1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: And Amanda gem Nation down. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: To the juggy demand arounds for the pub test today. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: Firing employees for infidelity, does it pass the pub test? 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: Sounds extraordinary? But Natalie Dawson is a CEO. She was 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: being interviewed by Steve Bartlett, who's another CEO and his 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: podcast called Funny Enough Diary of the Ceo, and she said. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: This, I publicly shared a TikTok about firing somebody because 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: I found out that she was cheating on her significant other. 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: And the other person also had a significant other, and 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 3: as soon as I found out about it, it terminated 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 3: both of them. One would say, that's none of your 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: business what they're doing when they go home. Not to 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 3: get into specifics of the particular event, but it happened 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: to be around work. 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: But if it wasn't at work, you still even. 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: If it was, I would fire the person immediately. 17 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: See for someone for shooting. 18 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: If they're going to cheat on the person they're supposed 19 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 3: to spend the rest of her life with, do you 20 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: think that they're cheating on their work? That person is 21 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: a liability to the environment. 22 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: I've thoughts about this. If you caught him bagging on 23 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: the bathroom floor, shaggy style. 24 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: Then yes, possibly, But where do you draw the line 25 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: on what kind of a you were tolerating your employees? 26 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: What if it's someone who has no friends, someone who 27 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: is a social liability, someone who is a drinker. Where 28 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: do you draw the line? She's drawn it at infidelity, 29 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: but I think that's off limits. Your private life is 30 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: your private life. We're allowing too much access into our 31 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: private lives. They don't own our lives. Firing employees for infidelity? 32 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: Does it pass the pub test? 33 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 4: Ah? 34 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it pasts the pub test. In one 35 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: of my workplaces, if it was rampant and then we 36 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't have had no employees. But where do you draw 37 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: the line? As Amanda said, bad breath, flatulence? You know, 38 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: do you sack everyone that's got something bad in their lives? 39 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, it definitely doesn't pass us up test. 40 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: So I guess what it comes down to the company. 41 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 4: What happened outside the workplace is now out of business. 42 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 4: It's got a private bath for reasons. What happens on 43 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 4: to a stays on tour and just leave it be. 44 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: I think it's more to generate discussion because it wouldn't 45 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: even hold up in the SERA Work Commission is someone 46 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: to do that. You can't do that because it's got 47 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: no merit and it just wouldn't stand up. 48 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: Totally experience that. My husband was fired from his jobs 49 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: from having an affair with someone at work and they 50 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: ended up having a baby, So I think they were 51 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 4: right to fire him on a morality chuse, you're not 52 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 4: a problem. 53 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: With that, you see, Yikes, it happens in the real world. 54 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: I've brought some work home with me. 55 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: You know Sharon from accounts, Well, you should see the 56 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: weight she's putting on. 57 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: Imagine if they did that in politics, Rich, I wouldn't 58 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: have lasted two weeks. 59 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: Wow, interesting times.