1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Time poor parent who just wants answers. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 2: Now. They told me that sometimes they feel rejected. They 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: feel mostly accepted, but every now and again they feel rejected. 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: And it was just that. 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: I guess uppercut was like the little punch to the 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: chops that reminded me that it's really hard to get 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: this right all the time. 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mum 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: and dad. 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: Well, the countdown to school holidays is on. In fact, 13 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: in Queensland, a whole lot of schools, including the public 14 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: school just down the road from us, on holidays already, 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: our kids, they're breathing a sigh of relief for the 16 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: next six weeks. No more school I think New South Wales, Victoria, 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: most states have got two weeks to go today, Kylie, 18 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: But I guess things are started to slow down, class parties. 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you about something from a 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: school not far from us, Budroom on the Sunshine Coast. 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 2: There was a news article that appeared just recently that 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: caught my eye. I thought, oh my goodness, what's going 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: on here? Sunshine Coast Primary school cracks down on candy 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: canes in Christmas cards a Sunshine Coast school. According to 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: ABC dot AU news site, these requesting parents refrained from 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: including candy canes in Christmas cards. Budroom Mountain State School 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: Deputy Principal Michael Allen send an email with the request 28 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: to all parents, saying we have a lot of parents 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: who do not wish for their children to access lollies 30 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: during the school day. The email cited dental and health 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: concerns for the request, quote, students may start eating them 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: early in the morning, and as they contain a lot 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: of sugar, this is not ideal from a dental high 34 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: giene perspective. As you would also be aware, increased sugar 35 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: levels for some students can affect their ability to make 36 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: appropriate behavior choices and engage productively in learning. If different 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: students bring in cards on different days over the two 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,279 Speaker 2: week periods, students could potentially be receiving and eating candy 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: canes every day. So before we do our old do 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: better tomorrow. I'm curious about your reaction to the hundred 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: Mountain State School request that candy canes not be brought 42 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: into school by the kids for all of their classmates. Yeay, 43 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: or a fair or excessive. Is it like peak twenty 44 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: twenty two or are you kind of cool with it? 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: I think it's a bit of an over reach. You do, yeah, 46 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: I do. Go on, So, I don't do candy canes 47 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: with the. 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: Kids at all because they get so many of them anyway, No, because. 49 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: They don't like them. But you're not a home with 50 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: all of these candy cakes that they don't like or 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: they don't want. And lots of children don't like peppermint 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: flavored candy. And because obviously we try really hard to 53 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: not I guess encourage candy. Over the years, I found 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: different ways to do things. So one year I just 55 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: did super dupers, but I didn't freeze them, so they 56 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: had to go home. 57 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: I remember that. 58 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: But the old it worked for the younger kids, But 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: the older kids they're really clever, right, They just hoed 60 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: into it and just drank it. 61 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: Can you imagine drinking a warm so they people work 62 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: for the older kids, but for the younger kids, and 63 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: did it delayed and met Mum and dad got to 64 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: decide when and how they received it. That's so creative, though, 65 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: Can I just pause on that? Like you've said it 66 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: so flippantly, But if we don't want to just do 67 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: what everyone else is doing. We can still do something 68 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: fun and sending a little Christmas card with a zuper 69 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: duper and these kids were stoked. 70 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: And they just made a little take that said thanks 71 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: for helping make twenty twenty one or whatever it was 72 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: Zooper duperrols. Yeah, you know, just fun little things because 73 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: our children naturally want to give, and so that's actually 74 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: been the joy of the Christmas lead up with the 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: kids is working out what they can give to their friends. 76 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: So this year Miss eight found elf on the shelf. Yeah, 77 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: she's been watching all of her friends and you know 78 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: all the talk about it, and she really really wanted one. 79 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: And thankfully we were in the junk shop, so it 80 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: wasn't your trademarked elf on the shelf. Doonet cost me 81 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: a few dollars. 82 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: I didn't know that they were expensive. I just figured 83 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: that there was some joctive. I do is for an 84 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: elf on the shelf. 85 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: I can't get a boy or a girl anyway, I digress. 86 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: So she wanted this elf on the shelf. So I 87 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: said to her, the only way we could have an 88 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: elf on the shelf as if she was Sanda's helper, 89 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: which she readily agreed to. Okay, But while we were there, 90 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: we found these little straws, curly straws with two little 91 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: olves giving each other a hug, and I thought, how 92 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: cool to give your friends something that's a bit christmasy, 93 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: but it doesn't really contain any sugar. So this year 94 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: she gave them little straws with two little olts on them. 95 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: And what I love about what you've said is the creativity. 96 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: So you're a little you're suggesting that the school is 97 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: a little bit over the top. In suggesting this, I'm 98 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: actually kind of sympathetic to it because I don't want 99 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: my kids eating excessive junk food. Those candy cane I mean, 100 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: the quality of that food. It's not even food, it's 101 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: just a pauing. 102 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: Well, I guess after reading that sugar book, it's just 103 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: highlighted pretty much most of the lunch boxes have. 104 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: Fully full of sugar. 105 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: Anyways, as well, we're getting upset about, you know, the 106 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: things that we know are full of sugar, but we're 107 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: actually oblivious to all the hidden sugar in out children 108 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: are eating every day of the week. 109 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think I'm with you mostly though, And 110 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 2: that is I reckon. It's a little bit harsh primary 111 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: school kids. Like you said, they want to give. But 112 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: I love what you've said in that we can just 113 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: be creative. Whether it's thanks for a Zooper DOOPI year 114 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: or the straws or whatever it might be. There are 115 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: so many different ways that we can give out cards 116 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: and give a little treat of some kind that may 117 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: or may not contain sugary stuff. But at the end 118 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: of the day, I also think they're kids, right, Like 119 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: they're kids. They're going to eat so much sugar and crappy, junkie, 120 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: rubbishy stuff over the next few weeks. What does it 121 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: really matter if they get stuck into a few candy 122 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: canes And like you said, they don't really love them 123 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: that much anyway, do they, although they still eat them. 124 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: They did the article acknowledge the divide in the community. 125 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like most parents sort of strugg their shoulder. 126 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: So there's a dietician at the school who got right 127 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: behind and said, yeah, absolutely, it's a good thing. And 128 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: there are a few parents like, oh, it's a bit 129 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: of a shame, but yeah, whatever, So I don't think 130 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: anyone's really up in arms. It didn't make front page 131 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: headlines or anything. But it caught my attention just because 132 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: it's one of those things where as we're becoming more 133 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: health conscious, more environmentally conscious, as the community, as our 134 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: society is looking for ways that we can improve the 135 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: world and improve humanity and improve ourselves. Candy canes at 136 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: Christmas in schools the next time the chopping block, and 137 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: I thought it was worthy of note. We'd love to 138 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: know what you think podcasts as podcasts with an s 139 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 2: at Happy Families dot com. Dot U has Budroom Mountain 140 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: States called gone too far or do you reckon? It's 141 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: fair enough? We would love to know your thoughts. Now. 142 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: Every Friday, we have an episode called I'll Do Better 143 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: Tomorrow where we analyze the week that was and try 144 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: to work out if we can be better parents. So 145 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: if we're doing it really well, kicking goals doing let's 146 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: just nailing our parenting, and Kylie, what's your I'll do 147 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: better Tomorrow for the week that was? 148 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: Well? Without you knowing it, your lead into today's podcast 149 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: is actually a beautiful segue for my I'll do Better Tomorrow? Okay, 150 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: It really is just about celebrating the small wins that 151 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: we have so often, I know, I personally get so 152 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: caught up in the day to day running of family 153 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 1: life that I often miss those little gems, these little 154 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: moments where if I just took a few deep breaths, 155 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: I could see just how much progress has actually taken place. 156 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: So Christmas is one hundred percent my favorite celebration of 157 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: the year. Probably Valentine's would be my next. And I 158 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: love doing things with the kids, and they love being 159 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: able to give things to their friends and their teachers, 160 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: and so it kind of becomes a whole production for 161 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: a few days and weeks in early November to try 162 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: and get it all worked out with them. But Miss 163 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: em she's eight, and usually she gets quite bored. She's 164 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: excited in the beginning, and then I ask her to 165 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: help and she kind of rolls her eyes and like, oh, 166 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: can I come back later, And by the time she 167 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: comes back, I'm done because I'm wan a roll. And 168 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: so this year I said to her, she wanted to 169 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: give to four different teachers. So she has two teachers 170 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: in her classrooms, but then she has a teacher aide, 171 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: did a couple of teacher aids that come in, And 172 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: so I said to WILLI are you going to write 173 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: letters to them, and she said yeah, And I said, 174 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: would you like some help? And she said, if you 175 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: could just write the big words out so that I 176 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: can copy those. And I said, well, if you just 177 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: do a template, you could write the same letter for 178 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: every teacher and just change the name to make it easy. Well, 179 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: she didn't take the easy road this year. Normally she 180 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: doesn't actually write the cards at all. She'll just do 181 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: love Emily and maybe draw a picture next to it. 182 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: But this year she was really thoughtful about the teachers 183 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: and the things that they had done for her, and 184 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: she actually personalized each letter, each little card for them 185 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: and filmed them up and then drew a picture that 186 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: she thought that teacher would love, so they were all different. 187 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: It's such a small thing, but it was just so 188 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: beautiful to see her giving heart to developing and growing 189 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: and her recognition that it's not a cookie cutter gift. 190 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: This is something that she wanted her teacher to know 191 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: specifically for her personalized that was important. Yeah, that's great 192 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: stuff and I just loved it. But, like I said, 193 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: because sometimes we just get caught up in it and 194 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: we actually can miss those little moments. And for me, 195 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: that was just a beautiful moment and little insight into 196 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: her heart and how it's maturing and growing. 197 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. So my older better tomorrow. Fairly brief, but 198 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: a bit of a reminder. So on Monday, I was 199 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,359 Speaker 2: on ABC Radio Western Australia having a conversation with the 200 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: presenter about what happens when our children feel accepted and 201 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: what happens when our children feel rejected by us and 202 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: the different ways that we can unintentionally create an environment 203 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: where they feel rejected. Really great conversation, lots and lots 204 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: of things to talk about there. But after I got 205 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: off the phone, I had the interview with two of 206 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: our kids, our fifteen year old and a twelve year 207 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 2: old in the car. They've been listening to the whole interview. 208 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: So I sat down in the living room once we've 209 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: gotten home and the interview was over, and I said, hey, 210 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: I'm just curious you heard what I was talking about. 211 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you are unconditionally accepted or do 212 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 2: you sometimes feel rejected? And they told me that sometimes 213 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: they feel rejected, not often, but sometimes they feel mostly accepted, 214 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: but every now and again they feel rejected. And it 215 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: was just that that I guess uppercut was like they 216 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: little punch to the chops that reminded me that it's 217 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: really hard to get this right all the time. Every 218 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: now and again we have to correct our kids, but 219 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: their feelings of acceptance are fragile and they can be 220 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: shattered really easily when we step in with too much correction, 221 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: when we override their autonomy, When we make comments to 222 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: them about what they're doing, or how they're doing, or 223 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: why they need to do things better, they can internalize 224 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: that as I'm not worthy, I'm insufficient, they can feel rejected. 225 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: And so my older better tomorrow is to work harder 226 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: on that unconditional acceptance, to move away from rejection and 227 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: move more towards acceptance so that they know, no matter what, 228 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: that they are accepted. Really short, really simple, but a 229 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: really important reminder I think about why that matters. If 230 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: people are interested in finding out more about that, there's 231 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,599 Speaker 2: an entire chapter in my book twenty one Days to 232 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: a Happier Family, including a checklist, or you can go 233 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: back about a week, week and a bit on our 234 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: Facebook page where there's a whole lot of beautiful graphics 235 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: up there, and on Instagram as well, about a week 236 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: ago talking about whether we're rejecting or accepting. So that's it. 237 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: That's a little better tomorrow for Friday, December the second. 238 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening to the Happy Families podcasts. 239 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: We really appreciate the work of Justin Rulan from Bridge 240 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: Media and Craig Bruce, our executive producer, for making the 241 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: podcast sound great, and we really appreciate you. Thank you 242 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: so much for listening on Monday. With Christmas just around 243 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: the corner, when should kids get a phone? Is there 244 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: a golden rule, a perfect age? We're going to be 245 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: discussing that and a whole lot more on the Happy 246 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 2: Families podcast. Thanks so much for listening, and have a 247 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: great weekend.