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Speaker 1: Get a.

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Speaker 2: I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional overshaer.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe

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Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face

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Speaker 2: our blind spots.

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Speaker 1: Each week, I'll interview a different guest about their.

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Speaker 2: Highs as well as their loads, all in a bid

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Speaker 2: to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: I feel like today's episode is really like sitting down

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Speaker 2: with a mate. Jo Hey Diaz is awesome. He's an

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Speaker 2: actor and voice actor. You'll actually get a little taste

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Speaker 2: of some of his voice acting because he naturally it's

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Speaker 2: just part of him.

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Speaker 1: He can't not do like little bits and voices.

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Speaker 2: He does loads of animation and you can hear kind

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Speaker 2: of like the variety. Even in today's chat, we talk

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Speaker 2: about also why he acts, and he's been doing this

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Speaker 2: since he was like thirteen, and he talks about like

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Speaker 2: his purpose behind it and why he loves it and

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Speaker 2: what his goals are for the future. It was just

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Speaker 2: so nice to sit down with a really humble, talented,

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Speaker 2: working actor and voice actor who's based here in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: He gave so much of his time, his heart and

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Speaker 2: he's a really really sweet human being. And I feel

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Speaker 2: lucky because I get to call him a friend. All Right,

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Speaker 2: I hope you love this chat.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Oh you are absolutely wonderful. Welcome to the pod.

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Speaker 1: You're r oo Hi Diaz, mate, welcome to the pod.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you for having me. This is Oh, this

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Speaker 3: is fun.

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Speaker 2: I was just saying, I was so excited about this

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Speaker 2: pod because it feels like I'll be interviewing a mate.

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Speaker 3: Oh we've hung out, yes, But you also have that personality.

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Speaker 3: You have that personality where like instantly you feel like

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Speaker 3: like I've known you forever and the feeling.

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Speaker 2: Is the feeling is mutual. And a big shout out

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Speaker 2: to our mutual friend child.

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Speaker 3: That's a special little human. I love them so much.

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Speaker 2: So you, my friend, have done a lot of amazing things.

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Speaker 2: So actor voice, what do we call it voice?

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Speaker 1: I have active voice.

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Speaker 3: Voice actor voice.

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Speaker 2: I spent I reckon three nearly three hours yesterday. So

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Speaker 2: much of the animation stuff you've done is on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: No way, I don't even know this. And even when

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Speaker 3: you told me there was like some interview on it,

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Speaker 3: I was like why, I was like, what's on?

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Speaker 1: Oh? My goodness so much. That's when I was texting.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this is like amazing

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Speaker 2: because I would so First of all, what I did

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Speaker 2: was I would watch what I what I knew you

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Speaker 2: were in, and I'd try and guess which character you were,

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Speaker 2: and then I'd check is it IMDb. I checked that

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Speaker 2: to double check that I got the characters right, nailed it.

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Speaker 1: Every time, I was like, got it.

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Speaker 3: That's I know, because I have a generic little kid voice.

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Speaker 3: When they had me do like little kids, I was like,

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Speaker 3: I was like, this might sound like that other character,

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Speaker 2: No, I feel like you did. I feel like each

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Speaker 2: time I was like, I don't know. I've got to

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Speaker 2: say anyway, I loved soaking up all your animation stuff.

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Speaker 2: And then you're like, do you want to see my my,

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Speaker 2: my comedy and drama reals, And I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the comedy.

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Speaker 1: Stuff like so funny. Oh, you have to tell me.

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Speaker 2: What was it like working on The Good Place with

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Speaker 2: like the iconic it's Kristin Beler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kristen Bell. She was so sweet. And I still

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Speaker 3: I with that whole story was crazy because I auditioned

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Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, You're not, Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm not Asian. Yeah, Mexican American.

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Speaker 1: Mexican American first generations.

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Speaker 3: she was really sweet about yeah, yeah, super lovely. But

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Speaker 3: I've run into a bunch of the cast, and I

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Speaker 3: They're really sweet. Yeah. Yeah, so I just did that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so hang on, that's pretty nerve wracking though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a scenario that we haven't seen in

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Speaker 2: Well, you were very funny and even the garbage been

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Speaker 3: I think because I was such a goofy kid growing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and your energy is like so light and fun

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what about So before I move on to something,

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Speaker 3: Why don't you know, why don't you still do that?

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Speaker 2: I was like no, and you go, you're doing freaking awesome,

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Speaker 2: Like you're doing so so wow. So can we talk

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Speaker 2: about like one of your dreams has always been to

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Speaker 3: I guess so because I always did a bunch of

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Speaker 3: So I based it on one of my fake ants.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I don't understand Grandma. He's like Martillo, Miko

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Speaker 3: She was the younger sister on the Elena's younger sister

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Speaker 1: It the is it there? That wasn't the Paranormal Activity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And I literally shot like we shot that movie

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Speaker 2: So my next question was when I watched your dramatic real.

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Speaker 2: So where does your heartlight? Like do you love doing like?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good acting, Yeah, And I feel like there has

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Speaker 3: But then I me and my wife are like, you know,

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Speaker 2: You guys are one thousand per Yeah, we're gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: Why I always like that. I mean, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: Then I'm like connected to yourself, connected to myself and.

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Speaker 3: Something greater than me. Yeah, And I feel I'm constantly

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Speaker 2: That would make you a better actor too, because you've

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Speaker 1: And that's where it makes sense that drama would fill

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're honoring like this art form and this craft.

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00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 3: That makes sense. I love the way you put that

435
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 3: because maybe I'm always trying to find the words to

436
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,439
Speaker 3: describe that, but maybe I think that's exactly what it is.

437
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 1: I think it's human connection because I'm.

438
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 3: Always looking for that and I love I kind of

439
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,919
Speaker 3: see people as their ten year old self. Yeah, and

440
00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 3: I think my wife Lola ar Na Lauren. We've yeah,

441
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 3: so that's so funny called Lola Bear sometimes I'm gonna

442
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 3: and so yeah, I feel like we see people as

443
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 3: their ten year old self. So like I was like, ah,

444
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, that's just the front they grew up. Like, oh,

445
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,359
Speaker 3: they're just they got hardened, their heart hardened up. It's like, oh,

446
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 3: we kind of see through that, and I see the light.

447
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 3: And I was like, we're just big kids trying to

448
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 3: figure shit out, you know, and we're all still even

449
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 3: dealing with like ship that like patterns that we developed

450
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 3: as kids. And I'm like, oh, but that's not really

451
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 3: you you know, like you know what I'm saying. So

452
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 3: anything that kind of brings brings that awareness in through storytelling,

453
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 3: I really like that's what like sings to my soul.

454
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, my soul goes. I love this story.

455
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 3: Because of that, I learned something about myself and about

456
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 3: being human, about our connection to everybody and everything around us. Yeah.

457
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 2: I always think as well, the cool thing about this vocation,

458
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 2: like this craft or art form is like you say,

459
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 2: someone's like watching a movie or TV show you're in.

460
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 2: You get to connect to the audience's heart and you

461
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 2: have the ability to change someone's heart, like you have

462
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: the ability to like cause a feeling or like think

463
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 2: about when you see your favorite movie or like you

464
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 2: know and you're like, oh, like.

465
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: That just hit me in the heart.

466
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: And I think there's not many other careers other than

467
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: maybe singers would probably get.

468
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: That feeling as well.

469
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you're right.

470
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very going down a very esoteric That.

471
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 3: Makes sense though. That makes sense to me when you

472
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: say that, because I'm like, yeah, because I think that's

473
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 3: what's Yeah.

474
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: I can't have you on this pod without asking.

475
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: You did an add campaign which I saw yesterday on

476
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 2: YouTube with Snoop Dogg.

477
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: Yes, Jack in the.

478
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: Box, right, Jag in the Box he had you know,

479
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: I auditioned for it and I didn't get it initially. No,

480
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 3: And this is like this has never happened.

481
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: Did you play quite the straight character? Don't you like? Guys,

482
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: what are your ideas?

483
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 3: And I audition for another role in that And because

484
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 3: they did a couple spots and it was for his

485
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 3: Munchie meal. So he did a collaboration with Jack in

486
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 3: the Box. Yeah the brownie exact, it's not a weed brownie,

487
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: but you know what I'm saying, Like, it's like it's

488
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 3: his munchie meal like this Snoop Dogg. So I auditioned

489
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: for that. Yeah I didn't get it, and then the

490
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 3: next day he said, hey, uh, keep those days available

491
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 3: because they're looking for a role for you and this

492
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: Oh what No? And I was so bummed because I

493
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 3: really wanted to work with Snoop Dogg. I was like,

494
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: I've never met the guy. I'm like, I don't even

495
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: know what's the small talk to him about? Like what

496
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 3: do you talk about? Wait? You know, I'm like I'm

497
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: just gonna beat this dorky guy and be like hey,

498
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 3: so uh you know what about Long Beach? You know?

499
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 3: Like so I h but it was so fun and

500
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 3: my dream was to kind of like I was like,

501
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, if I get the opportunity to smoke

502
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 3: with them. I rarely smoke anymore, but like.

503
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: I was like that that's once in a lifetime, one

504
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent.

505
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 3: My wife was even like, you know, I'm like, if

506
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: you get a chance to smoke a Snoop Dogg. Leave

507
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: your car there, we'll go pick it up the next day.

508
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'll probably die. But yeah, she's like, I'm

509
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 3: in full support of this. Go make it.

510
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: If he just sat with him in his trial, you

511
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: get like passive smart, you'd just be like, okay, I

512
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: am spinning, I am span How cool was he lovely

513
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: to work with?

514
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: He was lovely. I mean his energy was lovely. I mean,

515
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: mind you, I'm sure he's probably.

516
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: Have a massive entourage.

517
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 3: He did have like like probably like an entarage of

518
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: maybe uh I mean this is including his megabar, maybe

519
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: like six to eight people that's still solid solid. But

520
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 3: he and he has his double that looks exactly like him,

521
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 3: and it's one of his doubles, and that's who we

522
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: basically interacted with all day like he like the double

523
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: was there, and then they set up all the light

524
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: and everything. They're like, okay, we're ready for Snoop Dogg

525
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 3: and then play a song. And it wasn't until like

526
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: the fifth time we go he had entry music entry music,

527
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 3: and we go, We're like, who was playing play it

528
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 3: was playing this? Yeah? It was It was a Ram

529
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 3: like all right, uh, we're ready for suiting and we're like,

530
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 3: is someone playing like entry music? He comes out he's like, hey,

531
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 3: how you doing? Fan? But he arrived literally as soon

532
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: as I got there. He was like right behind me

533
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 3: like two minutes after I signed in, and he's so lovely.

534
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: He's like, what's up Van, how you doing? I was like,

535
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh so man, nice to meet you. That's

536
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 3: meet too, like real sweet, like just like a good energy.

537
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 3: Oh I love that very cool.

538
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: Has the independ anyone that you've worked with, and you're

539
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: like you are a friggin' legend that has like blown

540
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: your blown your way.

541
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: I did, uh well when I Ethan Hawke, I did,

542
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: like h a supporting role in this movie called That,

543
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 3: the actor Logan Marshall Green directed, And I know.

544
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: Logan Marshall Green, how are you talking about?

545
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got a double ganger Tom.

546
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm sure he loves No. They really do look a.

547
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: Like yeah, because I I think your guy Logan was

548
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: in Venom but for Ages.

549
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: I was like, that's surely Tom Hardy like you have to.

550
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, no, but Tom.

551
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: There's some other thing that he did that.

552
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 3: He did this great great mind. I can't even think

553
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: about it was a Blumhouse and he.

554
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: Was talking about Okay, so anyway, okay, so best Hawk.

555
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so he did a movie. Ethan Hawk's the

556
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: lead of it. And Ethan Hawk I've always kind of

557
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 3: admired for and especially even after during that we're shooting

558
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 3: at like and afterwards, up till now, he's been so

559
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: creative and so just artistic. Like he's just like in

560
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: so many projects since then, and he's just I feel

561
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: like he's in this amazing space and I just really

562
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: love him as a person. He was just like and

563
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: as an artist, but he just so lovely. Him and

564
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: his wife were like so lovely, and I was just like, oh,

565
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: you know, I like these people, like these are I

566
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: like working with. He's such an actor, you know, and

567
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 3: such a very chill, very like no ego and that's

568
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 3: the best.

569
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

570
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So I have to ask you about how about

571
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: saying it's right he's lost high am I saying, so

572
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 2: that's on Hulu?

573
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: Right?

574
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? That was the first original Hulu series.

575
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: This is like Barlaide.

576
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, ten years ago?

577
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: How was that looked so fun?

578
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 3: It was? It was so fun, but we had no

579
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: idea it was gonna end up on Hulu, which is crazy.

580
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 3: It was shot in a la yeah, a lot of

581
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 3: nonprofits funded it, and it was it's basically like a

582
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: high school series with kind of like a lesson, you know, like.

583
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: It feels to be hot, break high kind.

584
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 3: Of yeah, like a nine O two one ozer, but

585
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 3: in the hood, you know. And so I I remember

586
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: we shot it during the summer and it was kind

587
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: of like this low budget web series. We didn't know

588
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 3: what was gonna happen with it, and suddenly Hulu picked

589
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,479
Speaker 3: it up and they were like, oh, we're gonna make

590
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: it like the first Hulu original series. And so we're like,

591
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: holy shit, like okay, and it's still on there and

592
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 3: it's uh and it's a cool I mean, I was

593
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: in the first two seasons. I recurred, and then I

594
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: started working I was doing Paranormal and then it's the

595
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: other thing and I couldn't be on it, but I

596
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 3: recurred on it. And my character had this, uh, this

597
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: funny like he would give sex advice. Yeah, funny, it's funny. Yeah.

598
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: But they were the creators were really clever, and the

599
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: producers they they would write like these really funny scripts. Yeah,

600
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 3: it was a lot of fun and I love that

601
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: that whole cast. I still keep in contact with those

602
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: producers and they're just the lovely people. Now.

603
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 2: I don't know if this was from the sitcom, but

604
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: you play like a nerd, a very funny nerd in something.

605
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 3: Well the very first thing I did when I was

606
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: in high school with that, that sitcom that I did, Yeah,

607
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: it was basically.

608
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: Got like a a side combed hair.

609
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 3: Oh wait, well, oh wait was it? No? Because there's

610
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: one when I was like super chunky and I was

611
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: like fourteen years old. That was my first job and

612
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: I was recurring on this like I was playing like

613
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 3: an oracle character. Really, it was based on the sitcom

614
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: one they at a time, which they brought back on Netflix. Yeah,

615
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: but there was a Spanish version and I was in

616
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: love with like that younger sister on the show. But

617
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: that's I played that nerd character. And the one I'm

618
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: trying to think of which one now.

619
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to send it to you.

620
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: I think it's on your comedy Real. I think it's

621
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: Stardi or Comedy Reel.

622
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: Oh that was high and mighty. That was Hi Mighty.

623
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: That was That was another thing that we kind of

624
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: shot over summer. It was like this in Indy little series.

625
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: Literally landed in this like full nerdy Gooba.

626
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 3: But he's not. He's like there's like nerd. There's kind

627
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: of like a little dumb and oblivious and like a

628
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,239
Speaker 3: huge butt head and a drinker. And he's kind of

629
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: this twenty five year old guy who's like in between

630
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 3: that like party phase of his life. Yeah, and like

631
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: really like like coming into adulthood and like, oh shit,

632
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: I got to have to get my shit together, you know.

633
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: And so it's this kind of outrageous like comedy, but

634
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: there's like a heart underneath it all, and it's about

635
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 3: addiction and and it's a good message. It's a good

636
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: message too. Yeah, and hbo En did picking that up

637
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: and then it premiered at sun Dance and.

638
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at you, Look at you? Okay, So.

639
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: What if we were to look into a crystal ball

640
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: right now? Where would you love to be like five

641
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: years from now? Aside from like an Emmy a golden.

642
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: You know what? My I feel like my goals have

643
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: changed like the the last like five ten years. I

644
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: feel when I was younger, I was like, oh I

645
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: can't wait to be on like this show for like

646
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 3: five years and then I'll get nominated for this and

647
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: maybe do this, and not that I still wouldn't want that, right,

648
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: but I would love to be on a show where

649
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 3: I just like, I'm like, I'm obsessed with just playing

650
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: that character and there. I love drama. EDI's because I

651
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: feel life is a drama. Ye.

652
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: Dramedy is my favor.

653
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: Ted Las, yeah, is my ultimate dream, Like an ensemble

654
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: membot on something like ted Last.

655
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: One hundred Yeah, something like that where I love it's hot. Yeah,

656
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: there's hard, but it's funny and it's light, but then

657
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: there's like really serious. I love it, love it. So

658
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 3: something like that and doing I don't know, like maybe

659
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: like you know, it's so funny. I've never said this,

660
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: but like I would love to do a docu series

661
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 3: where I go around maybe parts of the world where

662
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: either I'm behind the scenes doing it and finding like

663
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: like interviewing holistic doctors, finding cures for things, and I

664
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: don't know, something along those lines. I just want to travel.

665
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: I want to, like you got to visit Australia made.

666
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: I have never been. I'm know I'm going to be

667
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: obsessed with this thank you.

668
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: You got to come visit Charlie and I Yeah, I

669
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: love yeah.

670
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: And Byron Bay, Yeah, I shouldn't do an Australian accent

671
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: with Australia.

672
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: A lot of.

673
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: Lives in Byron By. He was all on the Netflix

674
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: hit Shay Byron Bays.

675
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Do you know anyone off bron Back. I was like,

676
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I've got a few friends, yeah, because

677
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: we live there. You know. So funny.

678
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: Your Aussie was good because a lot of the mistakes

679
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: that a lot of Americans make when they try to

680
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: do an Aussie accent. Is it either lands in British

681
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: like it lands in that kind of like that.

682
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: We like get a mate and I'm like, well.

683
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: That's that's British.

684
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or sometimes you'll get as strange kind of like

685
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: South African kind of twang.

686
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: I feel so hard to do South African. It's so

687
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: specific in its yeah, because it's a mix of both

688
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: Australian and British, but it has its own little twain.

689
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: Did you ever do Southern? I love a Southern like.

690
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: And there's different southernthing, so I remember how to do

691
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: it like a textan actor trying to do around He's like,

692
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: it's very I can't.

693
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: Even do it right now do what I used to

694
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: do when I do it because I did cat on

695
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: a hot tin roof for scene study, so Tennessee Williams

696
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: like Southern bell and before we'd go into scene, I'd

697
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: be like literally standing up like apple apple par like

698
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: try and get into like and I was like, because

699
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: I had big monologues, and I was like, if I

700
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: need my trigger face, but now do you're not? My

701
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: American trigger phrase is immediately no, immediately no, literally, immediately no.

702
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: It's hilarious when I'm at work because I work at

703
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: a yogat sho here that I just pick up things

704
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: I say and they're like immediately no, and I'm like, oh.

705
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: My god, hilarious. And that's like your entry, like because we.

706
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: Say it is an Australian we'd say.

707
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: Literally, oh yeah, we say literally.

708
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: But Americans go literally, oh, you're right right that they

709
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: hit there, yeah, because the British literally yeah literally, and

710
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: we say literally, but you got literally yeah.

711
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: And it's also very very California accent. You do yeah,

712
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: show in the back of I like mumble, I speak

713
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: in the back of my throat.

714
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: And how would you order a matcher? That's the funniest thing.

715
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: When I hear California's like a green match a tea,

716
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: Oh match.

717
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: March, I go, can I get like an ice marcher

718
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: with oat milk and vanilla bean extra?

719
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, like can I have?

720
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: But see how we would say matcha? And you know,

721
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: when I first got off the plane and I've been

722
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: in Australia for a few months because I love black coffee,

723
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: and I've gone like, I'm like, surely they know all

724
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: the Australian coffee because we get like flat whites and stuff.

725
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: Anyway, and I remember I went.

726
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: This beautiful coffee like specialty coffee shop in satur morny C.

727
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: I was like, these guys are gonna know what I'm

728
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: talking about. And I was like, hey, can I get

729
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: a long black?

730
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: And they were like what? And I was like, that's

731
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: our coffee in Australia. That's what you order, a long black.

732
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: They made me an Americano, it's not the same coffee.

733
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: It's not the same. When you go to Australia you

734
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: get along black. It was like the most delicious black

735
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: coffee ever.

736
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: You know, have you trayed blue bottle obsessed? And that

737
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: New Orleans. The Oh my god, it's it's like crack.

738
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: It's like I had a stop the New Orleans one.

739
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: It's so it's their pre made don't like it's sweet.

740
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: It's like they're sweet ice coffee but it's not overly sweet.

741
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: And you get it at a neighbor and he was like, hey,

742
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: you you like ice ice coffee And I was like, yeah,

743
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: like ice coffee. He's like, oh, go to bla bottle

744
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: and you know, like order yourself for like a New

745
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: Orleans with oat milk. So I ordered and I was like,

746
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: oh my god. It's like creamy, but it's not overly sweet.

747
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: It's like just sweet enough, but it's so strong. And

748
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: it got to the point I was drinking two a day.

749
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: I was like, and I was walking around, I'm trying

750
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 3: to take my bodies are tired, but I'm so alert.

751
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, no, no, no, no, no, I can't do that.

752
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: I have a hard like one o'clock is I can't

753
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: go coffee after one.

754
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: That's why I'm drinking this like adapted gen Oh yeah,

755
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 3: right now, this is very low. This is very lola ishue,

756
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 3: Lola approved, Lola proof.

757
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've done your soul cycle.

758
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so now I want to ask you, like, for

759
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: people listening to this, I know that like a lot

760
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 2: of actors and aspiring actors listen to this, what advice

761
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: would you have for somebody that's like wanting to kind

762
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: of like make a bit of a break in their

763
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: arts industry.

764
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: I feel, wherever you like, if you want to act,

765
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 3: like nothing's stopping you. You know, whatever resources you have

766
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: in wherever place you live, do that, like completely do that.

767
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: And once you get and if you you truly have

768
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: a love for it, because you have to have a

769
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: love for it, because if not, it's not it's not

770
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: worth it, Like don't do it, You're gonna be struggling.

771
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: And it's something that you don't have a passion for

772
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: or not a true love for it. Because the thing

773
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: is a lot of people move to LA because they

774
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: want to be famous, and that's different. You know. They're

775
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: the ones that, yeah, and everyone's trying to be Kardashians.

776
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: They come out here and they're like, oh, I don't

777
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: even have to like have a talent. I could just

778
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: be famous just for like you know, and so but

779
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 3: if you truly love the art of acting or anything

780
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: in the artistic field, like do it. Just practice it

781
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: as much as you can, and then finally when you

782
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: feel you're ready, if it's TV and film you're trying

783
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 3: to do, then LA is like obviously like a great, Yeah,

784
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: the home for that, or New York if you want

785
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: to do theater even TV. And I have so many

786
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: friends that audition from New York and there's a lot

787
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: of things that film in New York. And finally make

788
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: the move there and find amazing like classes to take

789
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 3: always be training because I feel like we never stopped

790
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 3: growing as a person, you know. But also like me

791
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: and Lola were talking about this earlier because she's recommending

792
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: classes and I was like, oh, like you trade this class.

793
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, And I'm always kind of looking

794
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: for something because because you're always growing.

795
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: And you want to keep that muscle flexed as well.

796
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: I did it speaking class. I did a class last

797
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: week with a director and writer called John Patrick Shanley.

798
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: He's New York face.

799
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: Yes, he wrote Doubt and Instructor, and he was pretty

800
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: like his seventy two he was pretty cut not cut throat,

801
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: but just like he says what he believes and he's

802
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: like he goes first of all, you're either writing or

803
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: you're not. Like you're either acting or you're not, whether

804
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: it be like in class or whatever. And then he

805
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: said actors go through so much rejection and he said

806
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: four years before they make it. And he said, but

807
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: it keeps them in shape. Oh, and I was like, fuck,

808
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: I'm never looked at it like a positive. Yeah, it's

809
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: like all those self tapes, it's like, that's your opportunity, Yes,

810
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: all opportunities to skape back there.

811
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, opportunities to storytell. That's what my acting co Dana Cals,

812
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: She's always like, she's like, they're not auditions, they're just

813
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: an opportunity to storytell. So focus on the story tell us.

814
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: Like fuck your actor mind, that's always like, oh, I

815
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: need a book this. And then it's like we could

816
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: feel that energy and people feel that like walking into

817
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: a room, you're like, I need to book this job.

818
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: Like no, just your storyteller, and storytellers existed way before

819
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: these things got producers and directors and casting directors. They're like,

820
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: they're just humans. Yeah, just humans, And you know, like

821
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: we're all storytellers. Storytellers of exists since the beginning of time.

822
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: So focus on that, but also like make sure like

823
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: you're just well rounded in life. I feel like experienced lives.

824
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: The world's so much bigger than this industry, you know,

825
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: and I feel I maybe my relationship with the industry

826
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: is also different because I grew up in La so

827
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: this is my backyard, you know. I didn't move somewhere

828
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: to kind of be like, oh, I have this goal.

829
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: So I have a lot of respect for people that

830
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: move and go like, oh my god, I'm giving myself

831
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: five years for this, and if it.

832
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: Doesn't happen hard, it is hard.

833
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: Like I had an an American accountant that I'm no

834
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: longer with and he was like, if you don't make

835
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 2: it in three years, you should give up your green card.

836
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my.

837
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: God, that's not long enough, mate. I've had my green

838
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: card nearly three years. I'm like, oh my goodness. No,

839
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: I'm just starting to feel a bit of a groove.

840
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: Now I'm going to rid another couple of hard years

841
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: ago ahead of me.

842
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: It's going to take it takes years, and also to

843
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: learn the business aspect of it, because that's one thing,

844
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: Like you have this passion for acting and learning what

845
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: it's like to be even on set and also learning

846
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 3: like all like.

847
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: You like yourself in a way to you're opening up

848
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: a business, right.

849
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

850
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: Anthony Lapali, who I've interviewed on this part as well,

851
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: I've told you heaps about he said it takes about

852
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: seven years. He's like, it's about a seven He's like,

853
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: it's about a seven year windows. So they keep reminding me.

854
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: They're like, Lola, you're at three, Like chill out, chill out.

855
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: And he actually, it's really interesting to hear this as

856
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,479
Speaker 2: an Australian that lives out here. He said, never feel

857
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: guilty about going home to make money. And I was like,

858
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: I had to hear that because I'm someone that sometimes goes,

859
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: oh fuck, I've got to go home to get like

860
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: a really well paying gig, which is what I'm about

861
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: to do. But then I have to remind myself that

862
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: that gives me the freedom to come back here and

863
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: say and keep going and keep working on the dream.

864
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 3: Yes, you know.

865
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: And so I think knowing that not everyone's journey to

866
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: get there is the same one.

867
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 3: Everyone has a different path, right.

868
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: And I think it does take a bit longer than

869
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: we think. When we're in that first day of acting class,

870
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: going oh yeah, well I'll be like Margot Robbie in

871
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: a year's time.

872
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, and I and there's and we have to

873
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: remember too, there's like thousands, thousands of like working actors

874
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: that you probably don't even know their names, but they're

875
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: constantly working and they're like, successful actor.

876
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: Is my goal.

877
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's and there's there's a working actor that looks

878
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: like everybody in your life, like like you're your funny

879
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: looking neighbor. That's it right next up. But he's like

880
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, they look so people are like, oh,

881
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 3: I gotta look like Brad back, gotta look like Kim

882
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: kardash you know, Brad. But you know, like, no, you

883
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: have you.

884
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: Sat in callbacks and sat in the room and being like,

885
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: oh my god, all these people look like me.

886
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I've also sat in places where like I

887
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: look like none of these people too, And I'm like, now,

888
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 3: I'm thinking that's who they kind of wanted cast. But

889
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: I kind of did a decent job and they brought

890
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: me back. Oh wow, And I was up for it

891
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: was an Apple series for for Joseph Gordon Levitt did

892
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: it at A twenty four.

893
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: It would have been amazing and I remember hate be

894
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: phenomenal to work with that.

895
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: Yes, and he was so lovely in the re rotation

896
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 3: in the call back, like he was just I felt

897
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: like I was friends with them. The producer, he was

898
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 3: a producer on it. It was called mister I mean,

899
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if they changed mister Corman. We lasted

900
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 3: one season, but I was up for it. And I

901
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: went in to the first call, the second call, and

902
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 3: the third callback was this would have been for drama,

903
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 3: Like no, it would have been it's a drama y

904
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: and my role would have been like, yeah, it's a

905
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: good it's drama and comedy, which is like my favorite.

906
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

907
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: But it went to the third call back and it

908
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: was on you guys, and they were really heavy set guys,

909
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: like like you know, like three pounds, like really big guys.

910
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: And I go, oh, they're probably wanting to cast something.

911
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: And I get it, right, I'm like, because me and

912
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: him have we have a similar energy, you know. So

913
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: I was like, and I kind of change my energy

914
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: for the character, but naturally me and him would be

915
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: kind of, yeah, we're a little too similar.

916
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: And that's You've brought up a really great point, and

917
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: that is casting and that's something.

918
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: That is out of your hands.

919
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 2: Out of your hands, like you might read for something

920
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: and or I might read for something and they're like,

921
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: well she's brunette. Now, we don't want to brunette. We

922
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: actually need a blonde. Or you might remind the casting

923
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: director of their ex and they're like, no, there's something

924
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: reminds me of my exit here out. Yeah, And it's

925
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: so fascinating that that part of that part of the

926
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: picture is just like out of your control. Which brings

927
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: me back to you, is they to tell a good

928
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: story and enjoy that prices.

929
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: And we have to enjoy our lives, you know, Like

930
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 3: I have friends that like awesome humans, super talented, but

931
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: sometimes like they're emotionally they're highs and low lows like

932
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: all the time, and.

933
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: That can come with the actory hottest stuff.

934
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: And I was like, dude, like enjoy your days.

935
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: This is your life.

936
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: And this has been years of this. I'm like, no

937
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: one project's going to change. I mean it could change

938
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 3: your life, really, but that one thing, you ride that

939
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: wave and then people are onto the next thing. No

940
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: one cares after a year or two, like like what

941
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: like I can't even tell you who got like one day,

942
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: Oscar two years, Ag're like, no, you know what I'm saying.

943
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 3: And we're constantly fed so much information, so much content,

944
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 3: Like just enjoy your days, enjoy your life, like look too,

945
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 3: I mean whatever, you're passionate about things that bring you joy.

946
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to do, Like the last couple

947
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 3: of years, I just want like joy to be the

948
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: marker of my success, you know, truly, Like I'm like,

949
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: am I enjoying my days? Like what things bring me joy?

950
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: Like doing that, nurturing myself on a daily basis, that's

951
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: like more so than anything else, I'm like, that's all

952
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: I care about, Like, am I enjoying my life?

953
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

954
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to look back. And also

955
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: like I'm always I'm so hard on myself and I'm

956
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 3: always costantly going like, ah, is this like really me

957
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: not wanting to fully put myself. Is that my fear

958
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: talking or is it me kind of going like oh,

959
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 3: I'm happy doing this, but part of me is going like, no,

960
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: I haven't fully expressed all my talent, everything I'm here

961
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: to do in this life. And I don't want to

962
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: look back. And I always battle that, you know, I

963
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 3: have regrets and I always go on and.

964
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: I think it's for you.

965
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: Then it's the courage to live with freedom to do

966
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: whatever feels right and the joy, but also to have

967
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: the courage to do what feels true to you, you know,

968
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: like I think that's cool. Like right before we hit

969
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: record on this, I told you I got booked for

970
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: a TV gig and they really wanted me to talk

971
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: about something that makes no sense for me to talk about,

972
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: and I put the foot down. I was just like,

973
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: and it meant that I had to take the risk

974
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 2: of losing the gig, and I said, thank you so much.

975
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: I don't I don't approve talking about that topic. So

976
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: can we either talk here's five other topics we can

977
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: talk about, or you can let me go.

978
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: And I'm totally And it's having that.

979
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: Courage to go this is who I am, this is

980
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: my truth, and this is the freedom of like finding

981
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: that joy because I love doing TV segments.

982
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: There's so much You're so good at it. I've seen

983
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: these clips. I'm like, you're you're.

984
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: I love it time stuff.

985
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: I love it, and I just think for me, I

986
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: was just like, no, well, this is my truth. I'm

987
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 2: going to honor it, and I think it's the same

988
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: thing like feel.

989
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: Life will bring when you do that, life will bring

990
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: you an opportunity another one, like totally for sure. And

991
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: You're like, this feels aligned to my integrity, aligned to

992
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: what I really like. Yeah, it feels true and like

993
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 3: like I'm doing it out of love now yeah you know,

994
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: not because I'm doing it because I needed to. He's like, Okay,

995
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: this feels like good. I want to express myself in

996
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: this way.

997
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you're amazing. I have love having you on

998
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: this pod. I just want to end on because you

999
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: are so inspiring. Is there anything you live by like

1000
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: mantra or like is it the finding the joy?

1001
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: You know? I think I feel like the relationship we

1002
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: have with ourselves, like our life is a reflection of

1003
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: the relationship we have with ourselves, you know. And I

1004
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 3: feel like I'm constantly trying to work on myselves where

1005
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm just like aligned to who I am at my

1006
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: core and who I am at my core. I think

1007
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: it's like this little kids is just full of love,

1008
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: right and once express that and so you know always

1009
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: I heard back in the day like you like humans,

1010
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 3: could you make choices either out of fear out of

1011
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: love and like you could break it down to that,

1012
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 3: and I was like really, And when I heard that, initially,

1013
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: I was like, no, it can't be like that easy.

1014
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 3: But then you could break down certain decisions like holy shit.

1015
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: And I remember years ago when I started analyzing my life,

1016
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: I go, holy fuck, like I've made so many decisions

1017
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 3: out of fear, Like what like, okay, like what's life

1018
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: look like if I started making things out of there?

1019
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: Just be true to me? Being such a people pleaser

1020
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 3: my whole life too. I was like, always had trouble

1021
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 3: with sitting boundaries. So I'm like, okay, what's life look

1022
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: like when I'm like focusing on I'm filling my cup? Right?

1023
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: And I never did that. I was always trying to

1024
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: help everybody. And I'm like, and never and put myself last,

1025
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: and then I don't have resentment after it, and I'm like, oh,

1026
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I feel guilty now. I'm like, okay,

1027
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: I'm filling my cup. But naturally, when you fill our cup,

1028
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: there's the love to give there, you know what I'm saying.

1029
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: So things just flow easier, I feel, yes, So I'm

1030
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: always trying to be in flow with life, you know,

1031
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: I love that, right, because we never know what life

1032
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: is gonna bring us tomorrow. But if we're like at

1033
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: peace with like yeah, anything. I feel like if you

1034
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: find peace even in death and in transition, like if

1035
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: you can find peace with the worst case scenarios, like

1036
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: like you're gonna be fine.

1037
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I like that, like not my own choices

1038
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: out of theater.

1039
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 2: I think if you can catch yourself in those moments,

1040
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: you know, oh, actually hang on a sick you know,

1041
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: it's quite inspiring to live that way.

1042
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: I know. So I mind you. I say this now,

1043
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: but like and then tomorrow I'm like, oh fuck, what

1044
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: do I do?

1045
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: Hey?

1046
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: I have freaking loved chatting to you. Thank you, thank

1047
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: you so so much, and I feel very lucky to

1048
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: have a friend in you as well.

1049
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: So I thinks same year you got a friend in

1050
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: Elie all the time.

1051
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: Thank you for your friend. See yer.

1052
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

1053
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

1054
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: on Instagram.

1055
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm at Yamo Lollerberry.

1056
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: This potty my word for podcast is available on all

1057
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,080
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1058
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