1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Here at two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land on which we record 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: this podcast. 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: The were injerie people. This land was never seated, always was, 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: always will be. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Dear listeners, you know that on our podcast two Good Sports, 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: we always like to bring you our favorite people, a 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: chat with humans that we like to describe as one 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: of us, someone who meets us on a spiritual level 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: and just sings and takes off and we go, oh. 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: There you are, We've missed you. Well. 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: That is our guest today to a tea. I'm talking 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: about a young man who pulled us sickie when he 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: was in primary school so that he could stay home 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: and watch Tourah Bright Wind gold at the Winter Olympics 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: in Vancouver twenty ten. 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: I'm talking about a young man who made. 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: His Winter Paralympics debut at fourteen years of age. 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: Fourteen. 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: Let's just sit with that and only a couple of days. 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, what were you doing, listeners? 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: What were you doing? 23 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: Probably not that we're talking about a man who most 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: recently won two Paralympic medals in Milano Cortina. We're talking 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: about a man who has one Australia's last three Paralympic medals. 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: We are talking about a man who, after winning his 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: second medal in Milan, said about how he would celebrate beers, beers, beers, beers, beers. 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: That's five beers, guys, one of us, one of us. 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: We are also talking about a man who likes to 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: wear Star Wars socks when he snowboards, especially when it 31 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: is a race day. 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: Then it's Yoda. 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: And just before you think that, wait, hang on a second, 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: has been tud Hope actually been created in a lab 35 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: for abs and gelm me on two good sports. I'll 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: tell you he's born on our Lord and Savior, Taylor 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: Swift's birthday. So please may we all be upstanding and 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: A team. 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: Firstly, we just love you, and I'm sure that you're 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: aware from that in the intro. How are you? Because 42 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: it has been a whirlwind? 43 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 4: Can we just stop the podcast now? 44 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 5: I feel like that inter is good enough. You don't 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 5: need to know anymore about me. 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: A nah, No, I'm doing good. 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 5: It's good to be home, had a big season, have 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 5: the games, but to be back on home soil is amazing. 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: I want to get the reaction about everything that's happening 50 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: in Milan. But what was the reaction like when you 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: did actually step foot back on home soil. Because I've 52 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: seen the vision, I've seen people there waiting for the 53 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: team to arrive. 54 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 3: How did that feel? 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, that was crazy. 56 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 5: Like we've had home receptions before in like past Games 57 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 5: and sulf but coming home from Milanon Krtina with something 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 5: else like quantist put on this shows. I flew us 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 5: as way home from Cortina from Venice to Australia, which 60 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 5: was awesome. And then yeah, to get that reception at home, 61 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 5: A couple of my friends with there, the governor generally 62 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: with my. 63 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: Old babysitter was there. 64 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 5: And did it introduce her, which was yeah, incredible. But yeah, 65 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 5: just as see the support from home, not just there, 66 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 5: but from the whole games as well is sensational. 67 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: Now we're going to go through your medals plural, but 68 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: we'll start off. We'll start off with the snowball cross 69 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: because usually when you're looking into form lines for a 70 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: Winter Olympics, you use recent World Cup performances and buy 71 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 2: your own admission. Yours had been modest for your own 72 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: lofty standards, So you're coming into the Games going I 73 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: wonder what I can pull out here, And already there's 74 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: a bit of a difference right in the fact that 75 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: you're qualifying is so close to the final, and that's 76 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: not usually how it is. 77 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 4: Now, not at all. 78 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 5: We normally do qualifying and finance on the same day, 79 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 5: so qualifying means like a lot less in normal kind 80 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 5: of World Cups that we do. But at the Games 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 5: it spread over two days and so like it felt 82 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 5: like qualifying was another race day really and like you 83 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 5: kind of have to be on point. 84 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: But I'll take you back to like. 85 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 5: The training days and the days before leading up to 86 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 5: the event. So the Border Coast course was a lot 87 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 5: bigger than our normal courses, which I thought was very cool. 88 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 5: Courtina has had an able Body World Cup years previous 89 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 5: and it was pretty much the same course, same course 90 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 5: layout as the able Body World Cup, so I was 91 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 5: really excited. I'm a big fan of Border Coross, so 92 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 5: I've watched this race for years and using years, and 93 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 5: I was hoping it would be something like that and 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 5: it and so I was super excited. Went out on 95 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 5: the first training day and there was a lot of air, 96 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 5: big jumps, like high speeds and stuff too, and so 97 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 5: I went out there and I would just like a 98 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 5: kid in a candy stare, like that love of snowboarding 99 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 5: really just hit me and I was firing like there 100 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 5: was a massive smile on my face every single one 101 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 5: I did. But unfortunately for the sport, it was a 102 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 5: bit too big for probably ninety percent of the field. 103 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 5: One of the UK coaches came up to me that 104 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 5: next day and would like, you know, like you were 105 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 5: probably one of four people having fun on that course. 106 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: And. 107 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: Main the main thing about like the sport is safety, 108 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 5: and so it wasn't safe for anyone. On that first 109 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 5: day there were five injuries and so they happened to 110 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 5: made some changes. They did make some changes, and for 111 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 5: our second day of training they kind of butchered o 112 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 5: rebuild and they made it too slow for the fast guy, 113 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 5: and so two of the fast faster guys then injured 114 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 5: themselves on the second day of training and they had 115 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 5: to make another rebuild before the qualifying day, and so 116 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 5: they lessen the course even more to make it safe 117 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 5: for everyone. Which look, it was still great, it was 118 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 5: still fun, it was still fast. It's still made for 119 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 5: really good racing, probably better racing for everyone. 120 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: But there was a lot of variables. 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 5: Going into qualification because the course changed every single day 122 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 5: and I didn't write the actual race course until qualifying day. 123 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 124 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: And we're on record of going especially bord across, like 125 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: you have to be a certain level of unhinged to 126 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: take part in that hut because it is dangerous as 127 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: it is, let alone going wait what's this course? 128 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 129 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: And I'm going to race at the Paralympic level the 130 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: first time. 131 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 132 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's absolutely chaotic, you know, like every way it's 133 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 5: so different. There's different variables that happened, and I think 134 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 5: that's such a good spectator of sports world. Yeah, because 135 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 5: it's so exciting. 136 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: I want to talk. 137 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: About one of those variables, Ben because correct me if 138 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Did you dislocate your shoulder at the Paralympics. Yes, 139 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: and you dislocate your shoulder before you won your medals? 140 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, taught me. Yeah. Yeah. 141 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 5: So going from qualifying to the race I qualified second, 142 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 5: everyone was so excited and then I would like I 143 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 5: had a big group of family friends there and they 144 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 5: were so excited on the qualifying day and then it 145 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 5: went straight the race down like. 146 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: This is where the party is? 147 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: That? 148 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 4: Like race like something else. 149 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 5: But going into that quarterfinal, like the first race of 150 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 5: the day, I pulled out of the startgate and I 151 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 5: felt my shoulder pop out. Look, it wasn't that bad, 152 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 5: it wasn't crazy bad, but I felt a pop sentation 153 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 5: in my shoulder and then it popped back in probably 154 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 5: about five seconds later while I was competing against three 155 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 5: other people on course and we were going three wide 156 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 5: into the first turn and pretty much just to survive 157 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 5: that race with a popped up shoulder out of place, 158 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 5: I kind of don't know how I. 159 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 4: Made it through. 160 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 5: It was probably my most chaotic race of the whole day, 161 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 5: but got through. 162 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: Did this pretty good overtake halfway down. 163 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 5: The course, got first over the line, and then yeah, 164 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 5: was this skodo up and I rent into this like 165 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 5: full angry mode that never comes down on me, like much. 166 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 6: Better, say you're lying, yeah, yeah, but like I'm yelling 167 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 6: at my physio coming Nathan, come here, like strap up 168 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 6: my shoulder, and like I don't. 169 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 5: I don't want my competitants to know, like I'm injured. 170 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 5: I have the So I'm like behind a tree like 171 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 5: strapping my shoulder, getting tape and stuff, and I said 172 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 5: the medical team it was one physio and one like 173 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 5: admin staff member, like just cutting taping stuff and like 174 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 5: getting my shoulder secure. 175 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 4: But yeah, in the semi final, I'm. 176 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 5: Pretty scared to pull out and start because i know 177 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 5: if it would happen again. 178 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: Were you angry because you're like of all day like 179 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: that where the anger came from. You're like like a 180 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: metal day exactly. 181 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 5: You worked so hard for four years to be in 182 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 5: this moment, and today's the day. I wasn't angry at anyone. 183 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 5: I'm just angry at the situation going down. 184 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: One of us let out a bit of emotion the tree. 185 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to say, Ben, if it was me, 186 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: i'd be angry at everyone. 187 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: At the end of the day. And it was a 188 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 4: good one. 189 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 190 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: So we've got silver in the snowboard cross and then 191 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: we got bronze in the banks slalom Slalem. I never 192 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: I always panicked, Ben, I always panic because I'm. 193 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: Like, which one. 194 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: You said banked? 195 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 5: Okay, people call it bank kids, and it's not where 196 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 5: the bank is. 197 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: I don't know. 198 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: Well, thank you thank you for for acknowledging that. Yes, 199 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 1: I am smarter than Ben. Thank you, Ben, Thank you 200 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: so much. 201 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: I mean Look, I don't want you to compare the middles. 202 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: We would never do that, but I want you to 203 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: compare the feeling when you cross the line on both 204 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: of its. 205 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 5: The banks was a lot more trilet and a lot 206 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 5: more happy, and probably a bit more surprising to get 207 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 5: that medal. 208 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: I'll tell you the truth. I thought my competition. 209 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 5: Ones in the bank Salum weren't my best that I've done, 210 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 5: so I was pretty surprised to be ahead of a 211 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 5: lot of my good competitors who could have run. 212 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 4: On the day. The guy who got fourth was the 213 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: guy who. 214 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 5: Won in Beijing, Oh wow, And so I thought he 215 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 5: would have got me for sure. I thought the guy 216 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 5: who got fier six maybe even sevens would have got me. 217 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 5: But I'm just happy that a couple of ones that 218 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 5: I did with a few mistakes that probably a lot 219 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 5: of people can't see, but I can internally feel and 220 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 5: see when I watch that those ones were good enough 221 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 5: to put me on the podium. 222 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: That seems to be a common thing in snowboarding, because 223 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: we watch any snowboarding, we're like, that is the single 224 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: most impressive thing we've ever seen in our life, and 225 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: the commentator is like, they'll be very disappointed. 226 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: Ye did you? 227 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: Did you see how terrible that backslides? 228 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: And we're like, I didn't say that? 229 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: Was this the most amazing thing ever? 230 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 5: What do it mean? 231 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: But was there a sense of and again a feeling 232 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: that we immortals will never know when you've already meddled? 233 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 2: Is there a feeling of like, well, let's just give 234 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: this one a crack, shall we? Yeah, I've got I've 235 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: got the silver to take back home. Let's let's just 236 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: see what happens. Is there a relief a little bit? 237 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: Or are you too? Are you so much of a 238 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: competitor that you don't let yourself feel that relief? 239 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 5: Look like going into it, I knew I was a 240 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 5: good chance in Boats, and I haven't performed in Bank 241 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 5: silent at a game before, so I did really want it, 242 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 5: Like I wanted the metal in Banked, but the relief 243 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 5: from border Cross and the silver medal and everything and 244 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 5: all the emotion or the support from home, it was 245 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 5: really hard to get back into, like that comption mo 246 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: that race, that focus, like the anger that I had, 247 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 5: but like being up on the bank course, like it 248 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 5: again was a really fun course at where I thought 249 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 5: they built it really well I had low expectation of what. 250 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: Caught In would build for the bank. 251 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 5: I knew the border costs would be good, but I 252 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 5: didn't know they were going to build such a good bank, 253 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 5: song Coles and so yeah, my expectations were lower, and 254 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 5: I was pretty surprised. 255 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 4: Like I said, to bring home that Bonds. 256 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: Who wasn't surprised was the Australian public because firstly, we 257 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: know you and we know what you're capable of. But 258 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 2: also you were my favorite part of the Winter Olympics 259 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: because there was this beautiful ad that kept playing where 260 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: you're inspiring the nation and I just thought, this, this 261 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: is more of what I want on my TV. So 262 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: just how does it feel now be part of those 263 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: sort of national campaigns and people recognizing that you're someone 264 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: that absolutely should be up in lights. 265 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 5: Oh it's incredible, you know, Like I'll give a shout 266 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 5: out to Booper. Yeah, they've done an incredible job highlighting 267 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 5: power athletes. 268 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: And the main thing for me is not that I'm 269 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: on TV, not that I'm in an ad. 270 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 5: It's highlighting power athletes in the media in general. I 271 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 5: don't care if it's still an old curt firmly like 272 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 5: any single power athlete in the media is a great 273 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 5: feeling and it's a great thing for Australia, you know, 274 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 5: and so like back in my like heyday when I 275 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 5: was a young kid, there were no power athletes on TV. 276 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: In the media. The only thing we saw. 277 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 5: Disability whether the sad solo story about a car accident 278 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 5: and a person ending up in in real and stuff 279 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 5: with all the negative side of things. And so if 280 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 5: that can happen later and people can start realizing what 281 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 5: the power Olympics are when their kids and stuff, it 282 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: would just open doors to so many different people and 283 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 5: it will allow the Australian public to know what power 284 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 5: support is. 285 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: And they definitely do because yes, they were able to 286 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: see your name up in lights, but someone who's already 287 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: known and has had your name in lights since literally 288 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: the day you first took your breath, was your mum. 289 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: I want to talk about you on the podium and 290 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: what happened when you spotted her and maybe a message 291 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: that you had for her. 292 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well the moment, I had no idea they 293 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 5: were go to be there on like when I got 294 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 5: the podium on that the other day. And also I 295 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: thought I wasn't going to cry. I thought I wasn't 296 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: going to get emotional, like that was Beijing from Beijing. 297 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 5: When I got that one, I was I wreck. I 298 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 5: was crying out. 299 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 4: My eyes like okay, so yeah, yeah for sure. 300 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: But this one, I'm like, I'm a man now, I 301 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 5: haven't met her before, Like, I'm not gonna cry. But 302 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 5: then I saw mom, dad, and my family, my two 303 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 5: sisters sitting in like the VIP area. 304 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: Firstly, I'm like, how the hell did they get there? 305 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 5: But then yeah, me and my mom have just this 306 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 5: little bit of eye contact, and yeah, I start crying. 307 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 4: I start weeping. 308 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 5: I feel it water in my eye, and I see 309 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 5: I see her just go to I'm like, oh no, 310 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 5: it's happening. And that's like a minute before we walk 311 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 5: out to the podiums. 312 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 4: I'm like, Mom, don't look at me, don't look at me. 313 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 5: I'm gonna, like, gotta be ready for this super medal. 314 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 5: But yeah, I'll start look like it a while. But 315 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 5: then I saw them, and yeah, it would just complete 316 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 5: I think, not relief, but just satisfaction of seeing it, 317 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 5: other of knowing how much they supported me and everyone 318 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 5: there too, and just a satisfaction of wow, we got 319 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 5: this done. 320 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about that support, because anyone 321 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: who gets to the top of their field, a lot 322 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: of the time it comes down to parents going, right, oh, 323 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: where are we. 324 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 3: Going to snow We're going to drop you off? 325 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: What the sacrifices they make to support you through competition. 326 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: Talk a little bit about why that moment was so emotional, 327 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: because I'm sure it made you think of all the 328 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: times when, again, in your heyday, your parents supported this 329 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 2: dream of yours. 330 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, totally luck I'll take you back to kind of 331 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 5: Brendan or Sally like. When I was born like and 332 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 5: being diagnosed with see, my mom and Dave were told 333 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 5: that I may never be able to walk and talk, 334 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 5: and so they kind of were the ones who let 335 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 5: me live a free life growing up. And I feel 336 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 5: like they just let me do whatever my sisters are doing, 337 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 5: whatever my friends are doing. They never treated me differently, 338 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 5: and so they let me start skiing when I was three, 339 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: they let me snowballed, and and I used to say 340 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 5: that they never wrapped me in coddon wool. 341 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 4: But I realized kind of recently that they were. 342 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 5: Just treating me equal. They were treading me equal to everyone. 343 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 5: And so look I love them like anyone loves the parents, 344 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 5: but I feel like they, yeah, that extra support, that 345 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 5: extra layer there. 346 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 4: So I thank them and I love them so much. 347 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 5: But saying that, like to become a Paralympian, to become 348 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 5: an Olympian, it takes a long time. 349 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 4: It takes a lot of sport. And so we're that 350 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 4: crazy family. 351 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 5: My two sistere into snow sports and roll and so 352 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 5: we would be the one to drive down on this 353 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 5: Friday night after school, drive train or snowball for two days, 354 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 5: come back on a Monday on a Sunday night to 355 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 5: be at school on Monday. And we did that year 356 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 5: after year after year after year on repeat, and then 357 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 5: traveling overseas, you know, like I'll spend so much time 358 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 5: away from them. 359 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 4: When I was thirteen, fourteen. 360 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: Thirteen and making the Paralympic, Yeah. 361 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know in school, sir. 362 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, they they just have supported me every 363 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 5: step of the way and they will never miss an 364 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 5: event like this. 365 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: Did you did you get the beers beers beers beers 366 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: beers five? 367 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 4: Five? Yeah, yeah, probably five. That's it. 368 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 3: You know, we're rounding down. 369 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's bound down, you know, but yeah, why did 370 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 5: you sing about the games, you know, but the Banks 371 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 5: Island got bored to day ahead and so instead. 372 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 4: Of two days of parleying, we got three. We did 373 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: hear that it was. 374 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I'm getting back in the chat. I'm 375 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: still a bit teary about the because I'm just imagine 376 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: you're handed this beautiful baby and you're told by doctors, 377 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: you know, they may never walk or talk, and your 378 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 2: immediate thought as a parent would be fear, fear for 379 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: like how am I going to give this kid a 380 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: great life? And how do we just love them? And 381 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: then they're on a podium. Here we go through that 382 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: moment of just going how they must be. There would 383 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: be no prouder parents on earth, Like I. 384 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: Just now you now have to add a your next podium. 385 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: You need to look at gelmy. 386 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 2: And because I just I just think you know and 387 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: more the point the person you are, they must just be. 388 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: You just radiate this joy. 389 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 390 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: That was even before the paralymic and I was like, 391 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: I don't care what we want him on. We got 392 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: to and then you got the medals and then we're 393 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: like we really got to get him that way. We 394 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: need no but can it be more aussy than beers, beers, 395 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: beers and what what is? Do you already start looking ahead? 396 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: Because I've got a bit. Every time they release where 397 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: the Winter Olympics is, I'm like, oh, the French Out. 398 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 2: How do we get on hold of that one? Do 399 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 2: you already start looking to the next one? Do you 400 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: have plans or do you give yourself a holiday? 401 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 5: Oh, you've got to give yourself a break, you know, 402 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 5: like our life does it, as any Olympic Paralympic athlete, 403 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 5: like our life is four year cycles. 404 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so we. 405 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 5: Ended the four years of Beijing to Milano, Cortina, and 406 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 5: we are at. 407 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: The very very very very very. 408 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 5: Start of this French Out kind of journey. And so yeah, 409 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 5: I'll definitely take some time off and we say, reflect, refocused, 410 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 5: probably have a beer or two. 411 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 7: The very very very very very start for the yeah, 412 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 7: five five, But look like if my body can handle it, 413 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 7: if I'm ready, if I'm there, I'll be thirty years old. 414 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 5: I always think I'll be like eighty four at the 415 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 5: next game, but whatever, But yeah, you'll be thirty. 416 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: You're fresh out of the room, thirty and forty with 417 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: sports times, Yeah. 418 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 5: You'll be right when you start at fourteen and you 419 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 5: start it very like in this well for so. 420 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 2: Your shoulders popping out. 421 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: But then what does what does time off look like 422 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: for you? 423 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: Though? 424 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: Like you said, what are you doing at a time 425 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: right now? Like what is that? 426 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 4: What's kind of funny? 427 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 5: I do work a full time job too, So I 428 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 5: work in marketing at Burton Snowboards. 429 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: Well amazing, yeah, yeah, it's the only snowboard brand I know, Yeah, 430 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: is working. 431 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 5: So yeah, I've been working there for two years, which 432 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 5: has been amazing, and it's funny, like it's snowboarding, So 433 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 5: it's cool that I get to work in the industry 434 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 5: that I love, but it's a different side of it too, 435 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 5: and so like it's kind of I feel like my 436 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 5: downtime for being an athlete to be able to sell snowboards. 437 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: Do you bring your medals to work? 438 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: Like if you're in a meeting, a marketing meeting, and 439 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: you're like, I've got this great idea and some goes 440 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, do you just drop the medals on the. 441 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 4: Table sometimes if I really have to. 442 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: Do it, Yeah, sorry, you're actually like a legit. 443 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 4: One of us. 444 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 5: Look like they were all so excited as a team there, 445 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 5: so they all want to see them. 446 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: Then I went back to work this week. 447 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Ben, you're just absolutely divine. We love 448 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: talking to you. Please come on the pod whenever you 449 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: want to. You just have a standing invitation. 450 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: You have a lunch that you quite enjoyed, just call us. 451 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: We'll have you on. 452 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, just have a little chat. 453 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: And can you confirm where you're wearing the Yoda socks 454 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: for both medals? 455 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I definitely was. 456 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: Now that's probably an inappropriate time say I've never watched 457 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: Star Wars on I don't know. 458 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: I just missed it. 459 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: Watching I was watching Cool Runnings. You should have a 460 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: lucky egg, you know your references? Come on, mean. 461 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: I missed it, miss Star Wars. Yeah, it's an entire galaxy. 462 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: I was in Western Australia. It's an entire galaxy far 463 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: far away. Ye were we really were speaking of stars? 464 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 2: You are an absolute champion. We so appreciate you giving 465 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: up your time, especially at the beginning of a campaign 466 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: where you can probably be sleeping and having beers instead 467 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: of doing these sort of chats. But we couldn't think 468 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: of a better ambassador for our country, and we are 469 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: excited to see what you can pull out in France 470 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: because we're not letting you retire before then. Thank you 471 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: something for your time. 472 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you so much. 473 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: Oh you're the best. 474 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 4: Thank you