Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the tennis for another week live
Speaker 1: from Pod labor Arena, Big week of tennis news. Yannick
Speaker 1: Sinner returns to massive fanfare with the four of Italico
Speaker 1: and Madrid. Champ caspar Rood opens up about his mental
Speaker 1: health journey and tarot tennis. What does that mean? Brie
Speaker 1: will fill us in later, but that's ahead with me
Speaker 1: joining me once again, John Fitzgerald with a new hip.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do well, it's a new seven weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling better, great, feeling better. Yeah, a little bit
Speaker 2: more traumatic than I.
Speaker 1: Thought it would. Oh really, they didn't knock you out.
Speaker 2: My pain threshold is not that high. But it's been good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of faith in the surgeon.
Speaker 4: And you're doing a lot of swimming. They say that's
Speaker 4: really good after hip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a problem if you sink when you swim.
Speaker 1: Oh it's actually forty eight.
Speaker 4: Really, I didn't realize that.
Speaker 2: Well, I've got six inches of titanium now, so mind
Speaker 2: mat that might make this It's light, okay, I hope.
Speaker 1: So you'd be fun at airports.
Speaker 2: My swimming airport's a problem. I have to be very upfront.
Speaker 1: Well, good, well, great to have you back.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 1: And last time he was here he was heading off
Speaker 1: to a wedding and now he's back. Luke Saville, welcome home.
Speaker 5: Thanks guys, good to be back. And yeah I made
Speaker 5: it home from the Philippines.
Speaker 3: So warm was it ever?
Speaker 5: Four days, big sweater, high humidity. The wedding suit was
Speaker 5: a challenge on wedding day, but yeah, it got through it.
Speaker 5: Put that suit straight into the dry cleaning when.
Speaker 3: I got home.
Speaker 1: And Dash, it was a bridesmaid.
Speaker 5: Dash as a bride's maid. You go, well, yep. She
Speaker 5: I had to tell her not to.
Speaker 1: Be the center of attention for that one day and
Speaker 1: she didn't listen to.
Speaker 3: She did, she never does, but yeah she was. She
Speaker 3: had an absolute blast.
Speaker 5: And yeah, destination wedding hadn't sort of the first one
Speaker 5: I've been to, and I highly recommend going to the Philippines.
Speaker 1: Put that on a list. And joining me is always
Speaker 1: his co host with the most it's pretty.
Speaker 4: Steuart, welcome, thank you, good to have you back.
Speaker 1: You're in my seat last week where.
Speaker 4: I was, I got a lot of good feedback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually got some too, and I I was fine.
Speaker 1: I was very happy for you. Yeah, yeah, wasn't right,
Speaker 1: agree at all? You're okay, yeah, cool, No, that's right.
Speaker 1: We share the load. It's all good, we do all right. Well,
Speaker 1: let's jump straight into the thick of it of the
Speaker 1: tennis news. What caught your eye this week? Fitzy hit
Speaker 1: us off well.
Speaker 2: Yannick Center huge, Yeah, returning after he's three months off
Speaker 2: and starting at his home championship. It's a big event,
Speaker 2: the Italian Open. We remember playing there. I can remember
Speaker 2: last century playing there and it what a great event
Speaker 2: in all aspects. So it's a big thing for Italian
Speaker 2: tennis having back, big thing for world tennis having back.
Speaker 2: And I'm an anabashed a fan fan of his, so
Speaker 2: you know, I always felt just I'll touch on it briefly,
Speaker 2: but I always felt if you could prove where you
Speaker 2: were where you tested positive, you can prove it and
Speaker 2: it's not intentional. You can prove that, and you can
Speaker 2: also that it's not performance enhancing. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: he proved his case well and the system needs to
Speaker 2: work like that. You can't just assume everyone is guilty,
Speaker 2: because there are people that are not. So I think
Speaker 2: he's a great leader of our sport. I know he's
Speaker 2: a quality person have the inside running on that very clearly,
Speaker 2: and I'm a wrap that he's back. I love watching
Speaker 2: him play things. Is great for the sport. So it's
Speaker 2: a big week this week for him and all of us.
Speaker 1: Much like any kind of legal thing, there has to
Speaker 1: be some sort of right of appeal, There needs to
Speaker 1: be a procedure in planyet. It sounds like that's what happened. Well,
Speaker 1: he proved it, and you know, it does the burden
Speaker 1: of proof that was the level when we hit it.
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't mean that innocent people don't get off,
Speaker 2: but in this case, it seems to me like the
Speaker 2: system worked, and that's what you want. You want a
Speaker 2: system that works if you can prove, and maybe other
Speaker 2: innocent people haven't been able to prove, and therefore it
Speaker 2: becomes word against word, doesn't it. But but look, let's
Speaker 2: move on from that. I think that's the downside. Exciting
Speaker 2: and everyone yes, and he's enormous for the sport. His
Speaker 2: record could end up, you know, as big as some
Speaker 2: of the game's greats, and it could over time.
Speaker 4: Do you both think him having some time off will
Speaker 4: make his game stronger?
Speaker 5: It's yeah, I keep going back and forth on expectations
Speaker 5: for him, especially the next few weeks, and obviously coming
Speaker 5: back straight into the highest level of the game, he's
Speaker 5: going to have a buyer, so he'll play someone that's
Speaker 5: got matches under their belt. So but obviously playing at
Speaker 5: home as well, they'll give him an extra leg as well.
Speaker 5: So I think, you know, probably lower expectations for him
Speaker 5: this first week. I'll be interested to see if he
Speaker 5: doesn't play many matches, if he takes a wild card
Speaker 5: into a two point fifty the week before the French Open,
Speaker 5: So just sort of monitor that one.
Speaker 1: But with your coach has had on, would that be
Speaker 1: your recommendation.
Speaker 5: Maybe if he doesn't get enough matches this yeah, I think,
Speaker 5: you know, if it's probably two or less matches, i'd
Speaker 5: probably I feel like they'd sort of explore that option
Speaker 5: a little bit. But you know, only three months out.
Speaker 5: The season is so long, and I actually think it
Speaker 5: probably gave him an opportunity to freshen up a little
Speaker 5: bit and come into the French Open ready and raring
Speaker 5: to go, where there's a few injury clouds amongst.
Speaker 3: The top of the game.
Speaker 2: Look, three months off is a long time.
Speaker 1: It is a long time, but.
Speaker 2: There are you know, there's so many cases where the
Speaker 2: rest periods are not long enough in our sport, and
Speaker 2: there's no real off season, and players that have toured,
Speaker 2: like this young fellow here next to me, know how
Speaker 2: physically debilitating it can be. So I think not necessarily.
Speaker 2: Will it help him in the first few weeks, Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe it will, but I'm not so convinced there. But
Speaker 2: in the second half of the year, that three months
Speaker 2: off might might make a big difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that three months, like he's not sitting on
Speaker 1: a beach sinking apparol spritzers, like he'd be working by
Speaker 1: that time to keep.
Speaker 2: Darren Kale has been in Monte Carlo for more than
Speaker 2: three weeks, three to four weeks. They've been working hard. Yeah.
Speaker 4: My other question is a bit often can you manage, like,
Speaker 4: imagine the energy right now in Rome with the conclavelave
Speaker 4: going on.
Speaker 1: You've got Cinner back, Yeah, Cinner for Pope.
Speaker 2: Well, there might be another statue. It will be Zeus too,
Speaker 2: one into the stadium.
Speaker 1: Yeah, put some white smoke up a new Pope Sinner's
Speaker 1: orange smoke, burned some carrots, very good. It's anything else
Speaker 1: to add on, old mate, Cinna.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just I just happened to be a fan
Speaker 2: of the good guys of the sport.
Speaker 1: Yeah and city next tok.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am absolutely. I've said that before in this
Speaker 2: public forum. It's not working, and I don't say it
Speaker 2: when I don't mean it, by the way. So I
Speaker 2: think we've been blessed in the men's game over the
Speaker 2: last you know, twenty or thirty years, We've had some
Speaker 2: great leaders of the sport, and this is one of
Speaker 2: the new ones. And he can be that locomotive that
Speaker 2: takes the game along end of the next serve. And
Speaker 2: if you've got a good character at the top of
Speaker 2: the game, I think it helps enormously.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely having someone for younger players, young kids look
Speaker 1: up to yours.
Speaker 5: You going to play the Devil's advocate real quick? Do
Speaker 5: you think it's a coincidence that his three months ran
Speaker 5: or the duration was between half the Australian Open and
Speaker 5: days before the Rome well Master's his home tournament.
Speaker 2: Fair question. As the Devil's advocate, if you read and
Speaker 2: know the information, you'd have to say no. Because the
Speaker 2: governing body they it's up to them to make that
Speaker 2: decision eventually, and so if you know about the appeals
Speaker 2: and the chronological order of how it all happened. I
Speaker 2: would say no, but I'm not party to the exact
Speaker 2: information there.
Speaker 1: It is convenient, though.
Speaker 3: Isn't it nice and convenient?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: See, that's that's that's suspicious.
Speaker 1: To talk about love conspiracy.
Speaker 5: I like your jacket by the way outside because I
Speaker 5: didn't forget to change the subject.
Speaker 1: Lawyer, All right, well, Luke, sticking with you, Caspar rud
Speaker 1: he's your court, your eye.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think one of the challenges for Janick Sinner at
Speaker 5: the French Open in a couple of weeks, just winning
Speaker 5: his first atp Masters one thousand in Madrid, defeating Jack Draper,
Speaker 5: who's having a fantastic season as well, now top five
Speaker 5: in three sets, and he's opened up about his mental
Speaker 5: health challenges and seeking some advice from a psychologist and yeah,
Speaker 5: he's quoted here it's like personal training for your brain.
Speaker 5: So I think, yeah, it's super important to come out
Speaker 5: and be open and honest like he has. And I
Speaker 5: feel like a lot of people can relate to that
Speaker 5: as well. On tour and I think, you know, from
Speaker 5: a public's perspective, we put a lot of these players,
Speaker 5: these professionals on such a pedestal, which they are incredible athletes,
Speaker 5: incredible players, and you sort of think, oh, they're doing
Speaker 5: just fine and making millions of dollars, but everyone, you know,
Speaker 5: sometimes or some people can be struggling behind quite closed door. Sorry,
Speaker 5: So I think great for him to be open and
Speaker 5: honest about that, and I feel like he's a real
Speaker 5: chance at the French Open in a few weeks. The
Speaker 5: last three years he's gone semi's final final, so I
Speaker 5: think he's a real challenger. One of the best players
Speaker 5: on the clay just moved so well, such a great
Speaker 5: fullhand who's playing the uts in France where I was
Speaker 5: a few weeks ago with Alex Demonaar and he won that,
Speaker 5: and just one of the best clay courters there is,
Speaker 5: and a real chance to win his first Slam.
Speaker 2: I think he's in that second tier of the of
Speaker 2: the top echelon.
Speaker 1: Yep, but of clay.
Speaker 2: He needs everything to go right for him.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I'll probably retract my words a little bit,
Speaker 5: like definitely on the hard court is a chance as well. Yep,
Speaker 5: the French he is legitimately one of the best clay
Speaker 5: courters in the world and I was having a chat
Speaker 5: with with all of my good friends this morning, and
Speaker 5: he was almost arguing he's the second favorite behind Carlos
Speaker 5: and with Yannix obviously average preparation without playing matches, so
Speaker 5: he's definitely a chance.
Speaker 3: And I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That argument's absolutely legitimate.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it's amazing, and I think well done
Speaker 4: to him for being open about his mental health struggles.
Speaker 4: I know, like we'll talk about it as just normal people,
Speaker 4: but being in the public eye that open about it.
Speaker 4: And I was reading too that Jack Draper has come
Speaker 4: out and talked about his anxiety as well, that he suffers,
Speaker 4: and you know, it's just becoming such a big important
Speaker 4: topic within tennis and sports.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone has their struggles, and just because you're at
Speaker 1: the top of your game, it doesn't make it worse, exactly,
Speaker 1: under such scrutiny from fans, from your detractors, from other players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but just opening up and just being honest with the
Speaker 1: tennis community, I think it just has a really good
Speaker 1: opportunity for that dialogue.
Speaker 2: I think that tennis community comes from a global community
Speaker 2: that are just average people. Initially most of them are.
Speaker 2: It's a cross section of a global community most of
Speaker 2: them come from average backgrounds, whatever that actually means, and
Speaker 2: they just happen to have a very special skill set
Speaker 2: in their area, like a lot of people do. In
Speaker 2: this world. There's this tennis and so they're going to
Speaker 2: have the same struggles as everyone else. Anxiety. Look, anxiety
Speaker 2: before you played big matches in front of a big crowd. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's pretty normal. If you weren't nervous playing on Sentta
Speaker 2: cord at Wimenen or any of those big stages, you weren't.
Speaker 1: You weren't paying attention, you weren't normal, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: But it's great. And Jack Draper, by the way, I
Speaker 2: take my hat off to him. Look, because he has
Speaker 2: had a run this first part of the year. I
Speaker 2: didn't quite see that coming in the Australian summer. And
Speaker 2: I've got I've got to admit, and I've always said
Speaker 2: that if you're not in the top five, six or
Speaker 2: seven men players in the world, you can't win a major.
Speaker 2: And so therefore I probably didn't give him a realistic
Speaker 2: chance of winning a major in the near future. But
Speaker 2: if he's top five now, he's knocking on the door
Speaker 2: of that top echelon of the sport. But qdostin him
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 5: He's always felt like he had the game, but maybe
Speaker 5: just the physical side he lacked potentially, So I felt
Speaker 5: like at the Australian Opening he still wasn't maybe playing
Speaker 5: as well as he is right now, but he won
Speaker 5: a few five setters which proved to me always is
Speaker 5: in much better shape here and mentally ready to take
Speaker 5: that next step, and he's playing unreal tennis like he's
Speaker 5: really taking care of some fantastic clay courters easily. So
Speaker 5: he's definitely one.
Speaker 3: To watch as well.
Speaker 5: I'm still not sure best of five seven matches if
Speaker 5: he can win a slam, but yeah, who knows.
Speaker 3: He might prove me wrong.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of caspar Ruod, he actually was to another player,
Speaker 1: Eager Sviertek, who's had some difficulties in the WABE and
Speaker 1: while I was perusing, as I do, Polish news sites
Speaker 1: with the help of Google Translate, it came across a
Speaker 1: little article that was pretty broadly picked up around Eager
Speaker 1: skipping the entire grass season. That has of course since
Speaker 1: been refuted by Eager herself saying no no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no no, I'm playing women. What are you
Speaker 1: talking about that?
Speaker 2: I'm glad she is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it would be quite a loss to have
Speaker 1: an entire grass season, no eager.
Speaker 2: And it's going to be the hardest one for her
Speaker 2: to win, I think, because her game is based around
Speaker 2: that forehand and she wants a high bouncing ball generally
Speaker 2: on that forehand, and grass rushes her a little bit,
Speaker 2: So it's going to be the hardest a surface for
Speaker 2: her to win on. But if she doesn't go there
Speaker 2: every year and give it a shake or give it
Speaker 2: a go, she may never win it. And she wants
Speaker 2: to give herself the best chance, and that's to play
Speaker 2: every year, earn every year, and finally hopefully Rory McAll.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And it sounds like she, you know, has
Speaker 1: had a lot going on recently. She's mentioned how a
Speaker 1: bit of a slump in her form, passing her grandfather
Speaker 1: and a few other things sort of building up. But
Speaker 1: it sounds like she's very keen to get back on
Speaker 1: the court, you know, her happy place essentially, and use
Speaker 1: that to help propel her through this and then get
Speaker 1: onto the hardcourt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we definitely hope she's doing better and
Speaker 5: plays the grass. And I'm not sure about you, FITZI
Speaker 5: but when you played, I'm sure there were some guys
Speaker 5: where if you drew them at the French you almost
Speaker 5: shake the hand and say, well you're.
Speaker 3: Much better than me, but yeah, too good. But then
Speaker 3: you draw them.
Speaker 2: It was about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you draw them a month later and you're licking
Speaker 5: your lips and you're saying, is this is a good draw?
Speaker 5: I think you know with all jurispeic Eager and Casper
Speaker 5: are similar in that sense where you draw them at
Speaker 5: the French and I'd shake the hands before walking out.
Speaker 5: But Casper is probably one of the better draws for
Speaker 5: a seed on grass. I think you know that's probably
Speaker 5: a fair comment.
Speaker 2: Have a titlet wimed.
Speaker 5: Right, yes, and I was just thinking she did. But yeah,
Speaker 5: his famous comment was the only grass that he likes.
Speaker 5: He's on a golf course.
Speaker 4: Sticking with you, Bret, I am moving to talk about
Speaker 4: some women who had some wins this week. Firstly, I
Speaker 4: wanted to chat about Naomi Osaka, who won in Saint Marlow.
Speaker 4: It was a w T a one two five event
Speaker 4: and clay for hers, she considers her worst and last
Speaker 4: year she was talking about I remember we talked about her,
Speaker 4: I think on the pod about how she's really focusing
Speaker 4: on mastering it because she'd always considered it her worst
Speaker 4: so first and she really really wanted to get there anyway.
Speaker 4: She won, and she put up some really great posts
Speaker 4: on Instagram. She did some great tiktoks about how she
Speaker 4: was eating it up and she was you know, it's
Speaker 4: just really great to see.
Speaker 1: Her back well finally that she also had some kind
Speaker 1: of struggle with mental health and that you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago and now look at her now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is her first title in four years
Speaker 4: since she's come back after her break from mental health
Speaker 4: and having a baby. So I'm really excited to see
Speaker 4: what she can do. She faces Palla Badoza in round
Speaker 4: two at the Australian the Australian Open, the Adelian Open,
Speaker 4: having just been in Sarah Rani. Not an easy drawer
Speaker 4: with Bidoza, so we'll see what happens there. But the
Speaker 4: other person I wanted to talk about was Petra Kaviteva,
Speaker 4: who is just back from having her baby and she
Speaker 4: has won her first match as a mother, so that's
Speaker 4: really great as well, and she says she's back for joy,
Speaker 4: not results, and I think sometimes we've talked about this
Speaker 4: lots of times. Sometimes when you're playing for.
Speaker 1: Fun, you get to get more results, come for the joy,
Speaker 1: tat the traffic home.
Speaker 4: So they're just two gowls I wanted to call out.
Speaker 4: I think it's really exciting.
Speaker 1: Two women out there.
Speaker 2: Absolutely love both of them. Yeah, you know, it's a
Speaker 2: story of resilience when you can go through I think
Speaker 2: what Naomi's been through and what a credit to her.
Speaker 2: That feeling of winning a tournament happens for most of
Speaker 2: us very rarely at that level. It's you know, there
Speaker 2: are only six times I didn't leave six times I
Speaker 2: didn't leave the tournament as a loser in my career,
Speaker 2: and the in men's singles on the tour, so they're
Speaker 2: very difficult to win. This will be a beautiful feeling
Speaker 2: for a beautiful feeling, I would think for her to
Speaker 2: win again, and especially on clay on clay, it might
Speaker 2: give her a real I think kick along ter. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if she could ever become what she was before.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but great and give bit of a
Speaker 2: two time win Wooden champion. Yeah, sometimes when you don't
Speaker 2: expect to win and you don't actually put that as
Speaker 2: your first priority you win a little easier, it can
Speaker 2: happen mentally, so it'll be interesting to see where she goes.
Speaker 1: I've got to say a complete sidebar, but one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things about tennis is that it's the only
Speaker 1: sport where you literally get the rug pulled out and
Speaker 1: the surfaces different. Like the NBA doesn't suddenly go from
Speaker 1: hard floors to carpet. You don't see your right. But
Speaker 1: it's really interesting part of the sport because hard caught, grass, clay,
Speaker 1: they are completely different things, and.
Speaker 4: It kind of changes the dynamic.
Speaker 1: He We've still got the same players, but that yeah,
Speaker 1: like you were saying, it really flips on its head.
Speaker 1: You know, this one he or she is going to
Speaker 1: absolutely smash it. The French become Wimbledon lucky to get
Speaker 1: through the first round. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: And the ball variation on a grass court and a
Speaker 2: clay court is a great part I think of our sport.
Speaker 2: You know, if you have a perfect bounce, every time,
Speaker 2: there's room for a perfect bounce. You know, the US
Speaker 2: and Aussie Open, we get a reasonably perfect bounce. Sometimes
Speaker 2: they're a little lower or faster, but on the clay
Speaker 2: and on the grass, there's deviation, yeah, and that's part
Speaker 2: of learning how to how to play. It's I think
Speaker 2: it's a great nuance for our sport. The change of surface.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it makes it completely different to any others even
Speaker 1: other racket sports.
Speaker 5: The traveling component as well, and even I think Sasha's
Speaker 5: where I've spoke about the difference in conditions for clay
Speaker 5: on clay courts recently, and like he won Munich and
Speaker 5: that's historically very heavy and slow courts and nice and
Speaker 5: cold there, and then you've got a Madrid where it's
Speaker 5: six hundred meters out toitude, balls flying around and top
Speaker 5: to control and he's played well at both, so I
Speaker 5: feel like that's yeah, it's even grass has obviously changed
Speaker 5: over the years, Fitzy, but just the difference in court
Speaker 5: speed and mental fortitude as well, and having to I guess, yeah,
Speaker 5: acclimatize to different time zones, and you know, Alex Demona
Speaker 5: for example, and a lot of the players earlier in
Speaker 5: the year went from Dubai to Indian Wells, and you
Speaker 5: know that's just that's an absolute hike, and you've got
Speaker 5: to prepare and play four weeks in the States as
Speaker 5: well in different conditions. So it's definitely a challenge that
Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of people tis sort of
Speaker 5: give enough respect to.
Speaker 2: Playing with jet leg you know, if I can dwell
Speaker 2: on a great point well away look made on clay.
Speaker 2: Clay is made from the local area generally, So you
Speaker 2: have a quarry in Hamburg that is different to a
Speaker 2: quarry in Rome, and so you get a different consistency, yeah,
Speaker 2: a different different grain and it behaves differently. And then
Speaker 2: you have the climate that kicks in. So if you've
Speaker 2: got a lot of rain, there's it's colder in Hamburg
Speaker 2: than it is in Rome. It reacts differently. All of
Speaker 2: those things contribute to the nuances of what happens on clay.
Speaker 2: They're not the same, you know, you think generically they're
Speaker 2: all the same service, but they're not. They're very different.
Speaker 2: And they then you go to altitude, it is a
Speaker 2: whole different ballgame, like Luke said, So all of that
Speaker 2: for me adds to the character not just of our
Speaker 2: clay court tennis, but the character.
Speaker 1: Of this of individual tournaments within that swing. That's why
Speaker 1: we love this absolutely. Yeah, all right, well, they're still
Speaker 1: a quick whip around the rest of the news. Sabalanca
Speaker 1: Current Queen of the women's Game took another title in Madrid.
Speaker 1: Pretty impressive.
Speaker 4: Yep, it is very impressive.
Speaker 1: I thoughts other than that, Jo.
Speaker 4: I love that she keeps winning. I kind of want
Speaker 4: someone else to win though, just the storylines. But I
Speaker 4: think she's doing really well and she's obviously playing amazingly
Speaker 4: and it'd be interesting to see what we see in Rome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And young Ozzie maya joint. She was actually
Speaker 1: on the sit Down this week. She made it through
Speaker 1: the qualities again. In Rome, she went down overnight very
Speaker 1: tight three cents sets against Emma Radicadu. She's just definitely.
Speaker 4: In it with Emma Radicano, which is great to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brent, but I think we've actually got a little
Speaker 1: clip from this week's sit down Andie chuck it.
Speaker 7: In or you've cracked top eighty. What that has done
Speaker 7: for you is just completely changed the way that your
Speaker 7: schedule and your season is looking. So like walking onto
Speaker 7: pat Raft Arena under lights in front of five thousand
Speaker 7: people to play as a rinker, or playing Pagoula on
Speaker 7: John Cane Arena at a Grand Slam like twelve months ago,
Speaker 7: you wouldn't know we need that.
Speaker 6: It's definitely a this is ridiculous kind of moment where
Speaker 6: I didn't really feel like I was supposed to be
Speaker 6: there kind of okay, like it just felt really weird
Speaker 6: me being there or playing against Pegoula and John Kine.
Speaker 6: That was very walking out into that court, I felt,
Speaker 6: oh boy, this is I was like, I'm not winning
Speaker 6: this match. That's what I was saying.
Speaker 4: Now, Okay, And I've had to work a.
Speaker 6: Lot with my mental coach about just kind of playing
Speaker 6: those matches because more of those matches have happened where
Speaker 6: I'm playing like a name, yeah, and I just need
Speaker 6: to play the bowl that's coming at me. I'm not
Speaker 6: the person.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So my joint there. If you want to listen
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Speaker 4: I wanted to call out one other person who just
Speaker 4: won this morning from Australia, Jordan Thompson defeated.
Speaker 1: Why are you bring him up? Bro?
Speaker 4: Because I love him. I Betchy Perikard three six six
Speaker 4: three seven six and he's up next against Nakashima. So
Speaker 4: well done, Jordan, and he thoughts from his best mate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, well yeah, it's great to see tom O back.
Speaker 5: He's been dealing with some injury problems lately. I think
Speaker 5: the latest one was an oblique I've been spinning a
Speaker 5: little bit to his coach, Marenko Matosovich, and was struggling
Speaker 5: in Barcelona with that, and I don't believe he played
Speaker 5: singles in Madrid. So it's in a few weeks to
Speaker 5: recover and great to see his back and that's definitely
Speaker 5: a winnable match against Brandon Nakashima, and again just having
Speaker 5: an incredible career.
Speaker 3: Tom I.
Speaker 5: He was I guess playing away in the in the
Speaker 5: challenges for a while. They're sitting around seventy or eighty
Speaker 5: in the world, which is having a fantast career, and
Speaker 5: I guess the question mark was if he could sort
Speaker 5: of push into the top fifty and even get seated
Speaker 5: at Grand Slams. And I feel like he's changed his
Speaker 5: game so a little bit, playing a little more aggressive
Speaker 5: and made a few tweaks and just you know, playing
Speaker 5: great singles and doubles. Grand Slam winner in the doubles
Speaker 5: as well, So fantastic.
Speaker 3: The sea. I'm very happy for my good mate.
Speaker 1: Plenty more of the tennis to come stick around. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a quick break after that, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a top five and then the ace of the week
Speaker 1: stick around. All right, well, welcome back. I'm in a
Speaker 1: new seat. There's weird stuff on the table. Are we
Speaker 1: playing solitaire? I don't know, Brie over to you.
Speaker 4: Aren't you gonna like announce it? No, you're gonna let
Speaker 4: me do it.
Speaker 1: This is all you. I just want to know why
Speaker 1: this crystal's here and why it's sticking.
Speaker 4: That one's good for protection?
Speaker 1: Has it got honey on it or something?
Speaker 4: Anyway, it's cold.
Speaker 1: So for those who are watching on YouTube and the
Speaker 1: list of thing, there's crystals on the table, Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: Bree has tarot cards card. Normally this is where we'd
Speaker 1: be doing a top five.
Speaker 4: Okay, So for the top five today, we're going to
Speaker 4: go through five players. And we know that we had
Speaker 4: great feedback from about twelve months ago when we did
Speaker 4: horoscopes and players. We thought today we would see how
Speaker 4: they're going to go at rome. Am I supposed to
Speaker 4: play that?
Speaker 1: Okay? So theme music Mystic Brief, I love it.
Speaker 4: Good work, producers. But we're going to go through five
Speaker 4: players and we're going to pull a card from the
Speaker 4: deck and we'll talk about how they might go. So
Speaker 4: just you know, I grew up in a hippie home.
Speaker 4: I've been reading cards since I was about fifteen. Taro is.
Speaker 4: There's no bad tarrant cards. They are only bad tarot readers.
Speaker 4: So like lots of people think there's lots of evil
Speaker 4: around it, it's actually they're all.
Speaker 1: You can put a good spin on every card. Yes,
Speaker 1: let's see what we get. Leave that there first.
Speaker 4: What's None of them are bad, but like some mean stuff. Anyway,
Speaker 4: the first one is going to be I get that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I've got the sound right. The first one be Naomi Osaka.
Speaker 4: So she is up firstly, as we discussed in round
Speaker 4: two with Paula Bodoza. So fun fact, she won her
Speaker 4: first title as a mother last week in France. Again,
Speaker 4: we just.
Speaker 1: Talked about it.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna pull a card. What have we got, Okay,
Speaker 4: we've got the three cups.
Speaker 1: Yes, she's gonna beat three trophies.
Speaker 4: No, she's gonna I think she might win Bidosa because
Speaker 4: this is the card of celebration, so it means winning basically,
Speaker 4: like good things coming.
Speaker 2: They're all celebrated, babies or anything.
Speaker 3: No, not three games.
Speaker 4: No, it's just celebration. So I think she's gonna win.
Speaker 4: There we go, Naomi Osaka.
Speaker 1: It is great.
Speaker 2: I like that when you interpret a tarot cat anyway
Speaker 2: you want. Ah, what about if.
Speaker 1: You do this and turn it upside down?
Speaker 4: I don't believe in that depends on the taro.
Speaker 1: It's not very convenient.
Speaker 4: Like when well, it depends on the reader. Some readers
Speaker 4: believe if they're upside down, it's the opposite that came
Speaker 4: out up the right way though, So regardless, I still
Speaker 4: think it's celebration. Every tarot card has a story, and
Speaker 4: the more you start to read them, the more you
Speaker 4: understand the story. And I've also read a book on
Speaker 4: the history of tarot cards.
Speaker 2: You're becoming very intimidating.
Speaker 4: I have become you know, I have predicted people of
Speaker 4: when they're going to fall pregnant who didn't know they
Speaker 4: would fall pregnant. I was I, reckon, you're going to
Speaker 4: be pregnant in April, and she found out in April.
Speaker 3: She was pregnant.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: She was like, nah, no, we're not. Yeah, I can
Speaker 4: be good, not always.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Naomi hopes you are So that was good.
Speaker 1: What else you got?
Speaker 4: Okay? Number two, we're going to rubelfe who's one of
Speaker 4: my faves. He is playing either Fonseca or Marizon. Did
Speaker 4: I say that right?
Speaker 6: Yep?
Speaker 4: And he A fun fact about him is that he
Speaker 4: slept with his racket as a kid. So I'm going
Speaker 4: to pull a card. I'm not sure how relevant that
Speaker 4: will be to the cards. Okay, No, this card is
Speaker 4: about how sometimes it's the six of coins or the pentacles,
Speaker 4: depending what you want to call it. And you can
Speaker 4: see here one hand, the man is holding a just
Speaker 4: as symbol and there's beggars and there's all coins around him.
Speaker 4: So sometimes this card generally means you need to give
Speaker 4: to get in return. So I think there's probably some
Speaker 4: stuff he's going to need to do to win on
Speaker 4: the court, and that giving might need to be to
Speaker 4: himself in terms of self care.
Speaker 2: It may also need to be to his racket. It
Speaker 2: could be it's been pretty harsh on a couple of rackets.
Speaker 1: He's got sleeping with him and cuddling his racket now
Speaker 1: to ripping them apart on the court.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think he probably needs to give I reckon,
Speaker 4: it's to himself. He needs to give himself some self
Speaker 4: love in order to you've done on the pot.
Speaker 3: You're the reader.
Speaker 1: So if he does that, your card.
Speaker 4: You generally win.
Speaker 1: Great. Okay, it's good win.
Speaker 4: Okay, number three on we love on. So she's up
Speaker 4: against someone we were just talking to talking about. Bit
Speaker 4: of our fun fact. She's known as the Minister of
Speaker 4: Happiness on tour. So let's see if we can give
Speaker 4: her some happiness based on the cards. Oh okay, this
Speaker 4: is the wheel of.
Speaker 1: Fortune, will or is it a different one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a different one. Okay, we're not guessing any words.
Speaker 4: This just means that you everything that you need to
Speaker 4: achieve what you want you have. It's about how you play.
Speaker 1: He's got the tools, just needs to deploy them correctly.
Speaker 4: How you play it. Okay, So it means you can
Speaker 4: have it all right, but are you doing what you
Speaker 4: need to?
Speaker 1: So far, these have all sounded very similar to it.
Speaker 1: I knew you were going to say that if you
Speaker 1: can do a thing, but you know you want to
Speaker 1: do the thing.
Speaker 4: You know what's really interesting? This is major arcana. So
Speaker 4: this is a power card right, major economies that sits
Speaker 4: at the top. And these are like your suits cards.
Speaker 4: So this is a big card meaning this I'm saying
Speaker 4: the wheel of fortune. It's a big card and meaning
Speaker 4: that like big things are shifting if but this is
Speaker 4: what fortune telling is. Everything relies on your choices. I
Speaker 4: could shift tomorrow based on what they choose. Great and
Speaker 4: thank god, these are all very positive cards.
Speaker 1: Yeah good negative.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got Sister Pass. He's up against Mula. Fun fact.
Speaker 4: He had a near death experience in twenty fifteen while swimming,
Speaker 4: and Create says it changed his life and he made
Speaker 4: peace with death.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 4: We might keep shuffling for a bit card based on
Speaker 4: what we just talked about. This card is another trip
Speaker 4: to crete. Whoops, No, he's got the luck card.
Speaker 1: Just luck. Sorry more Luke's called it.
Speaker 4: It's it's literally it's the luck mystic Luke. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's not much to say about that's one.
Speaker 1: Everything else. He's the handsomest man in the hell be around.
Speaker 4: My predictions would be a circle win. Cis Pass will
Speaker 4: win both rube lev and Ons have the power.
Speaker 1: To Okay, yeah, they've got a few extra trophies at
Speaker 1: this event because if everyone's winning.
Speaker 4: Just this next round. Oh, gotta pick up a phone
Speaker 4: call it. Okay, our last one for Paulini. She is
Speaker 4: up against lu lu San who obviously had some good
Speaker 4: runs last year. Fast fact about Paolini. She is from Tuscany,
Speaker 4: but Rome is her favorite city in the world. So
Speaker 4: will home be her lucky city?
Speaker 1: Probably based on these Oh there she is.
Speaker 4: She's got the joker.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this actually means if she tries, she can win.
Speaker 1: Still loved her.
Speaker 4: I'm never eating your you will never get any assistance
Speaker 4: with your life.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 4: The Joker is about new beginnings, it's about innocence, it's
Speaker 4: about bridal joy, and it's also about just going with
Speaker 4: the flow and seeing what happens. So no real answer there.
Speaker 4: I think this is just who she is. She's a
Speaker 4: bit of a joker. Yeah, I would say. I would
Speaker 4: say that her personality is embodied by this card.
Speaker 1: So she's not going to win.
Speaker 4: I think she's just going to go out and court
Speaker 4: like she always does and see what happens. Yet to
Speaker 4: be determined.
Speaker 1: Okay, TVC card good, did we enjoy that? I had
Speaker 1: a hoop?
Speaker 3: I'm confused, but so.
Speaker 4: You layout, guys, and then we go deep levels and.
Speaker 1: Then okay, well, for more insation on that, check out
Speaker 1: breeze upcoming podcast, Mystic bree and the Bullshittery of Nothing.
Speaker 4: Quite good.
Speaker 1: No, that was fun and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: Totally different. But look, I think you know it's not
Speaker 4: gonna be bad for any of them.
Speaker 1: I've got no thoughts.
Speaker 4: We ask, Yeah, none of the other ones.
Speaker 1: What our aces of the week. I think we can
Speaker 1: all agree that it was everyone was.
Speaker 3: I got think of another one?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, come on, Fitzy and I are both Country
Speaker 5: South and my mum, brother and nephew are coming to
Speaker 5: the Big Smoke this weekend.
Speaker 1: Who were?
Speaker 5: That's a definitely a new one, new experience and off air,
Speaker 5: Breeze just told me that Carlton are going to be
Speaker 5: Saint Kilda tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: So as a as a.
Speaker 5: Culton fan, I'll go to that game now. I was
Speaker 5: just waiting to see they're going to go to that
Speaker 5: one maybe one or two more games and just will Okay, I'm.
Speaker 1: Going another luck card. That's God, all right?
Speaker 3: We need we needed that win.
Speaker 2: Is there any possibility they may not win?
Speaker 5: There always is hard for Saint Kildo then.
Speaker 2: So you can't you want to can't curse out the
Speaker 2: year the two reader mate when when they look, if
Speaker 2: they look, you do let it curse herround?
Speaker 3: What are they going to fumble the ball like that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. So that'sulating the cards.
Speaker 5: So that's my ace of the They're going to be
Speaker 5: here for the weekend, show them around the city and
Speaker 5: just have have a good time.
Speaker 1: It sounds very fun.
Speaker 2: Tell us tell us your hometown. What's the name of it?
Speaker 2: I know what it is, but I want to hear
Speaker 2: it from you.
Speaker 5: Cobb, Dogglar, Cobb and Cobby is the the three on
Speaker 5: of people leave there one main street.
Speaker 2: But yeah, on the northern side of the just you
Speaker 2: know there's a curve in the river there is in
Speaker 2: the Murray River where yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: So in the riverland region. Yeah, six nice hard courts
Speaker 5: there and we bad above bad above our average on
Speaker 5: a state scale. We always go to Adelaide for the
Speaker 5: regional competition country canals, country carnival and.
Speaker 3: We always do quite well.
Speaker 5: So it's going to be good for them to come
Speaker 5: here and a nice it all change for them.
Speaker 2: How long are they stay?
Speaker 3: Just the weekend? That's all they can handle?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, I walked in here an hour ago,
Speaker 2: and you know, I was feeling I was early and
Speaker 2: I was not rushed at all. And I came in
Speaker 2: and I was feeling relaxed, and I took my jacket off.
Speaker 2: I left it on the closed hook of the closer
Speaker 2: and I look up at the beginning of the podcast
Speaker 2: and the host is wearing my jacket, not me.
Speaker 1: It looks great, you mean this was I.
Speaker 2: Got to say, you look good in it? But am
Speaker 2: I going to get it back?
Speaker 1: It's my question, you might not necessarily today.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: Well, I walked in and I realized that the T
Speaker 1: shirt I had on it wasn't I it's all and
Speaker 1: suggested I should cover it, all of it, including stuff.
Speaker 2: There's no sweat marks, No, no, no, I'm just checking.
Speaker 1: It's fine. It did have a nice musk to it
Speaker 1: when I put on. Hopefully that'll rub off. One of
Speaker 1: our producers grabbed it and said, oh, there's a random
Speaker 1: jacket here, and he just goes, yeah, it's my jacket.
Speaker 2: It's my favorite brand.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, came up Williams.
Speaker 2: Oh you know the story.
Speaker 1: Though I know you talk you length. I've got reginal
Speaker 1: marriage on now.
Speaker 2: I have a fetish for Aroon Williams.
Speaker 1: Good, and so I got to how many pairs have
Speaker 1: you got?
Speaker 2: Do I have to answer that.
Speaker 4: How don't you bought like three pairs the last time
Speaker 4: you were here? Or was that your friend?
Speaker 2: I have no He was going on, I have a
Speaker 2: pair for every day of the week.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got to admit.
Speaker 2: Maybe more than that fashion of my first In short,
Speaker 2: that's my first Aaron William's jacket, right. I bought it. It
Speaker 2: was special to me. Now I'm not sure how special
Speaker 2: it still lives.
Speaker 1: I haven't passed win once.
Speaker 2: Great, I'm not sure I asked that question.
Speaker 1: No, I don't need to be prompted for everything.
Speaker 4: I've gone to the dogs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's good. Well, thanks thanks for the loaner.
Speaker 1: Please shall we returned after express strike cleanning?
Speaker 2: Thanks? Andy?
Speaker 1: Ace of the week for myself. Look, it's been a
Speaker 1: bit of a bumpy week. My son fractured his ankle.
Speaker 1: He's five years old, so he was not too thrilled
Speaker 1: about it. But he's got his little moon burd on now.
Speaker 1: But I think the Ace of the week for me
Speaker 1: was related to that. When we dropped off at school,
Speaker 1: all of his little school buddies came out, and we're
Speaker 1: excited to see him because he's got his little crutches,
Speaker 1: which he was very nervous about. And I'm like, mate,
Speaker 1: they're all going to want to go have a crack
Speaker 1: at them, and they did. Everyone to go. The principal
Speaker 1: came out, his teacher and all everyone at the school
Speaker 1: was great. So he, you know, not ran off, but
Speaker 1: he kind of hobbled off on his crutches and his
Speaker 1: little five year old sized moonboot and had a great
Speaker 1: day apparently. So yeah, my ace of the week was
Speaker 1: Matt masson prim School. You are brilliant, beautiful, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much. Yes, what about your break?
Speaker 4: Do you know what? My ace of the week is
Speaker 4: oddly related And we didn't even align this so as
Speaker 4: our listeners probably know if you've been around for a bit,
Speaker 4: I am accident prone and have had issues with my ankle,
Speaker 4: which I did ligaments in once. Then I did it
Speaker 4: three months later. Then I I what did I do?
Speaker 4: I sprained my big toe during the AO, and after
Speaker 4: the AO I broke my little toe like and not
Speaker 4: just broke. I then started was playing tennis on the
Speaker 4: little toe that was broken, and then they were like,
Speaker 4: you need an X right, you've chipped off the bone
Speaker 4: from jumping while playing tennis horrifically anyway, So I've been
Speaker 4: off my feet other than walking the dog for quite
Speaker 4: a while, and I like to exercise. I am back running.
Speaker 4: It's very good news. I'm not running far because I'm
Speaker 4: so scared now of injuring something. But I've done a
Speaker 4: couple of cads the last two days and I'm feeling
Speaker 4: good and I'm just happy to be back running.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really excited. Yeah, but stay tuned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly two weeks from now, just in full body traction.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I've got a friend who's like, sure
Speaker 4: you're not that accident prone, Like, and you were friend
Speaker 4: And then we were out for drinks the other night
Speaker 4: and I'm talking getting excited about something. Next minute I
Speaker 4: had thrown my hands and thrown the wine glass and
Speaker 4: the wine went all the way down the back of
Speaker 4: the man next to me. Is what Ralph Lauren shirt.
Speaker 1: At least it wasn't our worm.
Speaker 4: And I was like, and luck he was dark because
Speaker 4: he's like, don't worry about it, don't worry about it,
Speaker 4: and it was bad. I was like, and he the
Speaker 4: guy I was with. He was like, you are accident prone.
Speaker 4: I was like, I am anyway, so stay tuned.
Speaker 1: Well that's very good to hear. We're consistently worried about you,
Speaker 1: but me so my friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might have a high paint Forresshold, I do
Speaker 2: have a high she talks about. That's impressive.
Speaker 4: No redheads do. It's like a gene thing. The mutated
Speaker 4: gene hit a.
Speaker 3: Tennis among colleagues.
Speaker 1: She stopped playing because they kept destroying her.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I stopped because I thought I was impacting the enjoyment
Speaker 4: of the game.
Speaker 3: Stopp because you were losing.
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, But you know what, I have fun.
Speaker 4: That's all that good. I'm playing for the joy these days. Luke,
Speaker 4: you'll probably I might need to pay you.
Speaker 3: To let's go.
Speaker 2: He's expensive.
Speaker 1: I'll pay it paying tarror readings.
Speaker 2: He's going to.
Speaker 1: All right. We just sent it to madness, as we
Speaker 1: always do. It's usually my fault. This week it was Bree,
Speaker 1: So thank you all for being a part of the show.
Speaker 1: Always fun having you guys. Bree as usual, hoot and half.
Speaker 4: Great to be here. I'll leave my tarot cards and
Speaker 4: crystals at home next week.
Speaker 1: No, leave them here. Andy wants to have a crack after.
Speaker 1: I want to see what Harpers future holds In the
Speaker 1: edit process, plenty to be done. Join us again next
Speaker 1: week as Rome will be getting towards the business end
Speaker 1: of its event, and in the meantime, don't forget. You
Speaker 1: can watch this episode every episode of the Tennis on
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Speaker 1: to do. It's up to you. That's it. Thanks Tan,
Speaker 1: have a great week in tennis.
Speaker 6: Have you both