1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf on Mixed one oh four 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: point nine thanks to Joyce Main. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 2: Dar you are listening to Mix one O four point ninet. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: It is that time on a Tuesday morning, joining me 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: live in the studio for the big Issues. Well, I've 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: got Dave Tolna, Good. 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Morning, always a pleasure, never live dang it. 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: Hi, Good morning to you. Are you yeah, very well 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: and of course the Big Issues brought to you by 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Kolano Community Association and Aboriginal Looned operated and Community Lead 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: Organization from the top End to Tenant Creek. 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: Now, good to have you both. 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: In the studio this morning, because there's quite a bit 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: going on. 15 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: Isn't there? 16 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: Oh? 17 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: This what's going on this morning? 18 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: Now? 19 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to just start with Victoria because we know 20 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: that the Victorian health officials say that the state is 21 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: running neck and neck with this COVID nineteen crisis and 22 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: the next few days are going to be critical. With 23 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: eleven new locally acquired cases identified on Monday and the 24 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: worrying news that coronavirus has been found in aged care, 25 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: the situation is looking grim. Now I know that they've 26 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: also they're looking at implementing a policy the public sector. 27 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: Aged care workers in Victoria who have not been vaccinated 28 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: against COVID nineteen are apparently going to be stood down 29 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: from the front line duties to prevent the latest outbreak 30 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: from reaching the state's most vulnerable people. There's no doubt 31 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: that Victoria have had a bad run. 32 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: Well, isn't it amazing to you? 33 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: Like we've seen chairman Den now, well he's been spotted 34 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: in a cafe down there in Dennistean. 35 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 4: But he's terribly sick. 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: Mate, You've just got to look at the state of 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: Victoria to know that he's sick. 38 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: He's out of action. 39 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: So you've got to seriously ask the question, what is 40 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: to go with the Victorian health system? Well, you know, 41 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: I mean seriously, they've got five people that they've found 42 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, the whole state is in lockdown. 43 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: What they can't treat these people, they can't put them 44 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: in quarantine, they can't isolate them. 45 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: What do you have to do? 46 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: A whole the concern is is that there's these these 47 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: these cases popping up that are that are sort of 48 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: coming out of nowhere, you know, like people are there's 49 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: not you know, like they're not They can't them back 50 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: to hotel quarantine or. 51 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't know, you just put them in hospital 52 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: or in quarantine or something like that. 53 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: You know, and I mean eight hundred people. 54 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: Have died mainly in the age care sector. You know, 55 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: the most vulnerable that are in the age care sector. 56 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 3: And now finally the pennies dropped that. I hang on, 57 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: maybe we should be checking out the people who are 58 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: working they. 59 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: Well, I reckon, this is actually a good initiative. I 60 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: do agree with this. I do happen everywhere age care. 61 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: But realistically they should those age care workers in Victoria, 62 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: if they've not been vaccinated, will they do need to 63 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: maybe step away until they are vaccinated? Because you are 64 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: talking about the vulnerable within the community in. 65 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: Age we should be tested. 66 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: Why haven't they got vaccinated? 67 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 5: Like here stuff about politicians outgoing get tested, get vaccinated, 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 5: Like it's not rocket surgery or brain science, this stuff 69 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 5: like go and I get my second needle today and 70 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 5: I'll be vaccinated. 71 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: Are you taking him with you? 72 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with him. 73 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: He's a big he doesn't like vaccines, he don't like needles. 74 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: He's a bitine. 75 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 5: We can't see the pushing we shouldn't be pushing a 76 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 5: thing about getting a vaccine like you go, they go 77 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 5: Dr Smith, will Professor Smith. What do you think should 78 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 5: happen to go? We can't change until we all get 79 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 5: vaccine and then they get another specialist. 80 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: I agree a vaccine, Well, why don't we set them up? 81 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: Don't get it now? 82 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: I'd go and get one and I actually this isn't 83 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: the first time that we've heard this suggested. Actually today Hailey, 84 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: we had a message come through that said, why don't 85 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: we similar to the to the pop up testing facility 86 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: that we saw at Marara on the weekend, Well, why 87 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: don't we do the same for people going to get 88 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: their vaccine and open it up for everybody. 89 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: Ah, if you wanted to get vaccinated, to be a 90 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: hippocal to the chief chief necromans are here, I would not. 91 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: You can't get it taken, get your photo taken to 92 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: tell them that you're radio star. 93 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: Special service. You know, Katie Wolfgate, you know who I am. 94 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: I would never. 95 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: Bad. 96 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 5: It's the whole roll out being though, like you know, 97 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 5: it's like waiting for action on climate change with the 98 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 5: liberal government. It's just a slow and it's you get 99 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 5: scomo is even talking slower, and Greg Hunt's talking slow 100 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 5: like we're an embarrassment to the rest. 101 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: Of the world. 102 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 5: Lucky we're on an isolated island, don't we down the 103 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 5: bottom and. 104 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: There's no course. 105 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 3: You know, you're seeing these places like w A, what 106 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: there was two people over there that I found in 107 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: the community and just shut it down, you know. 108 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: Victoria five. 109 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 4: Those two are actually the opposition in. 110 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: The parliament, the couple down. 111 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: When you sit there, you go, what's wrong with the 112 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: health systems over there? 113 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: What they can't treat anyone? 114 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to shut down a whole state, 115 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: shut down all all those people, kick them out of work, 116 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: put them, send them back home, all this sort of 117 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: stuff because what they found five people in the hospital 118 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: can't cope with it. 119 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: I think that they actually did come into this instance, 120 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: and I'm not in the you know, like I'm not 121 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: in the business of defending governments. I think what they 122 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: did in the first instance was actually tried to do 123 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: this teared approach where they said if you'd been to 124 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: one of these areas of risk that then you had 125 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: to go into self quarantine. 126 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 5: All right, Simon Birmingham, even the Trade Minister, this morning, 127 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 5: still trying to defend the rollout. You can't defend the rollout, 128 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 5: all right, let's just open it up to everyone. I agree, 129 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 5: line up, go if you go on out. I'd love 130 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 5: it to be at monsoon so all the footballers could 131 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 5: get done. 132 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: On a Saturday night. There you're going, hey, there risk 133 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 4: are they? 134 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: Wee Footballwhere everybody go and get their vaccine? And do 135 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: you know what, luck Dave. If you're not going to 136 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: get yours, that's your prerogative. But for anybody else who 137 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: wants to get this, open it up. 138 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: I think anybody can go and get one fifty. 139 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 4: You can't three weeks fifty? 140 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: Really at risk? 141 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to go and get the I'd like 142 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: to have as many people in the community get their 143 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: vaccine as. 144 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: Those people who are ill. 145 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: Well, a lot of those people have already gone through the. 146 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: Process of another it, so the people who at risk 147 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: have gone through they should have gone and had their 148 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: That's right. That's the main thing, isn't so are not 149 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: at risk? You know people traveling. 150 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 4: From other states. 151 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: But if we've got people traveling from other states, I'll 152 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 2: do my bit for the community to make sure that 153 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: everybody's vaccinating get vaccinated. 154 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: Scene is one may be faccinated and. 155 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: From you as well. 156 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: So you're worried about young kids. 157 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: Know, I'm worried about the whole community, Dave on a 158 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: broader spectrum, because if we've got a government that likes 159 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: to shut things down fast, well, if the whole community 160 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: is vaccinated, it certainly makes that argument a little bit tougher. 161 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: Doesn't it about talking about our government trying to fix 162 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: up our health system so that we can actually start 163 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: treating people who might have COVID and stopped worrying about 164 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: shut and joint down every time someone gets a sniffle. 165 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: Problem is shut down? Where where the sources? And how 166 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: it's now? It's back in age. 167 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 5: When I got sent through today's topics, I thought it 168 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 5: was groundhole day. 169 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: I was just. 170 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: Talk about this. 171 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: Again, pandemic pawn. We can get our heads around it, 172 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: like we're just going to to keep this business. 173 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: Any of other things happening around the place. And one 174 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: of those things we did catch up with just enter 175 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: Price a little bit earlyer this morning. Now she's put 176 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: her hand up. She's going to run for the Senate 177 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: seat against the current sitting Senator sam Nick Mahton it 178 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: sounds like it's going to be an interesting race to 179 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: the Senate. I'm hearing that there's other names going forward 180 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: as well. Other people are keen to have a crack. 181 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: Also thoughts from. 182 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: What I can go that there's a whole lot of 183 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: names going forward. That's not why Well, I'm a former 184 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: chief of staff. Tim Dixon has put his hand up. 185 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 3: He's a very polished operator, Tim, and that's good or 186 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 3: for the Senate currently. I think he might have thrown 187 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,239 Speaker 3: the job in. He was Lea Fanocchi's chief of staff. 188 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: Up until a little while ago. 189 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: But you know, a lawyer, very very switched on, good guy, 190 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: nice fellow, just seemed a price. 191 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: Of course. 192 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: You know, I'd almost say she'd have to be the favorite, 193 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: or she should be the favorite. Anyhow, given the nature 194 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: of the Northern territory, I think we really do need 195 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: somebody down there who can argue the issues, and particularly 196 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: when you look at all this nonsense around the voice. 197 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: Ken Whittt seems to be captured by the left and 198 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: the and the Aboriginal industry. You know you've got Barb, 199 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: but keep calling the barb. MELANDERI down there they're talking 200 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: about replacing was a finally with with Mary and scrimge 201 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: or you know you got Pat Dodson and and all 202 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: these other. 203 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 4: On the way he critiques the labor we're just on 204 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 4: this bandwagon. 205 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: Question well introduced into our. 206 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: Going to well, who do you reckon's going to be. 207 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: Pre selection? It's not about the labor. 208 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: Partner, it's what's about what's best for the territory and 209 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 3: we desperately need some the. 210 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 4: Conry Senator, what you think of Margue for the issues? 211 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: What do you think of the well. 212 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: That she's performed particularly well? 213 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: I mean there's such a strong field of candidates lining up, 214 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: you'd have to wonder why that would be the case. 215 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: I mean, for twenty years Nigel was our senator and 216 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: I don't know that he was ever really challenged fundamentally 217 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: did a great job and you know people saw that 218 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: it was his seat. 219 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 2: But what do you reckon highly? 220 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 5: Oh look, I love it when the CELP are fighting 221 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 5: amongst themselves and it's just good. 222 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 3: Well. One of the beauties of politics is that it's 223 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: a fight all the way through. And Harley will tell 224 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: you want to be a Labor member of Parliament, it 225 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: starts the minute you join the Union and you're fighting 226 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: your way all. 227 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's a similar situation within the CELP. You 228 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: do have to. 229 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: Totally. 230 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: You can sit there and throw stones at that and 231 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 3: say they're all fighting, but the reality is that's what 232 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: delivers your best candidates. 233 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: Multi process is it just explain to our listeners as well, 234 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: everybody that puts their hand up, put everybody that puts 235 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: their hand up for pre selection, what is the process 236 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: then in terms of who they decide is going to 237 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: actually get that seat. From the COLP perspective, well, in. 238 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: Relation to a federal candidate, whether it's a Senate or 239 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 3: House or reps, it's a party decision. So it's a 240 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: Central Council, which is the governing body of the country 241 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: Liberal Party, and all of the delegates to Central Council 242 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: will turn up. There's sixty or seventy eight of them 243 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: from time to time, maybe less, maybe a bit more, 244 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: but there's a large group of people from all over 245 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: the territory and they'll sit there and they call them 246 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: in and they come in and they have to speak 247 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 3: for an hour or so and answer a range of 248 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: questions that sort of stuff, and they'll be lobbying those 249 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: Central Council delegates before that. I'd imagine that there's plenty 250 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: of lobbying going on now amongst the candidates, and I 251 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: don't even know that the field has been finalized yet 252 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: for the c ORP, but you know there's. 253 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the process ultimately, that's that's really in my 254 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 6: You know, people argue about people who are party affiliated 255 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 6: or independent, and the idea is, oh, well, you know, 256 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 6: someone who's independent's not. 257 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: Tied to the party. 258 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: But the other side of that coin, someone who's been 259 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: through the party system has already been through a level 260 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: of vetting and they've been veted by the party. So 261 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: you know, every man his dog can stick their hand 262 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: up for as an independent, you know, they're not vetted 263 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: by anyone. But you know, whether you're a Labor voter 264 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: or a country Liberal voter, you can sort of feel 265 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 3: some level of comfort that those candidates that those parties 266 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: put up have actually gone through. 267 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 4: Labour's just had the process we've had. 268 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 5: Warren Snowden was in Lingiari for thirty two years and 269 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 5: they called for nominations. Warren made it clear that he 270 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 5: wasn't running next year in the election, so they called 271 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 5: for nominations. There was four nominations and then those people 272 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 5: ring party members. I think there was around about one 273 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 5: hundred and thirty people had a vote something like that 274 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 5: that were actual. 275 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: Party members in living in Lingiari. 276 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 5: And any sort of pre selection you do for federal 277 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 5: seats got to be approved by our national executive. So 278 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 5: the candidates get on the phone and make the phone calls. 279 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: Obviously the personally ring everybody. 280 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 5: Well they try to. You've got to go and talk 281 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 5: to the people that have got to vote. Often people 282 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 5: get caught up in wasting their time with people that 283 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 5: don't actually have a vote or influence. So you're better 284 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 5: off ringing, getting on the phones and ringing the people 285 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: that actually have a vote. And that process occurred for 286 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 5: Labor earlier this year and Marian Scrimjaw was elected as 287 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 5: the candidate for Ningyari. 288 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: Well, I got to say, yeah, when it comes to 289 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 3: new candidates, you know there's always this view, do you 290 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: run around like a headless chook chasing up votes within 291 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: the party? 292 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 293 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: Right, is that the best way to attack things? 294 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: And my view has always been become a community champion first. 295 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: You know, anyone can go to branch meetings and lobby 296 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 3: their members and all of that sort of stuff. But ultimately, 297 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: if you really want to succeed as a politician, it's 298 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: far better you've got the backing of your local community 299 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: before you go to your political party asking them for 300 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: pre selections. And it's a very good understanding who they are. 301 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: I think it's very boy And I will say that 302 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: you know, with both of you, gentlemen who have held 303 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: those federal seats as well, you know a lot of people. 304 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: There will be a lot of people who do know 305 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: this about you both, but there will be some who 306 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: listen to the show and don't know this. You're both 307 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: actually very heavily involved in the community, even since leaving politics, 308 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: and I think that that's quite an admirable thing from 309 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: both of you, that that's been a huge part of 310 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: your lives when you were in politics and pre politics, 311 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: but also afterwards as well. And I think that it 312 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: goes to show you know your long term territory, you're 313 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: part of the community, and that's actually what you want 314 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: to see as well from anybody who is entering that 315 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: field of politics. You want them to go in there. 316 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: You know they may not have the same beliefs as me, 317 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: They may not have the same beliefs as Dave, or 318 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: the same ones as you, Damien, you know, but at 319 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: the end of the day, But at the end of 320 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: the day, you do want people in there who are 321 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: part of the community and genuinely part of the community 322 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: and is still part of that community even after they've 323 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: left politics. 324 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: In min I totally agree. 325 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: And the other thing point you made there is your beliefs. 326 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: And to me, this is the single most important thing 327 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: in politics, is that you actually have some beliefs, you 328 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: have some convictions. Too often, I think these days politicians 329 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: are just going with the breeze, you know, wherever the 330 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: polls are. 331 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: They can't make. 332 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: A decision unless they've done a poll. And you sit 333 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: there and you think, well, what are you believing? What 334 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: are you actually standing for? And what are people voting for? 335 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: The voting for someone who's just going to read the 336 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: polls every day, or someone who actually believes in something, 337 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: wants to fight for something, wants to achieve something. 338 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: Well, we're here, yeah, to take a very shop. 339 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: Dave Thomas just put up for the Senate. 340 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: You've been the Kingdom making you understand, you understand the 341 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: stigma being a senator in candles and I mean it's 342 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: only when you're outside of Canda. The people even give 343 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: senators the time of day. But when you're in the 344 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: in the Federal Parlament, a friend of mine, no one, 345 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: no one likes to senator. 346 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 5: A friend of mine once said to me in the 347 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 5: Parliament that she'd been laying around doing nothing for two weeks. 348 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: And I said, what have you been over in the 349 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: Senate and she goes, no, I've been in three sixty 350 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: with Katie Wolf thanks to Joyce Main, Dowen Homes and 351 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: Stuart Highway. 352 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: Bear you are listening to three sixty and it is 353 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: Tuesday morning. It is the Big Issues, and Dave Toller 354 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: and Damian Hale are in the studio with me this morning. 355 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: Surprises Katie, what's mixed? 356 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: Well, actually, I. 357 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: Do just need to I do just to actually mention 358 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: that there was apparently an accident on the corner of 359 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: Tiverndale Road and Stuart Highway just near Stratco a little 360 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 2: bit earlier this hour. It's affecting traffic heading into the city. 361 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 2: So if you are out and about and you're able 362 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: to give us a bit of an update on how 363 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: things are looking with that traffic, please get in contact. 364 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: You can send us a text or give us a 365 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: call and let us know how it's going. 366 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: Now. 367 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: We also actually we've received quite a few messages, but 368 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: I do just need to read on out from the 369 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: Chief Minister's office. This is in relation to the situation 370 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: that's being spoken about. Yesterday we talked about this. The 371 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: Health Minister did reveal that we are looking at no 372 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: longer having those repatriation flights landing at the Raft base 373 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: and going through the Darwen International Airport. That is what's 374 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: on the cards in the coming months. But the Chief 375 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: Minister's Office have been in contact and said that the 376 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: Federal government, through the Chief Health Nurse, have recommended landing 377 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: repatriation flights at the Darwin Airport over the Raft. It's 378 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: not a Northern Territory government push, but they're with it 379 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: as long as all safety boxes atticked. There is still 380 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: work to be done and it's early in the process 381 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: with the Federal government and they would pay for those 382 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: upgrade works to the Darwin Airport. So that does follow 383 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: on as well from a discussion that we'd had with 384 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: the opposition. 385 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: Brother Looking out front, there's a lot of activity at 386 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: the moment. 387 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: I wonder whether that is. 388 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: The training period. It's the best place in the world 389 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 4: to fly up here at the moment you. 390 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: Can hear them all in me. Now look, I am 391 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: keen to talk to you both about the fact that 392 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: we're going to see a state of Origin game. I 393 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: tell you what, Ronnie was unhappy when I told her this. 394 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: She wanted it to be in Darwin. 395 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 5: One of the great things about cod is that. 396 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: Capacity. 397 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 5: They've done state of origins before on Nassie Rules over 398 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 5: so I think it's a good thing. 399 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: And I think that when did they do a state 400 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: of origin on Narsie Wills. I don't know all about 401 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: Sydney cricket. 402 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: The Sydney Cricket ground they used to do what they 403 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: had a rectangle. 404 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I reckon it will be a time. There 405 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 5: will be one day they might have an origin in Darwin. 406 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: We can only hope. But I tell you what, this 407 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: is fantastic for towns Well. I lived in Townsville for 408 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: a number of years and they go absolutely berserk. The 409 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: Cowboys make the Grand Final, people paint their houses in 410 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: the Cowboys colors. 411 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 3: They go crazy, absolutely thrilled that we've got something happening 412 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: in North Australia. You know it is we miss out 413 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: on so much. Up are you talking about politics? One 414 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty federal seats in the House of Reps, 415 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: eight of them north of the Tropic of Capricorn. 416 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: Eight you know, let's sit there. You go, well, we 417 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: are a bit underrepresented. We are. 418 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 5: We've got to have the origin in towns for Cairns 419 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 5: and Rockampton this year the three games. So why just 420 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: so Queensland wins all three of them without saying. 421 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: It, I don't know if there's well, none of us 422 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 2: in this room go for New South Wales, that's for sure, 423 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: will be one agreed that. I actually think this push 424 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 2: to do more in regional parts of Australia as a 425 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: result of what's going on with COVID is a really 426 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: good thing. It does sort of give regional Australia the 427 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: opportunity to showcase there is whether you're talking about the 428 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: AFL you know and having games here, or whether you're 429 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 2: talking about the NRL and the likes of state of origin. 430 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: It's a good thing. 431 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: One of the most urbanized countries in the world, you know, 432 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: I think eighty percent of the population lives in four 433 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: or five capitals. Outside of that, there's not a whole lot, 434 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: and that's where all all of our wealth comes from, 435 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: outside of those major capitals. 436 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: You know what do you reckon? Highly? 437 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 4: I just love listening today, just sitting. 438 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 2: Back, You're just really sitting back and listening. 439 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: Just he's he's just rolling them. 440 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 5: It's like the biggest campaign pitch I've ever heard from 441 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 5: Dave Tolner. What do you think it's a bit of 442 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 5: financial backing, backing. 443 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 4: He's ready for retirement the Senate eating. 444 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: Got it right, will are here first on all the 445 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: big issues. 446 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: First in all of him. 447 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 5: If there's any young aspiring politicians out there, just listen 448 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 5: to this, get on radio and listen to this tonight 449 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 5: and listen to Dave. 450 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 4: This is how you pitch yourself to a crowd. Absolutely excellent. 451 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: I don't think anyway. 452 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 5: That's it for They wouldn't find a more passionate person 453 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 5: in the c LP. 454 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: It's definitely the A. B. C. And Christian Porter. 455 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: No, we don't now you haven't actually read up on it. 456 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: This episode, Yeah, we're going to talk about about the 457 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: situation with the. 458 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 5: Well. 459 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: She has actually said that she suffers from depressions. 460 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: It's a very different situation. 461 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: Five minute interview too well, there will be people who 462 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: about it. 463 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 3: She's only the richest, the highest paid athlete, female athlete 464 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 3: in the world, mean that. 465 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: People don't have it doesn't matter where you come from. 466 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: Situation you've got. Now we are going to have to 467 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: wrap up. 468 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: That's wrapp'd. 469 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: Not always good to catch up with you. Thank you 470 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: with you and not running for the Senate. 471 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: We can confer. 472 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: And Damien, Hi, always good. 473 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: To catch up with you. Thanks so much for your 474 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: time this morning, and. 475 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 4: Say it always a pleasure. 476 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: In the victual you're listening to Mix one O four 477 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: point nine. That was the Big Issues Bradley, Brought to 478 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: you by Kolano Community Association,