WEBVTT - A Tech Bro Dictionary To Impress Your Dating Matches 👀 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:04.440 Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:05.960 and Frooms catch up podcast. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:12.640 It's Flex and Frooms. Potty addition, we're talking about natural deodorant. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.320 You know, you know, but I was saying the first 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:17.239 time I used this natural deodorant from one of those 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.959 like bulk nut stores on King Street, what do you 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.320 call it? Anyway, I bought a natural Yoda from then, 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:26.360 a little little black tin or black glass jar, white 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:27.680 or whatever. I put it on my arm. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:33.199 Wait you like, yeah, I'm I'm in it anyway, I 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.639 use this natural deodorant the way that it dried out 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.560 my armpits so much that it bled and scabbed over. 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:45.120 I'm telling fair, telling you. Then I want to do 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:46.920 some googling. They said that a lot of natural deodorants 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.920 at the time, this was vintage twenty thirteen or whatever, 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.880 use a lot of bi carp which is so drying. 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:54.840 And it's like, it's two. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.480 Your episode of Girlie, What were you doing on that 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:57.240 side of the road. 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.400 On that side of the road. Serious, I'm a preservative girlie. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.280 But like my my circles, I dabble, you know what 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:05.559 I mean, I'm the odd one out. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:07.240 Well, I'll be. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.839 Best friends of vegans. I'm the last man's standing me too. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.360 Yeah, it's the quirky girl pipeline. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.520 Yeah, definitely, the quirky progressive I'm going to resist for 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:17.919 the culture me too. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.200 I think we add a little bit of spice asolutely. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:21.600 It's almost it's subversive. 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:26.120 Doing what is expected of us is subversive, I think absolutely. Anyway, 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:27.679 enough talk enjoy it to. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.600 The podcast Flex and Frooms. 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.920 LEXI, I'm a performer. You are a natural born stage stress. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.119 Correct perhaps an actor in another stage stress? 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:39.120 Do you want to do that to yourself? 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.920 Eo yeah, babes, Okay, I'm happy to be a sheeo 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.640 despite what I say. Most of the days, I did 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.640 a live show called Besties. It was conceptualized by myself 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.920 and a man called Louis Hansen, and essentially it's a 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.200 sleepover format on a stage. Did we get five hour 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:56.960 of you in Melbourne? 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.640 Absolutely from the age. 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.720 Perhaps the most precious newspaper. Yeah, yeah we did again. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:03.840 Did we then go on to do a Sydney run 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:04.920 that was sold out. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.280 Back to back? Well, I'm not talking sitting out in 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.120 the box office for six weeks sold out. I'm talking live. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.720 Theyll to purchase within hours sold out. Yes, people aren't 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.240 ready for this kind of prestige. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.480 We came on the friday we did at the Comedy Store, 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:19.240 which if you're in Sydney, I implore you to go 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.000 to the Comedy Store. It's in Moore Park. The crowd 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.880 was ravenous, fast, flex Mummy, Keryl, every single thing we said, 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.200 laughing obs Okay, it gave us perhaps a falseness of security, 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.920 because why did the next day on a Saturday at 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.320 the Factory Theater. I don't want to use word flop 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.119 because I can only speak on behalf of myself talk 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.280 to me. But it wasn't giving. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.680 Oh and I learned a few k you itself wasn't 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.239 as intimate as the Comedy Store. 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.400 Okay, it wasn't a venue. It was the time slot. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.320 Our show was at five pm on a Saturday. It's 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.799 verging on matinee versus night show. Okay, perhaps the worst 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.000 time to be doing a live show. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:53.240 More. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.520 You know, nobody's drunk except for four people that sat 0:02:56.560 --> 0:03:00.480 in the front row to heckle us. Four men or 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.520 like oh like. They kept saying no, no, and I 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.520 was like, not Australian, No, they're Australian but even they're 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.440 just getting into the gags. So I've learned three things 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.040 from this experience. Number One, if you have a choice, 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:13.520 don't perform at five pm. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:14.120 It's better. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.480 You wonder why these comedians are doing shows at like 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.240 ten thirty. I was like, who does that? Because people 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.840 are crazy and tired, and when you're tired, your brain 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.040 doesn't understand what's going on. So everything's funny. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.240 But I also just think that five pm, as you said, 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.320 it's a strange time. We're still in work mode for 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.560 a lot of people. They've rushed from the office to 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.720 get to your gig. They've changed. It's messy. Ten thirty. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.800 You get up the whole day, you know where you're 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.840 meant to be, you know what time. It is, totally ready, 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.320 not you yawning into the mic the middle of your 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:44.160 own segment. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.920 This is thick okay. Number two, once you've done all 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.640 the rehearsing, do some back to back nights where you 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.160 haven't really slept on the Friday night and we're not 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.000 to a party in Bondi, I'm okay. Party on the 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:59.280 ocean in a Spanish mission, bunch of flats. It's a 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.280 seventies poor no theme party. I'm there till three thirty 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.560 Amka dancing Dancing. Dan. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.400 You say last time you got down with it. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.360 I got down with the young folks, met some friends, 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.200 met some fans of the show, and then the next 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.560 day I performed quite well. I would say number three, 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.520 shout out. This isn't so much of a learning then, 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.080 I guess sharing with the audience. Shout out to the 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.200 chick came all the way from Tasmania hot to Sydney 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:25.000 to watch our show. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:26.120 Ah. 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.440 So yeah, all I'll say is, if you are a 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.719 natural born former like me, get yourself out in the 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.640 comedy festival. It's actually so fun. It's something that I 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.680 wanted to do for many years now and I reaped 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.880 nothing but rewards. The five star says it all really 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.600 fam in the age. 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.520 Flex and Rooms, I'm Kater Flexi. 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.919 As you know, I have an interesting tech not so 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.520 much take it stuff, But how do I say the 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.280 social ramifications of being a tech bro or tech Bodjason 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.599 to me, there's a lot of talk about Silicon Valley 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.720 and whatnot. You know what, Mark Zuckerberg, if you listen 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.719 to this, this is one of for you and your hosts. 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.040 Someone sends me a message, right, because on the podcast 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:04.840 a few weeks ago, I said, what even are all 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.160 these tech jobs? What are all your titles? What's an 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.280 account manager? What's a product manager? Yeah, what's a consultant? 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:11.320 Tech slander? 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.719 What's what's the Loyd? Guys? I still haven't gotten a 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.000 conclusive answer at this point. 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:17.440 Put a hand up. Michael knows. 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.440 Upon hearing this, somebody has DMed me to give me 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.640 a thorough understanding of what every job is in the 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.359 tech world. Are you ready, flex mummy? 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:27.000 I'm ready. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:32.360 Number one consulting. You make powerpoints and also you will 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.440 get late night emails from the partner of the firm 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:39.919 asking plus fix p l Z fix No like punctuation. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.320 I kind of like that, though, because what slows me 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:46.440 down from doing emails is email formatting. Hey, whoever, hope 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.800 you're well. I was just thinking so and so and 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:52.599 so I prefer please fix. That's the big dog in me. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:58.159 Account manager. You are the client's punching bag. End scene. 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.920 Product manager. The customer tells me what's wrong with the product, 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.599 and I tell other people how to fix the product. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.360 That's cool, bit you, Yeah, I like that. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.680 She goes on. If someone tells you that they work 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.680 in tech. You could just say that's really vague, like 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.880 a business, and instead ask them what's your elevateor pitch loll. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.600 This chick is choosing violence. Finally, if someone says they 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.680 work in tech, she reckons it. It means that they 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:23.640 don't earn a lot of money but genuinely believe they'll 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.919 be rich one day. So it's not for your like 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.160 I want to be rich in two years type of person. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:29.719 This is a long haul game. 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.360 This is feeling really pointed and brutal. Well, I didn't know, 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.080 is that deep? Do you think people say they work 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:38.080 in tech because you gen pop normies don't understand the 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.200 details of what's happening behind closed doors. It's almost like 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.480 when you ask your friend what they do for work 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.280 and they regret it instantly because you don't really want 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.120 to know. Yeah, like, do you really want to? I'm 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.839 a product manager for customer services of AI products. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:55.560 That's why I'm explaining. Finally, and this one's a kicker listening. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.080 If someone says they work for a startup, ask them 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.960 what VC funding they have received so far and what 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.880 their burn rate is, And no matter what they say, say, hmmm, 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.760 are you a bit worried about it going under and O. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.239 So the next person, I's sky on a dating app 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:14.840 with works in tech, account manager at Tech. I'm come 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.880 on for you, BROV. It's not looking good. 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.120 Mammay, can I listen to flex and rooms flex and 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:27.440 fromes O cat Guess what I've come back from Coachella. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.960 I did the stereotypical Sydney person wants to experience the 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.280 world and went straight to La the Sydney of America. Yeah, 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.840 did I do pay a premium to stand in the desert? 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:39.640 You know what? How many steps? I was clocking? 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:40.560 Twenty k a day? 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.640 Okay, come to a sorry. 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:44.200 Fifteen? 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.040 Yeah, but on an average. 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:51.280 Three I'm on the six a day. That keeps good. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:55.920 It's cardio, endurance training, strength training, sprinting, all of the above. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:57.560 Would I do it again? I don't know. That's my 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.800 second time I might have gotten out my system. Let's 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.480 talk highlights and low lights pros. The scale of production 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:06.000 is unlike anything I've ever experienced before. Let's say you 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.920 go to Australian festivals which will not be named. You're 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.160 not expecting production. At most, you'll see a little MP 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.920 four file on the background, A little gradio Microsoft word 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.440 type beat, and that's the most you're getting. Maybe you'll 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.920 see a backup dancer or two doing a little two 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.600 step three step. That's it. Even the smallest stages at 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:32.800 Coachella have set design props, storylines, intro tracks, intermissions, costume changes. 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.800 It's just a spectacle and it's really nice to see 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.240 live music in the context of a production. Now, how 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.400 when you go to a lot of gigs in Australia, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:45.360 you're just experiencing your own playlist, But just in real life, 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.360 it's just the same vibe. You close your eyes, you're 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:51.000 in your bedroom. Not at Coachella. You are transported. And 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.120 for that, I say it's worth it. Con guess how 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:55.520 much that experience costs? 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.479 Ten k? Yeah, Geper's creepers. 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.360 Like when I went the first time. I remember I 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.120 stayed with a bunch of friends. There was five of 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:06.120 us in a one bedroom hotel, so three in a 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.280 room and then my best friend night sleeping on a 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:12.640 sofa bed. It's dank, it's dank, gets cramped. But because 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.040 it's in the middle of the desert, there's not that 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:18.440 many accommodation options, So ten k roughly, because you know 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:23.160 the conversion Yes, yes, conversion rates gets you three days 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:27.320 at a resort, shuttle to and fro vip tickets and 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.280 that's it. Can I get a who rah and flights. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.160 And get your phone lost? 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.720 How about it? Anyway, good luck everyone, see you next year. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:39.920 Fru meno through me boo, Mummy, Lex Mom. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.360 You're listening to Flex and Rooms on Kaita. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.320 It's Flex and Frooms and we are here in the 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.800 decked out studio thanks to Shivas Regal and Flexing. You 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.240 and I a long term collaborators. I would say I 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.560 believe our love of her started in twenty eighteen when 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:58.040 I interviewed you interviewee interviewer. Has anything changed in my style? 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.559 Probably not? But we work together anyway or the same payroll. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:08.680 At least we first made We first made our debut 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.319 as a couple together when I collabed on your conversation cards, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.640 the Frooms deck of the Reflex cards, very very popular 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.120 and it was quite a good collaborative process like I 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.439 find it, found it quite easy. You gave me a 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:24.320 lot of free rein and from that we began a relationship. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.600 You also came in and worked with me on a 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.080 branded piece that I did as an actor, and you 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.880 really elevated that piece. And it was in that moment 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:33.160 that we stopped together. 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:34.560 And we thought, wait a second. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.680 You held my arms and you said, I think we 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:37.760 should do something together. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.560 That sounded something I would say, and it was like 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.240 the Heaven Zone and then not follow up on it. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.160 We followed up, yeah, eventually, but I. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.680 Thought, in that moment, yeah, it's a bit one boys. 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.120 This feels good. And then we went on. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:49.839 How many years in the making though. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.360 But it wasn't until twenty twenty that we oh, I 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:51.840 guess we did. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.680 It was twenty eighteen. Let's say we met, so our 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:59.280 timeline synced up, but knew of each other before then. 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.440 This might be five, six, seven years in the making 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.199 if you really think about it. And I don't think 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:08.720 that every collaborative coupling requires that much edging. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.160 I mean, if we're going to go there. 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.199 But I think it's very helpful. 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:14.920 We understand the law of each other. I think that's 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.760 what's important when you're choosing someone to collaborate with. It's 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.280 always helpful to know their discography, so to speak. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.559 Question for the class, Yes, it's collaboration necessary in no 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.040 professional success, I. 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.840 Would say my individuality complex would say no. I used 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:31.880 to love just working alone. I did a lot in 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.640 my old job, and I loved like the swallows of 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.520 a success that I got off my own back. But 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.840 now I see in life it's way more fun to 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.760 collaborate because what even matters is the end result. It's 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:44.600 all about the journey. 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.200 One more time, It's all about the journey before that, 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.760 what was the end result doesn't matter for the journey 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.840 just in a friend you make along the way. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.520 It's flexing frooms thanks to Shivers Regal. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.199 A little bit different today. If if you've got eyes 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:05.280 to accompany your viewing experience or your listening experience, you 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.800 would see our beautiful set thanks to Shivers Regal switching 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:11.240 it up, we've got budget too luxurious women. But on 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.880 the topic of success, I want to chat personal brands. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:15.880 What are they and do you have one? 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.000 I love the term personal brand because I think even 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.400 ten years ago it would be like we're living in 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.480 a black mirror episode, the idea that you as a 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:31.040 person are calling yourself a brand. What I was watching 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.560 a south Park episode the other day, which is my 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.320 how do I say? It's the Simpsons offacation of my 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:38.040 adult life. 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.560 So I learned what was I saying, Like, I think 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.880 of South Park helps me think about things in a 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.960 critical way. You told me the characters were four years 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:51.720 old every day. It may help you think about your 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:53.240 life in a critical way. 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:55.960 They did an episode the other day and bear with 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.360 me if you don't watch South Park where the boys 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.720 went to this like workshop that taught them how to 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.960 have a personal brand, and they go through and like 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.160 they did a slide show being like you can have this, this, 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.880 this or this, and it was just such a good 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.679 explanation of what it can sometimes feel like having a 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.840 personal brand on social media, particularly like I didn't come 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.160 into this necessarily thinking I'm going to have a personal brand, 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.600 but I guess just when you work with brands, when 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:21.440 you work with other people. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:22.600 So what did the episodes say? 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.000 It was kind of taking the piece out of the 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.640 idea of personal brands because it is very prescriptive and 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.440 like it was saying like you need to have this, this, this, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:30.800 and this. 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.600 Oh the irony of saying your personal brand can be 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.599 like segmented into these ten easy steps. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:42.240 Right exactly. And yes, someone who didn't necessarily go into 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.319 this line of work thinking that I needed a personal 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.720 brand beyond like the way that I looked for example, 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.959 it's it can sometimeys be a funny adjustment, like you'll 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:51.400 get a brief come through and would be like, we 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.440 want this for like a quirky x y Z and 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.719 I think I'm what is this what you see me for? 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:57.319 Like? Is that? 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.560 And because you like commodify your brand? Is that how 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.880 much I'm worth? Is that how much I'm worth? It's 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.320 kind of like an interesting experience both as a person 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.120 and as a brand. 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.000 Like how would you define what a personal brand is? 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.280 Personal brand is something that like if you would ask 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.560 ten people in a room, from like people that don't 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:15.960 know you at all to people that know you really 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.360 well online in the online space, not your family, what 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.880 would be like things that are in the ven diagram 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:25.040 that everybody says, ooh, so some of these things you 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.280 can't change. Like someone would be like, she's this age 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.400 for some people that's twenty, because other people that's sixty. 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.280 I'm not gonna decide for you, Like those things you 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.320 can't change, whereas like whether or not you dress well, 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.680 or you're quirky or you're not quirky, or you're. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.280 These things get coming up, babe, you want to process 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.760 and together or no, No, it's the age, it's the dating. 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.200 Now I get that. That makes a lot of sense. 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.200 You know, it's so interesting because I feel like personal 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:57.840 brands are odd, because commodifying your skills makes sense, commodifying 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:05.200 your interest makes sense, commodifying your education makes sense, commodifying 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:10.080 yourself a little bit dystopian. Not above it, not above it. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.360 I get amongst it every day. But I think that's 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.840 where the conversation becomes really odd, because in order to 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.440 define a personal brand, you would need to assign a 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:22.720 quantifiable value to what you offer people, which means that 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.320 your brand is usually the sum of the perception of you. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.520 And if you're unlucky or you haven't done enough conscious 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:33.000 effort to present in a certain way, then your brand 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:37.240 becomes this mishmash of things that you once expressed too 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.560 much and now you're stuck with them. 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:41.440 Shrek is a great example. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.480 Let's talk that. Bring that through. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.640 So probably during lockdown and I was strapped for things 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:49.520 to consume, so I wat Shrek for the first time, 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.840 started posting about it. And there's a lot of law 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.760 when it comes to Shrek, right and I didn't realize 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:56.920 the wellspring is that deep for things to talk about 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.760 ari Shrek and people love it. It's somehow the zeitgeist 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.880 is obsessed with Shrek. I don't know when it started. 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:04.800 I don't know if I was on the precipice or 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.720 the end wave of shrek Ism. 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.560 It's twenty twenty lockdown, so one would say not on 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:10.680 the precipice. 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.960 Maybe not, maybe not earlier, like Shrek means of him 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.360 being buff. We're around twenty sixteen, I will admit, but 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:18.840 that wasn't even something that I thought of as a 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.360 core brand. But still to this day, every day someone 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.800 sending me the Shrek Wrave, someone sending me like Shrek 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.920 above a church. That's someone I've been getting recently. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:31.400 And because you have this inadvertent Shrek brand and we 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:36.200 do this show, people think it's a mutual thing. Scary, unfortunate, disappointing. 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:37.960 Won't let it get between us though. 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.320 Of course I'm you're a green, so terrible choice for 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.280 today segment, But here we are. You know it flexing 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:45.960 rooms thanks to Shivas Regel. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.320 You're listening to flex and Rooms on Kaita. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.720 What did we see just this coming? Whenever it was 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:56.280 Metgaga one day. I don't know what it is about media, 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.520 but I find that I'm experiencing it when everybody else 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.040 is experience, which is odd for somebody who works in media. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:03.680 I think I should know when the Metcala is going 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:04.000 to be on. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.719 It just comes around, Ye comes around. 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.439 I heard some gossip that the Kardashians weren't going to 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.400 be invited. I don't know. I don't want to put 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.720 words in Anna wind Tour's mouth, but they were trying 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.080 to make a prestige again. But they were there. I 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.359 also heard they were going plant based for dining. 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:19.640 Oh. 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.440 Kiki Palmer went to the met Gala last year and 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:22.680 she was like, there's a reason why they don't show 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:23.040 you the food. 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.520 Here, move your hairs, do your thing. 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.080 What a banger, she Here's my thing about the Met Gala. 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.639 So the theme was Carl Lagafeld a line of beauty. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.439 What does that even mean? Every year? It makes no 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.600 sense to me because white people wearing burbery is burbery, 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.680 Car Lagafeld. Don't answer. Okay, don't fact check either. It's 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.520 not necessary. What would I have worn? Let's say if 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.560 we were going to this most recent one, right, I'm 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.200 torn between people who just gave generic red carpet glam 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.600 because when you have that many eyeballs on you, do 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.840 you want to be the kookiest girl on the venue 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:53.880 or do you just want to be beautiful for a day? 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:54.199 Right? 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.439 Are you going to rock up in cat prosthetics like 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.320 Doja Cat to make a statement. 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:02.120 Maybe she's on her Northway Flex getting into the prosthetics everytime. 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.920 Northwest is a prosthetics genius, but we'll leave her out 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.760 of it. Personally, I'm going with the Kimmy K. Look, 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.199 Kimmy K dominates, okay, and I think it's through years 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.480 of prejudice of her not getting let in. Okay, She's 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.080 come through and she's excellent. 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:17.840 That beat it look. 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.840 Remember just on Playboy two thousand and seven and I thought, oh, 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:21.720 she's doing the Playboy. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.040