Speaker 1: God One a four point three Christian O'Connor show every
Speaker 1: Monday on the show, and then we ask you to
Speaker 1: tell us what happened to you over the weekend in
Speaker 1: six words.
Speaker 2: We could do something different.
Speaker 1: This is something where even if you don't get involved
Speaker 1: with this today, I really urge you do this over
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks with your family, friends and
Speaker 1: your mates. I'm in our WhatsApp group with a couple
Speaker 1: of buddies and I put it up there yesterday and
Speaker 1: people started to go back and forth with it. And
Speaker 1: even though I know those friends very very well, I
Speaker 1: didn't realize some of the stuff I've obviously happened this year.
Speaker 1: And oh I'm seeing some of them tonight. I've got
Speaker 1: other areas to talk to them about. All it is
Speaker 1: is your year, whatever this year is for you. How
Speaker 1: would you actually tell somebody about that in six words?
Speaker 1: And the thing to do with this rather than pick
Speaker 1: six random words like if you've got a new cat
Speaker 1: this year, as an cat moved and all that, actually
Speaker 1: try and put it all together as a sentence. It
Speaker 1: becomes like a mini story in a way, which is
Speaker 1: what our lives are, aren't they full of the various
Speaker 1: chapters what goes on in her life, and especially in
Speaker 1: just a year, so as it does come to a
Speaker 1: close over the next couple of weeks, this six word year,
Speaker 1: it's a great thing to do. Patsy, what's it for you?
Speaker 1: Did you have a couple of different things that you
Speaker 1: went through?
Speaker 3: No, it was really obvious. For me, it was top
Speaker 3: of mind.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I thought about family life and all different aspects of
Speaker 3: my life through twenty twenty three. But really for me,
Speaker 3: the epitome is my acro win at the Radio Awards
Speaker 3: in October, and I think the words for me are
Speaker 3: I now appreciate my own worth And this, to be honest,
Speaker 3: it seems really narcissistic, but it's my truth, and that
Speaker 3: is you know, I've been doing radio, as we know,
Speaker 3: for decades, and you know, people tell you you're good at
Speaker 3: what you do, but I have probably the worst case
Speaker 3: of imposter syndrome a lot of performers do, where you
Speaker 3: really don't think you're that good. You're never good enough
Speaker 3: in your own mind. You're a perfectionist and you're always
Speaker 3: trying to do better and really hard on yourself. And
Speaker 3: I'm very guilty of that, and so winning that it's
Speaker 3: given me this renew good sense of worth and this
Speaker 3: I really found. I really feel like I have found
Speaker 3: myself these last few months that I feel so much
Speaker 3: more comfortable in my skin and I continue to grow.
Speaker 3: I've still got a lot to learn in what I do,
Speaker 3: but I do I have this. It's not a complacency,
Speaker 3: but just you know what, I'm okay and I'm enough.
Speaker 3: And I think there's a certain amount as a woman
Speaker 3: when you turn fifty. I felt that as well, where
Speaker 3: you don't worry about so much what other people think.
Speaker 3: But since this acro win, it's really made me professionally
Speaker 3: more comfortable with what I'm doing and I feel like
Speaker 3: I found myself and I feel that that will be
Speaker 3: such a gift for Audrey to pass on to my
Speaker 3: daughter as well, to teach her not to take no
Speaker 3: for an answer, because if I took no for the
Speaker 3: amount of people that said, oh, you'd never do that,
Speaker 3: or you know, you know my careers teacher in year
Speaker 3: ten set when I said I wanted to get into radio,
Speaker 3: he said, oh, yeah, you won't do that. Not many
Speaker 3: people do that. It's that awful, and that just makes
Speaker 3: me more determined when people say you know, that's like, well,
Speaker 3: actually no, I'll show you why not me? So, yeah,
Speaker 3: I really feel like I've found my This is.
Speaker 1: A start lovely to hear, Patsy. And do you know
Speaker 1: when I first started here, I remember you saying to
Speaker 1: me that you were actually on your way of just
Speaker 1: giving up radio.
Speaker 2: You just had enough of ignored.
Speaker 1: For other jobs, and you would have been a huge loss.
Speaker 1: It's been a great joy through doing the show for
Speaker 1: me over the last couple of years to see your
Speaker 1: rise and rise and rise actually in your fullness, Patsy.
Speaker 1: You are so gifted, You're so good. It's such a
Speaker 1: big part of this show. Whatever the show is, it's
Speaker 1: a huge parts of Patsy. And I'm really excited about
Speaker 1: what all this is going to mean next year when
Speaker 1: you launch your new podcast as well. I think that's
Speaker 1: going to be a game change and actually a gift
Speaker 1: for so many women as well.
Speaker 2: Patsy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I procrastinated for so long, and Chris was on
Speaker 3: my back. My husband's like, you've got to do a podcast.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to just do a podcast because I
Speaker 3: should do it, because I'm in radio and everyone was
Speaker 3: doing it. I didn't want to do it just because
Speaker 3: I wanted it to mean something and I wanted it
Speaker 3: to be here comes the perfectionist to me again. But
Speaker 3: I wanted it to be something I was really proud
Speaker 3: of and not just like cookie Cutter. Just get it
Speaker 3: out there. And Christian, you have also encouraged me to
Speaker 3: the nth degree to do it, and so I'm finally
Speaker 3: doing it, and I'm really really excited about it. It's
Speaker 3: going to be about menopause, and why I'm doing it
Speaker 3: is because I want to try, in my little bit,
Speaker 3: just to change the narrative around it. I want to
Speaker 3: remove or help remove the stigma because we don't talk
Speaker 3: about it enough and I want to start talking about it.
Speaker 3: So it's raw, it's honest, it's open. If you're listening
Speaker 3: and you're going through it or your partner's going through it,
Speaker 3: message me if you've got any ideas of what topics
Speaker 3: you might like to touch on, or if you want
Speaker 3: to share your experiences, please hit me up on Instagram
Speaker 3: because it's all part of a community that I'm trying
Speaker 3: to build to support all of us as we try
Speaker 3: and navigate the you roade of menopause. So I'm really.
Speaker 1: Exc My wife Sarah honestly will be your first listener.
Speaker 1: And she was saying the other day when I was
Speaker 1: saying that you started to make some episodes, that it
Speaker 1: is all her and her friends talk about because actually
Speaker 1: no one talks about it.
Speaker 3: That's it. Why don't we talk?
Speaker 2: And if it was us guys that went through it,
Speaker 2: you'd hear a lot about it.
Speaker 3: But you do go through it.
Speaker 2: If I was going through you know, my six world
Speaker 2: would just be menopause.
Speaker 4: And we're doing menopause.
Speaker 3: But you are going through it because you know, you're
Speaker 3: supporting people, are supporting partners as well. It affects everyone,
Speaker 3: millions of women around the world, millions. So let's start
Speaker 3: the conversation. Let's not make it a dirty word. Let's
Speaker 3: let's share and help and support.
Speaker 1: So I think it's much needed, Patsy, and there's no
Speaker 1: one better to do it than you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so stay tuned. I'm very excited. I've got about
Speaker 3: five episodes in the bag, so hopefully about March we'll
Speaker 3: get that launch and I'll be able to tell you more.
Speaker 1: Song you can hear what this is opened up and Patsy,
Speaker 1: from just six words, right, it does it. It really
Speaker 1: gets you thinking about what's happened this year and what
Speaker 1: did it really mean to as you leave the years,
Speaker 1: Jackie boy, what's it for you this year? Big year
Speaker 1: for you in your family?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've written priorities, change, accepting, fatherhood, deeper enjoyment.
Speaker 2: So what does that mean for you? Then?
Speaker 4: It means that this year for me being a dad
Speaker 4: has really clicked. And that's something I'm really proud of
Speaker 4: because last year I found it a real challenge when
Speaker 4: Gordy came into our life, I just wasn't ready for
Speaker 4: some aspects of it. I was so used to Bianca
Speaker 4: and I being the only priority. I was used to
Speaker 4: the freedom, the autonomy, being able to do what you want,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, somebody comes along and
Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting to feel this resistance to he needs
Speaker 4: our attention, he needs to be the number one priority.
Speaker 4: And obviously, consciously I could go, I know he needs
Speaker 4: that and I need to give it to him. But
Speaker 4: it felt like something I was forcing, I was pushing against.
Speaker 4: Whereas I compare this year to last year, and now
Speaker 4: that feeling is effortless for me, it just is him
Speaker 4: being the number one priority doesn't feel like something I
Speaker 4: have to push against a force. It just is and
Speaker 4: I'm so thankful for that. And I thought it might
Speaker 4: come straight away. I thought the day he was born
Speaker 4: that would come naturally. It didn't come naturally for me
Speaker 4: straight away, but I'm so glad that it's here now.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I just now, I don't feel like I'm
Speaker 4: making a sacrifice. There's nothing I feel like I'm missing on.
Speaker 4: There's no loss. Just the joy and the love that
Speaker 4: he brings to us is all that I need. And honestly,
Speaker 4: the Wiggles tomorrow is a great example of that. If
Speaker 4: you told me, honestly two years ago that I would
Speaker 4: sit through a concert of the Wiggles just so my
Speaker 4: son could enjoy it, I would think, God, what a
Speaker 4: burden and a sacrifice. Sure, I'll do it for him,
Speaker 4: but wow, what a pain. Now, I couldn't be more
Speaker 4: excited to go to that concept. And even if I
Speaker 4: don't watch a minute on stage, and I just spent
Speaker 4: the whole time looking at him and seeing his reaction,
Speaker 4: that for me, I just yeah, I just I'm amazed
Speaker 4: at where I was to compare to this year.
Speaker 1: What had a beautiful journey You've gone. No one ever
Speaker 1: can describe what your personal experience is going to be
Speaker 1: like when you become a father or a parent, and
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing of limitless, deep deep love. And
Speaker 1: you're constantly surprised at the joy you can find in
Speaker 1: these tiny little moments that are They're like explosive. It's
Speaker 1: like a super nova. You go. I didn't realize just
Speaker 1: holding your hand, it could be the deepest thing of
Speaker 1: love I've ever received in my life.
Speaker 2: It's incredible. What do you want?
Speaker 1: Last year, I actually just felt nothing, but I felt
Speaker 1: so much sorry for you last year, Jack, because actually
Speaker 1: I knew that better times would come. They were because
Speaker 1: it is such a It's a gift being a parent.
Speaker 1: It's the greatest journey in my life as much as
Speaker 1: I've loved. Yesterday was twenty five years in radio, which
Speaker 1: has been an amazing journey in study is to end
Speaker 1: up you know where it is now here in Australia
Speaker 1: with you guys. But that's nothing compared to actually what
Speaker 1: it's really been about, which is that as a parent
Speaker 1: and what it studies unfolding for you Patty as well.
Speaker 1: And it was so lovely yesterday Jack and I was
Speaker 1: in that I got a lift with Jack to go
Speaker 1: and do a Holy Moly golf.
Speaker 2: And in the car, I cannot tell you how happy
Speaker 2: it was. You were just.
Speaker 1: Saying, I'm really looking forward to seeing the Wiggles in
Speaker 1: two days time, and you really meant it. And a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, Gordon came in right and if me,
Speaker 1: Kaylyn Andria went for a drink after Hodly Modi essay,
Speaker 1: and we're all actually saying how lovely it was to
Speaker 1: see your love and actually keme and said I've never
Speaker 1: seen him like that.
Speaker 2: And at one.
Speaker 1: Point we were all talking to your wife and now
Speaker 1: you'd gone how often you just drift off and you
Speaker 1: go and take yourself off to do something right?
Speaker 2: You are actually I came to find you check you right.
Speaker 1: You were playing hide and seek around the corner with
Speaker 1: Gordon and it was just like, oh, I duck back
Speaker 1: out the way. I didn't want to interrupt to talk
Speaker 1: to you. It was I was like, God, if I
Speaker 1: could take a polaroid for that and showing you a
Speaker 1: year ago what you could actually do. But you're a
Speaker 1: credit to Gordon. One day you're going to tell him
Speaker 1: about the first eighteen months and why you felt like
Speaker 1: that job what do you think's changed it was?
Speaker 4: It's a slow thing. It's not like one day I
Speaker 4: wake up and I'm like, oh god, this is easy
Speaker 4: for being there.
Speaker 1: So there be people listening right now and they might
Speaker 1: feel where you are, Jack, you've got something that you've
Speaker 1: learned for this because some things have changed.
Speaker 2: What do you actually think it is?
Speaker 4: I wish I could say, you know, there's no recipe
Speaker 4: or magic bullet for it, but I guess over time,
Speaker 4: just accepting the new reality.
Speaker 2: Thing in life is actually an acceptance resistance.
Speaker 4: You know what, like realizing your part in it. Very
Speaker 4: at the start, I was like, why is this little
Speaker 4: baby miserable?
Speaker 2: Why is he doing it?
Speaker 4: He's not doing anything, He's so innocent. So finding out
Speaker 4: doing the work to find out like, well, what parts
Speaker 4: of it is me? What am I holding on to?
Speaker 4: What issues do I have to solve in my life
Speaker 4: to accept what's going on here? So that's been a long,
Speaker 4: honestly a long journey, but acceptance that I just.
Speaker 2: Want to say, well done.
Speaker 1: You want to see the work that Jack's done in
Speaker 1: in therapy, which isn't easy. Jack, and we also use
Speaker 1: sort of notes like you don't want to go and
Speaker 1: do that honestly right, you don't want to go and
Speaker 1: do some of that deep excavation sometimes into yourself.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go back in why is it
Speaker 2: still childhood? While he's talking about when I was ten?
Speaker 2: What's that got to do with.
Speaker 1: Now I'm fifty? But the work you've done for that
Speaker 1: and also fixing a sleep change your life. If you'd
Speaker 1: have done that last year, you didn't have last year.
Speaker 1: But you don't know what you know.
Speaker 4: I want to thank you guys as well. This whole
Speaker 4: team gave me so much love over the last twelve
Speaker 4: and eighteen months. And Christian you especially like show me
Speaker 4: that it's all right to be vulnerable and to talk
Speaker 4: about that those sort of things.
Speaker 1: It's actually only strengthened our relations, brought us coach and
Speaker 1: I know that laugh for listeners actually they feel they
Speaker 1: know the real youth. There was nothing wrong with you.
Speaker 1: You were in a certain night, Gordy's in a sittany
Speaker 1: born you weren't. But what a journey you've been on.
Speaker 1: As much as it was breaking you last year, what
Speaker 1: has actually done is broken you wide open to more
Speaker 1: joy and more love. Yes, the Wiggles tomorrow, I wish
Speaker 1: I was there with you, okay, because to see you
Speaker 1: and Gordy's face tomorrow will be an awesome Get me
Speaker 1: and pots both of your faces tomorrow.
Speaker 4: I'll watch Gordy's face, you watch my Okay.
Speaker 1: All right, we're talking about back with Patsy's news, so
Speaker 1: keep this coming. Then, what is this year for you?
Speaker 1: As you could see even just want the Jack's Sharon
Speaker 1: and Patsy's Those six words do so much. Like Kate Dix,
Speaker 1: who's just texted me right now, I'm blessed my husband
Speaker 1: is alive. Right, we don't know the full story, but wow, Kate,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that your husband is alive too. One an
Speaker 1: amazing thing for you to say about whatever that must
Speaker 1: have been like to go through all of that.
Speaker 2: For you this year.
Speaker 1: So thank you very much, all these sharings you're doing
Speaker 1: at the moment. When you start doing this, right, here's
Speaker 1: what happens. First of all, you just start with like
Speaker 1: what i'd call the flim flam and the froth of life.
Speaker 1: I'm ashamed to say that I actually started with John
Speaker 1: Wick four.
Speaker 4: I started with Golf.
Speaker 2: Because we like those movies. The image you're a grown up, for.
Speaker 1: God, damn, it, there's been a lot more going on
Speaker 1: that it's almost a thing where are you going to
Speaker 1: have a real conversation with yourself? And most of the
Speaker 1: times we're actually we're not very good friends to our house,
Speaker 1: whether we're crawled to our house, that internal critic that
Speaker 1: in a dialogue, what are you doing that for?
Speaker 2: You dummy?
Speaker 1: You'd never speak to another per in your life the
Speaker 1: way that actually talked itself day.
Speaker 2: And day out.
Speaker 1: It's shocking, actually what you would say to yourself in
Speaker 1: the day. You never have a partner, you'd be the
Speaker 1: loneliest person in the world if you spoke to another
Speaker 1: person the way that you think it's okay to talk
Speaker 1: to Well, so anyway, the first thing I got to
Speaker 1: because it's a bit about massive, massive year for us
Speaker 1: and for me, first thing I got was but the
Speaker 1: first three words were daughter left home because Ruby left
Speaker 1: homeless year. And then for about half an hour afterwards,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what the next words are,
Speaker 1: and I thought, even that's revealing because I don't actually
Speaker 1: know what the next bit is.
Speaker 2: I'm still figuring out. You know.
Speaker 1: The reason why I'm doing a woodwork course in January
Speaker 1: is I don't know what to looking for answers there
Speaker 1: maybe under lathe or something about what I should do
Speaker 1: with the next.
Speaker 2: Bit of my life.
Speaker 1: So it started with daughter left home, and I couldn't
Speaker 1: find the next three words, which does actually say I
Speaker 1: am still trying to figure out what is coming next
Speaker 1: to me now as daughter to number two loves to
Speaker 1: be leaving the year's time. But actually what it was
Speaker 1: for me, if I could sum it all up in
Speaker 1: just six words, it'll be this is what it is
Speaker 1: to be I think a human being. It is an
Speaker 1: endless work in progress. You know the age of your
Speaker 1: actors here in your sharing Jackie boy, here, you're still
Speaker 1: just figuring out out, aren't we. I think on my deathbed,
Speaker 1: I think as I as I draw my last few bits,
Speaker 1: I think, actually I'll be thinking.
Speaker 2: I think I'm just trying to get the hang of it.
Speaker 1: I thought when I was a kid, if I reached
Speaker 1: a grand old age of fifty, I'd be a black
Speaker 1: belt of life, like some gonna zen master. Not so
Speaker 1: actually still a hot mess at fifty. So for me
Speaker 1: it would be my six words this year there would
Speaker 1: be turn fifty, still figuring life out, and that's what
Speaker 1: it should be. We're still figuring out. And if we
Speaker 1: can if we can figure forgive ourselves all the mistakes
Speaker 1: and bits of resistance where we're not quite being what
Speaker 1: we think we should be in a day to day
Speaker 1: moment of that, we're all just a life in progress.
Speaker 1: And if we see dance out for our life like that,
Speaker 1: like an unfolding. And actually, the great thing about doing
Speaker 1: the six word thing is like so much of our
Speaker 1: lives now and my Instagram feed, it's all this stuff
Speaker 1: about meaning and purpose.
Speaker 2: What am I here to do? What is my meaning?
Speaker 1: And what is my purpose? Actually, your life is constantly
Speaker 1: showing you where meaning is, where your purpose is. You
Speaker 1: just got to sit down and look back at it.
Speaker 1: It's all black four ye