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:05.920 and Frooms catch up podcast. 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:08.440 It is Flex and Frooms on Cata. Discovered something so 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:10.400 strange about myself. I don't think I sit on the 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:15.520 toilet seat properly, dear. I sit halfway off it when 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.360 my back should be touching the back of it. Right. Anyway, 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.720 I've been trialing that and it's been far more enjoyable. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.200 So check the way you sit in your toilet scene. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:24.680 You're still sitting on your corn stool. 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.800 Now I use that for my feet. Yeah, I still 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:28.960 use this, of course. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.280 Here's a podcast. This is Flex and Frooms on Catera. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.800 According to people of the Internet, Australian Fashion Week isn't giving. 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.800 More specifically after pay Australian Fashion Week. I don't be 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.960 confused with Mercedes Benz Australian Fashion Week. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:44.680 Listen to this. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.800 It's from a TikToker called Styling Emily Beanie. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.920 I love Australian style, but is anyone else looking at 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:55.920 the Australian Fashion Week stuff and thinking what's going on? 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:56.279 Like? 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.360 It doesn't feel like USh and week in any way. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.600 It looks like a load of girls and Princess Polly would. 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.319 You like to share your thoughts before we before I 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:05.559 get into my diatribe. 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:06.160 Yes, please. 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.200 I didn't go to fashion Week this week, which I 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.679 really regret because I got excited looking at all the fits, 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.640 and then I went to my room and tried on 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.320 this really good outfit that I could have worn. A beautiful, 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:20.320 flouncy y two K dress with a Burberry trench coat 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.760 vintage naturally, and some thigh high boots. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:24.080 Is it a new purchase. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.920 No, it's actually the Burbery coat I wore five years 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:29.840 ago to fashion Week, so I thought it's a nice 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:30.680 recycle moment. 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:31.959 Great for the produce use. 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:33.679 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:38.480 But I will say there were some real givers, just 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:39.760 to say some names. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.400 Yasmin Sue Teaser. Yeah, every day she creates. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.960 Multiple fashion outfit changes per day. 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.480 Flex mummy, of course. But I'll let you continue. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:49.440 So I'm in two minds about fashion Week. I have 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.880 been to and worked out a few fashion weeks, doing 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:53.800 vox pops and things like that, and I've said quite 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.840 early on it's not my interest, mainly because I can't 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:58.120 wear a lot of the clothes that have been on 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.400 the runway recently. Though, so given that it's been brought 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.360 up by after Pay. It's switched over to quite a 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.920 consumer angle. So a lot of the outfits that you 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.560 see on the runway you can shop straight away. They're 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:13.080 aligning themselves with Australian fashion retailers and not just you know, designers. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:17.440 Consumer angle number one. On the opposite end of the spectrum, 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.600 when has Australia ever been aligned with the rest of 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.200 the world on plenty of things. I think that Australians 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:29.280 have a natural disrespect for Australian made things, whether it's movies, music, 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.400 and you'd be like, no, not me, I love Okay, 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.400 I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about people who 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.880 won't watch a TV show because it's made in Australia, 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.839 but will watch it because it's made in America. Who 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.000 won't listen to an artist because they're from Australia, but 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.480 who will listen to them once they move to America. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.200 I will say with this feedback about it looks like 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.640 a bunch of fast fashion people and whatever, whatever, whatever, 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.760 what you're seeing from Australian Fashion Week is algorithmic bab 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:54.600 And granted, when I went I went to get my 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.519 piggy outside of Carriageworks and I went right home. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:57.600 Couldn't even go to a show. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.000 I didn't go, Oh hard, didn't go. Who dressed you 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:04.600 by bambat Melbourne based Australian fashion label, Yeah, yeah inclusive. 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:05.560 You looks fantastic. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:09.240 Thank you so much. What I will say is it's algorithmic, 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.200 so what you saw is a reflection of what you consume. 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.480 I have never seen a fashion week with more sustainable 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:21.800 and sustainably dressed people more like wowser outfits. I personally 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:23.640 didn't see a lot of fast fashion, but maybe that's 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:27.600 not what I'm following. Also, I think that everything is 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.720 a contradictory pendulum swing. How did there been a bunch 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.120 of people showing out and their cookiest, wackiest outfits. You 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.480 would have been like, this isn't what fashion is about. 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.240 Why can't people just go to these events and just 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.280 wear what they usually wear? La la la la. You're 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.000 putting on outfits you wouldn't even wear to go to 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.920 this place. It's not genuine. So sometimes you need to 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.360 take TikTok commentary with a grain of salt. I will say, 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.400 none of this feedback is really helpful, and it's okay 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:50.800 to hate on STFF. I hate on stuff all the time. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.920 So let's leave room for being a hater, but also 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.600 let's also leave room for all the new and upcoming 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.920 designers who showed really broke some standards, won some award 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.560 and you're lumping them in with this like rhetoric of 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.840 like it was just fast fashion girl, he's doing fast 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:08.040 fashion things. It's not helpful. 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.280 Eric Yvonne is that how I pronounce his name? 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:10.440 Things? 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:12.920 So wow, all I can say is got to E 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.680 R I K and then y v O N. I 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.919 watched the whole like runway cut that he put on Instagram, 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.560 and the whole time I was swinging saying I love 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:27.920 all of these outfits, and the drama of the show. 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:29.799 Was next level. So it is exciting. 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:38.359 I think fru meno boo, mummy, lex Mom. 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:41.239 You're listening to flex and frooms on Kita did I Flexie. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.760 I'm asking the big question, do you really like your 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.440 partner or do you just want what they've got? The 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.120 question was originally posed on Vice. 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:50.440 It got me. 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.480 Thinking, I mean, first and foremost, I didn't find it 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:57.000 our produce, Kayla founder, and that's why we have your testimony, 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.760 That's why we have such a burgeoning relationship. Michayla's only 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.120 been with us for about a month and we're just 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:02.719 having such. 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:03.080 A fun time. 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:03.960 We're locked in. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.800 And in the article it named a few reasons why 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.159 you might want to be with a partner. Let me 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:13.560 read them out. Personal gain, I mean, which are surface level. 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.960 We're both giving things. I want to get something out 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:16.240 of it. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.920 Gifts. Number two is loneliness. 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.440 Are you just using your partner because you're lonely? I mean, 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.320 that's what are we doing on earth? 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.800 And number three psychical? Is this cycle physical? Kayla? 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.640 Okay, no, we're not going to buy Michaela's typos when 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.160 she's fishy. This information kind of the goodness of her 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.400 heart physic. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.599 Oh okay, psychical? 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.240 Did you just swear, Mikayla. You go, you're going to 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.919 air and physical connections. So that's intimacy. Do with that 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:54.280 what you will. I believe that every relationship is something 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.920 that you get out of It's like that classic I 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.599 don't know if in high school you like discuss this, 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.240 but the idea that nothing is altruistic? Did you go 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.040 through that like little subject where it's like, what is altruism? 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:07.360 Is anything really altrub to me? 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:12.400 Yeah, I'm getting flashbacks because when I say all relationships 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.240 are transactional, now you want to look at me funny, noy, 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:16.680 you want look at me funny. I think if we 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:21.760 respect the transaction, we would appreciate when we're being given things, 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.360 when we're taking things, because that's what happens in most relationships. 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.040 You don't appreciate what someone's given you because you think 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.159 you're entitled to it by virtue of this connection. If 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.440 every time your partner or your best friend sent you 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.640 a meme or a calendar invite to go to coffee, 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:39.240 or they took the time out to tell you a 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.640 story that really interested them, if you really respected what 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:45.320 was happening there, you'd be like, damn, I'm so lucky. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.600 You could tell anyone this, but you've chosen me. Do 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.320 you like your partner or do you just want what 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.880 they've got? I would argue that both are necessary. Yeah, 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.040 for a relationship. I find that I'm often drawn to people, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.760 or I have been, who are either just like me 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:03.680 or are lacking so like a lot of my friends, introverted, 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:08.760 really empathetic people, acts of service, kings and queens, we 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.920 don't have overlapping skills and it's like, oh, it's great 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.400 because now we co create this relationship that actually takes 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.120 effort because we're not bringing the same thing into it 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.000 as opposed to some relationships where are like, oh, you're 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:24.280 just my doppelganger. I'm here because I'm obsessed with myself. 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.840 Siblings or dating. That's the original question. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.360 I think that I have dated people in the past 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.600 who I feel are more sophisticated than me. 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.880 Okay, call it out. So call it out. 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.080 What I got from their me sophistication, access to events 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:38.680 that I wouldn't have been able to go to at 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:39.800 our young age, Come on. 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.600 Guest list, so and let it be know. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.160 Let it be know that if you're a woman dating men, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:49.520 statistically coupling up is not going to be beneficial for 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.760 you as women of the relationship. So it's only fair 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.560 that you get what you actually need, whether it's proximity 0:07:55.600 --> 0:08:00.880 to attraction, proximity to social status, proximity is more money, resources, whatever, 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.480 make your relationships actually work for you. It's not charity work, no, Okay, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.120 what they say, marriage is the biggest business, something. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.600 Something nobody wants to have worked with them. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:20.239 Precisely, you're listening to flex and rooms on Kata. 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:25.080 Unfortunately, taylors With fans are having mental health issues over 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.800 the possibility of her dating Maddie Healy. Taylor Swift and 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.080 Matti Heely have been romantically linked in some capacity for 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:36.360 ten years. There's been conspiracies and rumors bubbling, but nothing 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.040 so concrete. Because she's been dating other people and he's 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.480 been dating other people. There wasn't really much to go 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.280 for much to say, but there's similarities in lyrics. If 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.040 they're speaking to each other through music. They've popped up 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.000 at each other's gigs, things like that, But you could 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.720 just say they're just friends. It is what it is now. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.199 The reason why this partnering is so tenuous is because 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:56.880 Taylors would has come under a lot of flak for 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:02.120 being apolitical in some ways. When she does choose to 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.000 make a stance, any stance on social issues, and the 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.439 timing in which she does so has been a bit 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.840 frustrating for a few of her fans because they don't 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.280 really know where she stands or what she believes in, 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.880 and given that she's from, like I don't know, the Midwest, whatever, 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.240 people are concerned to be a trumpy is it neither 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.400 he nor there. I don't know, but she has been 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.800 known to be ambiguous on social issues. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:22.320 Now. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.360 Maddie Healey, on the other hand, has had his fair 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:29.679 share of controversies in the media, especially social media. They 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:33.640 date back to ten years ago, so he's faced accusations 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:39.240 of Islamophobia, sexism, backlash around the Black Lives Matter movement 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.440 that caused him to deactivate his socials for a bit. 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:47.680 He speculated eye spices ethnicity. She's Dominican in Nigerian and 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.319 said that he thought she was actually Chinese or Hawaiian 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.200 instead of mimicking accents. It's just one thing after the other. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.439 The issue is people say that for Taylor to be 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.600 dating Maddie Heally, she is taking a stance aligning herself 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:04.360 so closely with this problematic, allegedly in quotations guy. So 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.080 soon after this breakup happened like two months ago or whatever. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.280 Everyone's like, was that overlap? Did you cheat? And also, 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.840 of all the time for you to be so public 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:13.840 in a relationship, this is the guy you pick it 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.679 to do it with this one here. Now you're making 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.800 very clear statements and it's causing people to look back 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:22.880 on times where they gave her the benefit of the doubt, 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.679 like with her friend groups, and so I don't know 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.280 if it's gonna be a good bad thing for her career, 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.320 because we did notice people were turning on her when 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.920 it came to the pricing of her tour recently. They 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.880 were like, Mmm, she's price gouging this. Sheit is about 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.120 to be a billionaire and we don't like billionaires. Does 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.760 that mean we don't like her? Not sure. Will Taylor 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.400 come out and say I'm dating him, I'm not dating him. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:44.040 I don't know. 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.720 But realistically, in the court of public opinion, the damage 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:47.200 is done. 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.439 Okay, I will say if Taylor Swift did at least 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:55.880 one thing that he did over so, I understand why 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.920 someone like that is a political because no matter what 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.240 she does, she's a political she is political. We saw 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.040 what happens to the Dixie Chicks. They were like Midwest. 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.920 They spoke up. I'm not going to get this right, 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.760 but they spoke about like the Iraq War. I remember 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.959 I was a kid. I remember them getting like. 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.160 Torn to shred torn to shreds literally. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.959 Had to change their name to the Chicks or something, right, 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.160 So I just feel like there's a double standard when 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.000 it comes to people making mistakes. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.719 Women aren't allowed to make mistakes. Men are like no one. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.800 I didn't even know about Maddie Healey doing all that stuff, 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.400 whereas I'm sure that I would know if. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:31.800 Tam Maddy he was a chick. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:33.800 And also. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.280 I also want to say, I also want to say 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.920 if she was outspoken about the social issues that Maddie 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.840 Heally isn't taking seriously, she'd be ripped even more. 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:46.400 Maybe she doesn't care. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:48.520 I wouldn't care if. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:53.040 I was with that much money the trajectory school. She 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.360 has warned you in the way Taylor didn't warn you. 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.480 I don't know if you've noticed this flex, but why 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:06.240 is every single person myself included, suddenly started talking in 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.920 a British accents a few years ago, I did start 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.240 to indulge in a British Scottish. 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.600 Mut like accent. Okay, a mut like accent. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:20.600 It was part Shrek confused other part Yorkshire Cockney type 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.880 of vibe. As we know, I have done an ancestry 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.600 DNA tests and I have the receipts to say I 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:27.439 am indeed of that ilk. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:31.400 Mutt like is a crazy phrase. I'm still I'm still 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.079 not processing, and. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.880 It turns out this is a real phenomenon. The Guardian's 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.280 written an article which is about why Americans love fake 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.840 British accents, and it says that they use it to 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.960 deflect an awkward moment or to lighten the mood. Is 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.600 they put on a Cockney accent, which I read here 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:54.119 is a bad imitation of Cockley slang or Yorkshire dialect, 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.760 obviously fake theatrical voices for low. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.600 Grade daily dramas. 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.280 What I have noticed about you, Flex is not once 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.320 have I seen a new default to the British accent. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:05.959 You've ever tried it? 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:07.280 I maybe? 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.920 Oh you say you want to listen to Flex and Food? 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.280 Yeah, mummy, mummy, I love it. 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.960 I see the appeal with the British accent. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:20.800 You co sign. Let's mimic people's accents for a punchline. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.720 Listen. I mean, I've done it once and I do 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:24.080 it again. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:25.920 I think like I used to do this thing when 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.080 I was younger, would go outs clubs, start talking to 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:29.959 an older gentleman and we'd be talking. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.600 In British accents. This is a little game. 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:37.200 Hello, oh yeah, I am here from Britain and they'd say, so, 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.840 where what parts we're from lead, said Red, I'm from Oxford, 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:47.079 always Oxford. Sure she's wearing like extensions and back in 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:47.720 bridge dress. 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.120 Babes, you're not from Oxford. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:54.000 Me serious, shugar heart chee dress actually part of my friends. 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.480 So I believe that talking. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.680 In a British accent is a fantastic way to lighten 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.520 the movie hair hair, mylag mack. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:11.360 That was the real the real one. You're listening to 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.720 flex and rooms last week, everybody. 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.120 I went on a bit of a diatribe, as you 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:21.040 would say, FLIXI and ripped voice notes to pieces. I said, 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.120 I'm sick of people sending me voice voice notes, and 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:25.760 I just want to specify it. I didn't mean my 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.240 friends overseas on WhatsApp giving me all that wasn't clear. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:30.240 That wasn't clear. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:34.160 No, it wasn't my meant you annoying little freaks that 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.440 are sending me voice You mean your fans, my fans 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.200 and friends. No, my friends who are like we're going 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.040 to meet at the cinema right later that day. They 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.800 send me a thirty five second voice memo saying, hey, 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.240 oh wait, someone's in my ars. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:49.800 And traffic hold on. 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.520 Oh yeah, anyway, I'm going to be ten minutes late, 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:53.480 just send me. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.120 So do you think that sending voice notes is kind 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.240 of the social equivalent of this could have been an email, 0:14:59.240 --> 0:14:59.880 but it's a meeting. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.760 Preciustly got it all right, a listener submission as it 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.680 could saying the voicemail was cool, let's listen to it. 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:11.640 It's only appropriate that I express my thoughts through a 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.720 voice note. So I really like using voice notes to 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.720 communicate with my friends because we are all on different schedules, 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.520 and most of me and my friends have phone anxiety, 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:28.200 like sending a text call me to half of my 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:32.440 friends would send them into an existential crisis. And most 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.560 of the time I just want to talk about like 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:38.840 a new snack or something, So sending a voice note 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.840 they can open it on their time. And also not 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.880 to be morbid, but my mom died when I was 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.320 twenty five, and I would have loved to have more 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:52.800 voice notes of her voice that are immortalized other than 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.680 phone conversation. So I think it's a good thing. But 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.000 I also talked about succession for four hours over voice 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:00.400 That's what. 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.000 My frien a couple weeks ago, so to eat the 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.560 do you think perhaps it's voice notes should be used 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:10.160 for gossip or sharing the night's events. For example, if 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.360 I went out through me, would you rather than me say, 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:17.040 in twenty five different text messages, oh my goodness, I 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.200 saw the cutest and did and whatever, or oh my god, 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.880 I got near. You know, sometimes you need you know, 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:28.080 the voice to add into it. I will say, though 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.840 the for our voice notes, some things might just need 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.960 to be a phone call. But it's also rude to 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:35.560 force someone into a phone call with you. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.600 The phone anxiety is very, very real. I think we 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.240 need to also impose time limits on phone calls. Unless 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.040 you're both on the same wave length, you're too scared 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:48.240 to go to sleep. However, I will say, Jillian, I 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.920 really like your point about having more voice memos from 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.440 your mum. I decided a few days ago, randomly, I 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.400 need to take more photos with my mum, which is 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.240 a random thing, but I just thought, we need to 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.640 take we need to not take selfies. We need someone 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.399 to take some photos of us. Oh you know, Okay, 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.720 got this photo of us when I finish graduating Union 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.320 Rea at a restaurant to celebrate, and we're both smiling, 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.119 and when I look at it, I just feel so happy. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.080 So more photos are more voice memos. 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:20.160 This reminds me were you not the person? And I'm 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:21.520 pointing at you with a pen right now. I don't 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.440 mean to sound cuteatory, but we were talking about proposals 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.760 and you were saying that you don't want a photographer 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:27.400 a proposal. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.720 Yeah, no way, okay, I said. 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:31.760 Do you want? You want the moment captured? No selfies, 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:34.520 but also no photographers. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:39.119 I'm gagged. 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