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Speaker 1: God One a four point three Christian O'Connor show every

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Speaker 1: Monday on the show, and then we ask you to

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Speaker 1: tell us what happened to you over the weekend in

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Speaker 1: six words.

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Speaker 2: We could do something different.

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Speaker 1: This is something where even if you don't get involved

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Speaker 1: with this today, I really urge you do this over

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks with your family, friends and

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Speaker 1: your mates. I'm in our WhatsApp group with a couple

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Speaker 1: of buddies and I put it up there yesterday and

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Speaker 1: people started to go back and forth with it. And

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Speaker 1: even though I know those friends very very well, I

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Speaker 1: didn't realize some of the stuff I've obviously happened this year.

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Speaker 1: And oh I'm seeing some of them tonight. I've got

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Speaker 1: other areas to talk to them about. All it is

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Speaker 1: is your year, whatever this year is for you. How

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Speaker 1: would you actually tell somebody about that in six words?

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Speaker 1: And the thing to do with this rather than pick

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Speaker 1: six random words like if you've got a new cat

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Speaker 1: this year, as an cat moved and all that, actually

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Speaker 1: try and put it all together as a sentence. It

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Speaker 1: becomes like a mini story in a way, which is

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Speaker 1: what our lives are, aren't they full of the various

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Speaker 1: chapters what goes on in her life, and especially in

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Speaker 1: just a year, so as it does come to a

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Speaker 1: close over the next couple of weeks, this six word year,

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Speaker 1: it's a great thing to do. Patsy, what's it for you?

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Speaker 1: Did you have a couple of different things that you

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Speaker 3: No, it was really obvious. For me, it was top

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Speaker 3: I thought about family life and all different aspects of

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Speaker 3: my life through twenty twenty three. But really for me,

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Speaker 3: the epitome is my acro win at the Radio Awards

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Speaker 3: in October, and I think the words for me are

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Speaker 3: I now appreciate my own worth And this, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: it seems really narcissistic, but it's my truth, and that

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Speaker 3: is you know, I've been doing radio, as we know,

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Speaker 3: for decades, and you know, people tell you you're good at

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Speaker 3: what you do, but I have probably the worst case

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Speaker 3: of imposter syndrome a lot of performers do, where you

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Speaker 3: really don't think you're that good. You're never good enough

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Speaker 3: in your own mind. You're a perfectionist and you're always

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Speaker 3: trying to do better and really hard on yourself. And

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Speaker 3: I'm very guilty of that, and so winning that it's

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Speaker 3: given me this renew good sense of worth and this

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Speaker 3: I really found. I really feel like I have found

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Speaker 3: myself these last few months that I feel so much

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Speaker 3: more comfortable in my skin and I continue to grow.

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Speaker 3: I've still got a lot to learn in what I do,

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Speaker 3: but I do I have this. It's not a complacency,

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Speaker 3: but just you know what, I'm okay and I'm enough.

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Speaker 3: And I think there's a certain amount as a woman

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Speaker 3: when you turn fifty. I felt that as well, where

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Speaker 3: But since this acro win, it's really made me professionally

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Speaker 3: more comfortable with what I'm doing and I feel like

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Speaker 3: I found myself and I feel that that will be

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Speaker 3: such a gift for Audrey to pass on to my

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Speaker 3: daughter as well, to teach her not to take no

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Speaker 3: amount of people that said, oh, you'd never do that,

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Speaker 3: or you know, you know my careers teacher in year

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Speaker 3: he said, oh, yeah, you won't do that. Not many

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Speaker 3: people do that. It's that awful, and that just makes

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Speaker 3: me more determined when people say you know, that's like, well,

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Speaker 3: actually no, I'll show you why not me? So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I really feel like I've found my This is.

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Speaker 1: A start lovely to hear, Patsy. And do you know

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Speaker 1: when I first started here, I remember you saying to

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Speaker 1: me that you were actually on your way of just

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Speaker 2: You just had enough of ignored.

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Speaker 1: For other jobs, and you would have been a huge loss.

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Speaker 1: It's been a great joy through doing the show for

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Speaker 1: me over the last couple of years to see your

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Speaker 1: rise and rise and rise actually in your fullness, Patsy.

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Speaker 1: You are so gifted, You're so good. It's such a

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Speaker 1: big part of this show. Whatever the show is, it's

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Speaker 1: a huge parts of Patsy. And I'm really excited about

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Speaker 1: what all this is going to mean next year when

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Speaker 1: you launch your new podcast as well. I think that's

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Speaker 1: going to be a game change and actually a gift

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Speaker 2: Patsy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I procrastinated for so long, and Chris was on

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to just do a podcast because I

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Speaker 3: doing it. I didn't want to do it just because

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Speaker 3: I wanted it to mean something and I wanted it

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Speaker 3: to be here comes the perfectionist to me again. But

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Speaker 3: I wanted it to be something I was really proud

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Speaker 3: of and not just like cookie Cutter. Just get it

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Speaker 3: out there. And Christian, you have also encouraged me to

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Speaker 3: doing it, and I'm really really excited about it. It's

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Speaker 3: going to be about menopause, and why I'm doing it

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Speaker 3: just to change the narrative around it. I want to

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Speaker 3: remove or help remove the stigma because we don't talk

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Speaker 3: about it enough and I want to start talking about it.

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Speaker 3: So it's raw, it's honest, it's open. If you're listening

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Speaker 3: and you're going through it or your partner's going through it,

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Speaker 3: message me if you've got any ideas of what topics

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Speaker 3: you might like to touch on, or if you want

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Speaker 3: to share your experiences, please hit me up on Instagram

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Speaker 3: because it's all part of a community that I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to build to support all of us as we try

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Speaker 3: and navigate the you roade of menopause. So I'm really.

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Speaker 1: Exc My wife Sarah honestly will be your first listener.

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Speaker 1: And she was saying the other day when I was

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Speaker 3: That's it. Why don't we talk?

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Speaker 2: And if it was us guys that went through it,

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Speaker 3: But you do go through it.

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Speaker 2: If I was going through you know, my six world

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Speaker 4: And we're doing menopause.

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Speaker 3: But you are going through it because you know, you're

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Speaker 3: supporting people, are supporting partners as well. It affects everyone,

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Speaker 3: millions of women around the world, millions. So let's start

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Speaker 1: So I think it's much needed, Patsy, and there's no

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so stay tuned. I'm very excited. I've got about

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Speaker 1: Song you can hear what this is opened up and Patsy,

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Speaker 1: from just six words, right, it does it. It really

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Speaker 1: gets you thinking about what's happened this year and what

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Speaker 1: Jackie boy, what's it for you this year? Big year

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Speaker 2: So what does that mean for you? Then?

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Speaker 4: It means that this year for me being a dad

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Speaker 4: because last year I found it a real challenge when

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Speaker 4: some aspects of it. I was so used to Bianca

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Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting to feel this resistance to he needs

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Speaker 4: And obviously, consciously I could go, I know he needs

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Speaker 4: Whereas I compare this year to last year, and now

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Speaker 4: that feeling is effortless for me, it just is him

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Speaker 4: being the number one priority doesn't feel like something I

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Speaker 4: I'm so thankful for that. And I thought it might

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I just now, I don't feel like I'm

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Speaker 4: There's no loss. Just the joy and the love that

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Speaker 4: burden and a sacrifice. Sure, I'll do it for him,

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Speaker 4: but wow, what a pain. Now, I couldn't be more

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Speaker 4: that for me, I just yeah, I just I'm amazed

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Speaker 1: What had a beautiful journey You've gone. No one ever

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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing of limitless, deep deep love. And

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Speaker 1: these tiny little moments that are They're like explosive. It's

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Speaker 1: like a super nova. You go. I didn't realize just

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Speaker 2: It's incredible. What do you want?

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Speaker 1: Last year, I actually just felt nothing, but I felt

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Speaker 1: so much sorry for you last year, Jack, because actually

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Speaker 1: I knew that better times would come. They were because

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Speaker 1: it is such a It's a gift being a parent.

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Speaker 1: It's the greatest journey in my life as much as

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Speaker 1: I've loved. Yesterday was twenty five years in radio, which

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Speaker 1: has been an amazing journey in study is to end

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Speaker 1: and what it studies unfolding for you Patty as well.

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Speaker 1: And it was so lovely yesterday Jack and I was

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Speaker 2: And in the car, I cannot tell you how happy

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Speaker 1: Saying, I'm really looking forward to seeing the Wiggles in

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Speaker 1: two days time, and you really meant it. And a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, Gordon came in right and if me,

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Speaker 1: Kaylyn Andria went for a drink after Hodly Modi essay,

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Speaker 1: seen him like that.

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Speaker 2: And at one.

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Speaker 1: Point we were all talking to your wife and now

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Speaker 2: You are actually I came to find you check you right.

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