1 00:00:04,071 --> 00:00:06,551 Speaker 1: Podcast unite our voices. 2 00:00:08,191 --> 00:00:11,711 Speaker 2: Gotcha for Life and Black Magic Woman podcast acknowledges the 3 00:00:11,751 --> 00:00:15,311 Speaker 2: traditional owners of the land which we recorded this episode. 4 00:00:15,391 --> 00:00:18,391 Speaker 2: We also acknowledge the traditional owners of the land from 5 00:00:18,391 --> 00:00:21,271 Speaker 2: where you, the listener or viewer are tuning in. We 6 00:00:21,311 --> 00:00:23,751 Speaker 2: would like to pay our respects to elders both past 7 00:00:23,831 --> 00:00:26,951 Speaker 2: and present. We acknowledged that this land always was and 8 00:00:27,031 --> 00:00:33,351 Speaker 2: always will be Aboriginal land. This podcast talks about mental health, suicide, 9 00:00:33,511 --> 00:00:36,271 Speaker 2: and lived experience. If that brings anything up for you, 10 00:00:36,351 --> 00:00:39,431 Speaker 2: please take care while listening and remember you don't need 11 00:00:39,471 --> 00:00:45,831 Speaker 2: to worry alone. Welcome to Mental Fitness Conversations, a podcast 12 00:00:45,871 --> 00:00:50,031 Speaker 2: about how real people build their mental fitness through connection, community, 13 00:00:50,151 --> 00:00:52,991 Speaker 2: and simple everyday actions. Brought to you by Gotcha for 14 00:00:53,071 --> 00:00:56,791 Speaker 2: Life in partnership with Black Magic Woman. Here's your host, 15 00:00:56,991 --> 00:00:58,071 Speaker 2: Monda and Narrabels. 16 00:00:59,871 --> 00:01:04,511 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another amazing episode of the Black Magic 17 00:01:04,551 --> 00:01:07,951 Speaker 1: Woman and Got Your for Life partnership series. I really 18 00:01:08,631 --> 00:01:13,391 Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed the last couple of yarns, but this 19 00:01:13,471 --> 00:01:17,551 Speaker 1: is an episode that I've been dying to record because 20 00:01:17,551 --> 00:01:21,671 Speaker 1: it's with my niece, who I've witnessed over the last 21 00:01:21,791 --> 00:01:25,751 Speaker 1: kind of seven to eight years. Just going to an amazing, young, 22 00:01:25,991 --> 00:01:30,271 Speaker 1: deadly black woman. So Aliah Bulla, Welcome to the Black 23 00:01:30,271 --> 00:01:31,551 Speaker 1: Magic Woman Podcast. 24 00:01:31,711 --> 00:01:32,791 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 25 00:01:32,951 --> 00:01:35,311 Speaker 4: Can you tell us a little bit about yourself? 26 00:01:35,551 --> 00:01:39,951 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, so Alia BULLA tongue in an Aboriginal. My 27 00:01:40,031 --> 00:01:44,751 Speaker 3: mobs were Adrika Millroy from Wellington and Kuna barberan Smith 28 00:01:44,791 --> 00:01:50,271 Speaker 3: and Sutherlands. A bit about me? So I was married 29 00:01:50,351 --> 00:01:54,231 Speaker 3: last year. My anniversary is coming up in seven days. 30 00:01:54,311 --> 00:01:54,911 Speaker 1: Oh look. 31 00:01:56,351 --> 00:01:58,431 Speaker 4: Big shout out to the other half. 32 00:01:59,271 --> 00:02:00,671 Speaker 3: Yes, the other half. 33 00:02:00,911 --> 00:02:04,311 Speaker 4: So most people know him as Reem in the community. Yeah, 34 00:02:04,351 --> 00:02:06,231 Speaker 4: and in the NR rail for the Tigers. 35 00:02:06,631 --> 00:02:11,831 Speaker 1: He's a flying Fiji and abriage Fiji jarream Bula. If 36 00:02:11,871 --> 00:02:14,671 Speaker 1: you don't know Bayley's last name, yes, but your your 37 00:02:14,711 --> 00:02:15,311 Speaker 1: maiden name? 38 00:02:16,111 --> 00:02:16,591 Speaker 4: Hello? No? 39 00:02:16,951 --> 00:02:17,231 Speaker 3: Yes? 40 00:02:17,671 --> 00:02:21,471 Speaker 1: Tell us about growing up in your family as a 41 00:02:21,511 --> 00:02:22,631 Speaker 1: tongue an Aboriginal kid. 42 00:02:22,911 --> 00:02:27,311 Speaker 3: Oh. I loved it. I loved being amongst four other kids. 43 00:02:28,711 --> 00:02:32,871 Speaker 3: We always had a good family. Things aren't always perfect, 44 00:02:32,871 --> 00:02:35,151 Speaker 3: but I wouldn't wish for it to be any other way. 45 00:02:35,311 --> 00:02:38,511 Speaker 3: We're all sporty. A few of us are still playing sport, 46 00:02:38,871 --> 00:02:41,591 Speaker 3: some of some others. My two older siblings are. They 47 00:02:41,591 --> 00:02:45,111 Speaker 3: have children now, So I guess our family's just expanding, 48 00:02:45,671 --> 00:02:50,391 Speaker 3: but nothing but good memories. I love my childhood because 49 00:02:50,431 --> 00:02:52,471 Speaker 3: I know that all those different things molded me to 50 00:02:52,511 --> 00:02:53,511 Speaker 3: be who I am today. 51 00:02:53,751 --> 00:02:55,911 Speaker 1: And two very different cultures, right. 52 00:02:55,831 --> 00:02:59,191 Speaker 3: Yeah, but also have a lot of similarities to Dad 53 00:02:59,191 --> 00:03:01,391 Speaker 3: and Mum would always talk about that and how the 54 00:03:01,511 --> 00:03:04,951 Speaker 3: Tongue and Aboriginal cultures are very different but also have 55 00:03:05,271 --> 00:03:08,111 Speaker 3: a lot of things in common, like with our tribes, 56 00:03:08,191 --> 00:03:10,671 Speaker 3: like we have tribes and tongue in too. I feel 57 00:03:10,671 --> 00:03:13,311 Speaker 3: like that family aspect of both cultures is very similar 58 00:03:13,311 --> 00:03:14,271 Speaker 3: to you. 59 00:03:14,351 --> 00:03:16,151 Speaker 4: Got the biggest mob, Yeah, biggest mob. 60 00:03:16,271 --> 00:03:19,391 Speaker 3: Literally you'd think that Tonguan's are bad, and then you 61 00:03:19,431 --> 00:03:21,711 Speaker 3: go over to our originals the exact same thing. Four 62 00:03:21,791 --> 00:03:25,031 Speaker 3: hundred billion cousins, all of it. So I feel like 63 00:03:25,031 --> 00:03:27,071 Speaker 3: big families a lot of kids is very normal to 64 00:03:27,111 --> 00:03:28,871 Speaker 3: me on both sides. 65 00:03:29,231 --> 00:03:31,871 Speaker 1: Thinking about your dad and your deadly mum, biggest shout 66 00:03:31,871 --> 00:03:34,511 Speaker 1: out to you, my sister Margaret, the founder of Red 67 00:03:34,511 --> 00:03:37,991 Speaker 1: Friend Youth connect RYC and also. 68 00:03:37,711 --> 00:03:39,271 Speaker 4: Your dad Solomon Harmono. 69 00:03:39,791 --> 00:03:42,111 Speaker 1: My next question is going to be who have been 70 00:03:42,551 --> 00:03:45,431 Speaker 1: some of your biggest influences growing up? 71 00:03:45,991 --> 00:03:48,511 Speaker 3: I would say my mom and my dad. I say 72 00:03:48,511 --> 00:03:51,991 Speaker 3: they're both very like they instilled morals and things into 73 00:03:52,031 --> 00:03:54,831 Speaker 3: me from a young young age that we're just so 74 00:03:54,911 --> 00:03:58,431 Speaker 3: easy to carry through growing up as a young teen 75 00:03:59,391 --> 00:04:02,391 Speaker 3: through to being a young adult now. Dad coming from 76 00:04:02,431 --> 00:04:06,031 Speaker 3: a sporting respect, but also Mum who was also sporty, 77 00:04:06,111 --> 00:04:10,351 Speaker 3: very sporty, but basketball, yeah, basketball, but going into a 78 00:04:10,391 --> 00:04:13,991 Speaker 3: different kind of role in the community. She's been an 79 00:04:13,991 --> 00:04:17,071 Speaker 3: inspiration for me too. So another thing, they're both different things, 80 00:04:17,111 --> 00:04:20,431 Speaker 3: but they both are kind of interconnected and it kind 81 00:04:20,431 --> 00:04:22,791 Speaker 3: of ties into ry C two from the aspect of 82 00:04:22,831 --> 00:04:26,471 Speaker 3: culture and also like sport and fitness and things. So yeah, 83 00:04:26,551 --> 00:04:29,831 Speaker 3: I guess those two would definitely be my inspirations growing up. 84 00:04:30,351 --> 00:04:31,911 Speaker 4: Coming back to culture. 85 00:04:32,631 --> 00:04:35,791 Speaker 1: When I think about tongue and culture, I think about 86 00:04:35,951 --> 00:04:39,711 Speaker 1: faith because as I grew up in Brisbane for the 87 00:04:39,791 --> 00:04:42,111 Speaker 1: last thirty years and a lot of you know, a 88 00:04:42,111 --> 00:04:44,551 Speaker 1: lot of the tongue in community, Pacific Island of community, 89 00:04:44,551 --> 00:04:48,151 Speaker 1: Fijian pen I'm married to Fijian as well. You know, 90 00:04:48,271 --> 00:04:52,911 Speaker 1: church is definitely a big aspect of the kind of 91 00:04:53,151 --> 00:04:58,431 Speaker 1: life of Pacific Islanders. So talking about culture and even 92 00:04:58,471 --> 00:05:01,671 Speaker 1: thinking about you know, connection to country and I see 93 00:05:01,671 --> 00:05:05,271 Speaker 1: you go out two different like excursions of field trips 94 00:05:05,271 --> 00:05:06,631 Speaker 1: with your mum and uryc. 95 00:05:06,991 --> 00:05:09,471 Speaker 4: Yeah, you get to take them back to country. 96 00:05:09,591 --> 00:05:12,511 Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about talk to me about that in terms 97 00:05:12,591 --> 00:05:16,151 Speaker 1: of you know how important that is, especially for someone 98 00:05:16,191 --> 00:05:18,511 Speaker 1: like you're living here in the big city and the smoke. 99 00:05:18,311 --> 00:05:20,951 Speaker 3: And I was I would probably like lean into that. 100 00:05:21,311 --> 00:05:23,151 Speaker 3: Like being in the city, we don't get to just 101 00:05:23,231 --> 00:05:26,031 Speaker 3: pause for a second and kind of take time to reflect. 102 00:05:26,751 --> 00:05:29,511 Speaker 3: But getting away from it, so as you said, like 103 00:05:29,551 --> 00:05:31,711 Speaker 3: taking the kids away, we haven't been able to do 104 00:05:31,751 --> 00:05:34,311 Speaker 3: it for the past year just because of the carnival 105 00:05:34,311 --> 00:05:38,271 Speaker 3: actually being canceled. For context, it's a Gilgandra Windmill candival, 106 00:05:38,271 --> 00:05:40,951 Speaker 3: the best candival in the world. It's basketball. We take 107 00:05:41,551 --> 00:05:44,991 Speaker 3: a few kids from Ryice down there each year go 108 00:05:45,071 --> 00:05:48,751 Speaker 3: down to gil and stay at Uncle Ralph Naden's accommodation there, 109 00:05:48,791 --> 00:05:52,311 Speaker 3: and he's just like it's the most beautiful place. It's serene, 110 00:05:52,351 --> 00:05:55,871 Speaker 3: it's it's peaceful, and I think, yeah, for me, like 111 00:05:55,951 --> 00:05:59,111 Speaker 3: going back to culture and country is going back to 112 00:05:59,111 --> 00:06:03,191 Speaker 3: gil and just kind of I don't know, just letting 113 00:06:03,191 --> 00:06:06,431 Speaker 3: your hair down, just being free and taking in the 114 00:06:06,551 --> 00:06:10,351 Speaker 3: environment and everything about that so relaxing and so peaceful 115 00:06:10,991 --> 00:06:13,311 Speaker 3: and it's kind of like a reset in the way 116 00:06:13,751 --> 00:06:16,551 Speaker 3: that end of your thing everyone looks forward to doing 117 00:06:17,471 --> 00:06:18,791 Speaker 3: and then back to the big. 118 00:06:18,591 --> 00:06:23,511 Speaker 1: Smoke, back to the kind of chaos. 119 00:06:23,671 --> 00:06:25,871 Speaker 3: Yeah, one, I describe it as that. 120 00:06:25,991 --> 00:06:29,191 Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes you get lost amongst all there's chaos, 121 00:06:29,951 --> 00:06:31,111 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to. 122 00:06:32,671 --> 00:06:34,711 Speaker 4: Just trying to find yourself in. 123 00:06:34,631 --> 00:06:38,191 Speaker 1: The world and you're young and you're playing sport and 124 00:06:38,231 --> 00:06:41,431 Speaker 1: you're also working. I want to ask you about the 125 00:06:41,471 --> 00:06:42,151 Speaker 1: work that you do. 126 00:06:42,311 --> 00:06:43,271 Speaker 4: I know that you're at Red. 127 00:06:43,191 --> 00:06:46,631 Speaker 1: Friend you connect and I know you've done some different 128 00:06:46,711 --> 00:06:48,151 Speaker 1: roles there over the. 129 00:06:48,191 --> 00:06:49,151 Speaker 4: Last couple of years. 130 00:06:50,071 --> 00:06:53,031 Speaker 1: What led you to doing the work that you're doing 131 00:06:53,551 --> 00:06:54,591 Speaker 1: at URYC. 132 00:06:54,711 --> 00:06:58,871 Speaker 3: Well, ultimately following in my parents' footsteps. 133 00:06:58,431 --> 00:07:00,391 Speaker 1: It's like being of service to your community. 134 00:07:00,511 --> 00:07:03,831 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, And if it only felt natural it 135 00:07:03,871 --> 00:07:06,831 Speaker 3: grow from where it did from the block over ten 136 00:07:06,911 --> 00:07:09,351 Speaker 3: years ago to a few different spots and now, oh, 137 00:07:09,391 --> 00:07:11,991 Speaker 3: I see. I feel like it was only natural that 138 00:07:12,031 --> 00:07:15,191 Speaker 3: we did go into that after school. But also it 139 00:07:15,231 --> 00:07:17,151 Speaker 3: was just like you kind of wanted to get involved 140 00:07:17,151 --> 00:07:20,471 Speaker 3: in it because you saw how much buying and it 141 00:07:20,591 --> 00:07:23,431 Speaker 3: was happening from everyone in the community. It was just 142 00:07:23,431 --> 00:07:25,991 Speaker 3: a fun thing to be involved in and we were 143 00:07:26,031 --> 00:07:28,791 Speaker 3: really lucky as kids as the children of the founders, 144 00:07:29,031 --> 00:07:30,991 Speaker 3: and to be able to just slip into that role 145 00:07:31,271 --> 00:07:33,271 Speaker 3: and pretty much already know what we were doing just 146 00:07:33,311 --> 00:07:34,711 Speaker 3: because we were around it so much. 147 00:07:35,551 --> 00:07:39,631 Speaker 1: So you started off as volunteering basically no choice, That's 148 00:07:39,831 --> 00:07:43,911 Speaker 1: that's what you do, right. This is about those cultural 149 00:07:43,951 --> 00:07:48,271 Speaker 1: and community obligations, Yeah, which then kind of tie into 150 00:07:48,351 --> 00:07:50,031 Speaker 1: family obligations. 151 00:07:50,911 --> 00:07:53,071 Speaker 4: You do anything, Yeah, your mum. 152 00:07:52,991 --> 00:07:55,391 Speaker 1: And dad arcs of you, and sometimes they don't even 153 00:07:55,431 --> 00:07:56,671 Speaker 1: need arks, you just know. 154 00:07:56,991 --> 00:08:01,991 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, definitely in the Tongun culture, you get the 155 00:08:02,031 --> 00:08:02,831 Speaker 3: look my. 156 00:08:02,871 --> 00:08:06,431 Speaker 1: Kids get it from family. I was gonna ask Sat 157 00:08:06,471 --> 00:08:10,431 Speaker 1: in terms of you know, you're playing professional sports, yeah, 158 00:08:10,591 --> 00:08:15,191 Speaker 1: in terms of just thinking about you know, juggling you know, life, 159 00:08:15,191 --> 00:08:18,831 Speaker 1: your career, yeah, and you know playing sports. 160 00:08:19,031 --> 00:08:22,951 Speaker 4: Yea, how do you do that? Tell us what it's like. 161 00:08:23,791 --> 00:08:26,991 Speaker 3: So when I was in season, we're off season right now, 162 00:08:27,111 --> 00:08:30,191 Speaker 3: so I was an ow development for this year for Tigers. 163 00:08:31,071 --> 00:08:33,311 Speaker 3: I've grown up. I kind of came into Rep footy 164 00:08:33,351 --> 00:08:36,151 Speaker 3: a bit later before that. I was playing basketball through 165 00:08:36,191 --> 00:08:38,991 Speaker 3: my juniors. My first year was at Manly, so that's 166 00:08:38,991 --> 00:08:41,671 Speaker 3: where that comes from. That was Latasha Gal. I think 167 00:08:41,671 --> 00:08:44,271 Speaker 3: that's under nineteenes. My first year. That was such a 168 00:08:44,271 --> 00:08:46,791 Speaker 3: good year, probably one of my favorite years playing footy 169 00:08:47,151 --> 00:08:50,231 Speaker 3: because I didn't know a lot about the game itself, 170 00:08:50,551 --> 00:08:52,391 Speaker 3: but I just knew that I loved footy and I 171 00:08:52,471 --> 00:08:55,591 Speaker 3: just knew that natural footy will kind of take me 172 00:08:55,631 --> 00:08:57,871 Speaker 3: to where I needed to be. And so that was 173 00:08:57,911 --> 00:08:59,991 Speaker 3: my first year in Manly and then I ended up 174 00:08:59,991 --> 00:09:02,351 Speaker 3: getting the opportunity from there to be a development player 175 00:09:02,431 --> 00:09:05,751 Speaker 3: at Para and now at Tigers. So that's kind of 176 00:09:05,751 --> 00:09:08,631 Speaker 3: my journey in sport with Rugby League and also a 177 00:09:08,631 --> 00:09:11,791 Speaker 3: bit of basketball in the background. But now I don't know, 178 00:09:11,831 --> 00:09:14,071 Speaker 3: I'm kind of taking a different approach. I don't know 179 00:09:14,111 --> 00:09:17,791 Speaker 3: if that's like at Live or what it is, but 180 00:09:17,871 --> 00:09:21,511 Speaker 3: I'm starting to realize that I have a different passion. 181 00:09:21,671 --> 00:09:24,391 Speaker 3: I still love footy. My favorite favorite footy is Knockout 182 00:09:24,391 --> 00:09:25,631 Speaker 3: Footy Black Fellow Footy. 183 00:09:25,431 --> 00:09:26,991 Speaker 4: And he just came back from the knock Out. 184 00:09:27,191 --> 00:09:29,631 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, tell us you. 185 00:09:30,071 --> 00:09:34,951 Speaker 1: Was the player's player at the Queensland the MC. I've 186 00:09:35,031 --> 00:09:38,031 Speaker 1: in Brisbane recently. Yeah did you win? 187 00:09:38,151 --> 00:09:38,951 Speaker 4: Did you take that out? 188 00:09:39,071 --> 00:09:42,351 Speaker 3: No? We lost the Grand Final page you lose to 189 00:09:43,791 --> 00:09:47,631 Speaker 3: Murray Binders. Yeah yeah, such a yeah Queenslay Mob, such 190 00:09:47,671 --> 00:09:49,551 Speaker 3: a good team. Even though we lost, I still had 191 00:09:49,591 --> 00:09:52,831 Speaker 3: such a good experience. And those community kinds kind of 192 00:09:53,431 --> 00:09:55,111 Speaker 3: remind you of like why you fell in love with 193 00:09:55,151 --> 00:09:57,231 Speaker 3: the game in the first place. And you're kind of 194 00:09:57,351 --> 00:10:00,151 Speaker 3: just allowed to just play the star that you play 195 00:10:00,191 --> 00:10:02,471 Speaker 3: without having to worry about structures, without having to worry 196 00:10:02,511 --> 00:10:05,831 Speaker 3: about people above you. You there's no pressure. 197 00:10:05,751 --> 00:10:08,991 Speaker 4: And you're supported just to go out and do your thing. 198 00:10:09,111 --> 00:10:13,671 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I perform best in that environment, I feel like, 199 00:10:14,351 --> 00:10:17,671 Speaker 3: And so yeah, that's kind of well, things are changing 200 00:10:17,711 --> 00:10:20,511 Speaker 3: in my path. But I'm so happy and grateful and 201 00:10:22,191 --> 00:10:23,831 Speaker 3: I don't feel like I'm out of place like for 202 00:10:23,911 --> 00:10:24,431 Speaker 3: a second. 203 00:10:24,551 --> 00:10:26,951 Speaker 4: So everything's going good. Yeah, life is good. 204 00:10:27,111 --> 00:10:27,911 Speaker 3: Yeah, life is good. 205 00:10:28,071 --> 00:10:29,631 Speaker 4: Well when when life's not good? 206 00:10:29,791 --> 00:10:34,111 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And just thinking about the work that we do, 207 00:10:34,311 --> 00:10:37,911 Speaker 1: gotcha for life. It's around, you know, building your village, 208 00:10:38,191 --> 00:10:40,551 Speaker 1: making sure that nobody ever has to worry alone. 209 00:10:40,631 --> 00:10:40,871 Speaker 4: Yeah. 210 00:10:42,031 --> 00:10:44,911 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of our mob that are, you know, 211 00:10:45,031 --> 00:10:48,751 Speaker 1: struggling with their mental health and just the highs and 212 00:10:48,791 --> 00:10:52,031 Speaker 1: lows of life in general, right, but in particular growing 213 00:10:52,111 --> 00:10:54,951 Speaker 1: up in a black community, abitual community, being in Redfern, 214 00:10:55,551 --> 00:10:59,271 Speaker 1: there's so much grieving, there's so much sorry, business you're 215 00:10:59,271 --> 00:11:03,791 Speaker 1: constantly around young people at redfernd Youth Connect, right, so 216 00:11:03,831 --> 00:11:06,471 Speaker 1: you know exactly what I'm talking about. But when it 217 00:11:06,511 --> 00:11:10,591 Speaker 1: comes to your mental health, how do you you know, 218 00:11:10,791 --> 00:11:15,911 Speaker 1: for instance, you lost the Grand Final, something you really 219 00:11:15,951 --> 00:11:19,871 Speaker 1: wanted so bad, and that would affect people. You see 220 00:11:19,871 --> 00:11:22,951 Speaker 1: the tears, You could see people down and out. How 221 00:11:22,991 --> 00:11:25,791 Speaker 1: do you pick yourself? How do you pick yourself up 222 00:11:26,471 --> 00:11:27,271 Speaker 1: in those times? 223 00:11:27,391 --> 00:11:29,431 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is good because this is still fresh in 224 00:11:29,471 --> 00:11:29,871 Speaker 3: my mind. 225 00:11:31,311 --> 00:11:32,191 Speaker 4: Let's unpack it. 226 00:11:32,351 --> 00:11:36,671 Speaker 3: So, yeah, we lost the Semis in Redfern, sorry the 227 00:11:36,671 --> 00:11:40,431 Speaker 3: Semis at the knockout playing for Red Fern, it was 228 00:11:40,471 --> 00:11:42,951 Speaker 3: a really close game. It came right down to the wire, 229 00:11:44,351 --> 00:11:46,551 Speaker 3: and naturally you kind of look back at those times 230 00:11:46,591 --> 00:11:48,551 Speaker 3: in the game where you could have done things better, 231 00:11:49,111 --> 00:11:52,911 Speaker 3: you feel guilt. All those feelings come to you, and 232 00:11:52,951 --> 00:11:55,591 Speaker 3: I guess like that later that night, I just felt 233 00:11:55,591 --> 00:11:58,151 Speaker 3: really down. All those feelings come to you, because that's 234 00:11:58,151 --> 00:12:00,751 Speaker 3: what happens, like when you're kind of reflecting, not the 235 00:12:00,751 --> 00:12:02,791 Speaker 3: best stuff comes to mind. But I think it's so 236 00:12:02,831 --> 00:12:05,591 Speaker 3: important to like use your outlets, like Reem is a 237 00:12:05,591 --> 00:12:08,231 Speaker 3: massive outlet for me. We kind of got to talk 238 00:12:08,271 --> 00:12:10,111 Speaker 3: through those things and actually some of the thoughts that 239 00:12:10,151 --> 00:12:12,871 Speaker 3: I was thinking about myself were different from what the 240 00:12:12,911 --> 00:12:15,871 Speaker 3: truth was. And to have an ear to just be 241 00:12:15,991 --> 00:12:18,511 Speaker 3: there and kind of filter through those thoughts and remind 242 00:12:18,551 --> 00:12:21,711 Speaker 3: you of the truth is so good. And I think 243 00:12:21,751 --> 00:12:24,311 Speaker 3: that's something that has been so helpful for me throughout 244 00:12:24,311 --> 00:12:26,311 Speaker 3: my footy journey, but also in life, like even when 245 00:12:26,311 --> 00:12:28,751 Speaker 3: I'm feeling down, When you're in your own head, it's 246 00:12:28,791 --> 00:12:30,911 Speaker 3: easy to get carried away in your own thoughts. But 247 00:12:31,391 --> 00:12:33,151 Speaker 3: as you said, leaning on your village, leaning on the 248 00:12:33,151 --> 00:12:36,591 Speaker 3: people around you, and not having to kind of just 249 00:12:37,031 --> 00:12:40,671 Speaker 3: do things on your own is so important because those 250 00:12:40,711 --> 00:12:43,671 Speaker 3: soundboards for you can be so helpful and help you 251 00:12:43,711 --> 00:12:44,871 Speaker 3: actually realize reality. 252 00:12:45,031 --> 00:12:49,151 Speaker 1: And professional football, like, you know, your husband is playing 253 00:12:49,191 --> 00:12:52,951 Speaker 1: at the highest level, so he gets it. So the 254 00:12:52,991 --> 00:12:57,351 Speaker 1: best person to talk to about your game and where 255 00:12:57,431 --> 00:12:59,591 Speaker 1: you kind of thought you didn't do well and stuff 256 00:13:00,431 --> 00:13:03,791 Speaker 1: and what in terms of like trying to get at 257 00:13:03,791 --> 00:13:06,391 Speaker 1: the top, Like what does it take earlier to be 258 00:13:07,191 --> 00:13:08,831 Speaker 1: a professional athlete? 259 00:13:08,871 --> 00:13:09,631 Speaker 4: What does it take? 260 00:13:10,591 --> 00:13:13,591 Speaker 3: I would use I'm going to go off of Reem 261 00:13:13,631 --> 00:13:16,271 Speaker 3: as an example, because I feel like he's been in 262 00:13:16,271 --> 00:13:17,551 Speaker 3: there for a few years. 263 00:13:17,871 --> 00:13:19,431 Speaker 4: I think it's how old is it. 264 00:13:19,871 --> 00:13:22,271 Speaker 1: He's twenty three Okay, yeah, we're talking about Just for 265 00:13:22,311 --> 00:13:24,631 Speaker 1: people that don't know Harry, we're talking about and you 266 00:13:24,711 --> 00:13:26,591 Speaker 1: might not follow NRL. 267 00:13:26,351 --> 00:13:27,191 Speaker 4: Or Rugby league. 268 00:13:27,511 --> 00:13:31,071 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty three four seasons and the NRL seasons in 269 00:13:31,111 --> 00:13:35,031 Speaker 3: the NRL the biggest thing that I've seen him. There's 270 00:13:35,071 --> 00:13:38,391 Speaker 3: a few things. One, he's a very disciplined person. When 271 00:13:38,391 --> 00:13:41,111 Speaker 3: there's no routine or structure, he kind of like not 272 00:13:41,151 --> 00:13:43,871 Speaker 3: freaks out, but it's not nature to him. So I 273 00:13:43,911 --> 00:13:47,871 Speaker 3: think just by being a really disciplined, routine person, it's 274 00:13:47,911 --> 00:13:52,471 Speaker 3: helped him to apply those things into footy. Another thing 275 00:13:52,591 --> 00:13:55,111 Speaker 3: is he's just a good person off the field, and 276 00:13:55,151 --> 00:13:57,791 Speaker 3: I think blessings come to him because of the way 277 00:13:57,831 --> 00:14:02,711 Speaker 3: he carries himself and people and positivity kind of radiates 278 00:14:02,751 --> 00:14:05,191 Speaker 3: from him, but it's returned to him too, because the 279 00:14:05,231 --> 00:14:07,631 Speaker 3: way he carries himself, it's not a facade, like that's 280 00:14:07,711 --> 00:14:11,191 Speaker 3: just who he is as a person, and so opportunities 281 00:14:11,231 --> 00:14:14,591 Speaker 3: come from that. And also his hard work. That's another thing. 282 00:14:15,071 --> 00:14:18,711 Speaker 3: It doesn't come easy. He's obviously a naturally talented player. 283 00:14:18,831 --> 00:14:21,991 Speaker 3: He's one of the most naturally talented player players I've 284 00:14:21,991 --> 00:14:22,671 Speaker 3: ever seen. 285 00:14:22,591 --> 00:14:25,431 Speaker 1: And commentators they point this out on it so it's 286 00:14:25,471 --> 00:14:26,831 Speaker 1: not just his wife. 287 00:14:27,311 --> 00:14:32,471 Speaker 3: I know guys, he is genuinely Yeah, he can play 288 00:14:32,471 --> 00:14:35,191 Speaker 3: footy and it's just natural second nature to him, but 289 00:14:35,991 --> 00:14:39,471 Speaker 3: it's backed up with hard work. It's not just natural 290 00:14:39,911 --> 00:14:42,911 Speaker 3: ability that gets you there. It's discipline and it's being 291 00:14:42,951 --> 00:14:45,231 Speaker 3: a good person off the field. Give him back. 292 00:14:45,751 --> 00:14:46,311 Speaker 4: Community. 293 00:14:46,671 --> 00:14:48,791 Speaker 1: Yeah, that community is very important. 294 00:14:48,791 --> 00:14:51,711 Speaker 4: The community. Nobody really would know. 295 00:14:51,871 --> 00:14:53,911 Speaker 1: But you know, for a couple of years I was 296 00:14:53,951 --> 00:14:56,671 Speaker 1: seeing you when he was just your boyfriend. When he 297 00:14:56,711 --> 00:15:01,151 Speaker 1: first introduced me to him at our yc yous were 298 00:15:01,151 --> 00:15:02,031 Speaker 1: youth workers. 299 00:15:02,111 --> 00:15:07,831 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's how volunteers. We met at doing youth work. 300 00:15:08,951 --> 00:15:11,911 Speaker 3: So he cou'd come down from Queensland, not playing footy 301 00:15:11,991 --> 00:15:14,591 Speaker 3: yet and just looking for a job and he came to. 302 00:15:16,431 --> 00:15:19,951 Speaker 1: So you fell into your path, Lay, how's this? Yeah 303 00:15:20,151 --> 00:15:22,631 Speaker 1: I didn't know that story, You didn't, Yeah, but I 304 00:15:22,711 --> 00:15:23,391 Speaker 1: just saw. 305 00:15:23,191 --> 00:15:23,911 Speaker 4: Him around kids. 306 00:15:23,951 --> 00:15:27,511 Speaker 1: I saw you around kids, and how these little people, 307 00:15:27,631 --> 00:15:30,031 Speaker 1: these young people, these young adults, some of them are 308 00:15:30,031 --> 00:15:33,271 Speaker 1: finished you twelve now like my nephew Bowali. We got 309 00:15:33,271 --> 00:15:35,991 Speaker 1: little tin or there and Tiger Piece and gied as 310 00:15:36,031 --> 00:15:40,871 Speaker 1: little girl Amani. They look up to you, especially those 311 00:15:40,871 --> 00:15:42,431 Speaker 1: little girls Lee, They look up to you and the 312 00:15:42,471 --> 00:15:45,231 Speaker 1: little boys look up to Jerreim as well. What does 313 00:15:45,311 --> 00:15:50,351 Speaker 1: that feel like to know that you're the next generation 314 00:15:50,471 --> 00:15:53,191 Speaker 1: these little people want to be like you. 315 00:15:53,431 --> 00:15:56,631 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you never think, being a young person 316 00:15:56,711 --> 00:16:00,111 Speaker 3: that you'd become that person for someone one day. You 317 00:16:00,231 --> 00:16:02,031 Speaker 3: kind of look up to those people when you're young 318 00:16:02,071 --> 00:16:04,271 Speaker 3: and be like wow, like I wish I could be 319 00:16:04,311 --> 00:16:06,951 Speaker 3: like them. I don't think I'll ever get there. I 320 00:16:06,951 --> 00:16:09,071 Speaker 3: don't know if I will get there, But it just 321 00:16:09,111 --> 00:16:12,911 Speaker 3: happens naturally as you go throughout life, and especially especially 322 00:16:12,911 --> 00:16:15,431 Speaker 3: being in the community, when you strive for things and 323 00:16:15,471 --> 00:16:17,831 Speaker 3: you grow up, automatically you become a role model to 324 00:16:18,551 --> 00:16:21,511 Speaker 3: the young kids in your in your community. Yeah, it's 325 00:16:21,511 --> 00:16:24,431 Speaker 3: still kind of hitting me that that's happening. Like even 326 00:16:24,471 --> 00:16:28,391 Speaker 3: with Ani Kuana from Redfern asking me to present jersey 327 00:16:28,391 --> 00:16:30,831 Speaker 3: to the jerseys to the little girls in Redfern and 328 00:16:30,871 --> 00:16:33,311 Speaker 3: her saying just saying those things like girls look up 329 00:16:33,351 --> 00:16:36,271 Speaker 3: to us, it's still surreal, Like it's kind of pinched 330 00:16:36,311 --> 00:16:39,271 Speaker 3: me because Yeah, because you was that, I was that 331 00:16:39,311 --> 00:16:41,871 Speaker 3: little girl looking after someone, never thinking that I could 332 00:16:41,911 --> 00:16:42,271 Speaker 3: be there. 333 00:16:42,871 --> 00:16:47,231 Speaker 1: I keep thinking about the strength of our culture, you know, 334 00:16:47,391 --> 00:16:52,351 Speaker 1: just keeping strong mentally strong, physically strong. What does kind 335 00:16:52,391 --> 00:16:55,671 Speaker 1: of being culturally strong or even mentally fit, What does 336 00:16:55,711 --> 00:16:56,311 Speaker 1: that mean to you? 337 00:16:56,591 --> 00:16:59,591 Speaker 3: Yeah? I always would relate it to sport because it's 338 00:16:59,631 --> 00:17:01,991 Speaker 3: the best way that I understand things. And so when 339 00:17:02,031 --> 00:17:05,551 Speaker 3: you're physically training and you're coming physically fit, you're putting 340 00:17:05,551 --> 00:17:08,991 Speaker 3: in work almost every single day in order to get 341 00:17:09,031 --> 00:17:11,311 Speaker 3: to an end goal. In the same sense, I would 342 00:17:11,351 --> 00:17:14,071 Speaker 3: say that mental fitness is those things, those little things 343 00:17:14,071 --> 00:17:16,271 Speaker 3: that you do to keep yourself in check every single day. 344 00:17:16,471 --> 00:17:19,071 Speaker 3: Journaling is the thing that I love to do. The 345 00:17:19,111 --> 00:17:22,191 Speaker 3: work that got your full life does is kind of 346 00:17:22,231 --> 00:17:25,151 Speaker 3: flowing into that same thing. As you build your physical muscles, 347 00:17:25,151 --> 00:17:28,391 Speaker 3: you do with your mental and so building those things 348 00:17:28,391 --> 00:17:30,991 Speaker 3: each day, getting into those habits can really help you 349 00:17:31,031 --> 00:17:35,471 Speaker 3: to get an overall better mental wellbeing. And so yeah, 350 00:17:35,511 --> 00:17:38,031 Speaker 3: that's when you say mental fitness, that's kind of what 351 00:17:38,111 --> 00:17:39,111 Speaker 3: comes to mind. 352 00:17:39,431 --> 00:17:42,231 Speaker 1: I'm thinking now about the young people some messages. Now, 353 00:17:42,391 --> 00:17:45,591 Speaker 1: if we could talk to especially younger people listening to 354 00:17:45,591 --> 00:17:48,631 Speaker 1: this podcast, like, what messages do you want to share 355 00:17:48,671 --> 00:17:49,071 Speaker 1: with them? 356 00:17:49,551 --> 00:17:52,031 Speaker 3: I have a million, but probably the thing that comes 357 00:17:52,031 --> 00:17:55,911 Speaker 3: to mind is being comfortable in your own skin, being 358 00:17:55,951 --> 00:17:59,431 Speaker 3: comfortable being yourself. It's easy to compare yourself as a 359 00:17:59,471 --> 00:18:02,431 Speaker 3: young kid. It's easy to even look up to people 360 00:18:02,511 --> 00:18:05,511 Speaker 3: like me or well even other people. This is just 361 00:18:05,551 --> 00:18:07,511 Speaker 3: going off of things that I did as a young person. 362 00:18:07,551 --> 00:18:10,191 Speaker 3: I'd look up to people and think I'd never get there, 363 00:18:10,311 --> 00:18:13,911 Speaker 3: or think kind of compare myself and yeah, the saying 364 00:18:13,951 --> 00:18:17,311 Speaker 3: is comparison is the theft of joy. So I think 365 00:18:17,631 --> 00:18:20,231 Speaker 3: just being content with where you are right now and 366 00:18:20,271 --> 00:18:22,911 Speaker 3: knowing that with trust, you're going to get there eventually. 367 00:18:22,951 --> 00:18:25,271 Speaker 3: And that's just what happens when you grow up, like 368 00:18:25,351 --> 00:18:28,111 Speaker 3: things kind of fall into place, and if they don't, 369 00:18:28,271 --> 00:18:30,551 Speaker 3: you have people around you who will also help you. 370 00:18:30,711 --> 00:18:34,271 Speaker 3: So my two main things are just being comfortable being 371 00:18:34,311 --> 00:18:37,951 Speaker 3: who you are, don't change for anyone, and just trusting 372 00:18:38,271 --> 00:18:41,071 Speaker 3: that things will work out for you. But also if 373 00:18:41,111 --> 00:18:43,711 Speaker 3: things don't go to plan, that you have a community 374 00:18:43,751 --> 00:18:46,231 Speaker 3: behind you that will back you one hundred percent, that 375 00:18:46,271 --> 00:18:47,951 Speaker 3: will support you at the drop of a hat. So 376 00:18:48,671 --> 00:18:49,431 Speaker 3: that would probably be. 377 00:18:49,431 --> 00:18:51,911 Speaker 1: My besit Yeah, be you yeah, back yourself. 378 00:18:51,991 --> 00:18:52,791 Speaker 4: Yeah. I love that. 379 00:18:52,951 --> 00:18:57,231 Speaker 1: Especially growing up in an Aboriginal community, there's a lot 380 00:18:57,271 --> 00:19:00,271 Speaker 1: of outside noise, yeah, and there's a lot of negative 381 00:19:00,431 --> 00:19:07,031 Speaker 1: yeah narratives, especially mainstream media that impact us impacts anybody. 382 00:19:07,191 --> 00:19:09,151 Speaker 1: You know, when people are talking about you and it's 383 00:19:09,191 --> 00:19:13,471 Speaker 1: not right, it's completely wrong, that has an effect, right, 384 00:19:13,511 --> 00:19:15,111 Speaker 1: a negative effect on our mental health. 385 00:19:15,871 --> 00:19:18,231 Speaker 4: For some of the mob that are listening. 386 00:19:17,871 --> 00:19:20,591 Speaker 1: That might be struggling right now, what would you say 387 00:19:20,631 --> 00:19:21,471 Speaker 1: to them? 388 00:19:21,791 --> 00:19:25,511 Speaker 3: I would say that everything's going to be okay. I 389 00:19:25,511 --> 00:19:28,391 Speaker 3: would say to lean into your village, whether that be 390 00:19:28,431 --> 00:19:31,431 Speaker 3: your family or even your school community. If you go 391 00:19:31,511 --> 00:19:34,551 Speaker 3: to a youth center, being the peers around you, don't 392 00:19:34,591 --> 00:19:37,511 Speaker 3: be afraid to lean into them. That would be my advice. 393 00:19:37,911 --> 00:19:41,271 Speaker 3: And just keep in check, keep yourself in check mentally, 394 00:19:41,671 --> 00:19:44,831 Speaker 3: do things for yourself, self care things every single day 395 00:19:45,191 --> 00:19:47,671 Speaker 3: so that you can kind of put yourself in the 396 00:19:47,711 --> 00:19:51,311 Speaker 3: best possible place mentally, and then it'll be easier for you. 397 00:19:53,151 --> 00:19:57,191 Speaker 1: And I was just thinking in terms of community centers 398 00:19:57,271 --> 00:20:00,271 Speaker 1: and having access to people like your mum and dad 399 00:20:00,991 --> 00:20:05,191 Speaker 1: to yearn with, Like, how lucky to have grown up 400 00:20:05,231 --> 00:20:09,071 Speaker 1: in these communities that not a lot of Aboriginal people 401 00:20:09,071 --> 00:20:11,751 Speaker 1: Black Fellow's Mob have have had that privilege. 402 00:20:11,831 --> 00:20:12,791 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was so lucky. 403 00:20:12,871 --> 00:20:16,351 Speaker 1: We've got Redfern Youth Connect, We've had the community center 404 00:20:16,351 --> 00:20:18,671 Speaker 1: on the block. When I was growing up in Redfern 405 00:20:18,751 --> 00:20:21,471 Speaker 1: we had the settlement when we were in Waterloo, and 406 00:20:21,511 --> 00:20:25,031 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Street we had the factory, so we could go 407 00:20:25,151 --> 00:20:26,791 Speaker 1: between different places. 408 00:20:27,071 --> 00:20:30,271 Speaker 3: So Redford community is so lucky that there's so many 409 00:20:30,311 --> 00:20:30,951 Speaker 3: different things. 410 00:20:31,191 --> 00:20:34,071 Speaker 1: I know, thinking about next year now in the future, 411 00:20:35,351 --> 00:20:39,631 Speaker 1: what's your next plan like obviously NRLW, Yeah, you're still 412 00:20:39,631 --> 00:20:40,631 Speaker 1: giving the system. 413 00:20:40,751 --> 00:20:42,991 Speaker 4: Yeah, what does next year look like? What does the 414 00:20:43,031 --> 00:20:44,871 Speaker 4: future look like? For ali Abula? 415 00:20:45,991 --> 00:20:50,551 Speaker 3: To be honest, it's just going to be following where 416 00:20:50,591 --> 00:20:53,991 Speaker 3: my passion leads me. And for me, I'm faith centered, 417 00:20:54,071 --> 00:20:58,031 Speaker 3: so and also speaking with my husband too, and just 418 00:20:58,071 --> 00:21:00,791 Speaker 3: kind of trusting the journey that I'm going on. I 419 00:21:00,871 --> 00:21:02,191 Speaker 3: do feel like these are going to look a bit 420 00:21:02,231 --> 00:21:05,271 Speaker 3: different next year, and I'm so happy and fine with that. 421 00:21:05,711 --> 00:21:09,431 Speaker 3: And you know, I have faith that whatever will happen, 422 00:21:09,671 --> 00:21:12,951 Speaker 3: I'll be okay and things will work out exactly has 423 00:21:13,271 --> 00:21:14,751 Speaker 3: how they plan to work out. 424 00:21:14,911 --> 00:21:17,751 Speaker 1: And that's when you do grow up in a faith 425 00:21:18,871 --> 00:21:22,711 Speaker 1: based family and culture and community, and I hear it 426 00:21:22,711 --> 00:21:23,591 Speaker 1: with my husband's family. 427 00:21:23,591 --> 00:21:25,231 Speaker 4: Always know the Lord will look after you. 428 00:21:25,911 --> 00:21:29,351 Speaker 1: Keep doing the right things, keep doing the things that 429 00:21:29,391 --> 00:21:32,431 Speaker 1: you're meant to be doing, be of service, do good 430 00:21:32,431 --> 00:21:34,551 Speaker 1: in the world, be there for other there's all those 431 00:21:34,551 --> 00:21:38,631 Speaker 1: little things that you're kind of reminded of that that 432 00:21:38,671 --> 00:21:43,031 Speaker 1: pays off. I'm excited for you, my girl. I'm just 433 00:21:43,111 --> 00:21:46,231 Speaker 1: so it's that kind of proud auntie moment. 434 00:21:46,351 --> 00:21:47,631 Speaker 4: When I was watching you on the. 435 00:21:48,111 --> 00:21:51,271 Speaker 1: TV, watching you and then seeing you get Players Player, 436 00:21:51,351 --> 00:21:53,591 Speaker 1: I was like, man, your future is so big. 437 00:21:54,911 --> 00:21:56,111 Speaker 4: The world is there always star. 438 00:21:56,751 --> 00:21:59,871 Speaker 1: You've got the most amazing family, and you come from 439 00:21:59,911 --> 00:22:01,431 Speaker 1: the most amazing cultures. 440 00:22:02,911 --> 00:22:04,311 Speaker 4: You're destined for greatness. 441 00:22:04,311 --> 00:22:09,071 Speaker 1: So thank you Watch Out World, thank you for being 442 00:22:09,151 --> 00:22:14,991 Speaker 1: part of this amazing partnership where we get to talk 443 00:22:15,031 --> 00:22:18,511 Speaker 1: about the great work that we're doing at Gotcha for Life. 444 00:22:18,551 --> 00:22:22,311 Speaker 1: And if people have never heard about the foundation, jump 445 00:22:22,351 --> 00:22:24,471 Speaker 1: on have a look at our show notes. We'll put 446 00:22:24,511 --> 00:22:28,951 Speaker 1: some of those kind of websites and resources. We've launched 447 00:22:29,151 --> 00:22:33,351 Speaker 1: our Mental Fitness Gym, so you can download on your 448 00:22:33,431 --> 00:22:36,071 Speaker 1: phone the app and you can check in. 449 00:22:36,351 --> 00:22:37,671 Speaker 4: And I'm not gonna lie. 450 00:22:38,111 --> 00:22:41,191 Speaker 1: I actually check in when I'm not feeling one hundred 451 00:22:41,191 --> 00:22:43,751 Speaker 1: percent being a busy mum, being a wife, trying to 452 00:22:43,791 --> 00:22:46,991 Speaker 1: run a business, doing a podcast on the side, and 453 00:22:47,031 --> 00:22:49,911 Speaker 1: also dealing with a lot of those culture and community obligations. 454 00:22:50,551 --> 00:22:55,231 Speaker 1: But this was such an uplifting and light conversation that 455 00:22:55,311 --> 00:22:57,071 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure most people that are listening are going 456 00:22:57,111 --> 00:23:01,991 Speaker 1: to feel really energized to hear your voice, to hear 457 00:23:02,031 --> 00:23:04,751 Speaker 1: your story, and hopefully, I reckon you're going to have 458 00:23:04,791 --> 00:23:07,671 Speaker 1: a few more supporters now. Thank you, so keep up 459 00:23:07,671 --> 00:23:11,151 Speaker 1: the good work and to all the mob at Redfern 460 00:23:11,151 --> 00:23:14,831 Speaker 1: Youth Connect, love you all, to all the young people 461 00:23:15,951 --> 00:23:20,031 Speaker 1: that are at the program that use the services. I 462 00:23:20,111 --> 00:23:23,551 Speaker 1: know for a fact that my sister been away for instance, 463 00:23:23,871 --> 00:23:26,191 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to work full time if she didn't 464 00:23:26,231 --> 00:23:29,271 Speaker 1: have the support from your mum and dad. So thanks 465 00:23:29,311 --> 00:23:31,791 Speaker 1: for the work that you and your family and just 466 00:23:31,831 --> 00:23:36,431 Speaker 1: being of service to our community. It hasn't gone unnoticed. Yeah, 467 00:23:36,551 --> 00:23:41,151 Speaker 1: thank you so much. To everyone that's been listening. Thank 468 00:23:41,191 --> 00:23:44,711 Speaker 1: you for just following the journey, especially here at Black 469 00:23:44,751 --> 00:23:49,591 Speaker 1: Magic Women. Having people like Aleah on this podcast just 470 00:23:49,631 --> 00:23:52,231 Speaker 1: gives you a bit of an insight into the different 471 00:23:52,311 --> 00:23:56,031 Speaker 1: lives that we live as both Aboriginal and tonge Why 472 00:23:56,071 --> 00:23:56,911 Speaker 1: can't we be both? 473 00:23:58,271 --> 00:23:59,391 Speaker 4: But yeah, we're not all the same. 474 00:23:59,391 --> 00:24:04,511 Speaker 1: We're all different people that have different experiences and our lifeves. 475 00:24:03,991 --> 00:24:05,991 Speaker 4: Aren't all about trauma. 476 00:24:06,191 --> 00:24:08,991 Speaker 1: There's so much that we're doing and so much that 477 00:24:08,991 --> 00:24:12,191 Speaker 1: should be celebrated. And this podcast and the partnership We've 478 00:24:12,191 --> 00:24:14,871 Speaker 1: Got You for Love is also an opportunity to celebrate 479 00:24:15,231 --> 00:24:19,551 Speaker 1: the richness of averageinal culture. So thank you for being 480 00:24:19,631 --> 00:24:22,511 Speaker 1: part of it. Until next time, by us for an hour. 481 00:24:23,871 --> 00:24:27,511 Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in to mental fitness conversations. Keep building 482 00:24:27,511 --> 00:24:30,471 Speaker 2: your emotional muscles with the free Mental Fitness Gym app 483 00:24:30,551 --> 00:24:34,271 Speaker 2: packed with tools, tips, and everyday actions to support your 484 00:24:34,351 --> 00:24:37,311 Speaker 2: mental fitness. Download it from the App Store or Google 485 00:24:37,351 --> 00:24:41,551 Speaker 2: play Store or visit the Mentalfitnessgym dot org. 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