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Speaker 1: loop with contestants, actors, presenters that are currently on Australian television. Today,
Speaker 1: I have actress Katrina Molosovic from the award winning series
Speaker 1: Wentworth before taking on the role of Boomer. Katrina graduated
Speaker 1: from Nider and has had an illustrious career in the
Speaker 1: genre of theater, film and television. Katrina is probably best
Speaker 1: known for her portrayal of Sue Boehmer Jenkins on Wentworth,
Speaker 1: but her other television credits include Sea Change, Seven Types
Speaker 1: of Ambiguity, Glitch Offspring, Winners and Losers, Neighbors, and even
Speaker 1: Blue Healers, just to name a few. She was also
Speaker 1: nominated for a TV week LOGI for Best New Talent
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four for her role in the
Speaker 1: TV police series Stingers. Today, we'll be talking about the
Speaker 1: final series of Wentworth, The Final Sentence, which started on
Speaker 1: FOXTELD this week. We'll talk about the journey Boomer has
Speaker 1: been on and the way in which her character has
Speaker 1: impacted the series. We have secrets from the set, stories
Speaker 1: about Katrina's relationship with the other actors and what exactly
Speaker 1: Bernard Curry told her one hour before he entered the
Speaker 1: Big Brother House. This chat will no doubt warm your
Speaker 1: heart and I hope you enjoy the inner workings of
Speaker 1: an amazing Australian actress. So let's get started with today's guest.
Speaker 1: I'd like to welcome Katrina Molossovic to TV Reload.
Speaker 2: There's this sting. I'm going to be the startup director
Speaker 2: and it's cool went worths.
Speaker 1: Week stil the load goes to Wentwork.
Speaker 2: Spoiler alert doesn't actually take that much to look like Boomer. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm Backsbaches Jenkins, and he said, are people afraid of you?
Speaker 2: Welcome to sam Along bit to our interrogation room. There
Speaker 2: was in series two there was another storyline planned for Boomer.
Speaker 1: Since the very beginning went with has pride of itself
Speaker 1: on telling diverse stories with diverse characters.
Speaker 2: I still I can't look anteal anywhere. It just is
Speaker 2: Wentworth to me that color.
Speaker 1: How are you, mady, You're well, I am.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm as well as can be expected given the
Speaker 2: current circumstances, which you probably hear all the time. And
Speaker 2: I still actually, yeah, can't get my head around the
Speaker 2: fact that we are living history right now. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's given me too much time to think. Look, I'm okay.
Speaker 1: Well, good to hear, and congratulations on the success of
Speaker 1: the eighth season of Wentworth. This is pretty impressive stuff.
Speaker 2: I know, it's unheard of. It it's unheard of. Oh man,
Speaker 2: it hasn't hit me. It'll probably hit me once the
Speaker 2: very last episode goes to air, and oh god, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to be anyone in my orbit then because
Speaker 2: there'll be tears, a lot of tears.
Speaker 1: Well, as the show finishes up, you know, you must
Speaker 1: be going through a mixture of emotions.
Speaker 2: I am, I was saying to someone the other day,
Speaker 2: because of the pandemic and because nothing, absolutely nothing is
Speaker 2: normal right now and hasn't been for almost two years.
Speaker 2: I actually don't think it's hit me. I don't think
Speaker 2: the you know what's happened has hit me because everything
Speaker 2: feels like it's hitting me and everyone else. So it's yeah,
Speaker 2: hard to kind of wade through all my emotions at
Speaker 2: the moment because I'm just up and down, up and down,
Speaker 2: up and down all the time. So yeah, that's that's
Speaker 2: fair warning to anyone who's in my orbit on the
Speaker 2: last episode, because maybe I'll get this burst of clarity.
Speaker 2: Oh oh my god. It's at the moment, it just
Speaker 2: feels like I'm in between seasons.
Speaker 1: It's like when you finish high school. You want high
Speaker 1: school to finish, and then when it does, you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: but is it going to start again?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly, yeah, exactly. It is that thing. I'm luweered
Speaker 2: into a false security because it's not unheard of for
Speaker 2: us to go a year in between series, and that's
Speaker 2: pretty much to the day, almost that it's been a year,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I reckon, in the next few months, I'll
Speaker 2: start getting antsy, going okay, what's up. Nothing. I'm not
Speaker 2: scared of Lou. I'm not scared of her. She's just
Speaker 2: a big angry boy. But don't just oh man, I
Speaker 2: just wish everything was different. But most of all, I
Speaker 2: wish that Lou wouldn't cut me beautiful face, because then
Speaker 2: I never get a root.
Speaker 1: Can we go back and see how this all started?
Speaker 1: You know, like, how did this role come about for you?
Speaker 2: So I was working with Kevin Carlin, who's a director
Speaker 2: who I've worked with a lot over the years, like
Speaker 2: a lot, and I was working with him and he said, look,
Speaker 2: there's this thing. I'm going to be the startup director
Speaker 2: and it's cool. Went worth it. I think it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: I think we're going to start looking at casting in
Speaker 2: a couple of months. And I reckon, there'll be something
Speaker 2: in it for you, And I said, oh, really, okay cool?
Speaker 2: And then the project I think got shifted back a
Speaker 2: bit for something, for whatever reason, as they do sometimes,
Speaker 2: and I in the meantime, was in between I'd just
Speaker 2: done a Sydney season of a show with a play
Speaker 2: with Kate Blotete for Sydney's Theater Company, and I was
Speaker 2: just in the hiatus before we were to take that
Speaker 2: show around Europe, and so in the meantime I hadn't
Speaker 2: heard anything about Wentworth. And I got on the plane
Speaker 2: to go to Europe and you know, it was doing
Speaker 2: the shows all around, and I remember I was in London,
Speaker 2: and because I was with a whole bunch of actors
Speaker 2: from Australia, everyone's got the ear to the ground and
Speaker 2: I must have heard from someone that Wentworth had started casting.
Speaker 2: And I remember finishing the show in London, you know,
Speaker 2: whatever time of night it was, and waiting in my
Speaker 2: hotel for a decent hour to call Australia and I
Speaker 2: just harassed my agent and over again and said, you know,
Speaker 2: what's happening with this? Is this something in it? And
Speaker 2: then I didn't hear anything. And then I got back
Speaker 2: to Australia and pretty soon after that I got told
Speaker 2: that they want to meet an audition for Boomer and
Speaker 2: I read the character breakdown and it was Boomer is
Speaker 2: is built like a brickshit house, not the sharpest tool
Speaker 2: in the shed. Frankie's muscle and a few other things,
Speaker 2: and that was sort of it, and I was like, oh, well, okay,
Speaker 2: and then keV wanted to meet with me, and so
Speaker 2: I met with him and he said, look, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: When you come in, don't wear any makeup. Can you
Speaker 2: make yourself taller and just do something with your hair
Speaker 2: because Amanda, who's the producer, is worried that you might
Speaker 2: be a bit, in her words, a bit too pretty
Speaker 2: for this role. And keV apparently turned to her and said, now,
Speaker 2: she'll be right. Spoiler alert spoiler alert, doesn't actually take
Speaker 2: that much to look like Boomer. I'll tell you that now.
Speaker 1: Well that's not necessarily true either, because you know, I've
Speaker 1: seen you in other shows and you actually are quite pretty.
Speaker 2: Nah.
Speaker 1: I think there's something in all of us that we
Speaker 1: could rough up a little bit and we could all
Speaker 1: look like we were in prison.
Speaker 2: Well I don't know. I don't know, because I look
Speaker 2: at some of the girls that I work with and
Speaker 2: just go, no, no, not buying it. I belong in prison.
Speaker 2: Let's face it.
Speaker 1: Oh, come, there's heaps to trust with people.
Speaker 2: Name fucking one, yeah, name one fucking person who can trust.
Speaker 1: How would you say that Boomer has changed over the years.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I think she's grown up a lot.
Speaker 2: I think after Frankie left, she really had to try
Speaker 2: to find her own identity because I think being with
Speaker 2: Frankie in some ways was the most beautiful thing. In
Speaker 2: other ways, I think it held her back a bit,
Speaker 2: so she sort of I think she's grown up a bit.
Speaker 2: She's still Boomer, but she she's had so many horrific
Speaker 2: experiences over the years that it's changed her. And I
Speaker 2: think it's softened her up a bit. And she's met
Speaker 2: amazing women who have taught her. They've kind of cracked
Speaker 2: her mind open a little bit to allow her to
Speaker 2: explore her own potential and to allow her to see
Speaker 2: herself in a more positive light. But yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that's how she's changed.
Speaker 1: Do you think that or did the writers ever make
Speaker 1: Boomer do anything that you really didn't agree with?
Speaker 2: They tried to. Sometimes you rang them you can't do this,
Speaker 2: I did. I think they hate my guts now. I
Speaker 2: was so tenacious. Look, you know, it's such a blessed
Speaker 2: them because you know, they didn't have to listen to
Speaker 2: me at all. But I you know, I think there
Speaker 2: was just it was just such a unique experience in
Speaker 2: that Boomer started off as a very much she was
Speaker 2: a guest character and she you know, there wasn't a
Speaker 2: lot a lot there, you know, to go on. But
Speaker 2: I was allowed to grow her and create her, and
Speaker 2: you know, as well as the writer, so we kind
Speaker 2: of we did it in tandem. And you know, there's
Speaker 2: always I think in every script you sort of go, oh,
Speaker 2: what about this? What about that? But they were just
Speaker 2: so open to me throwing ideas at them. And yeah,
Speaker 2: sometimes there were things that I because I lived her
Speaker 2: for all those years, I remembered making certain choices that
Speaker 2: if I'd done some other things, it might have jarred
Speaker 2: with an audience because it was completely against you know,
Speaker 2: her moral compass or her moral center or how I
Speaker 2: thought she might process that information. That was really tricky
Speaker 2: and weird. And I'm just so grateful to have been
Speaker 2: able to collaborate like that because that is unusual. And
Speaker 2: my hat goes off to them for humoring me, allowing
Speaker 2: me to you know.
Speaker 1: Well you kind of I don't know. The way in
Speaker 1: which I would describe it as a viewers perspective is
Speaker 1: it was probably the most real character throughout all of
Speaker 1: the show. For some reason, because the nuances that you
Speaker 1: put into her, and you know so much of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm such a diehard fan, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to admit something to which you're going to be really
Speaker 1: probably as equally in bad as embarrassed as I am
Speaker 1: about this. But I was actually driving down Chapel Street
Speaker 1: not that long ago, and my partner said, look, there's Boomer,
Speaker 1: and I had this reaction which I've never done before,
Speaker 1: like never in my life. I managed to wind the
Speaker 1: window down and yell out, I love you, Boomer while
Speaker 1: I was on like while We're going down Chapel Street,
Speaker 1: and you know, like I know you are Katrina, like
Speaker 1: I don't know you, and you just turned around and went,
Speaker 1: oh yep, and you gave me the you acknowledged me
Speaker 1: even though I'm as an idiot in a car.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you something, I don't find that embarrassing
Speaker 2: at all. What you do when you do something like that,
Speaker 2: you give me such a gift that I actually don't deserve.
Speaker 2: And I am aware of that. I'm so aware of
Speaker 2: what it costs someone to put themselves out there like that,
Speaker 2: and all you're doing is something beautiful. And I'm never
Speaker 2: ever ever going to judge anyone for that. In fact,
Speaker 2: I know I don't deserve it, and I'm just I should.
Speaker 2: I should be the one yelling at it people, I
Speaker 2: love you, thank you? How you would actually?
Speaker 1: Just I mean, it must be shocking to see the
Speaker 1: popularity of a character like this. I mean, does that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff happen to you a lot? I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't be the only one yelling at you out
Speaker 1: out of a car window.
Speaker 2: No, you know, you know it does happens a lot,
Speaker 2: and it's funny. I think it's you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure it's because of Boomer. I know it's because
Speaker 2: of Boomer in that someone was asking me the other
Speaker 2: day actually how they said, Oh, I was a driver.
Speaker 2: I was in a car going to work yesterday actually,
Speaker 2: and he said, oh love the show. And I said, oh,
Speaker 2: thank you. And he said, are people afraid of you
Speaker 2: or what do they do? You know? I said, you
Speaker 2: know what they Actually I expected that. I expected people
Speaker 2: to be afraid of me, like they would be if
Speaker 2: they met Pam, for instance, or not Pam because Pam
Speaker 2: is actually a cutey batuity, but if they meant the freak,
Speaker 2: you know, but because Boomer is a bit lovable and
Speaker 2: really has a good heart. People. They yeah, they want
Speaker 2: to smack me in the arm and give me a cuddle.
Speaker 2: They want to cuddle a lot of there's a lot
Speaker 2: of cuddle offer him, which is hard during a pandemic.
Speaker 2: And you know, apologize to anyone. I've sort of gone on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's never been I've never received I've never felt like
Speaker 2: anyone's frightened. They just, if anything, I think they feel
Speaker 2: comfortable approaching me, which I lot. I think that's amazing.
Speaker 2: And I always get worried that when I start talking
Speaker 2: to them they'll feel let down because they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: where is she? Why isn't You're not her? You're a nerd.
Speaker 1: It's a strange experience because I think, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't want to let the fans down, but at the
Speaker 1: same time, you aren't. You know, you aren't Boomer. You're
Speaker 1: an actor, And I want to know, like, what what
Speaker 1: was it that made you want to get into acting?
Speaker 1: You know, how did that all start for you?
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting because I really don't know.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I can tell you one thing I'm going to this
Speaker 2: is going to age me straight away. But when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, I moved around a lot as a
Speaker 2: kid because my dad had a building business and we
Speaker 2: followed sort of the boom of building all through Queensland,
Speaker 2: North Queensland, and so I was a new girl at
Speaker 2: a lot of schools, and I remember I remember being
Speaker 2: at one school and being in my English class and
Speaker 2: we had to come up with this speech and we
Speaker 2: had to do what we would consider to be the
Speaker 2: most boring speech ever, and I just love that challenge.
Speaker 2: And I did a whole speech on a teapot and
Speaker 2: I just felt like a start afterwards because I had
Speaker 2: never felt so light, you know. I thought, oh, there's
Speaker 2: something in this. And then I was in love with
Speaker 2: a band called Bross that were big in the eighties.
Speaker 2: But I was obsessed with them because they just looked
Speaker 2: like they were having so much fun at what they
Speaker 2: were doing. And I used to read like I used
Speaker 2: to go and get all the English music papers and whatnot,
Speaker 2: read interviews and get all inspired and just wanted to
Speaker 2: change the world that they maybe feel like that. And
Speaker 2: then I thought, well, I want to help people like
Speaker 2: they help with me, so I'll be a doctor. And
Speaker 2: then realize, no, it's actually all the doctor shows I
Speaker 2: watch that I want to be in I don't actually
Speaker 2: want to do the medicine. So that's I think that's
Speaker 2: the chain of thought that made me want to be
Speaker 2: an actor. And then I remember at fourteen sixteen reading
Speaker 2: a Dolly magazine there we go and reading an article
Speaker 2: about someone who'd gotten into night at some young age,
Speaker 2: and I threw myself on the bed and started crying,
Speaker 2: and Mom said, that's wrong. I said, I'm too old.
Speaker 2: I'll never do this. I was only sixteen at the time,
Speaker 2: but that's when I sort of thought, oh, okay, maybe
Speaker 2: that's sort of what I need to do. And yeah,
Speaker 2: that look, I don't know, I don't just I'm an idiot.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I chose profession.
Speaker 1: Because you're good at it, you know. I think that
Speaker 1: you found that out out with the teapot in the classroom,
Speaker 1: because what it was that you were responding to was
Speaker 1: your innate ability to entertain an audience. And I think
Speaker 1: that that is ultimately what makes a good actress. And
Speaker 1: I guess it now makes you want to tell more stories,
Speaker 1: I guess outside of prisons and away from teapots, and
Speaker 1: you know, look for other well, look for other women
Speaker 1: to play you know, there's going to be all these
Speaker 1: amazing characters for you to go and take on next,
Speaker 1: which I think is really exciting for you, but also
Speaker 1: for us as an audience.
Speaker 2: Oh do you? I hope. So that's that's the dream,
Speaker 2: you know, you sort of I'll have to admit, like
Speaker 2: having just finished Spreadsheet yesterday, and you know I do
Speaker 2: like every other actor I know, actually I go, well,
Speaker 2: that could be it could be the one. What can
Speaker 2: I do? Now? That's okay? How can I Actually? I
Speaker 2: was having a chat with Diana Glenn, who's an actress.
Speaker 2: She's just the most divine human being, and she was
Speaker 2: saying that with the pandemic, every artists, you know, we're
Speaker 2: not actually qualified to do anything else. So we we
Speaker 2: thought we might form like a sheltered workshop and try
Speaker 2: to upskill or at least try to you know, have
Speaker 2: you played a midwife? Great, there we go, you can
Speaker 2: do that. And you've played a plumber, fantastic, so we
Speaker 2: can you can go and like, we just I don't
Speaker 2: know how how we we can play all these parts,
Speaker 2: and surely some skill must have transferred. So unfortunately that
Speaker 2: just qualifies me to go to jail. I suppose, But
Speaker 2: I have played other things. I don't know.
Speaker 1: The interesting thing about that is, you know, I guess
Speaker 1: when you did your research for Boomer, I guess you
Speaker 1: would have had to have gone to the women's prisons
Speaker 1: and probably tried to do a bit of research that way.
Speaker 1: A bit of a double barreled question to this, But
Speaker 1: is that what you do for a lot of your roles.
Speaker 1: Will you spend a bit of time going into prison
Speaker 1: or spend a little bit of time doing whatever the
Speaker 1: character is doing.
Speaker 2: I think yeah, if it's if it's essential to the
Speaker 2: tone of the work and essential to It's interesting because
Speaker 2: in Spreadsheet, I play a lawyer and I own a
Speaker 2: law firm. But it was kind of it would have
Speaker 2: been counter counterintuitive to have actually gone and sat in
Speaker 2: the law firm, which I couldn't do anyway because of
Speaker 2: the pandemic. But you know, because I think essentially the
Speaker 2: comedy comes from how opposite to a lawyer she actually is.
Speaker 2: So I think, you know that's yeah, you pick and choose,
Speaker 2: but I like to be super prepared. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's so funny. I just when I met Steve Curry,
Speaker 2: I was doing a play at the NTC that got
Speaker 2: shut down prematurely, just not long ago, and Steve and
Speaker 2: I both went under spreadsheet after that play. But when
Speaker 2: I met Steve, it's so funny because we I've worked
Speaker 2: with his brother for you know, five or six years,
Speaker 2: and I've worked with his other brother, and we've never
Speaker 2: really been in each other We've been in each other's orbit,
Speaker 2: but never really known each other. And then we started
Speaker 2: working on this play and he just went, she you
Speaker 2: do a lot of work, don't you like? You really
Speaker 2: have an approach to this sort of stuff? And so
Speaker 2: does he mind you. I don't know why I was
Speaker 2: picking on me. He's got his own thing that he does.
Speaker 2: But he said that. He went home and said to Bernie,
Speaker 2: Katrina likes to you know, she's she works. And apparently
Speaker 2: Bernie said, yes, she's thorough. And I said to Steve,
Speaker 2: like I said, They've got their own, you know, way
Speaker 2: of working. I'm just a nerd. I am a nerd.
Speaker 2: I know I'm a nerd, so I probably do more
Speaker 2: than I have to. But I just love it so much.
Speaker 2: Research is actually my favorite bit of you know, the
Speaker 2: work that we do. I just love it. I love
Speaker 2: tearing something to bits and try and understand why And.
Speaker 1: What do you think about Bernard going into Big Brother?
Speaker 1: Did you speak to him before he went in.
Speaker 2: I actually spoke to him an hour before he went in.
Speaker 2: It just makes me laugh. It just makes me laugh.
Speaker 2: Bless Bernie. He's a braver man than I. And he
Speaker 2: what he said to me was, I just I don't
Speaker 2: want to I don't want to embarrass my family. I
Speaker 2: just want to make them proud. And I said, Bernie,
Speaker 2: you will done, and you'll make them proud. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if anyone could do it from our Wentworth glass, it'd
Speaker 2: be Bernie.
Speaker 1: Would you ever do something like this? Would you ever
Speaker 1: go into Big Brother?
Speaker 2: I would rather lick my way to the center of
Speaker 2: the universe than have I'm such an introvert. I couldn't
Speaker 2: hangle it. I couldn't. I could not handle it. And
Speaker 2: then being voted in or voted out. No, I'm so
Speaker 2: insecure it would kill me. It would kill me. I
Speaker 2: would be in therapy forever.
Speaker 1: I think that, you know from experience, I reckon that
Speaker 1: Big Brother is like prison, so I reckon they're quite similar.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think you're right. How long were you in
Speaker 2: there for?
Speaker 1: I did eighty seven days?
Speaker 2: You wanted I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eighty seven days, so I was in there for
Speaker 1: nearly three months.
Speaker 2: Did it mess with your hair?
Speaker 1: I'm nuts you can tell from talking to me, but
Speaker 1: when you're before you went in or pretty much pretty much? Look,
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting experience. But anyway, but I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone wants to hear about me being on
Speaker 1: Big Brother. But you know what was interesting about you
Speaker 1: doing that research though? For your roles? I was wondering
Speaker 1: because Boomers had have started small and she sort of
Speaker 1: grew as the series went on. Did you add some
Speaker 1: of those signature things yourself into the series, like the
Speaker 1: Monte Carlo or the love of Brendan for Vola and
Speaker 1: imagine you're someway An nice like at a day spar
Speaker 1: with your boyfriend Now.
Speaker 2: I mean boy trained dumpy, So I wouldn't be at
Speaker 2: a day spar with you? Okay? Is there anyone else
Speaker 2: you'd find? High there? Ul So get naked with Fair,
Speaker 2: they go Fair. Imagine you're on a date with Fair,
Speaker 2: close your eyes and let Fair pampa.
Speaker 1: You were some of those things that were added in?
Speaker 1: Were they from you? Or were they from the writers?
Speaker 2: For Vola and Monte Carlo's were definitely the writers. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: so take that Brendan for Vola. It's not me that
Speaker 2: was lest after you. It was Boomer and the writers.
Speaker 2: The scratching and the nose picking was me, you know,
Speaker 2: I was just talking to someone else and the I
Speaker 2: will say that there was in series two there was
Speaker 2: another storyline planned for Boomer that had to had to
Speaker 2: not go ahead. They didn't want to go ahead of it,
Speaker 2: and they had found something else to replace it. And
Speaker 2: I said, oh, I've got an idea. And then I
Speaker 2: said to Marcia, who's the script producer. I said, oh,
Speaker 2: all right, I've got an idea. What about if Boomer
Speaker 2: falls in love with the characters Maxine. What if Boomer
Speaker 2: falls in love with the man that Maxine was and
Speaker 2: they find their way towards each other and she went,
Speaker 2: I love it. And then after that, like so that
Speaker 2: sort of kicked off their friendship, and then the writers
Speaker 2: brought in the idea that she wanted to have a baby,
Speaker 2: and then that just continued the whole way through. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's real collaboration, which is great, which is heard of.
Speaker 1: It's amazing actually working in the set of a prison though.
Speaker 1: I was wondering whether or not that made you think
Speaker 1: about what you'd take into prison, like you as a person,
Speaker 1: what would what would could Trina take into prison with it?
Speaker 1: Can you take anything?
Speaker 2: I don't even know a lawyer a lawyer, No, you can't.
Speaker 1: Not really, you can take yourself from the new TV
Speaker 1: show you're doing as a lawyer.
Speaker 2: Do I want? I don't know about that elsewhere.
Speaker 1: Has there ever been anything in your life that you've
Speaker 1: looked back and thought, gee, I could have landed up
Speaker 1: in the slammer myself?
Speaker 2: Probably. I mean I'm pretty straight laced. I have to say,
Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a goody two shoes, and.
Speaker 1: You've never.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing I learned. Here's the thing I
Speaker 2: learned for a lot of women who ended up who've
Speaker 2: ended up in that situation, any one of us could
Speaker 2: have landed there, you know, just just making a different choice,
Speaker 2: making mistake, a small mistake. You know, things can take
Speaker 2: on a life of their own, and often the thing
Speaker 2: that really hit home was to that what they call criminality.
Speaker 2: It's not black and white, it's not easily defined, it's
Speaker 2: not easily you only have to dig a little bit
Speaker 2: to see why why these things happen, and often society
Speaker 2: itself is to blame and the system is to blame,
Speaker 2: and you know, there's a whole heap of things that
Speaker 2: contribute that is not the fault of the person who's
Speaker 2: ended up paying the price. So yeah, it's it's a
Speaker 2: tricky area. Yeah, it terrifies me. It's actually talking about research.
Speaker 2: We met a whole lot of women who've just come
Speaker 2: out of jail. I actually, after talking to them for
Speaker 2: a couple of hours, walked outside and promptly had a
Speaker 2: paynic attack that I don't want to go to jail.
Speaker 2: I just don't want who. I'm scared like, it's some terrifying,
Speaker 2: terrifying I.
Speaker 1: Guess that's the other thing is the friendships that you
Speaker 1: must have made working with the other actresses, you know,
Speaker 1: and the similar experience that you've all had, you know,
Speaker 1: doing that research and finding out what it's like and
Speaker 1: then creating your own characters must have enforced this friendship
Speaker 1: with some of the other actresses. I mean, who have
Speaker 1: you walked away with as a lifelong friend have you?
Speaker 1: I'm sure lots of them, but like, who are some
Speaker 1: of the closer actresses that you've walked away with?
Speaker 2: Gosh, definitely Celia Ireland most definitely she Yeah, she's like
Speaker 2: a sister or a mum or I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just love her. Gosh, who else Kate Box?
Speaker 1: How good is that seen in episode two of the
Speaker 1: last season with Kate Box doing that crying and the
Speaker 1: snot coming out of her nose? Have you seen it?
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have, but episode two of
Speaker 1: the new series just some of the best acting I've
Speaker 1: ever seen.
Speaker 2: Extraordinary and Celia too, They're both, yeah, two of my
Speaker 2: all time favorite Australian actresses. I just could watch them
Speaker 2: until the cows come home, and to work with them
Speaker 2: is just it's a dream, an absolute dream. They're amazed.
Speaker 1: Did you get to pinch anything from the set? You
Speaker 1: know on Friends when they finished them? You know, Courtney
Speaker 1: Cocks managed to steal the clock or something. Were you
Speaker 1: able to steal anything that you could keep as a memento?
Speaker 2: What did I steal? I think I might have nabbed
Speaker 2: a panic button. And I've got my teals. I've got
Speaker 2: my but I can't look at them. I've had to
Speaker 2: put them away in a cupboard because I steal. I
Speaker 2: can't look a teal anywhere in a shop. Anywhere without
Speaker 2: going what amazing branding? Because honestly, it just is went
Speaker 2: Worth to me, that color, and so you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I have to just deliberately not look at it for
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 1: Until I Katrina, I tried to wear some teal for today,
Speaker 1: but it's not real teal. It's green. I was like,
Speaker 1: But anyway, I.
Speaker 2: Did do a double take. I thought that looks like
Speaker 2: a hood. No, it's but that combined with that streak
Speaker 2: of blue behind you, that blue behind you is very
Speaker 2: close and it's messing with my head.
Speaker 1: Without giving too much away, what can you say is
Speaker 1: in store for Boomer for the final series?
Speaker 2: A lot? I think Boomer is faced with some faced
Speaker 2: with some choices, and I'll just tell you that she
Speaker 2: chooses to be happy, and I'll let you discover whether
Speaker 2: that works for her or not.
Speaker 1: If Boomer could have one more moment with a former character,
Speaker 1: dead or alive, who do you think Boomer would choose?
Speaker 2: I actually think it would probably be Lee's, just to
Speaker 2: see if she's okay.
Speaker 1: One of my questions, and I always ask my guests
Speaker 1: before they go, it's the last question, is what's an
Speaker 1: amazing story from behind the scenes of Wentworth that we
Speaker 1: as an audience might not have seen.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that that behind the scenes, and
Speaker 2: I think, you know, we talk a lot about being
Speaker 2: like a big family, and you know most productions do,
Speaker 2: but this like for reals, you know, you do a
Speaker 2: show for that long, at that intensity and with that
Speaker 2: sort of object matter, and over that amount of time,
Speaker 2: we watched each other grow and change and grief and
Speaker 2: love and you know, have babies and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 2: We just watched each other grow up. And you actually,
Speaker 2: when you look at us, especially the four of us
Speaker 2: who're you know that we're there from the beginning week.
Speaker 2: You can see us age as well, and that is extraordinary.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's see. I don't know that that will
Speaker 2: come as a shock to anyone, but just just just
Speaker 2: that it really is a family.
Speaker 1: Well, can I just say, Trina, you, my friend, have
Speaker 1: just blown us away. I can't wait to continue to
Speaker 1: watch you tell stories through the lens of other women
Speaker 1: or as a cat or as a mouse. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't wait to watch and see what you do.
Speaker 1: I'll always be in your audience. So thank you.
Speaker 2: You're very very kind. That's going to make me tear.
Speaker 2: Thank you