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Speaker 1: This is Outspoken, the podcast It is not afraid to

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Speaker 1: say exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate

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Speaker 1: and Sophie Torbor. We're identical triplets, but we often don't

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Speaker 1: have identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken

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Speaker 1: covers all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women.

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Speaker 2: That is so fetched.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, hello, and welcome back to Outspoken. Now, I,

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Speaker 1: for one, am absolutely sweltering in this room. It is

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Speaker 1: the first thirty two degree day for spring at the moment,

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Speaker 1: and it is boiling hot in here. Let me paint

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Speaker 1: the picture for you. Sophie is sitting in shorts that

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Speaker 1: are so short I can barely see them in a singlet.

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Speaker 1: But then we've got Amy on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the room that I think you've got something quite wrong

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Speaker 1: with you because you're in full jumper and leggings. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I'm not really feeling

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Speaker 1: the heat today. I pleaded to turn the bloody air

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Speaker 1: I think we're very lucky in Adelaide to have such

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Speaker 1: good weather. But I think it's back to like eighteen

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Speaker 1: about Adelaide and how small it is for those who

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Speaker 1: don't live in Adelaide. Basically, everyone knows each other. It's

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Speaker 1: like a big country town. And I was at a

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Speaker 1: house inspection and we brought Mum and Dad down to

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Speaker 1: with it. Basically, and funnily enough, Mum recognized the real

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Speaker 1: estate agent because a couple of months ago, the neighbors

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Speaker 1: to Mum and Dad sold their house and Mum went

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Speaker 1: over for a nosy look, which I think we did

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Speaker 1: talk about on the podcast Addresses, and the real estate

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Speaker 1: agent called her nosy because she refused to put her

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Speaker 1: name down. No, I believe he called it missus nosey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so she got really offended. So when I realized this connection,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, because we were actually really

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Speaker 1: realized it was missus nosey. We're talking about houses, Sophie.

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Speaker 1: Our Facebook community were shocked to actually discover that the

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Speaker 1: Haggle dump that you referred to in our last episode

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Speaker 1: is actually a real place. You weren't actually calling the

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Speaker 1: shop dump. The place is legitimate name. Yeah, that's its

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Speaker 2: It is its legitimate name.

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Speaker 1: And I do have a recommendation for people who are

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Speaker 1: looking for a bit of a bargain. So we moved

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Speaker 1: on from Haggle Dump because we couldn't actually afford anything

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Speaker 1: ironically there. So instead we found this really cool shop.

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Speaker 1: It was advertising a marketplace and it's like a pop

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Speaker 1: up shop and they sell furniture that has been used

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Speaker 1: in display homes or to sell homes. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I just got the biggest bargain delivered to our house.

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Speaker 1: It's this buffet side table. I will put it in

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Speaker 1: the group for you guys to check it out. And

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Speaker 1: it was only one hundred and fifty dollars. It's incredible.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because my boyfriend Brandon was like, don't tell

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Speaker 1: now I'm like broadcasting on opp podcast. Oh we better

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Speaker 1: some stuff from there now, Amy, I feel like you've

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Speaker 1: got to fill everyone and because you've completely changed you. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here next to brunettes. Now, thank god, I'm

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Speaker 1: the different one again. Yes, I've gone brunette and I'm

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say. The only downside was my dad's

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Speaker 1: pure honesty. It's saying he thought I'd gone ginger. Not

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Speaker 1: first topic. The Queensland government has been slammed over claims

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Speaker 1: But it really does play into the fact, well money speaks,

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Speaker 1: and Tommy Bug used to play for Melbourne, can you

435
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Speaker 1: imagine if Sharney was in the hub. Well, I mean

436
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 1: I think, as Kate said, we wouldn't see any content anyway. Sorry,

437
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,160
Speaker 1: that's right, I think Okay, As Kate said, it could

438
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: be quite damaging or even more so damaging to the

439
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 1: AFL because I mean, it was quite confusing because I

440
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: went to have a look at a page to have

441
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 1: a suss of whether she was putting up any Insta stories,

442
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: and someone in our community actually told me that angry

443
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,479
Speaker 1: Dad is recording and doing Insta stories of all of

444
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Speaker 1: her pr packages back in.

445
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Speaker 2: Melbourne for her.

446
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Speaker 1: So there is a good dad. I don't know, didn't

447
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: nice dad, but yeah, so there is confusion. People are

448
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 1: going to be making sure she's sticking to the rules,

449
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 1: and I just feel for everyone in Melbourne at the moment,

450
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 1: especially for you know, on the weekend receiving the news

451
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 1: that they'll be having another two weeks in complete Stage

452
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: four lockdown and they're having to see this bullshit going on.

453
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: It is really embarrassing for Queensland, especially having it come

454
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 1: out that you know, the AFL is getting preferential treatment,

455
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: and then following that a couple of days later, these

456
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: two Richmond players out drunk at a nightclub. Like you know,

457
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: this is probably not really good for the premier Anastasia's

458
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: bloody campaign, is it. But isn't it just such a

459
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 1: disgusting reflection of society as well that these people have

460
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 1: a high paying job, they have a job in this

461
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: economic time, yet they can't even abide by the generous

462
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 1: rules they've been given. Oh, it's actually sickening, I mean

463
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: to be honest, the fact that the AFL was even

464
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 1: allowed to go ahead with all this going on, It

465
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: just shows what a bloody boys club is. And actually

466
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Speaker 1: discuss me. I'm sort of torn with the whole AFL

467
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: season going ahead because one, I think it is good

468
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: for some people's mental health, the fact that the football

469
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: is still on the television and as Gil said, it

470
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 1: is keeping a lot of people in jobs. But I

471
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: think it also highlights just how unfair society is. Yeah,

472
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: but how can they the AFL cry as poor yet

473
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 1: they're pouring three million dollars a week into these hubs,

474
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: because imagine how many advertising dollars they're going to get

475
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: for that AFL Grand Final. Everyone's going to be probably

476
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 1: still at home in Melbourne watching it. I mean, how

477
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: come there are other big businesses that could be earning

478
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: money that have got these rules against them, Like, it

479
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 1: doesn't really seem fair. It's just complete favoritism to the AFL,

480
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: and it just shows how wrong this system is. I

481
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: doubt the government will be helping other smaller sports in

482
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: the way that they've helped the AFL. No way I mean,

483
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: And I tend to completely agree with you, k I

484
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: do not think the season should have gone ahead. I

485
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 1: think it was a complete mistake to go ahead. It

486
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: kind of sent the wrong message, particularly to the community

487
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: in Victoria. It's not the AFL's fault, but you know,

488
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: if the AFL is running, you kind of think, oh, well,

489
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: things must be okay. Well, just to wrap this up,

490
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: I found it very interesting to read a news article

491
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: saying that mad Monday is now banned. So for those

492
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: who aren't futy fads, mad Monday is the day when

493
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: clubs celebrate the end of the season, which is usually

494
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: a big Pierce up in costumes, so it's very big

495
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: of them to cancel that celebration. It's because they're so

496
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: scared about what the players will do, because they know

497
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: they can't control them. Knowing athletes, they will have their

498
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: own mad money. Yeah, it's going to go off. We

499
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Speaker 1: want to hear what your opinion is on the AFO

500
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Speaker 1: Hub situation, so we'll be putting up a post in

501
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Speaker 1: our Facebook community, which has outspoken the podcast community. We'd

502
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: love to hear your thoughts, so you can jump on

503
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: there and join in the conversation.

504
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Speaker 3: So I just waiting for our taxi and Michael literally

505
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 3: just asks the best question, you know how He's like

506
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: really good with geography and all of that good stuff.

507
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: He's like, don't film this, but can I ask your

508
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 3: own question? He said, are we like still in the

509
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: world like that little blue ball?

510
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: Are we like there?

511
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, yeah, Bally.

512
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Speaker 2: Is in ear.

513
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Speaker 1: Now let's get into our social snapshot segment now. To

514
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Speaker 1: start us off, I have to say we were very

515
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: very wrong about Rees and London's baby situation last week.

516
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: That's Reese Hawkins for anyone that doesn't know London. Yes,

517
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Speaker 1: so Reese Hawkins and his new fiance London announced that

518
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: they were in fact pregnant, and in doing so, it

519
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: was quite strange. London decided that she's not going to

520
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: be sharing any baby bump updates on her Instagram. In fact,

521
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: she's pushing fans to a new platform, which was only fans.

522
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: Can you imagine growing up and realizing that your parents

523
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: had announced that you were being born on OnlyFans. Well,

524
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: it's quite strange to share those sorts of updates on

525
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: a platform that's quite renowned for porn. I mean, I

526
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: did think, I wonder if this will be a new

527
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: thing that people will start doing. I do recall just

528
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 1: into Franklin making her own app to share her updates,

529
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Speaker 1: which I don't think was very popular. Wow, that's next level,

530
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: was yeah. So the funny thing is, though, after London

531
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Speaker 1: and Reese made the announcement, people believe that Tammy Hembro

532
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: was throwing shade. So Tammy's, of course Reese Hawkins's ex

533
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Speaker 1: and baby mother, so she was apparently use a baby

534
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: mother or baby I kind of mumbled it. I wasn't

535
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Speaker 1: sure if anyone noticed that baby mama. So Tammy shared

536
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Speaker 1: a video of herself miming to the song Pressure in

537
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Speaker 1: My Palms, where the lyrics included I hate a bitch

538
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Speaker 1: who think a baby. I can't even like read the

539
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,239
Speaker 1: rest of it, but basically she hates her and I

540
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: hate you hope was the lyrics. On the side, there

541
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: was another rude word that I didn't decuch rule. We

542
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Speaker 1: kind of delved into it when we did our discussion

543
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Speaker 1: on Reese Hawkins about the fact that a lot of

544
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: fans don't like her because she was leaving comments on

545
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Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro's posts years ago about her family saying I

546
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Speaker 1: love your little family. That was so weird, how embarrassing. Well,

547
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Tammy also threw shade at Reese on Father's Day and

548
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: she put a selfie of her and Saskia and wrote

549
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: Happy Father's Day to all the single mammas and boss

550
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: bitches doing it all. And then London was quick to

551
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Speaker 1: respond with a folk of Reese and Tammy and his

552
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: two kids saying best Daddy. So it was quite interesting

553
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: to see the back and forth on social media. Well,

554
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: moving on to Chloe Zepp, did anyone see the push

555
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: present that Mitchell orvill bought her? Well, it was really

556
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: hard to miss the huge diamond blingy bracelet with a

557
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: little a on it. It was beautiful. I think all

558
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: women should get a push present. I love this idea. Well,

559
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Speaker 1: I don't think men really even know what it is.

560
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: I only really know what it is from yummy mummies.

561
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: I know from keeping up with So it's really you

562
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: know those mega rich people and they usually get like

563
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: a beautiful Porsche or something for that. So is it normal?

564
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Speaker 1: Because people go into our community and tell us if

565
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Speaker 1: you've ever got a push present?

566
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Speaker 2: God, our mum should have got three push press she

567
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: should have.

568
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Speaker 1: Got the whole jewelry shop.

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Speaker 2: Well she didn't.

570
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Speaker 1: Actually, do you still get it if you don't push

571
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Speaker 1: them out?

572
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Speaker 2: I think so.

573
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Speaker 1: I'm sure what about the nine months of carrying it

574
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Speaker 1: and the horrendous azari Well, I'll put it out there

575
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Speaker 1: to Brandon if we ever have children together, I expect

576
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Speaker 1: a push present. Yeah, maybe not a diamond encrusted bracelet.

577
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: What would you accept though? I think a nice ring

578
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: like an internity ring or something.

579
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Speaker 2: Is that would you give up before you? I just

580
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: think something that's.

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Speaker 1: Thoughtful, Yeah, something thought you'll enjoy. I think something like

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Speaker 1: I liked the fact that the bracelet had the little

583
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Speaker 1: A for artists on it, I think if it was

584
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Speaker 1: something thoughtful and sentiment sentimental. Yeah, okay, there's another thing

585
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: that I've been obsessed with looking at on my news

586
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: feed this week, and it has to be Shanny Grimman's lip.

587
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

588
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: I have been religiously checking her inster story for the update,

589
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: religiously checking it. Yes, yes, religiously. So I've never heard

590
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Speaker 1: about how they Actually i've heard of it, but I.

591
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: Didn't know the reaction that happens when they do it.

592
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: So basically, it was worse than when Sky Weekly got

593
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: her lips tattooed. So basically, her lips blew up even more.

594
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. She looked like a cartoon character.

595
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: But I don't know for putting it online, but that

596
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: was the weirdest thing. So she put her lips completely

597
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: blown up, looking weird after she got it on, But

598
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: then she kept hiding her face once her lips had

599
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: gone back to normal. I know, but wouldn't you be

600
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: self conscious if they were blown up like a puffer fils? Yeah?

601
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: I know. It's everyone each to their own preference, but

602
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: I think she looks so much better with the mouse,

603
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: so much younger and normal. And what's really interesting though,

604
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: is she was talking about how it was a bad

605
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: injector that had injected them too high up above her.

606
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: I think what happened is that the film migrated so

607
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't actually put in properly. Well, Sharni has said

608
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: that she is going to go and get her lips

609
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: done again. But do you think that we're going to

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Speaker 1: see more of a trend of influencers who are reversing

611
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: their beauty procedures. Well, we saw Lily Brown do it

612
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago on YouTube and then of

613
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: course she got it all redone. I don't know I

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00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: would have I actually would have loved it, And it's

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00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Shiny's choice, and you know it's her choice to make,

616
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: but I would have loved it if she did keep

617
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: her normal lips, like, not normal, her natural lips is

618
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: the right word, because she looks really good and I

619
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: think it would be really nice for others to see

620
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: her embrace something that she might not like about herself. Well,

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Speaker 1: the next story is about Sarah's Day's Father's Day gift

622
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: to her partner, Kurt, and this was sent to us

623
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Speaker 1: quite a number of times over the weekend. I've got

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Speaker 1: to say, I was scrolling through my newsfeed driving to

625
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: Reese's dad's house and I literally went, oh my gosh

626
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 1: and turned it to him and Reese couldn't believe it.

627
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: This is, of course a photo of Kurt with his

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00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: son Fox and the didury do. Now So says he

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00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: gave Kert a didury do for Father's Day. And this

630
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: is off the back of all the controversy surrounding her

631
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: White Fox attivewear line drop, where she was accused of

632
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: cultural appropriation. Yeah. So after that happened, and I know

633
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: we've discussed it in depth on the podcast, she vowed

634
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: to educate herself on Indigenous matters as well as the

635
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matters movement. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like she

636
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: really has because I looked at it and immediately thought,

637
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: this is really offense. The thing that I thought when

638
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: I saw it was Yes, I was shocked that they

639
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: would put something up like that. I think they're very

640
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: naive when it comes to these things. But at the

641
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: same time, I don't think the intention was a nasty

642
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: or negative one. I think the intention was Recently, they

643
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: have also been purchasing a lot of Aboriginal artwork which

644
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: she has been proudly showing on her Instagram account, and

645
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: I think that she thought that she was somewhat celebrating

646
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: Aboriginal art and music by giving this as a gift.

647
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: But as many people pointed out, it wasn't actually sourced

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Speaker 1: from an Aboriginal person, so I think that that's also

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Speaker 1: how did they know where it was sourced. I think

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Speaker 1: she shared where it was sourced from. And Kurt also

651
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Speaker 1: shared a post which was from an old ABC article

652
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Speaker 1: reiterating the fact that other cultures can play the didgerido,

653
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Speaker 1: except it was from twenty thirteen, its not a new article.

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Speaker 1: The most disappointing thing is the fact that there were

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Speaker 1: lots of moderating going on in Kurt's comments, and he

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Speaker 1: also apparently changed the action which previously didn't mention that

657
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Speaker 1: he was proud and excited to be learning about Indigenous culture.

658
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Speaker 1: I think also what people get fired up about is

659
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Speaker 1: the fact, as I said, the comments get so moderated,

660
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Speaker 1: so a lot of Indigenous people were actually explaining why

661
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Speaker 1: this is culturally insensitive, but Kirk kept deleting the comments,

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Speaker 1: which he and Sarah are quite renowned for doing. As

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Speaker 1: you both mentioned, I was shocked when I saw the picture,

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Speaker 1: and I just thought, even though they presumably think that

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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with what they're doing, and they think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, they've researched it, and in their minds they've gone, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is great, We're celebrating indigenous culture. The issue is

668
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Speaker 1: it just looked so wrong, and especially following their controversy,

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Speaker 1: why would you post that but you say that they've

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Speaker 1: educated themselves when they clearly haven't. They clearly haven't done

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Speaker 1: the education because if they had, they would know that

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Speaker 1: not to do that. But I think they thought that, oh, wow,

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Speaker 1: we'll put up this photo of Kurt with the didgerid,

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Speaker 1: and they seem to think that people would go, oh,

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Speaker 1: it was very tokenistic, and that's the whole thing. I

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Speaker 1: think if it had been educated properly, well, I think

677
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Speaker 1: what this issue has highlighted, as well as the recent

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Speaker 1: situation with Adele when she was accused of cultural appropriation

679
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Speaker 1: for wearing a Jamaican outfit, I think it's really evident

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Speaker 1: that so many people feel a different way about it.

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Speaker 1: There were some Jamaican people that were really excited that

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Speaker 1: Adele was wearing it and celebrating their culture, and they

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Speaker 1: saw it as cultural appreciation, not cultural appropriation. So I

684
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Speaker 1: think it's really interesting to take a look at how

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Speaker 1: Aboriginal people are reacting to this, and it has caused

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Speaker 1: a lot of Aboriginal people to jump online and say

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Speaker 1: they aren't happy with it, whilst some have said no,

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Speaker 1: we're glad you're celebrating our culture. So there's really a

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Speaker 1: range of different emotions that this photo has brought about,

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Speaker 1: and I think it is important that we let Indigenous

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Speaker 1: people and people of color actually lead those conversations. Is

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Speaker 1: not for us to decide if it's offensive. So, as

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Speaker 1: you said, it is interesting that there is not a

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Speaker 1: set answer within those communities, and the best thing is

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Speaker 1: to just keep all of those comments in there so

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Speaker 1: people can educate themselves by looking at the comments and going, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: says this person's for this person's against the picture, and

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Speaker 1: that's I suppose how change happens, and that's how people

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Speaker 1: understand issues a lot better. But you can't be censoring

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Speaker 1: in the comment, that's right. You can't be silencing those

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Speaker 1: voices who were disagreeing with what you said, because it's

702
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Speaker 1: all about educating ourselves. So just a little change of pace,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if this is going to be a

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Speaker 1: completely new segment that it's where's Madison Wooly? Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: our new segment is where is Madison Wooly holidaying this week?

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Speaker 1: And this week she's holidaying in Threadfow. And we did

707
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Speaker 1: touch on it last week that Jonathan Sower, her boyfriend,

708
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Speaker 1: did ask his followers where they should stay in Threadbow.

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Speaker 1: Now this comes despite us criticizing her tone deaf behavior

710
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Speaker 1: to travel during the pandemic. Well, to be fair, it

711
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Speaker 1: is within New South Wales, which is allowed.

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Speaker 2: So that's good.

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Speaker 1: But we'll keep you up today if she pops up

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Speaker 1: anywhere else next week she finds ourselves in the Gold

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Speaker 1: Coast Hub or something like that. I just remember back

716
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: in the day, those who perhaps are in their late

717
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: twenties and thirties might remember a segment on Rove where

718
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Speaker 1: they used to send was it Peter Hallier and Carrie

719
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Speaker 1: they used to send them out? Oh, it was Kareem

720
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Speaker 1: Grants and Karein Grant out to Australia and they have

721
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Speaker 1: a little magnet of where she'd been, where she created

722
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Speaker 1: one of Madison Wooey, all the different points of Australia

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Speaker 1: she visits and a little luxury. Was that place luxury pilot? Hmmm, Pierre, Yeah,

724
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Speaker 1: that could sponsor it? Yeah, good, I do you might

725
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Speaker 1: get in touch.

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Speaker 4: I think of the most frequent assumption I got worse about,

727
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Speaker 4: like my parents and money and stuff like that, and

728
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Speaker 4: a lot of people are really interested in that, and

729
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Speaker 4: I'm just like, yo, that's so rude.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into the reality rap. And we experienced our

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Speaker 1: first love in Lockdown on the bachelott and I, for one,

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Speaker 1: actually really enjoyed it. What did you guys think? Well,

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Speaker 1: I personally love the fact that they had the cocktail

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Speaker 1: party and the rose ceremony on Zoom and all the

735
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Speaker 1: women still dressed up for it, which I.

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Speaker 2: Thought was hilarious.

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Speaker 1: What about how Locky had one row so he kept

738
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Speaker 1: having to put it down and then repicking it back up.

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Speaker 1: That's budget, that's budget Channel ten food. What I really

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Speaker 1: liked is I feel like so many young people at

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Speaker 1: home could have related to the whole day via zoom

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Speaker 1: or FaceTime. Situation. Yeah, it is very relatable, and it

743
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Speaker 1: was kind of weird to be a fly on the

744
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: wall in that situation when he I don't actually know

745
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: the girl's name, but he took that blonde girl on

746
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: the date in the bar that was so awkward, and

747
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: because he kept like being really sleazy and like he

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00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: flashed his bum on there. There's a point it was

749
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Speaker 1: on battery. Funny. Someone screenshot at the screen and you

750
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: can almost see like a floppy dick. But do you

751
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: know what it got me thinking? It was really weird

752
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: because it's so obvious that the film crew are in

753
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Speaker 1: the house filming all the interviews and the dates. So

754
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Speaker 1: why can the film crew be there but them not

755
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Speaker 1: go on a date with Lockie? Like, it didn't really

756
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: make sense because they've got to be in their home state.

757
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: The only allowed one person over. But couldn't they do

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00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: a hub like they have filled the AFO. Oh yeah,

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00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: they should have brought a bachelor hub. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: do you reckon because they're dating him on zoom and FaceTime,

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Speaker 1: he's less desirable. Well, I feel like the fact that

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00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: it was revealed that they can actually talk whenever they

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Speaker 1: want to and have that contact via phone. I feel

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Speaker 1: like that will build the relationship up stronger because, as

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00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: you know, in the normal bachelor house, all of those

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00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: things are taken from them. Well, I think a lot

767
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: of girls were crushed because there were some that hadn't

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Speaker 1: even spoken to him at all, and the girls were like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what you've been hearing? And then one of the girls like,

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00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: I hear from him every day. It did make me

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Speaker 1: think about On the So Dramatic podcast, she said something

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Speaker 1: about how the girls were pressured by the producers to

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00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: sext Lockie, and it made me think that that definitely

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Speaker 1: would have been the case. Like, I was just getting

775
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: some vibes from his interactions, especially on the bath date.

776
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: Is he just taking that one dick pick and then

777
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: setting it to everyone? Is that what's happening to do that?

778
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Speaker 1: It's funny though, because it made me think like there's

779
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Speaker 1: probably a lot of instances where guys and girls are

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00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: texting multiple people during the pandemic, but the others just

781
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: don't know about it, whereas the other girls were like

782
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: taking notes on how many times he text and called.

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Speaker 1: Something funny that came out about Lockie this week is

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Speaker 1: he was apparently having tantrums on set, and it was

785
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: because he was so irritated and annoyed that all the

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00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: girls that he didn't like kept coming up and interrupting

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00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: conversations with the girls. He wanted to spend more time

788
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: with that would be annoying, and he reportedly yelled at

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Speaker 1: one of the producers to get them away from me

790
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: and walked out of the cocktail party. He was then

791
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: gone for several hours, and when he returned he acted

792
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: like nothing happened. How awkward if you were those girls

793
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: just puck off or He was criticized by a lot

794
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: of the girls because apparently he wasn't dividing up his

795
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: time fairly and would spend time with some and barely

796
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: any time with others. But I mean, that's just dating,

797
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: isn't it. Like I wouldn't want to spend time with

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Speaker 1: people I didn't like. You would rather that than be

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Speaker 1: strung along. Now, Amy, to wrap us up, You've got

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Speaker 1: a reality recommendation for everyone, Yes, I have got a recommendation.

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Speaker 1: It's on Netflix and it's called twenty one Again and

802
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: it's set in the UK, and it's a reality show

803
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: where a group of mothers get to rewind the time

804
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: and become twenty one again. So basically they have a

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00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: huge makeover to see if they can trick people that

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Speaker 1: they are twenty one and their daughters help in the process, and.

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Speaker 2: It is so good.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised. I saw a little bit obvious. Amy

809
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: Fuss forwarded and was showing us bits and they didn't

810
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: look twenty one. Well, the thing they looked pretty gooarly. Really,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think they did, okay. The thing that I

812
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: thought was so bizarre was like, oh wow, the mom's

813
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: had such a transformation because they're so old. One of

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00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: the moms was thirty two, so a year older than us,

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Speaker 1: like a twenty one year old, and sixteen. Most of

816
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: the kids aren't actually twenty one, so that's a bit

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00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: of a catch. But I thought the mums looked better

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00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: than the daughters. But I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who listen to this who like it because they

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00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: delve into the influencer lifestyle, so they make their moms

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Speaker 1: become influencers and they introduce them to social media and

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Speaker 1: it's actually really funny. So I'd highly recommend it. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that's all we've got time for today. If

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Speaker 1: you did enjoy the podcast, we'd love if you could

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Speaker 1: your Insta story and tag us. We'd also love to

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Speaker 1: community and there's always chats going on in there, particularly

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Speaker 1: about the episodes we've just dropped.

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