1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Now a Charles Stowen University Arts program could soon give 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: corrections impacted students the opportunity to work towards a degree. 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Since twenty nineteen, doctor Adele Sefton Rausten has been teaching 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: women in the Darwin Correctional Center how to express themselves 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: through writing and the creative arts. And doctor Sefton joins 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: me on the line right now. Good morning to you, 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: doctor Sefton. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: Good oneing Katie. 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 3: How are you really good? Lovely to have you on 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: the show. 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Now, tell me what exactly is the program. 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: The program was developed in twenty nineteen to engage women 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: in Darin Correctional Precinct into creative writing, visual arts, mural painting. 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 4: And forms of expressing themselves. 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: While on the inside. 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: And how successful is it or you know, like how 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: many people are kind of keen to do it? 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: I suppose is one of the questions I've got. 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: It's been very popular. The women really look forward to 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: programs in the prison, and so we did have to 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: cap numbers due to COVID and things like that, but 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: we've been coming back every year and this year we're 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: able to run workshops and paint some beautiful murals. We've 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: painted three and I worked with street artists Hannah Illingworth 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 2: to create some murals. 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: There where the women could put on. 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: The wall their poetry, their writing. 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: And express themselves and. 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: Just engage with how they can be productive on the 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: inside and create that connection in a space of correction. 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: And Adele, tell me, you know, what is the what's 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: the feedback from those that are on the inside that 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: are taking part in this program in terms of, you know, 34 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: the way that it's helping. 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: For some of the women, it really is their first 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: exposure to a higher education program and a lecturer. So 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: for them, it's bridging a divide I suppose between those 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: people who have more access to higher education and those 39 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: that don't. It's a way that they can also build 40 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: their team bonding and communication skills with one another and 41 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: to see that they really do have human value and 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: contribute to the arts. 43 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: It's a piece of strained question, but you know, how 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: many students do you reckon it could benefit? 45 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 2: I think it's really up to the students, and we're 46 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: providing the opportunities and it is exciting. We've seen a 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: really positive response from people and a real hunger to 48 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: keep learning. 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 4: And express themselves. 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: In various ways through traditional languages, traditional storytelling, and so 51 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: for us it's really a learning experience as well about 52 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: how we can continue to refine and improve our curriculum 53 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: and our teaching styles to work together with people so 54 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: we can have more and more people coming through and graduating. 55 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: With you know, a. 56 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: Degree, a diploma, a certificate and be really proud of 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: their achievements because we know that the effects of education 58 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: has a ripple effect, and particularly if a mother is 59 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: educated and literate, her children will be as well. 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, you know, it's such an important thing 61 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: and having an education at whatever level it might be, 62 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: it does just create different opportunities for any individual. 63 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 4: Absolutely well. So to get to the question, you know 64 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: this could. 65 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: Be intergenerational change for families and communities. 66 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: Well, doctor Adell Sefton Roustan, I really appreciate your time 67 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: this morning. Been really interesting, I think to hear about 68 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: the program and the way in which that you know, 69 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: things might be able to change and provide further opportunities. 70 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Katie. Katie's been a a pleasure to 71 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: be on the show. 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: Lovely, thank you, thanks so much for your time this morning.