WEBVTT - KATRINA MILOSEVIC TALKS WENTWORTH FINAL SERIES

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, my name's Benjamin Norris and this is my

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll keep you up to date and in the

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<v Speaker 1>loop with contestants, actors, presenters that are currently on Australian television. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>I have actress Katrina Molosovic from the award winning series

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<v Speaker 1>Wentworth before taking on the role of Boomer. Katrina graduated

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<v Speaker 1>from Nider and has had an illustrious career in the

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<v Speaker 1>genre of theater, film and television. Katrina is probably best

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<v Speaker 1>known for her portrayal of Sue Boehmer Jenkins on Wentworth,

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<v Speaker 1>but her other television credits include Sea Change, Seven Types

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<v Speaker 1>of Ambiguity, Glitch Offspring, Winners and Losers, Neighbors, and even

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Healers, just to name a few. She was also

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<v Speaker 1>nominated for a TV week LOGI for Best New Talent

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and four for her role in the

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<v Speaker 1>TV police series Stingers. Today, we'll be talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>final series of Wentworth, The Final Sentence, which started on

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<v Speaker 1>FOXTELD this week. We'll talk about the journey Boomer has

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<v Speaker 1>been on and the way in which her character has

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<v Speaker 1>impacted the series. We have secrets from the set, stories

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<v Speaker 1>about Katrina's relationship with the other actors and what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>Bernard Curry told her one hour before he entered the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother House. This chat will no doubt warm your

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<v Speaker 1>heart and I hope you enjoy the inner workings of

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing Australian actress. So let's get started with today's guest.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to welcome Katrina Molossovic to TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this sting. I'm going to be the startup director

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<v Speaker 2>and it's cool went worths.

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<v Speaker 1>Week stil the load goes to Wentwork.

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<v Speaker 2>Spoiler alert doesn't actually take that much to look like Boomer. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Backsbaches Jenkins, and he said, are people afraid of you?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to sam Along bit to our interrogation room. There

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<v Speaker 2>was in series two there was another storyline planned for Boomer.

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<v Speaker 1>Since the very beginning went with has pride of itself

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<v Speaker 1>on telling diverse stories with diverse characters.

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<v Speaker 2>I still I can't look anteal anywhere. It just is

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<v Speaker 2>Wentworth to me that color.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, mady, You're well, I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I'm as well as can be expected given the

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<v Speaker 2>current circumstances, which you probably hear all the time. And

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<v Speaker 2>I still actually, yeah, can't get my head around the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that we are living history right now. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's given me too much time to think. Look, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, good to hear, and congratulations on the success of

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<v Speaker 1>the eighth season of Wentworth. This is pretty impressive stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's unheard of. It it's unheard of. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>it hasn't hit me. It'll probably hit me once the

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<v Speaker 2>very last episode goes to air, and oh god, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't want to be anyone in my orbit then because

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be tears, a lot of tears.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as the show finishes up, you know, you must

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<v Speaker 1>be going through a mixture of emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>I am, I was saying to someone the other day,

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<v Speaker 2>because of the pandemic and because nothing, absolutely nothing is

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<v Speaker 2>normal right now and hasn't been for almost two years.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't think it's hit me. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>the you know what's happened has hit me because everything

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<v Speaker 2>feels like it's hitting me and everyone else. So it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>hard to kind of wade through all my emotions at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment because I'm just up and down, up and down,

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<v Speaker 2>up and down all the time. So yeah, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>fair warning to anyone who's in my orbit on the

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<v Speaker 2>last episode, because maybe I'll get this burst of clarity.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh my god. It's at the moment, it just

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<v Speaker 2>feels like I'm in between seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when you finish high school. You want high

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<v Speaker 1>school to finish, and then when it does, you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but is it going to start again?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Exactly, yeah, exactly. It is that thing. I'm luweered

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<v Speaker 2>into a false security because it's not unheard of for

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<v Speaker 2>us to go a year in between series, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much to the day, almost that it's been a year,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I reckon, in the next few months, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>start getting antsy, going okay, what's up. Nothing. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>scared of Lou. I'm not scared of her. She's just

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<v Speaker 2>a big angry boy. But don't just oh man, I

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<v Speaker 2>just wish everything was different. But most of all, I

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<v Speaker 2>wish that Lou wouldn't cut me beautiful face, because then

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<v Speaker 2>I never get a root.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we go back and see how this all started?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like, how did this role come about for you?

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<v Speaker 2>So I was working with Kevin Carlin, who's a director

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<v Speaker 2>who I've worked with a lot over the years, like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, and I was working with him and he said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this thing. I'm going to be the startup director

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<v Speaker 2>and it's cool. Went worth it. I think it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to start looking at casting in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months. And I reckon, there'll be something

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<v Speaker 2>in it for you, And I said, oh, really, okay cool?

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<v Speaker 2>And then the project I think got shifted back a

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<v Speaker 2>bit for something, for whatever reason, as they do sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I in the meantime, was in between I'd just

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<v Speaker 2>done a Sydney season of a show with a play

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<v Speaker 2>with Kate Blotete for Sydney's Theater Company, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>just in the hiatus before we were to take that

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<v Speaker 2>show around Europe, and so in the meantime I hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>heard anything about Wentworth. And I got on the plane

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<v Speaker 2>to go to Europe and you know, it was doing

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<v Speaker 2>the shows all around, and I remember I was in London,

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<v Speaker 2>and because I was with a whole bunch of actors

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<v Speaker 2>from Australia, everyone's got the ear to the ground and

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<v Speaker 2>I must have heard from someone that Wentworth had started casting.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember finishing the show in London, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever time of night it was, and waiting in my

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<v Speaker 2>hotel for a decent hour to call Australia and I

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<v Speaker 2>just harassed my agent and over again and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening with this? Is this something in it? And

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<v Speaker 2>then I didn't hear anything. And then I got back

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<v Speaker 2>to Australia and pretty soon after that I got told

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<v Speaker 2>that they want to meet an audition for Boomer and

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<v Speaker 2>I read the character breakdown and it was Boomer is

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<v Speaker 2>is built like a brickshit house, not the sharpest tool

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<v Speaker 2>in the shed. Frankie's muscle and a few other things,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was sort of it, and I was like, oh, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and then keV wanted to meet with me, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I met with him and he said, look, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>When you come in, don't wear any makeup. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>make yourself taller and just do something with your hair

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<v Speaker 2>because Amanda, who's the producer, is worried that you might

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<v Speaker 2>be a bit, in her words, a bit too pretty

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<v Speaker 2>for this role. And keV apparently turned to her and said, now,

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<v Speaker 2>she'll be right. Spoiler alert spoiler alert, doesn't actually take

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<v Speaker 2>that much to look like Boomer. I'll tell you that now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's not necessarily true either, because you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen you in other shows and you actually are quite pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's something in all of us that we

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<v Speaker 1>could rough up a little bit and we could all

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<v Speaker 1>look like we were in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I don't know. I don't know, because I look

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<v Speaker 2>at some of the girls that I work with and

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<v Speaker 2>just go, no, no, not buying it. I belong in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's face it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, come, there's heaps to trust with people.

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<v Speaker 2>Name fucking one, yeah, name one fucking person who can trust.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you say that Boomer has changed over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. I think she's grown up a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think after Frankie left, she really had to try

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<v Speaker 2>to find her own identity because I think being with

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<v Speaker 2>Frankie in some ways was the most beautiful thing. In

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<v Speaker 2>other ways, I think it held her back a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>so she sort of I think she's grown up a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>She's still Boomer, but she she's had so many horrific

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<v Speaker 2>experiences over the years that it's changed her. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's softened her up a bit. And she's met

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<v Speaker 2>amazing women who have taught her. They've kind of cracked

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<v Speaker 2>her mind open a little bit to allow her to

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<v Speaker 2>explore her own potential and to allow her to see

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<v Speaker 2>herself in a more positive light. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's how she's changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that or did the writers ever make

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<v Speaker 1>Boomer do anything that you really didn't agree with?

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<v Speaker 2>They tried to. Sometimes you rang them you can't do this,

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I think they hate my guts now. I

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<v Speaker 2>was so tenacious. Look, you know, it's such a blessed

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<v Speaker 2>them because you know, they didn't have to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>me at all. But I you know, I think there

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<v Speaker 2>was just it was just such a unique experience in

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<v Speaker 2>that Boomer started off as a very much she was

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<v Speaker 2>a guest character and she you know, there wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>lot a lot there, you know, to go on. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was allowed to grow her and create her, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as well as the writer, so we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of we did it in tandem. And you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>always I think in every script you sort of go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what about this? What about that? But they were just

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<v Speaker 2>so open to me throwing ideas at them. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes there were things that I because I lived her

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<v Speaker 2>for all those years, I remembered making certain choices that

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<v Speaker 2>if I'd done some other things, it might have jarred

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<v Speaker 2>with an audience because it was completely against you know,

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<v Speaker 2>her moral compass or her moral center or how I

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<v Speaker 2>thought she might process that information. That was really tricky

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<v Speaker 2>and weird. And I'm just so grateful to have been

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<v Speaker 2>able to collaborate like that because that is unusual. And

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<v Speaker 2>my hat goes off to them for humoring me, allowing

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<v Speaker 2>me to you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you kind of I don't know. The way in

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<v Speaker 1>which I would describe it as a viewers perspective is

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably the most real character throughout all of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. For some reason, because the nuances that you

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<v Speaker 1>put into her, and you know so much of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm such a diehard fan, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to admit something to which you're going to be really

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<v Speaker 1>probably as equally in bad as embarrassed as I am

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<v Speaker 1>about this. But I was actually driving down Chapel Street

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<v Speaker 1>not that long ago, and my partner said, look, there's Boomer,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had this reaction which I've never done before,

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<v Speaker 1>like never in my life. I managed to wind the

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<v Speaker 1>window down and yell out, I love you, Boomer while

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<v Speaker 1>I was on like while We're going down Chapel Street,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, like I know you are Katrina, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you, and you just turned around and went,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yep, and you gave me the you acknowledged me

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<v Speaker 1>even though I'm as an idiot in a car.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I tell you something, I don't find that embarrassing

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<v Speaker 2>at all. What you do when you do something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you give me such a gift that I actually don't deserve.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am aware of that. I'm so aware of

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<v Speaker 2>what it costs someone to put themselves out there like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and all you're doing is something beautiful. And I'm never

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<v Speaker 2>ever ever going to judge anyone for that. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I don't deserve it, and I'm just I should.

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<v Speaker 2>I should be the one yelling at it people, I

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<v Speaker 2>love you, thank you? How you would actually?

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<v Speaker 1>Just I mean, it must be shocking to see the

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<v Speaker 1>popularity of a character like this. I mean, does that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff happen to you a lot? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't be the only one yelling at you out

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<v Speaker 1>out of a car window.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know, you know it does happens a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's funny. I think it's you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pretty sure it's because of Boomer. I know it's because

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<v Speaker 2>of Boomer in that someone was asking me the other

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<v Speaker 2>day actually how they said, Oh, I was a driver.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in a car going to work yesterday actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, oh love the show. And I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. And he said, are people afraid of you

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<v Speaker 2>or what do they do? You know? I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what they Actually I expected that. I expected people

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<v Speaker 2>to be afraid of me, like they would be if

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<v Speaker 2>they met Pam, for instance, or not Pam because Pam

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<v Speaker 2>is actually a cutey batuity, but if they meant the freak,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but because Boomer is a bit lovable and

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<v Speaker 2>really has a good heart. People. They yeah, they want

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<v Speaker 2>to smack me in the arm and give me a cuddle.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to cuddle a lot of there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of cuddle offer him, which is hard during a pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, apologize to anyone. I've sort of gone on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's never been I've never received I've never felt like

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<v Speaker 2>anyone's frightened. They just, if anything, I think they feel

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable approaching me, which I lot. I think that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always get worried that when I start talking

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<v Speaker 2>to them they'll feel let down because they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>where is she? Why isn't You're not her? You're a nerd.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a strange experience because I think, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to let the fans down, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, you aren't. You know, you aren't Boomer. You're

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<v Speaker 1>an actor, And I want to know, like, what what

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<v Speaker 1>was it that made you want to get into acting?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how did that all start for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's interesting because I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you one thing I'm going to this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to age me straight away. But when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid, I moved around a lot as a

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<v Speaker 2>kid because my dad had a building business and we

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<v Speaker 2>followed sort of the boom of building all through Queensland,

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<v Speaker 2>North Queensland, and so I was a new girl at

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of schools, and I remember I remember being

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<v Speaker 2>at one school and being in my English class and

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<v Speaker 2>we had to come up with this speech and we

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<v Speaker 2>had to do what we would consider to be the

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<v Speaker 2>most boring speech ever, and I just love that challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did a whole speech on a teapot and

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt like a start afterwards because I had

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<v Speaker 2>never felt so light, you know. I thought, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 2>something in this. And then I was in love with

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<v Speaker 2>a band called Bross that were big in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was obsessed with them because they just looked

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<v Speaker 2>like they were having so much fun at what they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing. And I used to read like I used

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<v Speaker 2>to go and get all the English music papers and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 2>read interviews and get all inspired and just wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>change the world that they maybe feel like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I thought, well, I want to help people like

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<v Speaker 2>they help with me, so I'll be a doctor. And

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<v Speaker 2>then realize, no, it's actually all the doctor shows I

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<v Speaker 2>watch that I want to be in I don't actually

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<v Speaker 2>want to do the medicine. So that's I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the chain of thought that made me want to be

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<v Speaker 2>an actor. And then I remember at fourteen sixteen reading

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<v Speaker 2>a Dolly magazine there we go and reading an article

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<v Speaker 2>about someone who'd gotten into night at some young age,

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<v Speaker 2>and I threw myself on the bed and started crying,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mom said, that's wrong. I said, I'm too old.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never do this. I was only sixteen at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's when I sort of thought, oh, okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's sort of what I need to do. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that look, I don't know, I don't just I'm an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I chose profession.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're good at it, you know. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you found that out out with the teapot in the classroom,

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<v Speaker 1>because what it was that you were responding to was

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<v Speaker 1>your innate ability to entertain an audience. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that is ultimately what makes a good actress. And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it now makes you want to tell more stories,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess outside of prisons and away from teapots, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look for other well, look for other women

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<v Speaker 1>to play you know, there's going to be all these

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<v Speaker 1>amazing characters for you to go and take on next,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is really exciting for you, but also

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<v Speaker 1>for us as an audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh do you? I hope. So that's that's the dream,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you sort of I'll have to admit, like

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<v Speaker 2>having just finished Spreadsheet yesterday, and you know I do

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<v Speaker 2>like every other actor I know, actually I go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that could be it could be the one. What can

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<v Speaker 2>I do? Now? That's okay? How can I Actually? I

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<v Speaker 2>was having a chat with Diana Glenn, who's an actress.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just the most divine human being, and she was

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<v Speaker 2>saying that with the pandemic, every artists, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not actually qualified to do anything else. So we we

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<v Speaker 2>thought we might form like a sheltered workshop and try

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<v Speaker 2>to upskill or at least try to you know, have

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<v Speaker 2>you played a midwife? Great, there we go, you can

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<v Speaker 2>do that. And you've played a plumber, fantastic, so we

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<v Speaker 2>can you can go and like, we just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how how we we can play all these parts,

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<v Speaker 2>and surely some skill must have transferred. So unfortunately that

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<v Speaker 2>just qualifies me to go to jail. I suppose, But

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<v Speaker 2>I have played other things. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The interesting thing about that is, you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>when you did your research for Boomer, I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>would have had to have gone to the women's prisons

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<v Speaker 1>and probably tried to do a bit of research that way.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit of a double barreled question to this, But

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<v Speaker 1>is that what you do for a lot of your roles.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you spend a bit of time going into prison

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<v Speaker 1>or spend a little bit of time doing whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>character is doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think yeah, if it's if it's essential to the

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<v Speaker 2>tone of the work and essential to It's interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>in Spreadsheet, I play a lawyer and I own a

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<v Speaker 2>law firm. But it was kind of it would have

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<v Speaker 2>been counter counterintuitive to have actually gone and sat in

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<v Speaker 2>the law firm, which I couldn't do anyway because of

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic. But you know, because I think essentially the

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<v Speaker 2>comedy comes from how opposite to a lawyer she actually is.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think, you know that's yeah, you pick and choose,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like to be super prepared. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so funny. I just when I met Steve Curry,

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing a play at the NTC that got

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<v Speaker 2>shut down prematurely, just not long ago, and Steve and

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<v Speaker 2>I both went under spreadsheet after that play. But when

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<v Speaker 2>I met Steve, it's so funny because we I've worked

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<v Speaker 2>with his brother for you know, five or six years,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've worked with his other brother, and we've never

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<v Speaker 2>really been in each other We've been in each other's orbit,

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<v Speaker 2>but never really known each other. And then we started

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<v Speaker 2>working on this play and he just went, she you

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<v Speaker 2>do a lot of work, don't you like? You really

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<v Speaker 2>have an approach to this sort of stuff? And so

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<v Speaker 2>does he mind you. I don't know why I was

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<v Speaker 2>picking on me. He's got his own thing that he does.

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<v Speaker 2>But he said that. He went home and said to Bernie,

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<v Speaker 2>Katrina likes to you know, she's she works. And apparently

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<v Speaker 2>Bernie said, yes, she's thorough. And I said to Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, They've got their own, you know, way

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<v Speaker 2>of working. I'm just a nerd. I am a nerd.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm a nerd, so I probably do more

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<v Speaker 2>than I have to. But I just love it so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Research is actually my favorite bit of you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>work that we do. I just love it. I love

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<v Speaker 2>tearing something to bits and try and understand why And.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about Bernard going into Big Brother?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you speak to him before he went in.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually spoke to him an hour before he went in.

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<v Speaker 2>It just makes me laugh. It just makes me laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Bless Bernie. He's a braver man than I. And he

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<v Speaker 2>what he said to me was, I just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to I don't want to embarrass my family. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to make them proud. And I said, Bernie,

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<v Speaker 2>you will done, and you'll make them proud. You know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if anyone could do it from our Wentworth glass, it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be Bernie.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you ever do something like this? Would you ever

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<v Speaker 1>go into Big Brother?

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather lick my way to the center of

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<v Speaker 2>the universe than have I'm such an introvert. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>hangle it. I couldn't. I could not handle it. And

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<v Speaker 2>then being voted in or voted out. No, I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>insecure it would kill me. It would kill me. I

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<v Speaker 2>would be in therapy forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, you know from experience, I reckon that

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother is like prison, so I reckon they're quite similar.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think you're right. How long were you in

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<v Speaker 2>there for?

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<v Speaker 1>I did eighty seven days?

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<v Speaker 2>You wanted I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, eighty seven days, so I was in there for

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<v Speaker 1>nearly three months.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it mess with your hair?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm nuts you can tell from talking to me, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you're before you went in or pretty much pretty much? Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's an interesting experience. But anyway, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anyone wants to hear about me being on

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother. But you know what was interesting about you

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<v Speaker 1>doing that research though? For your roles? I was wondering

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<v Speaker 1>because Boomers had have started small and she sort of

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<v Speaker 1>grew as the series went on. Did you add some

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<v Speaker 1>of those signature things yourself into the series, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Monte Carlo or the love of Brendan for Vola and

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<v Speaker 1>imagine you're someway An nice like at a day spar

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<v Speaker 1>with your boyfriend Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean boy trained dumpy, So I wouldn't be at

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<v Speaker 2>a day spar with you? Okay? Is there anyone else

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<v Speaker 2>you'd find? High there? Ul So get naked with Fair,

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<v Speaker 2>they go Fair. Imagine you're on a date with Fair,

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<v Speaker 2>close your eyes and let Fair pampa.

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<v Speaker 1>You were some of those things that were added in?

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<v Speaker 1>Were they from you? Or were they from the writers?

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<v Speaker 2>For Vola and Monte Carlo's were definitely the writers. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so take that Brendan for Vola. It's not me that

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<v Speaker 2>was lest after you. It was Boomer and the writers.

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<v Speaker 2>The scratching and the nose picking was me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just talking to someone else and the I

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<v Speaker 2>will say that there was in series two there was

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<v Speaker 2>another storyline planned for Boomer that had to had to

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<v Speaker 2>not go ahead. They didn't want to go ahead of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had found something else to replace it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, oh, I've got an idea. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>said to Marcia, who's the script producer. I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I've got an idea. What about if Boomer

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<v Speaker 2>falls in love with the characters Maxine. What if Boomer

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<v Speaker 2>falls in love with the man that Maxine was and

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<v Speaker 2>they find their way towards each other and she went,

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. And then after that, like so that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of kicked off their friendship, and then the writers

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<v Speaker 2>brought in the idea that she wanted to have a baby,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that just continued the whole way through. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's real collaboration, which is great, which is heard of.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing actually working in the set of a prison though.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering whether or not that made you think

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<v Speaker 1>about what you'd take into prison, like you as a person,

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<v Speaker 1>what would what would could Trina take into prison with it?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you take anything?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know a lawyer a lawyer, No, you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, you can take yourself from the new TV

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<v Speaker 1>show you're doing as a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I want? I don't know about that elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Has there ever been anything in your life that you've

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<v Speaker 1>looked back and thought, gee, I could have landed up

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<v Speaker 1>in the slammer myself?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably. I mean I'm pretty straight laced. I have to say,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a bit of a goody two shoes, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You've never.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing I learned. Here's the thing I

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<v Speaker 2>learned for a lot of women who ended up who've

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<v Speaker 2>ended up in that situation, any one of us could

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<v Speaker 2>have landed there, you know, just just making a different choice,

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<v Speaker 2>making mistake, a small mistake. You know, things can take

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<v Speaker 2>on a life of their own, and often the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that really hit home was to that what they call criminality.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not black and white, it's not easily defined, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not easily you only have to dig a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>to see why why these things happen, and often society

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<v Speaker 2>itself is to blame and the system is to blame,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, there's a whole heap of things that

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<v Speaker 2>contribute that is not the fault of the person who's

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<v Speaker 2>ended up paying the price. So yeah, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>tricky area. Yeah, it terrifies me. It's actually talking about research.

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<v Speaker 2>We met a whole lot of women who've just come

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<v Speaker 2>out of jail. I actually, after talking to them for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of hours, walked outside and promptly had a

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<v Speaker 2>paynic attack that I don't want to go to jail.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't want who. I'm scared like, it's some terrifying,

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<v Speaker 2>terrifying I.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess that's the other thing is the friendships that you

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<v Speaker 1>must have made working with the other actresses, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and the similar experience that you've all had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doing that research and finding out what it's like and

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<v Speaker 1>then creating your own characters must have enforced this friendship

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the other actresses. I mean, who have

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<v Speaker 1>you walked away with as a lifelong friend have you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure lots of them, but like, who are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the closer actresses that you've walked away with?

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, definitely Celia Ireland most definitely she Yeah, she's like

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<v Speaker 2>a sister or a mum or I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>just love her. Gosh, who else Kate Box?

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<v Speaker 1>How good is that seen in episode two of the

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<v Speaker 1>last season with Kate Box doing that crying and the

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<v Speaker 1>snot coming out of her nose? Have you seen it?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you have, but episode two of

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<v Speaker 1>the new series just some of the best acting I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Extraordinary and Celia too, They're both, yeah, two of my

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<v Speaker 2>all time favorite Australian actresses. I just could watch them

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<v Speaker 2>until the cows come home, and to work with them

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<v Speaker 2>is just it's a dream, an absolute dream. They're amazed.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get to pinch anything from the set? You

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<v Speaker 1>know on Friends when they finished them? You know, Courtney

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<v Speaker 1>Cocks managed to steal the clock or something. Were you

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<v Speaker 1>able to steal anything that you could keep as a memento?

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<v Speaker 2>What did I steal? I think I might have nabbed

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<v Speaker 2>a panic button. And I've got my teals. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>my but I can't look at them. I've had to

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<v Speaker 2>put them away in a cupboard because I steal. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't look a teal anywhere in a shop. Anywhere without

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<v Speaker 2>going what amazing branding? Because honestly, it just is went

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<v Speaker 2>Worth to me, that color, and so you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to just deliberately not look at it for

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<v Speaker 2>a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Until I Katrina, I tried to wear some teal for today,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not real teal. It's green. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Did do a double take. I thought that looks like

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<v Speaker 2>a hood. No, it's but that combined with that streak

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<v Speaker 2>of blue behind you, that blue behind you is very

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<v Speaker 2>close and it's messing with my head.

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<v Speaker 1>Without giving too much away, what can you say is

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<v Speaker 1>in store for Boomer for the final series?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot? I think Boomer is faced with some faced

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<v Speaker 2>with some choices, and I'll just tell you that she

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<v Speaker 2>chooses to be happy, and I'll let you discover whether

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<v Speaker 2>that works for her or not.

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<v Speaker 1>If Boomer could have one more moment with a former character,

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<v Speaker 1>dead or alive, who do you think Boomer would choose?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think it would probably be Lee's, just to

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<v Speaker 2>see if she's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my questions, and I always ask my guests

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<v Speaker 1>before they go, it's the last question, is what's an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing story from behind the scenes of Wentworth that we

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<v Speaker 1>as an audience might not have seen.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you that that behind the scenes, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, we talk a lot about being

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<v Speaker 2>like a big family, and you know most productions do,

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<v Speaker 2>but this like for reals, you know, you do a

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 2>show for that long, at that intensity and with that

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.880
<v Speaker 2>sort of object matter, and over that amount of time,

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 2>we watched each other grow and change and grief and

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 2>love and you know, have babies and all sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We just watched each other grow up. And you actually,

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at us, especially the four of us

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<v Speaker 2>who're you know that we're there from the beginning week.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see us age as well, and that is extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, it's see. I don't know that that will

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<v Speaker 2>come as a shock to anyone, but just just just

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<v Speaker 2>that it really is a family.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, can I just say, Trina, you, my friend, have

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<v Speaker 1>just blown us away. I can't wait to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>watch you tell stories through the lens of other women

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<v Speaker 1>or as a cat or as a mouse. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't wait to watch and see what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll always be in your audience. So thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very very kind. That's going to make me tear.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you